The little chill episode has to be the biggest error of all time, but im sure there were other mistakes through out the years that involved character assasinations and firing of actors from the writers.

Was the mistake in 'Little Chill' when the girls from the 1st season were acting like they didn't know Jo when they had made appearances in some of the other Eastland years?

I was wondering how Jo could've given Cliff a ride to the airport on her bicycle in the Cupid episode this week when she sold it in an earlier episode to help pay her share for the extra room?

Hmmm, you know, I was wondering when Kevin (Ryan Cassidy) disappeared. He actually got to move into the house fer goodness sakes and then... *poof* gone!<grin> Conspiracy? Too many blondes in the cast? The producers met George Clooney? Hmmmm...

ok, in the episode where nat's grandma comes to visit, jo says that she doesnt have any living grandparents, yet in the episodes rights of passage 1&2, jo declines to give her college grad speech only to find that her grandfather is coming all the way from poland to see her give her speech!

i think that's a pretty stupid mistake but i guess i can see how they could have missed it!


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JO: Now, Natalie, when you hear these voices, are they friendly?

Even B4 I read any responses to the subject for inexcuseable episodes, I knew it would be about the Little Chill. I saw the ep in NBC first run in 1986. That was also the same time that "Facts" went into 5 day a week syndication. Then I realized who those girls were from the little chill show because I saw season 1 for the first time. I begane watching the show in 1984 on NBC Wed. nights. They know they screwed up with that "Chill" episode and its too bad that they cannot go back and correct that. That's like having a permanent blemish that will not go away.

Where in the Chill episode do they say they never met Jo? All I remember is I think it was Tootie saying "You remember Jo, right?" That implied that they had already met Jo, though they weren't close.

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"Well, Laverne is sort of childish" -Shirley

"Childish? Childish? Coming from a grown woman who throws tea parties for her stuffed cat!" -Laverne

"Well at least I don't sew L's on everything I wear!" -Shirley

"Well that would be pretty stupid considering your name's Shirley!" -Laverne

The one line that comes to my mind is that at one point somebody asked Jo something like "So Jo, where were you that first year when the rest of us were at Eastland?" At least for me, I would think that if they knew her they wouldn't have asked that. That is the one line that comes to my mind but there may be more.

Abbey

Yeah I think that one line was really stupid. If the point was to make jo feel like the odd one out what the writers could have done was have the girls talk about the first season. Then have Jo be like well remember (and something she did while they were there) and have the girls jump back to yeah that was ok but remember... until Jo gets fed up with trying to figure out their stories from the first year like she did. The rest of the story still works but it would have been better if they at least ignoliged the fact that Jo actually previously knew the girls.

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Tootie: Can we sing?
Jo: Sing?
Tootie: That's what I do when I'm scared what do you do?
Jo: Slap people


Blair: A Warner is like a delicate soufle
Jo: Yeah light and empty


Nat: I'd rather be a happy magic marker than a skinny pencil

I don't think the writters could have done any WORSE on the final episode! It sucked to the max!

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See ya~The T
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Jo: I don't think I can get this stuff down. I'll get some beer.

Natalie: How will you get beer?

Jo: I'll get some beer.
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Hey T, that's what i've been saying all the time. The last episode is THE worst episode of the whole series. It sucked! I cant say anything worse about it, except that it sucked. I mean, if they knew it was the last episode, why didnt they go off with a bang?
Anyway, in 'The little chill' episode, I was too wondering why they would make the girls not remember Jo. I was like, "They all licked envelopes together!" (for anybody who has no idea what im talking about,in the second season, watch the second season's 'Gossip' episode)
Anyway, there you go, that's my rant.

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

1.Getting rid of Edna's Edibles
2.Getting rid of Edna.
3.I like Chloris Leachman,but not on FOL
4.The chil episode where many of the girls didn't,but should have,recognized Jo.
5.Dragging the show on four years beyond it's life expectancy.

Those are my choices for the biggest errors made by TPTB on FOL

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Richard Ranke

well, on "Little Chill", I remember Tootie saying "you guys remember Jo, right?". They acknoledged her, just that they were never really close.

I am mixed. I think it was great the show stayed on for 9 years, but in another way, it dragged on a few seasons too long. Maybe it was Andy, Maybe it was Beverly, Maybe it was because Mrs. Garrett left. But the last few seasons (tho 8 was surprisingly better than I had remembered) just didn't have the power that 2-5 had.

i think the biggest mistake the show made was in the later epsiode, when jo and blair are at langly is that they do not fight with each other that much anymore. I thought the funnist moments the show had was when jo and blair fought.

A) In "Adoption" Blair tells the judge that Natatlie is a Libra. Then in the one where Alex (Mrs G's son) comes to visit, Natatlie says she's a taurus!!!

B) In the second half of "Into the frying pan" when Jo says "Oh come on everyone, (the builder's name) is here" As she says that she smacks Mrs.Garrett's "Edna's Edibles" sign.

C) In the first episode, Natalie says to Cindy "You can use the dress my sister gave me, i grew out of it before i grew into it." What sister?!?! she doesn't have on, if she did she'd be at natalie's dad's funeral

Cokies:Once again we agree! Man I'd like to see somethin we DON'T agree on! GLAD we agree...again.

At first when you said the envelope thing I was like "what the heck is he talkin about now?" but I know what you talkin about. Well said. True they licked envelopes together but how would you like to lick and talk at the same time? lol. But yeah I'm sure they were aquainted with each other. And I'm positive that they ran into each other more than once on campus or at school.


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Jo: Well I'm startin.

Nat: Where'd ya get the beer?

Jo: I got the beer. Here's to all who wish me well, all the rest can go to.......Jersey.
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Nobody's mentioned this one. When Jo was moving out they all kept saying that they'd lived together for 8 years. If this was true, Blair and Jo would've been freshmen when Jo moved in, but no, if I'm not mistaken they were juniors, right? Because in season one (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't seen it yet) Blair wins harvest queen as a sophomore, right? Either way, unless Blair and Jo were on the 5 year program, they could only have lived to gether for 7 years at the most, but if my other math is right, it was only 6. 7 seasons though, but it seems like they cheated and had more than one season count as the same school year. I have no problem with that as long as you don't cheat on the timeline.

No, no the writers screwed up again, Jo came in as a sophmore. Cause' they graduated two and a half years later in the spring of 83'. True, Blair was supposed to be a sophmore in the first season, but I think they just x-nayed that for story reasons. And the writers were again wrong, saying that they had been friends for 8 years, that would have to make Jo come in 79'. In truth, they had been friends for only 7 years.
And T, of course they could'nt of goten aquainted licking envelopes, WHAT was I thinking?Doh!( I was kidding, but i bet that's what the writer of 'The Little Chill' episode was thinking.)
Oh T, im a she by the way. Just a heads up for future reference.

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

That reminds me of a question I've had for aa while. N@N's episode guide doesn't break the seasons down, and every time I try to go to a different episode guide, my computer freezes, I get kicked off AOL, I have to eat, I get in trouble and have to clean my room, I get a phone call (this doesn't kick me offline since we have two lines, but I usually get off AOL when I'm on the phone so I can pay attention to the conversation and not get distracted), or something else happens that prevents me. It's like a conspiracy. Anyway, what YEAR did Blair and Jo graduate? I know it was season 4 (at least, I'm pretty sure it was), but I don't know if it was '82 or '83. Did the girls start a new school year with a new season? 'Cause I'm totally confused about their grades. If they started a new school year with every season, and Blair was a sophmore in season 1, she'd be a junior in all of season 2 and a senior in all of season 3, graduating in '82 at the end of season 3. But if she graduated in season 4, was it the beginning of season 4 in '82, or the end of season 4 in '83? If you ask me, they should have stated a new school year with the new season. They should do that with every show. I mean, new seasons start around the same time as students begin school for the year. Anyway, if any of this make sense to you, please explain what grades Blair and Jo were in in each season. I can figure out Natalie and Tootie's after I get theirs.

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"Well, Laverne is sort of childish" -Shirley

"Childish? Childish? Coming from a grown woman who throws tea parties for her stuffed cat!" -Laverne

"Well at least I don't sew L's on everything I wear!" -Shirley

"Well that would be pretty stupid considering your name's Shirley!" -Laverne

That's what I just said Laverne, they x-nayed Blair being a sophmore in season 1. They kept her as a sophmore in 80'-81'. Jo came in the fall of 80' at the beginning of their sophmore year. Blair and Jo graduated in the spring of 83'.(Get it,Sophmore year 80'-81,Junior year 81'-82, Senior year 82'-83') And yes, they started the seasons along with the start of the school year.

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

Of course, things get confusing with Tootie and Natalie too. Natalie is 2 years behind Blair and Jo and Tootie is a year behind Natalie. But when Tootie is learning to drive, it is her senior year, Natalie has already graduated, and they say Tootie is only 16. Did she skip a grade or something? Seems like writers just sticking something in there for fun because they forgot to make that episode a year earlier, when it would've been chrnologically correct. Do I analyze this too much? I think we all know the answer is yes.

Okay, if what Cokies said was true, completely ignore my previous post. Her post wasn't there before I started my reply.

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"Well, Laverne is sort of childish" -Shirley

"Childish? Childish? Coming from a grown woman who throws tea parties for her stuffed cat!" -Laverne

"Well at least I don't sew L's on everything I wear!" -Shirley

"Well that would be pretty stupid considering your name's Shirley!" -Laverne

Sorry Laverne if I sounded a bit condescending(sp?). No wonder I wanted Gore to win.

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

Oh, it's okay Cokies! I need to learn to reload the page more often. I but that long confusing post up, then when the page came back your first post was before it, so I replied to that saying to completely forget my long post, then I didn't even look at when the page came back, then I got on today and saw that you had posted again before I posted my "forget it" post. Dang, this message board is hard to keep up with... Anyway, thanks for clearing it up!

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"Well, Laverne is sort of childish" -Shirley

"Childish? Childish? Coming from a grown woman who throws tea parties for her stuffed cat!" -Laverne

"Well at least I don't sew L's on everything I wear!" -Shirley

"Well that would be pretty stupid considering your name's Shirley!" -Laverne

hey Kerrin, you're right about nat's sister, but in the ep, when mr ramsey wants to take tootie out of eastland, it was career day, and nat said her sister was a stewardess. what's up wit dat?

Whoops! Sorry for the little mix up Cokies! Sorry Women just don't usually agree with me! LOL.

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Jo: Well I'm startin.

Nat: Where'd ya get the beer?

Jo: I got the beer. Here's to all who wish me well, all the rest can go to.......Jersey.
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Oh and by the way Cokies, I don't neccesarily mean your a man when I say "man" it's just a stupid figure of speech I use a little too much. But yes I was assuming you were a guy.

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Jo: Well I'm startin.

Nat: Where'd ya get the beer?

Jo: I got the beer. Here's to all who wish me well, all the rest can go to.......Jersey.
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Oh , it wasnt about the 'Man!' part, but it was when you said 'What the heck is HE talkin' about now'. But that's alright, anybody can make a mistake like that on a message board. No big deal.


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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, except it was a Friday."

During the second season when we first meet Geri,Blair's cusin, she introuces her as Geri Warner. letting us know that Blair's father, and Geri's father are brothers. Well during the eposide then Blair's mother thought she might have breast cancer it was Geri was talking to Blairs mother about the test results, and Monica said that her sister could never keep her mouth shout. Which then lets us know that Blair's mother, and Geri's mother are sisters. Also Geri's last name changed from Warner to Tyler.

In the eposide when Cliff came back for Valentines day. Blair mentioned that he went to Huston for medical school, but the eposide when he acutually did leave for medical school he went to Dallas, but hey at least there both in the same state.

Oh I don't remember who posted about Natalie's birthday,someone said that Blair mentioned that she was a libra, but Blair actually said that she was a scopio.

Aha! I get it cokies. lol. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Jo: Well I'm startin.

Nat: Where'd ya get the beer?

Jo: I got the beer. Here's to all who wish me well, all the rest can go to.......Jersey.
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For those of you who commented on Blair being sophmore in 1979-1980 and then being a senior in 1982-83 I have a theory as to how this possibly could be the case without being a writer's blooper or anything like that. Maybe Blair went back a grade though we never see or hear any mention of this. I did. In 1978 I was in the eighth grade and my parents decided along with the school faculty that I should return to seventh grade due to age reasons. Maybe it was even printed in script outlines that Blair had gone back agrade even though it was never mentioned in any episodes that aired.You know on Gilligan's Island it was mentioned inthe scripts that Lovey's real first name was Eunice though we never heard it in the episodes themselves. And the FOL paid more attention to continuing story elements than most shows (Tooties' braces,for example, stayed on for years not just one episode like Marcia Brady's did on the Brady Bunch).

Speaking of the first season, we had John Lawlor as the headmaster.

Come season 2, there was Mr. Parker, and the writers played it as if Mr. Parker had been headmaster for years.

There was also a third headmaster in the final episode, but all that was said about him was that he came to eastland 25 years earlier as a substitute teacher, and never left, so it's logical that he could've become headmaster sometime between the time Mr. Parker stopped appearing on the show in the mid-80s, and season 9.

Writers..
I think the end was the biggest unexcusable mistake.
I just finished watching the "final" episode an hour ago. Ick. Yuk. Blecch.
Was it a final or a last gasping attempt to re-animate the show?
I love Blair,and I like Pippa,Terry(Juliette Lewis Rocks!) and the cute "new Natalie",little Blossom. However,it was sad.

Eastland is broke,but in 9(1979-1988) years they build one big dorm? Did the girls live w/ Mrs.G in a small dorm?(one of many dorm buildings in Season 1)

Rick's been gone and is back. Only a month since the wedding?? Wow. That was quick. Natalie moved to Soho between Pt I and II?
No goodbyes?!?! Nothing at all. Nooo!!!

What,did they think people wouldnt care
about Jo,Nat,or Tootie anymore?
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

Sigh,at least they "live" on in reruns.
But hey! Tommorow we're still at Eastland..only nine years earlier. Cool how that works out,huh? A girl much like Terry Rankin has a crisis..Cindy!
Mrs.G to the rescue!!
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

And only a month away til Jo!! Then things will be as they should.

Did Blair forget about the last time she was at the Chug-a-Lug bar? Can you imagine what Jo would have to say? Blair would never hear the end of it! LOL!

The whole motorcycle incident with Jo still bugs me. One minute she sales the thing and the next she's out riding it.

Then there's the thing with Nat's sister. She mentioned her in about 3 episodes, and I believe her name was Pat. I could very well be wrong though http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif (believe it or not!)

Then there was the set. The way that the kitchen was suddenly normal and there was an extra staircase...very odd.

In the episode where Jo decides to take the job in Cali, the first part of it where Tootie is leaving... It shows Jo shutting the door and then the camera pans back to her and the door is opened-that has always bothered me http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

Well, that's all I can think of now. We notice the oddest things http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Hopper: You know I am really a shy kind of guy,but I have been watching you from across the cabin,and I said to myself,"Hopper don't let this one slip away!"

Jo: You know I have been watching you too.You have a lot to be shy about!
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Beverly Ann: Let's see. It's tomorrow in Africa so if I want to talk to Edna today then I should have called her yesterday...
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Natalie: It's a busy day for me. I have to go down to the newspaper office, get a lung transplant...
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Blair: But if I'm not perfect... and that's a *BIG* if, then it wasn't his place to say so.

Jo: You're right. It's my place to say so.
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I found this old topic, and thought it was fairly interesting.

READ THROUGH IT to see if it is something that has been missed. That way, we can find new stuff....

:D

Originally posted by jayman75
I found this old topic, and thought it was fairly interesting.





:lol: Talk about analyzing a show to the extreme. I remember this topic, it was fun and made me think.

The entire grandparents thing with Jo bothers me...one minute she has none, the next she has one from Pollan of all places...(no pun intened, Chris;))





ks

Well maybe since Jo's grandfather lives in Poland, she "considered him dead" if she figured, "I'd like to know him, but, eh, I'll never see him---I'll never get to Poland."

Maybe that's kinda therapy for her since she thinks she'll never get to see him.

Then again, I've only seen that episode about Natalie's grandmother once so far, so Jo could have said other things to totally contradict me. :lol:

Originally posted by TallKyGuy
"I'd like to know him, but, eh, I'll never see him---I'll never get to Poland."

No JO! I'll take you there! :D

Originally posted by TallKyGuy

Then again, I've only seen that episode about Natalie's grandmother once so far, so Jo could have said other things to totally contradict me. :lol:

LOL, yeah, she said all her grandparents were dead.




ks