These were characters who lost somethng once they had their own show.

George Jefferson-Extremely Funny on All in the Family but Less funny on the Jeffersons.

Mork was a Huge hit on Happy Days and not funny at all on Mork and Mindy

Stanley Roper very funny on Three's Company and BORING on his show "The Ropers.


These three characters obviously needed Archie Bunker, Fonzie, and Jack Tripper to generate laughs which is why they were less funny on their own show. Anyone Agree

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Florida Evans!

Originally posted by Flash72
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Florida Evans!


What Does Florida Evans have to do anything? If you are saying that she was Funny on Maude and Good Times, I'm only discussing spinoffs. Good Times was not a spinoff.

Originally posted by SOLOMON
These were characters who lost somethng once they had their own show.

George Jefferson-Extremely Funny on All in the Family but Less funny on the Jeffersons.

Mork was a Huge hit on Happy Days and not funny at all on Mork and Mindy

These three characters obviously needed Archie Bunker, Fonzie, and Jack Tripper to generate laughs which is why they were less funny on their own show. Anyone Agree

I completely disagree. George Jeffersons got funnier on The Jeffersons when he left the tiring All In The Family show. Plus, it's quite clear the George didn't need Archie one bit because look how long the show lasted. TJ outlived AITF.

Mork was just as funny on his show as on Happy Days.

Originally posted by LucyFan
I completely disagree. George Jeffersons got funnier on The Jeffersons when he left the tiring All In The Family show. Plus, it's quite clear the George didn't need Archie one bit because look how long the show lasted. TJ outlived AITF.

Mork was just as funny on his show as on Happy Days.


I said George became LESS funny, Yes he still was funny on the Jeffersons but on AITF, He was WILD!!. On the Jeffersons, George became soft ans less mean as the years went on. Especially the 80's. Just look at a AITF episode with George from 73-75 and Look at a Jeffersons episode from 1980 and you will see the Difference.

Originally posted by SOLOMON
Good Times was not a spinoff.

That's a matter of your opinion. :)

I also thought that Florida Evans was funnier on Maude than Good Times. I loved what she said towards Maude on the show.

Originally posted by Sean Snow
That's a matter of your opinion. :)

I also thought that Florida Evans was funnier on Maude than Good Times. I loved what she said towards Maude on the show.


I was hoping someone didn't mention Florida Evans-LOL

Lisa Bonet was funny on The Cosby Show, but horribly boring on A Different World.

And I thought Good Times WAS a spin off.

Originally posted by Superbatboy
Lisa Bonet was funny on The Cosby Show, but horribly boring on A Different World.

And I thought Good Times WAS a spin off.

No, Good Times was not a spinoff, it was explained by the executive Producer of Good Times in 1975 that the Florida Evans character was changed Completely from the Florida Evans character on Maude.

Off topic, but I like your other name, SOLOMON better.

Originally posted by Janice
Off topic, but I like your other name, SOLOMON better.

Why?

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Why?
SOLOMON is more personal, and we all know you by that name. It has character with all caps, and sitcom analyzer was written under it anyway.
When people reply to you, it will a pain to write...well Sitcom Analyzer, I agree with that because....
Why not post a poll on Chit Chat. My guess is most will agree.

Originally posted by Janice
SOLOMON is more personal, and we all know you by that name. It has character with all caps, and sitcom analyzer was written under it anyway.
When people reply to you, it will a pain to write...well Sitcom Analyzer, I agree with that because....
Why not post a poll on Chit Chat. My guess is most will agree.

Janice besides Three's Company, whAt other 70's sitcom did u watch during it's original run?

Cheers, Family Ties, The Cosby Show, Night Court and Seinfeld. I would catch AITF and The Jeffersons occasionally too.

Originally posted by Janice
Cheers, Family Ties, The Cosby Show, Night Court and Seinfeld. I would catch AITF and The Jeffersons occasionally too.


When the Jeffersons started their own show, did you expect Edith and Archie to guest star on the Jeffersons?

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
When the Jeffersons started their own show, did you expect Edith and Archie to guest star on the Jeffersons?
SOLOMON, the truth is that I don't remember what or if I wondered about that.

Originally posted by Janice
SOLOMON, the truth is that I don't remember what or if I wondered about that.



Well maybe u were not a fan of those two shows.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Well maybe u were not a fan of those two shows.
I liked them a lot, but I was a teen and busy. I didn't watch them on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Sean Snow
That's a matter of your opinion. :)

I also thought that Florida Evans was funnier on Maude than Good Times. I loved what she said towards Maude on the show.

To preface my answer about characters there is some clarity about Florida Evans. Good Times, the character that Florida played, was a spinoff from Maude. Maude was a spinoff from All In the Family. To understand the whole Florida Evans thing one needs to look at the Maude episode when Florida leaves the Findlay's. That was Esther Rolle's final episode on Maude. The unfortunate thing about Good Times that it was orignally Esther Rolle's vehicle. It turned into an half hour of Jimmie Walker's stand up comedy routine. It got old and tiring. I enjoyed the authenicity and genuineness of James and Florida's relationship. Too bad more storylines could had dealt with them as a married couple. Florida was much funnier and sharper tongue on Maude than on Good Times.

Here is what TV Tome has to say about the whole Florida Evans thing that came from the episode guide of Maude:
42. Florida's Goodbye
gs: John Amos (Henry Evans) Conchata Farrell (Rita Valdez) Jeane Byron (Housekeeper Applicant)

After Henry, Florida's husband, gets a job promotion, she must tell Maude she's leaving to become a full-time housewife. As applicants for the new job come in, Maude finds something wrong with each one. Finally, at the end of the day, Maude must say goodbye to Florida.


b: 05-Feb-1974 pc: 216 w: John Rappaport d: Hal Cooper

NOTE: This is Esther Rolle's last episode, she took her character to the Maude spin-off "Good Times" which debuted three days later on February 8, 1974

Other characters that was funnier on the Parent Show and less funny on their own spinoff:
The champion of all: Rhoda Morgenstern - Rhoda. She was far more funnier on The Mary Tyler Moore Show than on her show as Rhoda. Valerie Harper and David Groh had the worst TV chemistry than any married TV couple on the air. Marrying off Rhoda immediately was a huge mistake. That would had made a good series finale. Marrying Rhoda, separating her and Joe and the divorce turned the show into a soap opera. Valerie Harper had better chemistry with Josh Taylor on the Hogan Family than with David Groh.

Edna Garrett - Far funnier on Diffrernt Strokes than on the Facts of Life.

Florence Johnston - When she had her own show. It was pathetic. She needed George Jefferson. That was when she was at her best.

Originally posted by mstewart
To preface my answer about characters there is some clarity about Florida Evans. Good Times, the character that Florida played, was a spinoff from Maude. Maude was a spinoff from All In the Family. To understand the whole Florida Evans thing one needs to look at the Maude episode when Florida leaves the Findlay's. That was Esther Rolle's final episode on Maude. The unfortunate thing about Good Times that it was orignally Esther Rolle's vehicle. It turned into an half hour of Jimmie Walker's stand up comedy routine. It got old and tiring. I enjoyed the authenicity and genuineness of James and Florida's relationship. Too bad more storylines could had dealt with them as a married couple. Florida was much funnier and sharper tongue on Maude than on Good Times.

Here is what TV Tome has to say about the whole Florida Evans thing that came from the episode guide of Maude:
42. Florida's Goodbye
gs: John Amos (Henry Evans) Conchata Farrell (Rita Valdez) Jeane Byron (Housekeeper Applicant)

After Henry, Florida's husband, gets a job promotion, she must tell Maude she's leaving to become a full-time housewife. As applicants for the new job come in, Maude finds something wrong with each one. Finally, at the end of the day, Maude must say goodbye to Florida.


b: 05-Feb-1974 pc: 216 w: John Rappaport d: Hal Cooper

NOTE: This is Esther Rolle's last episode, she took her character to the Maude spin-off "Good Times" which debuted three days later on February 8, 1974

Other characters that was funnier on the Parent Show and less funny on their own spinoff:
The champion of all: Rhoda Morgenstern - Rhoda. She was far more funnier on The Mary Tyler Moore Show than on her show as Rhoda. Valerie Harper and David Groh had the worst TV chemistry than any married TV couple on the air. Marrying off Rhoda immediately was a huge mistake. That would had made a good series finale. Marrying Rhoda, separating her and Joe and the divorce turned the show into a soap opera. Valerie Harper had better chemistry with Josh Taylor on the Hogan Family than with David Groh.

Edna Garrett - Far funnier on Diffrernt Strokes than on the Facts of Life.

Florence Johnston - When she had her own show. It was pathetic. She needed George Jefferson. That was when she was at her best.



UNtil Norman Lear tells me how Florida Evans landed in Chicago from upstate NY, Good Times will not be a spinoff.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
UNtil Norman Lear tells me how Florida Evans landed in Chicago from upstate NY, Good Times will not be a spinoff.

Well the facts were given. Look at Rhoda Morgenstern she moved from Minneapolis to New York. Anyhow that was my insight and thoughts on the Florida Evans character. I think if you watch the E True Hollywood Story that whole discussion will shed some light.

Anyhow another character I thought was horrible on her own show but hilarious on the parent show was Florence Jean Casterberry. She LOL funny on Alice. She was the show and that what pissed Linda Lavin off. Alice was never the same after Flo left.

Originally posted by mstewart
Well the facts were given. Look at Rhoda Morgenstern she moved from Minneapolis to New York. Anyhow that was my insight and thoughts on the Florida Evans character. I think if you watch the E True Hollywood Story that whole discussion will shed some light.

Anyhow another character I thought was horrible on her own show but hilarious on the parent show was Florence Jean Casterberry. She LOL funny on Alice. She was the show and that what pissed Linda Lavin off. Alice was never the same after Flo left.


Well was it explained on MAry Tyler Moore or the first episode of Rhoda, why the Rhoda character moved from Minneapolis to NYC?

Flo was much funnier on Alice than on her spin-off!:p

Originally posted by Sean Snow
That's a matter of your opinion. :)

I also thought that Florida Evans was funnier on Maude than Good Times. I loved what she said towards Maude on the show.

just like All In The Family/Archie Bunker's Place, eh? ;) ;) you know what i'm talkin about.

Good Times was a spinoff of Maude.

I would say I liked Rhoda Morgenstern a lot more on the MTM show than I ever did on Rhoda...The MTM show lost a lot when she left, and "Rhoda" was never that good of a show to begin with...

Ditto with Phyllis...I liked her as Mary's landlady on MTM, but the show "Phyllis" really sucked...

So there's two right there that were better on the original show...

Joanie and Chachi were stupid characters on Happy Days (which was only decent for a year or two before it jumped the shark), and were no doubt worse in "Joanie Loves Chachi"...

I never liked "Alice" or any of the people on that show...I never thought Flo was funny...

Good Times was definitely spun off from Maude...I don't remember Maude well enough to know how good Florida was on that show, but she must have received a favorable reaction to get a show of her own... Of course, on Good Times, she was a serious character who ended up playing second-fiddle to J.J.


In fact, speaking of "J.J." and "Flo", here's the ultimate question...if you HAD to spend eternity listening non-stop either to Jimmy Walker saying "Dy-no-mite!" or Flo saying "Kiss Mah Grits", which would YOU choose?

something to think about, eh?

Originally posted by Tweety
I would say I liked Rhoda Morgenstern a lot more on the MTM show than I ever did on Rhoda...The MTM show lost a lot when she left, and "Rhoda" was never that good of a show to begin with...

Ditto with Phyllis...I liked her as Mary's landlady on MTM, but the show "Phyllis" really sucked...

So there's two right there that were better on the original show...

Joanie and Chachi were stupid characters on Happy Days (which was only decent for a year or two before it jumped the shark), and were no doubt worse in "Joanie Loves Chachi"...

I never liked "Alice" or any of the people on that show...I never thought Flo was funny...

Good Times was definitely spun off from Maude...I don't remember Maude well enough to know how good Florida was on that show, but she must have received a favorable reaction to get a show of her own... Of course, on Good Times, she was a serious character who ended up playing second-fiddle to J.J.


In fact, speaking of "J.J." and "Flo", here's the ultimate question...if you HAD to spend eternity listening non-stop either to Jimmy Walker saying "Dy-no-mite!" or Flo saying "Kiss Mah Grits", which would YOU choose?

something to think about, eh?




I think i can stomach Kiss my Grits before Dyno-mite

George Jefferson was mega funny on the Jeffersons. Might have lost it in the last year or so, but I don't see the relevance in that to your question.
Sitcom analyser isn't an attractive name. As Jenny might say, "JMO".:wave:

Originally posted by Kitt
George Jefferson was mega funny on the Jeffersons. Might have lost it in the last year or so, but I don't see the relevance in that to your question.
Sitcom analyser isn't an attractive name. As Jenny might say, "JMO".:wave:


George was more Feisty on All in the Family and became TOO NICE on the Jeffersons. And what's wrong with Sitcom Analyzer?

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
George was more Feisty on All in the Family and became TOO NICE on the Jeffersons. And what's wrong with Sitcom Analyzer?

I can't describe it. But I do know that you were known here for almost a year as SOLOMON and we're in the early stages of adjusting to your new name. I know I am.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
George was more Feisty on All in the Family and became TOO NICE on the Jeffersons. And what's wrong with Sitcom Analyzer?

George Jefferson was nicer? Hmmm...we must have not been watching the same show.
SOLOMON is the better name because the title under your name already says "Sitcom Analyzer." We got the point the first time. You analyze sitcoms. Good for you.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
And what's wrong with Sitcom Analyzer? Just sounds clinical to me. Generic. But like I said, JMO. If you like it...

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*
George Jefferson was nicer? Hmmm...we must have not been watching the same show.
SOLOMON is the better name because the title under your name already says "Sitcom Analyzer." We got the point the first time. You analyze sitcoms. Good for you.


George became nicer in late 70's, early 80's. You don't remember that?

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
George became nicer in late 70's, early 80's. You don't remember that?

Nope. Sorry.

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*
Nope. Sorry.


Well you must have never seen any Jeffersons episodes after 1979.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Well you must have never seen any Jeffersons episodes after 1979.

Nope, you're wrong as usual. I've seen episodes from all but the last season.

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*
Nope, you're wrong as usual. I've seen episodes from all but the last season.

So if you saw episodes from the 80's, why are you saying George wasn't nice? You are confusing me

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
So if you saw episodes from the 80's, why are you saying George wasn't nice? You are confusing me

I'm confusing you? I just don't happen to share your opinion (and that's all it is) that George became nice.

George Jefferson screamed and yelled, in varying degrees, throughout the entire run of the show.

Originally posted by Janice
George Jefferson screamed and yelled, in varying degrees, throughout the entire run of the show.


George Jefferson did not yell and scream at all after 1981

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
George Jefferson did not yell and scream at all after 1981
He most certainly did. George was mad at least once per episode.

Originally posted by Janice
He most certainly did. George was mad at least once per episode.


Well I remember George being calm all the time after 81

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Well I remember George being calm all the time after 81

If that is so, then I guess your definition of "calm" is quite different from ours.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
So if you saw episodes from the 80's, why are you saying George wasn't nice? You are confusing me
What!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

It is actually the other way around: you're confusing us.

Originally posted by Kitt
Just sounds clinical to me. Generic.

I agree. SOLOMON was a good username I thought BUTT I guess he had to change to Sitcom ANALyzer.

Originally posted by Kitt
George Jefferson was mega funny on the Jeffersons. Might have lost it in the last year or so, but I don't see the relevance in that to your question.
Oh, right on! George, I thought, was extremely funny on The Jeffersons. His arguments with his wife and the Wilses were hilariously outrageous! I had the most fun watching him on his own show [Jeffersons] than All in the Family.

Originally posted by Kitt
Sitcom analyser isn't an attractive name. As Jenny might say, "JMO".:wave:
May you say more? ;)

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
UNtil Norman Lear tells me how Florida Evans landed in Chicago from upstate NY, Good Times will not be a spinoff.
oh geez. :rolleyes:

SOLOMON, I have concluded that whatever evidence (or answer) we give to you is either wrong or not nearly as good as yours as the way you see it. If that is the case, then why are we even having conversations w/ you about sitcoms when we know for a fact that our answers are wrong no matter what.

Originally posted by LucyFan
oh geez. :rolleyes:

SOLOMON, I have concluded that whatever evidence (or answer) we give to you is either wrong or not nearly as good as yours as the way you see it. If that is the case, then why are we even having conversations w/ you about sitcoms when we know for a fact that our answers are wrong no matter what.


No one has given me an example of when George was mean in the 80's. so i'm still waiting.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
No one has given me an example of when George was mean in the 80's. so i'm still waiting.

Well, gee, we didn't know we had to give you an example. What does it matter anyway? It's just an opinion. Get over yourself.