Always try to purchase episodes or tapes that are not that expensive. No more than $20. I just read a post from a guy who is out of $150 and didn't get his tapes. Please whatever you do never never send someone off this board that much money. It's too risky. Most of my purchases have always been $15 and under. I think someone should only send $150 to a company not a person off this board. Hopefully everyone takes this post seriously.

Hind site is always 20/20, isn't it? That's why I wish more traders/sellers took PayPal, where there's accountability. In the case of sending money orders, checks, or even cash, it's your word against theirs. Someone can get blackballed because of mere words, but remember this: what goes around comes around in both good and bad. "Whatsoever ye sow, that shall ye also reap."

Originally posted by Jeneric
Hind site is always 20/20, isn't it? That's why I wish more traders/sellers took PayPal, where there's accountability. In the case of sending money orders, checks, or even cash, it's your word against theirs. Someone can get blackballed because of mere words, but remember this: what goes around comes around in both good and bad. "Whatsoever ye sow, that shall ye also reap."

Not everyone is a bad seller but I agree with Jeneric. I wish everyone used PayPal. Pay with PayPal, use Delivery Confirmation on your packages (which I do for everything anyhow) and you are covered.

use Delivery Confirmation on your packages (which I do for everything anyhow) and you are covered.

Using Delivery Confirmation only covers you once you've mailed the proof (post office dated slip) to the recipient. Until that actually transpires, the sender has no leg to stand on, and it will make any customer doubtful and quite possibly obnoxious.

It is very sad when we even have to use Delivery Confirmation so much these days. Too bad this is necessary, but such is the way of the world today. :(

i always use confirmation for this reason when sending a package to someone. - because when i order something and the seller sends a confirmation # i can feel secure its on the way. and by going online i can track it also. then if it never arrives i can say it was lost and not the seller never sending it. i also want people who buy or trade with me to feel that same security !! I have a brother that works in the p.o and he said it was terrible how many people make a living from mail fraud every year. And the bad thing is that they think they're in the right and that we're in the wrong !!

The bottom line, is that it is far more important for sellers to be honest than for buyers to beware. If the sellers are honest, then buyers have nothing to fear. It is putting the cart before the horse to put the blame on the customer rather than on the root cause. However, warning folks to not send so much money to someone for tapes or anything else for that matter, preventive medicine, if you will, is wise only in that honesty is a fading characteristic. Is it wrong to be trusting? Of course not. Then let's not blame the customer, especially when so much time has elapsed.

In the case where a package has truly been lost, an honest seller would not hesitate to forward the postal dated delivery confirmation slip out to the customer to set the customer's mind at rest, proving that the package was actually mailed; however, since I have shipped and received literally thousands of packages over the last four years via eBay, Half.com, and Alibris (on-line bookstore), I know what I am talking about when I state that it is extremely rare for a package to get lost in transit. I have only had it happen to me once, and the circumstances were very suspicious.

Incidently, postal workers admit quite freely that packages with only delivery confirmation (no insurance) cannot be actually located by the Post Office in any way, shape, or form.

i agree 110%. I also state that keeping in touch with your customers by sending confirmation , by letting them know how their order is going and being friendly throughout the transaction makes a great difference in business. Also if i dont have time or too many irons in the fire, i won't accept an order or ask the customer to wait , else notify them a time limit of processing. A good conscience to me means more than anything else, and being honest is fore front in having one. I know then sleep will come easy !!:crazy:

My aunt works at the post office so I KNOW packages get LOST by USPS ALL THE TIME! I have had SEVERAL packages from Ebay purchases LOST by USPS over the past few years. Packages DO get lost by USPS and packages are NOT always scanned when the package needs to be scanned.

I'd have to agree with Teboomer, I've had SEVERAL money orders and packages over the past 3 years from sellers on Ebay & from people on THESE BOARDS that swear they sent the tapes and they provide delivery confirmation numbers and the packages are lost all of he time. I WORK at USPS so I KNOW how UNRELIABLE USPS is and how USPS loses packages, money orders and mail all of the time! I've personally had packages going from CA to NY that were sent PRIORITY that took a MONTH to get to NY from California.

Originally posted by mcjohnc
I'd have to agree with Teboomer, I've had SEVERAL money orders and packages over the past 3 years from sellers on Ebay & from people on THESE BOARDS that swear they sent the tapes and they provide delivery confirmation numbers and the packages are lost all of he time. I WORK at USPS so I KNOW how UNRELIABLE USPS is and how USPS loses packages, money orders and mail all of the time! I've personally had packages going from CA to NY that were sent PRIORITY that took a MONTH to get to NY from California.


Which is why i decided to only purchase ebay items for people on the eastcoast instead of the westcoast. But when Tina sent me a tape from seattle on a Saturday it surprisingly arrived on monday morning. But on ebay, when i ordered things from people in CA, either I never received it or it took forever

I do not doubt that packages do get lost by the USPS, though extremely rarely; however, when delivery confirmation is used, the number will register on USPS on-line (http://www.usps.com/shipping/trackandconfirm.htm) .

When I inquired at the post office about this situation a month ago, they told me that it was never mailed if the delivery confirmation # perpetually states (for more than a few days) the following: There is no record of that item. If it was mailed recently, information may not yet be available. Please try again later.

The postal worker told me that I needed to ask Tina to mail me the postal dated delivery confirmation form to prove that what she was telling me was the truth, which he didn't believe himself.

In an April 23rd email Tina stated:
I told you that I would replace the taps if they got lost. Although right now I'm in the middle of a 21 tape order. and I can only hope at this point. :(

Tina is both teboomer and mcjohnc (http://www.bradyworld.com/bulletin/collect/pcoll148.htm) though by the time you read this she may have edited her post to say otherwise.

I've traded with a person on this board before and got the tape. But the quality was not that good. So there are some honest traders around. At least I got the tape.

Crystal :ducky:

Originally posted by robert-reed-fan
I've traded with a person on this board before and got the tape. But the quality was not that good. So there are some honest traders around. At least I got the tape.

Crystal :ducky:


Sometimes i will not have a problem with quality of a show if it was short-lived because most short lived shows are hard to find. I ordered a show that aired only one month and i could barely hear the show or see it clear because at the time there wasn;'t not cable in a lot of households and it was only antennas-LOL

If the Delivery confirmation was not SCANNED by the USPS employee then it will NOT show up in the system and happens ALL THE TIME! so if it was not scanned at the post office it would not showup ONLINE OR at the post office, which is probably what happened with your package because I have sent Tina $300 at one time for tapes and I had no problem receiving my tapes.:p :wave:

Originally posted by mcjohnc
If the Delivery confirmation was not SCANNED by the USPS employee then it will NOT show up in the system and happens ALL THE TIME! so if it was not scanned at the post office it would not showup ONLINE OR at the post office, which is probably what happened with your pacage because I have sent Tina $300 at one time for tapes and I had no problem receiving my tapes.:p :wave:


$300? Sounds like Tina is the Tape trader of the year-LOL

I have sent Tina $300 at one time for tapes and I had no problem receiving my tapes.

Wow! You're brave. How long was it before you received your order? That must have really overwhelmed her. With my paltry $100 order (14 tapes), though she assured me it'd take 2-3 weeks, I can only imagine how long a $300 order would be. It must have been pretty quick folks, because Tina is both teboomer and mcjohnc (http://www.bradyworld.com/bulletin/collect/pcoll148.htm) though by the time you read this she may have edited her post to say otherwise.

No one is perfect, by any stretch of the imagination; however, purposefully sinning (lying, stealing, cheating, killing) because one is overwhelmed with the task set before him/her is something one does intentionally. That is where friendships are severed and trust is lost.

My husband is a pastor, and yesterday, during his sermons for the day, he spoke on justice in the morning service and then on forgiveness in the evening. We must be willing to forgive 70 times 7 (which is a whole lot), but it is far easier to do just that when an offender has admitted the offense rather than made up excuses. No matter what happens, it is still our responsibility to forgive and not be bitter; however, how many times must we get burned at the stove before we finally learn to keep away? :(

As far as justice is concerned, the Lord says in His Word, "I will repay, saith the Lord." No matter what any of us may admit, only God knows all of the secrets of the heart, and He will see that those things done in darkness are brought to light, not necessarily within our timetables. And by the same token, honesty will reap a good harvest. :)

USPS
My aunt works at the post office so I KNOW packages get LOST by USPS ALL THE TIME! I have had SEVERAL packages from Ebay purchases LOST by USPS over the past few years. Packages DO get lost by USPS and packages are NOT always scanned when the package needs to be scanned.

So whats the problem with TEBOOMER ??????????
She states on her website ( she will replace any order lost by usps ) doesn't she ?????
Therefore THE POSTOFFICE CANNOT BE USED AS JUSTIFICATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man i tell you, before i would have my reputation ruined i would take my website down and quit selling for good..........
"A good name is to be honored above all "
"A good conscience before God is above all things" - unless it has been seared as with a hot iron " then i guess folks don't care what they do whether it be murder , cheating, lying , stealing, rape, etc.....
Jeneric , a lot of folks will use Christianity for their advantage, in other words, they think it gives them a right to cheat and do wrong to God's people, they think we're not supposed to take a stand against the works of evil and lay down and be trampled on. But no , thats not the way it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My aunt works at the post office so I KNOW packages get LOST by USPS ALL THE TIME! I have had SEVERAL packages from Ebay purchases LOST by USPS over the past few years. Packages DO get lost by USPS and packages are NOT always scanned when the package needs to be scanned.

In this case, it is absolutely necessary that the sender send the recipient a postal dated confirmation form. Period. This would be all the proof a customer should need to ensure trust in the seller. Without that, there is absolutely no proof, no matter what is said.

It wasn't until just the other day when I found out that someone else was in the same boat as I've been in for over three months. It was at that point where I realized that I couldn't keep silent about this because the circumstances are all too coincidental for comfort.

Yes, it is sad that some will use Christianity for their advantage. Too many people expect Christians to just turn the other cheek all the time. Even Christ Himself didn't do that (i.e. the case of the money changers). In this case, to continue to keep silent I'm hurting someone else, not just myself, and quite possibly others. To let dave w. be made to look the fool would be negligent on my part. "Judge righteous judgment" the Lord tells us, and if I can do anything to rectify this situation, I don't feel as though I have any other choice but to speak up even if I never see the rest of my tapes. :(

I bought the complete sets of the following tv series from her:
The Invaders
My Mother the Car
8 Simple Rules

teboomer (alias mcjohnc) said:

I bought the complete sets of the following tv series from her:

The Invaders
My Mother the Car
8 Simple Rules

If I'm not mistaken, from an email I received from Tina, she hadn't even acquired "The Invaders" until after my order was received. Maybe the reason why dave w. and my orders didn't get filled was because she was working on your $300 order. For myself, I do not like to take on orders beyond one week in advance so as not to frustrate a fellow trader or myself.

Is it quite fair to be using different aliases in a situation like this? Tina is both teboomer and mcjohnc (http://www.bradyworld.com/bulletin/collect/pcoll148.htm) and who else? Though by the time you read this she may have edited her post to say otherwise.

I placed my order for the Invaders, etc. in JANUARY and she sent me 6 tapes per week until she completed my order. Tina had the complete The Invaders set except 6 episodes, 4 months ago. She just needed to get the last 6 she needed and then she sent it to me in April. I didn't have a problem with placing an order with Tina for $300 and I would do it AGAIN! No problem. The more you bug her about your order though the longer it will take, but you WILL get your tapes from her. She is very busy with orders sometimes so she can't always answer e-mail all of the time.

She is very busy with orders sometimes so she can't always answer e-mail all of the time.

She has always answered my emails, no matter how small the question has been. Part of my nervousness about this whole situation is that Tina told me that it'd take 2-3 weeks for my order to be completed, and then when I'd email her asking how the taping was going every week or so, she'd tell me that she has 2-3 orders per week, that she does it mainly on the weekend, etc.. If she hadn't told me that it'd take 2-3 weeks but at least 2-3 months, it'd have made a difference in my outlook on this. It is very hard to wait on an order, to be put off over and over again.

I've been waiting for 3 and 1/2 months (since Feb. 11th), and this last time she told me that she'd replace the tapes in question over a month ago, refusing to send me the postal dated delivery confirmation form. :rolleyes: Understandably, it makes me wonder why. So much time has lapsed that it is very hard to believe that one can be that busy. And if she is filling orders according to the time when they came in, dave w. and I are not the only ones frustrated. I imagine that she's probably fulfilling some orders sooner than others, with folks she's trading with or friends as priority, which may account for some of the positive reviews stated here recently. And then there's dave w. and me. Where do we fall in line in the scheme of things. Apparently way down the totem pole. :(

The more you bug her about your order though the longer it will take
In my dealings with selling over the internet, I have made it a priority to be polite and answer questions from customers, without hesitancy. I don't know about you, but I would much rather buy from someone that is courteous and honest, and even pay more for an item than frequent a store that has rude cashiers. This is how you get return customers in the business world.

Actually, I haven't bothered her about my order, unless you consider emailing her every week or two (far less as of late) checking on the status of my order bugging her. I hesitated even posting my recent posts because I was so afraid that if I said anything that I wouldn't get my tapes; however, since dave w. was wrongly treated, trampled upon by a pack of hyenas, so-to-speak, I would be in the wrong to ignore that treatment. His circumstances are too similar to my own for comfort. And if I never get my tapes, so be it. I've made the decision to stand for right even to spite my face. While I'm not rolling in the dough, my hubby wants me to spend my book business money on fun things, whereas dave w. is the primary wage earner in his family and is affected far more than my family is by this situation.


:(

You both must of done something to tick Tina off becausre I have heard NOTHING but GREAT things about her. You shouldn't be bugging her every week about your order maybe that is why she might of maybe gotten rude with you... I have SEEN some of the e-mails Dave has sent to Tina and if I were her I would report Dave for harassment. Dave's e-mails are VERY RUDE harassing & OBNOXIOUS E-mails! No wonder she is ignoring your e-mails!Tina told me when you (jeneric) placed your order and it was in FEBRUARY which is NOT 3 1/2 months ago. I've heard PLENTY of stuff about Jeneric & Dave from at least 5 people and the comments are NOT GOOD! She has done 1000's of trades nd orders with NO PROBLEMS and you 2 are the ONLY ones who seem to have had a problem. so it must be YOU 2, not Tina.I wouldn't recommend EITHER of you as good traders after reading your posts/comments about Tina and I have never even traded with you and I don't plan on doing any trading with either of you either! In fact I just had somebody ask me about Jeneric on Friday and I told them I wouldn't recommend her for trading after reading her posts on here. I've heard too many negative things about Jeneric & Dave W from SEVERAL people.

Originally posted by mcjohnc
In fact I just had somebody ask me about Jeneric on Friday and I told them I wouldn't recommend her for trading after reading her posts on here. I've heard too many negative things about Jeneric & Dave W from SEVERAL people.


I have been trying to stay out of this until now but I put my foot down.

I have dealt with Jeneric now for sevearl weeks and she's nothing but polite, kind and more than willing to work out problems. She's NEVER been rude, she's NEVER ignored emails. A post like this is made out of pure hatred. I would deal with 1,000 Jenerics before I would deal with some of the people who have posted in this thread.

The above comments really really anger me. :mad:

report me for harassment ?? or for wanting my money back ??
what should i report her for - THEFT ???
you was the one emailed me saying i had an attitude problem for wanting my refund !!
BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER

IM with you Nanny, Jeneric is tops in my book, ive only done a few trades with her, but shes super friendly, polite, answers every email with courtesy.

The e-mails to me from Jeneric STARTED OUT all nice & friendly but then she started making FALSE accusations and her e-mails turned negative & mean. Do a search on this board for her name and you will see what I mean... I still have a copy of ALL of MY e-mails to Jeneric & ALL of HER e-mails to me. If anybody wants a copy of them I will send them a copy of the e-mails. Up until April I would of recommended Jeneric for trading.. but lately I have changed my mind. I have people asking me all the time if I have traded with somebody since I DO do a LOT of trading and have dne tapes for a LOT of people so I am asked for a reference for somebody at LEAST 5 times a week. In fact I WAS going to send Jeneric an extra tape and send her 15 tapes for the $100 she sent to me and I TOLD her that since I have been in the hospital and have had a death in my family which caused me to get behind on her order but now I will NOT do that. I THOUGHT she understood when she said OK.. but I guess she doesn't think about anybody else but HERSELF.. she just wants her tapes.. she could CARE LESS about anybody elses health or take into consideration that things do come up in life that can delay tape orders.

Jeneric, I will send either your tapes out or refund the rest of your money by 5/30.

Tina told me when you (jeneric) placed your order and it was in FEBRUARY which is NOT 3 1/2 months ago.

February 11th was exactly 3 and 1/2 months ago, actually, to the day (3 months 15 days). But once again, Tina is both teboomer and mcjohnc (http://www.bradyworld.com/bulletin/collect/pcoll148.htm) I have never been rude to Tina, and it is not unrealistic to be emailed every week or two when a transaction was to take 2-3 weeks. I wasn't pushy, but politely asked how it was going.

As far as dave w. being a poor risk, that is completely untrue from my trades with him. I appreciate his comments as well as nanny fine's, though I have treated them no better than they have me.

Jeneric also must not know how to COUNT either since she placed her order in FEBRUARY and I have the e-mail to PROVE it so it has NOT been 3 /12 months.

The e-mails to me from Jeneric STARTED OUT all nice & friendly but then she started making FALSE accusations and her e-mails turned negative & mean.

Tina, you know that this is completely untrue. I have been polite all along the way, even throughout my doubts. And now hearing you say this about me as well, not just in regard to dave w., I have even fewer doubts as to his integrity. I have stated facts, trying to keep emotions out of this situation. There is nothing more to say. There is One who knows the truth. :(

WRONG! I have your fist e-mail and it was AFTER 2/11 and I did receive your money until the END of Feb.

I still have copies of the e-mails and your e-mails ended up getting VERY PUSHY and VERY negative and I can PROVE IT! whoever wants proof can just e-mail me and i will send them a copy of the e-mails!

Can you guys please take this private? I realize you guys are warning people and all but frankly I've read about as much of as I can.

Originally posted by Nanny Fine
Can you guys please take this private? I realize you guys are warning people and all but frankly I've read about as much of as I can.


Nanny Fine did you get my PM about the shows you have?

Tina forwarded Jeneric's e-mails to me and they are VERY PUSHY VERY RUDE and VERY UNchristian like!

Thats what this board is all about isnt it ? yes ,thats all she should want since thats what she paid for !! She never purchased any part of your private life, did she ? It's not like she's moved in with you ,is it ?
You still won't answer my emails ,making YOUR decision on refunding my 150.00
please dont use the posts and emails ,calling them unkind and etc... as an excuse to justify bad business.Regardless of all thats been said it Doesn't give you any right not to honor your business.
If you can't handle orders, don't reply to peoples wants as you did mine.
If you can't provide what you sell, get out of the business and find something you can handle.
If you had honored your part of these purchases, the first post would have never been posted and everything would have been normal the way it should be. And no doubt, now you won't get nearly as many orders as you would have before because folks will be too scared it will happen to them also. As for me getting trades and so on, i can care less, as i dont make my living doing this. All i wanted was the Petticoat Junctions, Green Acres, and Mr. Ed's , for my 3 children , who has never seen very many of them at all and you was the first to reply to having them. You shouldn't need to be pressured into refunding and sending orders. You should volunteer to email customers when something is wrong, sickness, how their order is going ,etc... you not once volunteered to mail me and was rude and snobby when asked about my order. And it dont take a few minutes to make your decision on my refund. You use all excuses not answering my emails but you won't post your decision publicly on here either. This doesn't involve other people either, but you choose to post on board because you know theres folks on here that defends you and it makes you feel a little better, don't it. A person is offended only when it is taken as an offense. As the old saying goes - If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen . Just some advice on what good business requires . thanks

Teboomer wrote:
WRONG! I have your fist e-mail and it was AFTER 2/11 and I did receive your money until the END of Feb.

I know very little about computers, but here is my attempt at posting the February 11th letter that I have referred to over and over letter (http://www.geocities.com/jenericbooks/teboomer.html)

I never wrote one unkind letter to Tina, throughout this whole ordeal contrary to what's been said on these few pages. I'm not going to defend myself, as it accomplishes nothing. Everyone can choose to believe whom they want to believe, and not trade with me if they don't want to. Trading is fun but not all the world to me. All those that have traded with me know the truth about me, and that is enough.

And Nanny? You're right, and I'm getting out of the ring. :(

Originally posted by Jeneric



And Nanny? You're right, and I'm getting out of the ring. :(


:( You can still trade with me :(

You can still trade with me

Why of course! :D I'm out of the ring, but still in the room. :)

:wave:

Originally posted by Jeneric


Why of course! :D I'm out of the ring, but still in the room. :)

:wave:

That last post by dave was kind of sad when he said the shows he hadn't received yet was for his kids. I hope hope everything works out. And for you also Jeneric.

Jeneric ALTERED the e-mail. I know since I have the original AND the ORIGINAL envelope you sent your money to me in and it is postmarked AFTER 2/11.

That last post by dave was kind of sad when he said the shows he hadn't received yet was for his kids. I hope hope everything works out. And for you also Jeneric.

Thanks, Solomon! I'll keep you posted. :wave:

Originally posted by mcjohnc
I bought the complete sets of the following tv series from her:
The Invaders
My Mother the Car
8 Simple Rules

It is kind of pathetic to register a new name and post trying to make the people who have done nothing wrong in this thread look bad, teboomer.

You are one person I'd steer far and clear from.

Originally posted by Jeneric
Teboomer wrote:


I know very little about computers, but here is my attempt at posting the February 11th letter that I have referred to over and over letter (http://www.geocities.com/jenericbooks/teboomer.html)

I never wrote one unkind letter to Tina, throughout this whole ordeal contrary to what's been said on these few pages. I'm not going to defend myself, as it accomplishes nothing. Everyone can choose to believe whom they want to believe, and not trade with me if they don't want to. Trading is fun but not all the world to me. All those that have traded with me know the truth about me, and that is enough.

And Nanny? You're right, and I'm getting out of the ring. :(

I believe you, Jen. I'm 100% positive teboomer is the same person that bid on one of my ebay auctions and never paid which says a lot about a person's sense of honoring their commitments. Small world, huh? She blew her reputation over $5.99. :rolleyes:

http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=tldbtr

Tina Ledbetter/teboomer/mcjohnc wrote:

Jeneric ALTERED the e-mail. I know since I have the original AND the ORIGINAL envelope you sent your money to me in and it is postmarked AFTER 2/11.

I did get out of the ring. Really I did, but I just have this one last thing to say. I used delivery confirmation #0304 7990 0004 5526 3834 to mail the money to Tina Ledbetter (teboomer; mcjohnc). Cut and paste the number and see that I am telling the truth about her receiving the money on February 11, 2003, 3 and 1/2 months ago, at 1:00 p.m. exactly. United States Postal Service Delivery Confirmation (http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/netdata-cgi/db2www/cbd_243.d2w/output)

By the way, thanks, grape jelly. I appreciate your encouragement.

:wave:

I use Delivery Confirmation on absolutely every single thing I send through the mail. JUST for cases like this.

I use Delivery Confirmation on absolutely every single thing I send through the mail. JUST for cases like this.

And the moral to the story is this: don't throw the forms out... even 3 and 1/2 months later! I hate clutter, but in this case, I have to admit that my dear hubby is right! I may even start to not balk at his saving old phone books! :D

I believe you, Jen. I'm 100% positive teboomer is the same person that bid on one of my ebay auctions and never paid which says a lot about a person's sense of honoring their own word. Small world, huh? She blew her reputation over $5.99.

You're absolutely right, grape jelly. Anyone can go to ebay's search page (http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_bidder.html), and just type in someone's email address. I do that alllllllll the time when checking up references for fellow traders. (Oops! My secret's out!) :eek: Even in the case that's been discussed here I did that, but I like to give the benefit of the doubt. I mean, we all make mistakes. It's amazing what one can find out with the internet. Scary thought, too. :rolleyes:

Tina and all of your aliases (teboomer, mcjohnc, ?),

If you even privately apologize to me for the slander, delay in sending, deceit, rudeness, etc., I will gladly accept it. To do as you have done to both dave w., me, and possibly others, without making at least private apologies and restitution (in time) you will hang yourself eventually. But you cannot keep this up because you will be found out, and you'll be in an even worse fix. Here is your chance to make things right. I will not rub your apology in your face either. This whole ordeal has not been pleasurable by any stretch of the imagination to either dave w. or myself.

What are you going to do with it?

:(

P.S. Now I'm really out of the ring.

Talk about LAME, Teboomer what difference does it make what the emails said. You need pushed, clean out of here !!

SHE got her money from both of us and admits it, read her excuses and how she tries to justify keeping our money.........

posts from Teboomer :

I still have copies of the e-mails and your e-mails ended up getting VERY PUSHY and VERY negative and I can PROVE IT! whoever wants proof can just e-mail me and i will send them a copy of the e-mails!

Jeneric ALTERED the e-mail. I know since I have the original AND the ORIGINAL envelope you sent your money to me in and it is postmarked AFTER 2/11.

Note the above (you sent your money to me in ) ADMITS SHE GOT THE MONEY.

It doesn't take an educated fool to see TEBOOMER has already hung herself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've sent Tina $300 3 times and I ALWAYS received my tapes from her in less than 40 days from wen she recieved my money. I've traded with her 1000 times and bought tapes from her several times with no problem.

Where is the proof the money order was cashed?

What I dont understand the most in all of this is why Jeneric and Dave are being made to look like the bad person here when all they want is the tape that they paid for. Folks this ain't rocket science. I just don't get it. :(

Originally posted by mcjohnc
Where is the proof the money order was cashed?

With all due respect, are you joking?? She admits she got their money. All she needs to do is send their tapes now. Period. End of story. It may have been a lot of tapes and they can't be done overnight but they can be done within a reasonable period and with the proper communication a lot of ruffled feathers can be smoothed over here but from what I see all she offers is a bunch of haughty excuses. Maybe she shouldn't bite off more than she can chew in the future. Tell people straight up "I am backed up right now and I need to inform you that it will be such and such time before I can even think of getting your tapes out". Then it is up to the buyer if they want to wait that long. When you take someone's money you have a commitment to them and obligation to fulfill YOUR OWN PROMISE. You don't just take people's money and then keep them hanging in limbo with nothing but a "Tough luck, I have a life" in return. Newsflash: That just doesn't float. It's BASIC COMMON COURTESY, people! The same basic common courtesy you'd expect extended to you if you were in the buyer's seat. Assuming we're all adults here, I shouldn't even have to break this down like this. You already agreed you got the money so stop the nonsense and get to taping cuz the bottom line is that it's your reputation at stake, not theirs. If you don't come through as promised, both Dave W. and Jeneric will probably take their lumps, learn from the experience and eventually get over it but your name will still be mud. Money comes and money goes but your honor is priceless.

Originally posted by GrapeJelly


With all due respect, are you joking?? She admits she got their money. All she needs to do is send their tapes now. Period. End of story. It may have been a lot of tapes and they can't be done overnight but they can be done within a reasonable period and with the proper communication a lot of ruffles can be smoothed over here but from what I see all she offers is a bunch of haughty excuses. Maybe she shouldn't bite off more than she can chew in the future. Tell people straight up "I am backed up right now and I need to inform you that it will be such and such time before I can even think of getting your tapes out". Then it is up to the buyer if they want to wait that long. When you take someone's money you have a commitment to them and obligation to fulfill YOUR OWN PROMISE. You don't just take people's money and then keep them hanging in limbo with nothing but a "Tough luck, I have a life" in return. Newsflash: That just doesn't float. It's BASIC COMMON COURTESY, people! The same basic common courtesy you'd expect extended to you if you were in the buyer's seat. Assuming we're all adults here, I shouldn't even have to break this down like this. You already agreed you got the money so stop the nonsense and get to taping cuz the bottom line is that it's your reputation at stake, not theirs. If you don't come through as promised, both Dave W. and Jeneric will probably take their lumps, learn from the experience and eventually get over it but your name will still be mud. Money comes and money goes but your honor is priceless.


You rock Grape Jelly :rock:

Turn on your IM but I have to take kid to school first, leaving right now!

Originally posted by Nanny Fine



You rock Grape Jelly :rock:

Turn on your IM but I have to take kid to school first, leaving right now!

Thanks! :) Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. Dave W. and Jeneric end up on trial when they're the ones still waiting for their "paid in full" merchandise? I understand taping takes time but the money was sent in February. Hello! It's almost freaking June! :rolleyes:

P.S. I was on AIM and it said you were sleeeeping :sleep:

Originally posted by GrapeJelly


Thanks! :) Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. Dave W. and Jeneric end up on trial when they're the ones still waiting for their "paid in full" merchandise? I understand taping takes time but the money was sent in February. Hello! It's almost freaking June! :rolleyes:

P.S. I was on AIM and it said you were sleeeeping :sleep:


I just can't understand why Jenn and Dave are being made out to be the bad guys when all they did was keep their end of the deal :( It's sad. :(

I'm not sleeping now ;)

Grape Jelly and Nanny Fine, thank you ever so much for coming to my defense because of the evidence posted here by teboomer, bb&classictv fan, mcjohnc, and Tina Ledbetter. She also uses the following aliases:

Tina Eldridge
J. Eldridge
Paula Wells
cazwill4ever
tay_step
imyurdrvr
Adamzak
lopsville
zanyzoom
and possibly more aliases

Tina Ledbetter's aliases on this board (i.e. Teboomer, bb&classictv fan, and mcjohnc) have all removed their emails from this board earlier today. Here are a few of the emails she uses if you'd like to contact her, though they might not be her own because apparently mcjohnc is her brother/sister:

Tldbtr@webtv.net
mcjohnc@webtv.net
lrsitcom@yahoo.com
lune4clooney@webtv.net
tinal0930@yahoo.com
cazwill4ever@yahoo.com
zanyzoom@yahoo.com
teboomer@hotmail.com
izzijo@webtv.net
steptay@webtv.net
lopsville@webtv.net
adamzak@webtv.net

As of 6/03, this is Tina's website:
http://webspawner.com/users/bradytape/index.html

As of 7/03 - Tina's website has been removed; however, she extensively advertises her stuff on Brady Bunch boards and/or tape trading boards, primarily specializing in Brady Bunch appearances.

Tina has been at this game since early 2002. See the following link to see how she handled an uncanny similar situation on a google board: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=28242b22.0203231156.2396a4a3%40posting.google.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DTina%2BLedbetter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D28242b22.0203231156.2396a4a3%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D5

Teboomer has slandered my name on vid-for-trade as well, and it is only right that she both recant what she said there as well as here. In my heart I have already forgiven her; however, for Tina's own reputation as well as her asthma (triggered by stress) she needs to stop this nonsense and makes things right.
:(

You can run, but you can't hide, especially with
http://www.google.com/
:rolleyes:

Thanks for the Truth !! im happy to know a few here has some COMMON SENSE. Grape Jelly, you done a great job breaking it down, although you said you shouldn't of had to, which is correct. But some folks can't explain plain speech, especially those blinded by their own foolishness !!!

ALL of the E-mail addresses you listed for me are WRONG! I have NEVER been on Hotmail either...

I already sent Dave his 21 tapes.

Originally posted by teboomer
ALL of the E-mail addresses you listed for me are WRONG! I have NEVER been on Hotmail either...

ALL of them are wrong? Not true. I saw Tldbtr@webtv.net with my own eyes before you conveniently disabled the email feature on your profile. I don't know anything about the rest of them but not ALL of them were wrong.

Originally posted by teboomer
ALL of the E-mail addresses you listed for me are WRONG! I have NEVER been on Hotmail either...

Every one of the emails/aliases I listed for Tina Ledbetter were located through Google's search engine and are accurate as of 5/30/2003, though most of these can very easily be either edited or deleted altogether. Checking on the "cache" option on google's main page, oftentimes you can bring up something that was posted from the past, but that is not always the case. I did not list any that I didn't find a url connected with it along with her website, alias, and/or, etc. Anyone can do the same thing by just typing the email (or anything else for that matter) at http://www.google.com/

You may find out even more information than I did, which is a scary thought for anyone who is less than honest with people and/or has something to hide from their past. :rolleyes: Lying just makes the liar more unbelievable with each successive lie. It's just better to own up to it, rather than digging a deeper hole.

Here's the updated list:

Tldbtr@webtv.net as teboomer on this board & tldbtr on eBay
mcjohnc@webtv.net as mcjohnc on this board
lune4clooney@webtv.net as bb&classictv fan on this board & zanyzoom elsewhere
tinal0930@yahoo.com as tinal0930
zanyzoom@yahoo.com as J Eldridge ("Eldridge" is her mother's maiden name)
zanyzoom@yahoo.com as zanyzoom
cazwill4ever@yahoo.com as Paula Wells
teboomer@hotmail.com you can see at: http://www.bradyworld.com/bulletin/collect/pcoll121.htm
lrsitcom@yahoo.com
izzijo@webtv.net
steptay@webtv.net
lopsville@webtv.net
adamzak@webtv.net


I could list all of the urls connected with each and probably even more aliases/emails/etc., if that becomes necessary, but I am very tired of this. Besides, many of these can easily be altered to reflect otherwise. While there is nothing wrong with having numerous aliases and email accounts, I will not allow lie after lie be spoken here in this regard without exposing it with facts if I can help it. As a fellow trader put it, "There's a fox in the hen house."

Oh what tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive.

As of 7/03 - Tina's website has been removed; however, she extensively advertises her stuff on Brady Bunch boards and/or tape trading boards, primarily specializing in Brady Bunch appearances.

Tina has been at this game since early 2002. See the following link to see how she handled an uncanny similar situation on a google board: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=28242b22.0203231156.2396a4a3%40posting.google.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DTina%2BLedbetter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D28242b22.0203231156.2396a4a3%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D5

Here's an updated list of her aliases:

Tina Eldridge
J. Eldridge
Paula Wells
cazwill4ever
tay_step
imyurdrvr
Adamzak
lopsville
zanyzoom
and possibly more aliases

WHEN did you send my 21 tapes TEBOOMER ? When the p.o was closed ?? And where is the correct confirmation # ?? First you said you sent 12, now 21.
If you are a mother, i'd hate to be your child. If you are a wife, i'd hate to be your husband. If you are single ,you will probably remain that way.....
You have no consciene nor common sense. Whether you know it or not, your day is coming. If my arms were long enough to reach WA. as we do here in KY , i'd take a good hickory switch to you and learn you some manners. SPARE THE ROD,SPOIL THE CHILD sounds like your upbringing, hence A SPOILED BRAT !!!

This kind of thing must happen on occasion, so why isn't there a bad trader listing here somewhere? That'd help solve a whole lot of trouble, I'd think, besides warning newbies. The vid-for-trade discussion board put a stop to Tina's accusations after just two posts, which was such a relief after what's gone on here.

:rolleyes:

I sent ALL 21 tapes.. 1 package had 10 tapes, then 2nd package had 2 tapes and the 3rd one had 9 tapes and I have a receipts from the post office to prove I sent them.

Nope...there are more than 2....

send copies of those receipts if your word is true, also send dates they were sent, if you truly sent, then this request won't be any problem to meet. else get off and shut up !!

Originally posted by teboomer
Nope...there are more than 2....

You act like you are PROUD of this situation when you should be ashamed!!!!!!!!!!

I sent ALL 21 tapes.. 1 package had 10 tapes, then 2nd package had 2 tapes and the 3rd one had 9 tapes and I have a receipts from the post office to prove I sent them.

she says she has receipts to prove it ?? teboomer if you got proof ,why are you afraid to show the receipts ????

As of today 7/26 i havent recieved my 150.00 i lost to Tina Ledbetter. Does it do justice to let someone like this get by with their cheating, lying, and stealing from honest people ???? Isn't there someone, somewhere that is willing to take a stand against her and others like her to prevent honest people from losing their hard earned money ????
info below on this person -

Bad Trader Alert!

Tina Ledbetter from Marysville, Washington, and all of her aliases here (Teboomer, bb&classictv fan, and mcjohnc) has been banned from this board.

Here are a few of the emails I've found so far she uses if you'd like to contact her, though they might possibly not be her own because apparently mcjohnc is her brother/sister (?). Various aliases coordinate with the email addresses (i.e. zanyzoom for zanyzoom@yahoo.com):

Tldbtr@webtv.net
mcjohnc@webtv.net
lrsitcom@yahoo.com
lune4clooney@webtv.net
tinal0930@yahoo.com
cazwill4ever@yahoo.com
zanyzoom@yahoo.com
teboomer@hotmail.com
izzijo@webtv.net
steptay@webtv.net
lopsville@webtv.net
adamzak@webtv.net

As of 6/03, this is Tina's website:
http://webspawner.com/users/bradytape/index.html

As of 7/03 - Tina's website has been removed; however, she extensively advertises her stuff on Brady Bunch boards and/or tape trading boards, primarily specializing in Brady Bunch appearances.

Links on this board discussing Tina Ledbetter and links where she uses various email addresses:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69828
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69906
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70449
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70745 http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71186
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57715
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60364
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65582

See the following link to see how she handled an uncannyily similar situation on a google board 3/2002: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=28242b22.0203231156.2396a4a3%40posting.google.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DTina%2BLedbetter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D28242b22.0203231156.2396a4a3%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D5

Here's an updated list of Tina Ledbetter's aliases:

Tina Eldridge
J. Eldridge
Paula Wells
cazwill4ever
tay_step
imyurdrvr
Adamzak
lopsville
zanyzoom
and possibly more aliases

As of 7/2003, Tina Ledbetter has had countless email accounts canceled, shut down at least three websites, shut down a yahoo tape trading group, and tried to shut down a webring all to keep information regarding her off the world wide web.