View Full Version : How Many People Hate The Jonathan Winters Episodes


AtlantaBravesFan29
03-22-2003, 10:42 AM
How many of you absoultely and positively hate the Jonathan Winters episodes??? I do with a purple passion!!! Any others???:mad:

DetectiveGriffin
03-22-2003, 12:09 PM
Whoa. That's some serious hate, man.
I didnt think they were THAT bad.

What was it exactly that got you down .. Jonathan Winters himself or how the show changed.

I was still little when it was on, so it was all fascinating to me. :) Now when I watch. I usually do prefer the early eps where Mork is still integrating.

peace.

AtlantaBravesFan29
03-22-2003, 12:39 PM
Actually both!!! They changed the whole premise of the show. No Mindy's dad,no Mindy's Grandma.I love the 1978-1981 episodes better than I do the last season.

My thoughts: If they wanted to,they could have had a traditional wedding and everything. Make the show the same as it was before actually having Mindy pregnant,and then if the show lasted longer,we could have seen the baby. I have nothing against Jonathan Winters but the whole idea of it,Mork being pregnant with him. I would have rather seen him in another role on the show than that one.

Brian
03-22-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by BravesFan712002
Actually both!!! They changed the whole premise of the show. No Mindy's dad,no Mindy's Grandma.I love the 1978-1981 episodes better than I do the last season.



Actually, both Mindy's dad and Grandma were there during the last season. Conrad Janis was gone during the second season but he was a regular during seasons 1, 3, and 4.

Michael L
03-29-2003, 09:42 AM
I cant stand Johnathen winters he ruined the whole show with that big butt of his his acting was terribell and i hope we never see him on tv ever again no wionder it got canncelled

BundyBoy10
04-27-2003, 12:52 PM
I like Jonathan Winters. Hes an okay comedian. I havent seen many of his episodes though. I am not a HUGE fan of the show, but I do try to watch it once or twice a week. :)

HockeyStar53
09-23-2003, 04:07 PM
I totally disagree with you, I think the best episodes where the 1st season, and later the Mearth episodes if you don't count the end.
It was so funny to see Mork & Mearth, and Jonathan Winters made an outstanding performance as Mearth I think.
Something that I don't like is that Jonathan Winters played Frederik McConnell's brother before Mearth came so they looked exactly the same.

mrbig
01-04-2007, 09:07 AM
I think he is a comic genuis but you can't have 2 genuises on the same show... Robin is the star cuz he stands out and I am sure that alot of the stuff he said on camera was just improv...

ClassicTV4Ever
01-04-2007, 05:38 PM
Wow! Really really old thread but I'll respond anyway.

I think the entire series was watchable. I didn't hate the final season but I didn't love it either. I didn't get to see the final season until Nick at Nite (so I was a pre-teen when I saw those episodes for the first time) and I was SO disappointed that their "baby" turned out to be an old man! I was really hoping that Mindy had gotten pregnant and they had a normal infant. I think it would have more fun seeing them raise an infant with more human traits, and it would be another Earth experience for Mork. But then I guess had they done that viewers probably would have complained that their family unit was too normal.

EmpressDR
01-11-2007, 03:51 AM
I LIKED the Mearth eps, because of how Robin's eyes lit up with hero worship for Jonathan Winters.


Quite honestly, though, I thought Robin was SO much more like Jerry Lewis than Winters.

And I recall an interview Gary Marshall did, where he said his son was watching a movie about a spaceman and said that his dad should have a show about a spaceman.
If you look at Jerry Lewis' film "Visit to a Small Planet" you can SEE how much it inspired Mork and Mindy --they even call the make-out area 'Inspiration Point" like in Happy Days.
I don't think Robin ever gave credit to Jerry for being an inspiration as a comedian. Chevy Chase finally admitted that Jerry was an inspiration to HIM, during a tribute to Jerry, instead of the typical 1970's-comic-ass-wiping-to Ernie Kovaks that so many 1970s comics felt required to give. ( although in earlier interviews, Chase DID over-praise and cite Kovaks as his hero )
Except for Dave Letterman, I just didn't see any resemblance to Kovaks in so many of these comics, who were IMHO just being elitists.
To be compared to Jerry Lewis used to be an insult. Steve Martin had openly praised him, then got insulted for doing so.

:king:
Yeah! Jerry Lewis was THE TOP movie draw at one time, and did many. many more films than so many newer comics will EVER do! WHAT an insult! :barf:
Is there a smilie for "sarcastic?" :rolleyes:

:ladiesman
There was a show titled "The Ladies' Man" based on Jerry's film, that didn't do well. Maybe Marshall thought he had to hide any Jerry connection.

:groucho

TV_on_the_Porch
01-13-2007, 11:10 PM
I enjoyed the final season. I don't have any great difficulty suspending disbelief. :) That said, in following the Nielsens that season, there's no denying the effect that Mearth had on the show's numbers: it started the season relatively strong and maintained a very solid second to Magnum P.I. for several weeks--then dropped like a rock. Thud. Something turned the audience off en mass all-of-a-sudden, and I don't think there's much mystery about what it was.

Chocolate Moose
01-24-2007, 06:09 PM
ME TOO! Not my ball of wax.

Karen64
01-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah, the Jonathan Winters thing ruined it; the show went downhill from there! They should have had a "normal baby" who had some of Mork's powers (but then it would have been blasted for being too much like Bewitched...) The writers were trying to be original, I guess, but it justed sucked!

TVFactFan
01-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Yeah, the Jonathan Winters thing ruined it; the show went downhill from there! They should have had a "normal baby" who had some of Mork's powers (but then it would have been blasted for being too much like Bewitched...) The writers were trying to be original, I guess, but it justed sucked!


Are you going to tell me you watched this show while you were in highschol?-lol

Karen64
01-28-2007, 05:37 PM
Are you going to tell me you watched this show while you were in highschol?-lol

Hey, you're not supposed to remember my age from another sitcom thread! LOL!
I think you're cool, though, no matter what everybody else says!! :happyface

AB
01-28-2007, 09:08 PM
I didn't care for those episodes either, they should have used some kind of
cute little alien for the baby instead. It was just too weird for me.

Mister Show
08-29-2007, 05:59 PM
I was 9 years old when season 4 aired and, at the time, I thought it was great.
I'm looking forward to it's release on DVD so that I can see how it stands up.

catlover79
08-29-2007, 06:02 PM
ME!! Mearth just gave me the creeps. :eek: :lol:

Zoneboy
08-29-2007, 06:55 PM
Jonathan Winters is truly one of the most gifted and funniest comedians of our time but unfortunately, I agree with the others here that did not care for the episodes he was in. The character of Mearth was one of the dumbest ideas ever on tv and I would say the same thing no matter who was cast in the role. I read somewhere years ago that Mr. Winters only agreed to do the part as a favor for Robin Williams because he was a huge fan and Williams idolized him.

Winters was at his comedic best in the hilarious It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World but if you really want to see a true genius at work then I suggest his rare dramatic turn in The Twilight Zone episode A Game of Pool. He and Jack Klugman give 2 of the most riveting performances ever on the show and this episode is regarded by many as one of the series finest.

the truth
10-22-2007, 10:02 PM
If you think season 4 sucked with Mearth, I can honestly say that season 5 would have blown the proverbial pooch had it come off.....

I remember that Pam was on Conan one late night about 15 years ago and they showed an old Prell Shampoo commercial that she did from the early 70's and then they started talking about the show. She said that everyone thinks the show was on for like, 10 years, but in reality it only ran for four seasons. But.....and here's where this is going.....she said that even though it ended at four years with them on the run, that had ABC decided to bring it back, season five would have revolved around Mork becoming a.....drum roll please..........A GAME SHOW HOST! :lol:

Good Lord, thank God that never happened! I can only imagine how a show that changed so much from season three to four would have changed even more had a season ran in 1982-83. She didn't say whether Winters would have been involved, but from that description, you kind of sense that ABC knew they screwed up with season 4 and were plotting an entirely different path for it, IF they would have renewed it.

Just an interesting story from Pam on Conan around 1992 or so.

kristin8004
10-28-2007, 06:02 PM
I love Jonathan Winters. But, Mearth I cannot grasp...

robyrob
10-28-2007, 07:40 PM
the whole Mearth idea was pretty ill-conceived, but there were some great comedic moments between Robin Williams and Jonathan Winters in there (I just wish there had been more and that they had gotten him on the show as a different character altogether)

the sad part about the way ABC managed to wreck the show is that even after they changed something that wasn't broken, the concept of this show had NO RULES - they could have changed it ANY WAY POSSIBLE to fix it, but instead they kept making stupid decisions. Shoot, they could've had Mork actually bring Joanie and Chachi into the 70's and had an interplanetary rock band!

catlover79
10-28-2007, 08:11 PM
the whole Mearth idea was pretty ill-conceived, but there were some great comedic moments between Robin Williams and Jonathan Winters in there (I just wish there had been more and that they had gotten him on the show as a different character altogether)

the sad part about the way ABC managed to wreck the show is that even after they changed something that wasn't broken, the concept of this show had NO RULES - they could have changed it ANY WAY POSSIBLE to fix it, but instead they kept making stupid decisions. Shoot, they could've had Mork actually bring Joanie and Chachi into the 70's and had an interplanetary rock band!
Honey, your ideas are a LOT better than Mearth and Mork being a game show host. If Robin Williams was so keen on having Jonathan Winters on the show, couldn't they have made him Mindy's new boss or a new neighbor or something?? :confused: :mad:

TrekkiesWarlock
02-03-2008, 06:37 PM
i know this is an old thread but you guys know that the orkans age backwards. That being said the show had a 5th season on saturday mornings
when mork and mindy were in high school. Also i world love to have a child that aged backwards. Mearth was adorable. and Johnathon Winters is brillant.