which was the funniest charater

I would say Fred by far is one of the reasons why i like S&S alot better than All in the family Archie was dumb Fred was pretty smart when it came down to it Sandford and Son was by Far Norman Lear's best TV Show Archie call Edith a dingbat when he is just as dumb as she is and Archie's fights with Mike where nowhere near as funny as Fred's Fights Where with Esther
So in Closing im going to say in a funny man contest the Winner and still champion
Fred G Sanford

I would say Fred is better.

another reason why i didnt like All in the family it was to poltical which Sanford and Son barely was if at all

well i never watch all in the family. but i really like sanford and son so thats my pick.

well all in the family also had to much filth which Redd Foxx might have been the filthiest man than caroll oconnor but Fred was nowhere near as filthy as Archie

Their tied for me. As is George Jefferson with the two of them.

Man, that's a tough choice. I like them both, so I say it's tied.

I agree with Jenny in that I like them both. They were equally funny but in their own way. Archie- for the dumb things that came out of his mouth and the malaprops, Fred- the insults and classic fights with Esther and just about anyone else. Plus both men pronounced toilet in a funny manner: Archie-Terlert, Fred-Towlet

Flash were did you get that picture of Fred standing beside that grave looking like a minister

Originally posted by Fred G Cleaver
Flash were did you get that picture of Fred standing beside that grave looking like a minister
yeah, Where did you get that picture?

I would also have to say it is a tie I like them both.


Take Care and God Bless
Aaron

Funniest in my opinion is Fred. Archie sometimes annoys me with his facial expressions. I dont dislike Archie, just think Fred is funnier.

Redd posed for me back in 1977. j/k Actually, I got it out of an old book on classic television series. Thanks for inquiring.

Fred, by far. The few times I watched AITF, Archie got on my nerves.

Hi all,
I think "All In The Family" and "Sanford & Son" had very different audiences. But, some people -- like myself, for instance -- like both. I have loved "Sanford & Son" for years, and still enjoy the reruns almost every night on TVLand, and occasionally on other channels, as well. It was a great show. With all due respect, though, "All In The Family" is legendary, and in a completely different league! Likewise. Fred was funny, but Archie was a one-of-a-kind original character with much more depth.

Fred could give you 900 jokes, and about 850 of them would be variations of the same theme -- what name he had come up with by combining the names of two different items he'd mixed together . . . what the G. stands for, depending on the situation he was in at the time. Meanwhile, Archie would be more likely to give you 900 *different* jokes.

For 6 years, Fred had a son he thought was a dummy, and a sister-in-law he thought was ugly. Whereas, throughout the run of "All In The Family and "Archie Bunker's Place," Archie was surrounded by, and couldn't get away from, all sorts of people he couldn't stand or understand -- a Polish son-in-law, black neighbors, a transvestite friend, a Puerto Rican boarder, a Jewish business partner, a Catholic cook, a gay waiter, etc. Ultimately, he softened and came to accept all of them, right up to the Jewish niece (by marriage) and the black housekeeper he had in the end. These things were all fuel for a much more complex, diverse and (I think) funnier character.

Later,
Art

P.S. Oh , by the way, I DO like them both, too.

Art, I agree with your post one hundred percent. I feel the same way towards both shows, I had a tough time debating on which dvds to get between the two (I ended up buying the season 1/2 dvds for both series). I feel that both shows are funny in their own way but of the two men, Archie is the more unique character.

Archie may be a unique character but he is also downright filthy and annoying. How many times does he need to yell? How many times do we have listen to him talk about racial issues as well as politics? Edith should have divorced him along time ago. I feel sorry that she had to put up with him for most of her adult life.

Now on the another hand . . . . . Fred may be a racist too but he's outragiously funny. The way he says things comes across so funny that not even Archie could top him. He's one of the funniest characters I think.

Anyways . . . I LOVE one show and despise the other. I think it's obvious by now.

LucyFan,
How many times does Archie need to yell? Oh, I don't know -- how many times did Elvis need to sing? How many times did Lucy need to get into some sort of mess?

Archie was enjoyed by so many millions of people for different reasons -- some who actually agreed with the things he said and cheered him, but a lot more who saw the absurdity of him and laughed at him.

But, then again, a character who worked full-time, rode the N.Y. subway twice a day, drove a cab and, eventually, owned a saloon is bound to be more interesting than a character who sat in his living room and watched TV all day.

Later,
Art

P.S. By the way, what do mean by Archie was "downright filthy"?

For the record, Fred was not exactly pure either. Many an occasion where he went off to see a "skin flick," or chased after some lady. My point is that neither character could be mistaken for an altar boy.

Well Flash your right about that but when it comes down to the two shows as a whole all in the family is much nastier heres an exampale Gloria was beinr real bitchy and we find aout its her time of the mouth now hyow sick can you get we never here that stupid stuff on Sanford and Son and it was created by the same man

Fred G,
Somehow, I must've missed that one. I remember Gloria going through a crisis where she felt as though she'd fallen out of love with her husband and was disgusted with her parents and her whole life in general, but it had *nothing* to do her "time of the mouth." (By that, I assume you meant her period.)

Anyway, if I'm correct in that assumption and *that's* what you consider nasty or filthy, perhaps you should leave "big people shows" alone at least until you're older.


Incidentally, it's only natural that you would never see a plot dealing in any way with that subject on "Sanford & Son" where the only regular female character was postmenopausal.

Later,
Art

Very funny art now shut up i just ndont like sick nasty stuff it aint nothing to do with my age so stop being a smart ass

and there was an episode where she was having her period dumb ass

Fred G.
I'm awfully sorry for writing too intelligently, for making too much sense, for starting sentences with capital letters, for using punctuation and for spelling every word correctly. (I reelize that's a different language for yur stoopid maronik as)

But, most of all, I'm sorry for mistaking you for an adult.


Can you ever forgive me for all of that?

Later,
Art


P.S. What does the G stand for -- goo-goo?

Okay, off topic question. This period ep for Gloria, I'm seeing a scene in my mind. Okay, they're all at the table and Gloria gets up to run up the stairs and she turns around to Archie and Edith and says "Don't you understand? I don't want to end up like the two of you?" That isn't the exact quote, but is that the period ep? Nevermind, I think I'm thinking of the same ep Art was thinking of.

PS- This should just be a friendly debate. We shouldn't have to drag name calling into the debate. jmo

Jenny,
Yes, I'm almost positive that's the one I was thinking of. Evidently, there's another episode with a slightly different plotline, which I must have missed.

Watch out -- if you missed it, too, you just might get insulted and called names on a public internet forum.

Later,
Art

Originally posted by Artfiore1


Watch out -- if you missed it, too, you just might get insulted and called names on a public internet forum.

Later,
Art

Was that comment directed towards me too? If it was, well I kind of hope it is or else I'd be over here rambling. I've gotten bashed over here too. I got bashed by 2 people within like a week or two. The funny thing is this person was insulting some other members and I spoke up and he sent me a pm and bashed me through there. Then this other person pm'd me and bashed me, didn't make any posts on the boards, just registered to bash me, I suppose. It's insane in a way.

Edited: I don't want to sound like a goody goody or anything. I mean, you look up some of my posts and I'm sure I've started a mini spat somewhere by accident. Maybe I jumped into the spat to voice my opinion or something. Idk, I've been here for so long and I can't remember everything I've said. I just know I prob. sound like a big dork in every old post. lol But, I just feel that a person can express themselves without dragging the name calling in. I'm not centering this on just this board. I'm just saying I've been to a lot of boards that did this. If someone posted something and someone didn't agree, they'd call them a jackass, something like that.

im not acting like a child art you are your the one that called me a liar and my grammer hey your not the first one to that that like i said your being a smart ass

Ladies & gentlemen . . . and whatever else might be lurking on this message board,

Here is what ClassicSitcoms had to say in their episode guide regarding the "All In The Family" episode which I believe is the one we're talking about here:

"Gloria is bewildered after she falls temporarily out of love with Michael, until she discovers that her mother went through the same thing with Archie.
A gentle episode that defied the series's popular conception as a show where communication took place only above seventy-five decibels. 'You only have twenty-two minutes and thirty seconds to touch your audience,' (Norman) Lear once explained. 'You have to hit them hard.' And yet, many of the show's finest moments take place in an atmosphere of quiet introspection, as in this moving episode that contains nothing more strident than a mother and daughter comparing notes at their kitchen table."


Here is Fred G Cleaver's description:

"....Gloria was beinr real bitchy and we find aout its her time of the mouth now hyow sick can you get we never here that stupid stuff on Sanford and Son and it was created by the same man."


Now, somebody tell me honestly that I was wrong in questioning the maturity of this person!

What probably happened was -- and, mind you, this is only a guess -- after Gloria yelled at her parents, Archie may have made a comment to the effect of, "It must be her time of the month." And, our friend Fred G, in his, her or its infinite ignorance somehow came away from that show with the impression that THAT'S what the episode was about, which of course it wasn't!!


And Jenny, of course I was NOT knocking you!



Later
Art

Hi again, folks,
I think it should also be noted that if it weren't for an innovative, groundbreaking and landmark series like "All In The Family," which dared to talk about things no other comedy show before it had, we'd probably still be laughing at chubby old men like Fred Mertz dressing up like a little boy . . . . .

. . . . . And Fred Sanford would *never* have gotten to complain about "ugly white women" and that Puerto Rican next-door!


Later,
Art

Your wrong about All in the family being an invator unless your talking about filth but it and Sanford and son were both made at the same time just CBS picked up All in the Family a year before NBC picked up Sanford and Son

Fred G.
How much time do you spend on THIS planet??
And, all this time I thought you were just stupid and immature. I didn't know that you were completely insane, also!


I had NO idea that I was underestimating your problems by that much.




Art

For starters the only reason im using this name is because my other name want work im far from stuipd and any body that thinks all in the Familiy is a inervatar even the pepole at TV should have there minds checked and put on major mental drugs

Fred/Beaver,
Okay, I have officially run out of time for dealing with ignorant, infantile, CRAZY nonsense, which belongs in your diaper instead of an internet message board.


Have a nice life. Hope you have fun growing up.


the human race


P.S. I know there are some BIG words up there. Good luck finding somebody to explain them to you.

Originally posted by Artfiore1
Fred/Beaver,
Okay, I have officially run out of time for dealing with ignorant, infantile, CRAZY nonsense, which belongs in your diaper instead of an internet message board.


Have a nice life. Hope you have fun growing up.


the human race


P.S. I know there are some BIG words up there. Good luck finding somebody to explain them to you.
I know. He started a TON of trouble over at the Beaver board, he's back at it again only this time its over here. He was banned once, and I'm sure if he keeps this up next time it'll be for good.

Originally posted by TheFonz

I know. He started a TON of trouble over at the Beaver board, he's back at it again only this time its over here. He was banned once, and I'm sure if he keeps this up next time it'll be for good.




Now Listen Thefonz i didnt start this he did now dont start making flase statementes untill you know all the factsw and looked at all the posts now i thought you were better than that i guess i was wrong

TheFonz,
Thanks for the reply.

For the record, I merely responded to a reply that can only be described as "ridiculous," by speculating on the possible lack of maturity of the person who had posted it. That individual then confirmed that lack of maturity in the very next reply by telling me to "shut up" and by calling me names.

Now, if this constitutes *my* having "started it," please accept my apology.


Later,
Art

art
all i said was all in the family was full of filth
then you said i was to young to watch it so you started it not me

Okay, but your definition of "filth" was a show about a young woman's time of the month -- a show, by the way, which had NOTHING to do with that subject, let alone was not ABOUT that subject..

I said it before, I'll say it again -- perhaps you should leave "big people shows" alone at least until you're older.




Bye

Originally posted by Artfiore1
Okay, but your definition of "filth" was a show about a young woman's time of the month -- a show, by the way, which had NOTHING to do with that subject, let alone was not ABOUT that subject..

I said it before, I'll say it again -- perhaps you should leave "big people shows" alone at least until you're older.




Bye

i think i get what your saying.and if he thought it was SO bad maybe he shouldn't of mentioned the subject at all.but there is no reason to make this subject a fight why don't you just drop it.don't mean to sound rude it's just that there is no reason to fight anymore.

oh, and i'm not taking sides just saying that you should drop it and not make a big deal. :)

TheFonzIsCool,,

That's fine with me.






Later,
Art