Anyone here catch ET 2night??? dawn wells FINALLY admits she never offered the Movie 2 Tina! it's about time!! at least now Tina has some back up after being misquoted and somewhat trashed in this movie!

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

I have talked to someone who knows Dawn Wells, and other people that worked with Tina Louise, and this was all the GOOD stuff abotu Tina. They didn't even BEGIN to portray how bad Tina could be about some stuff.

Well think about this, Dawn Wells now admits she was lying about mentioning the Movie to Tina, so how can you believe a movie SHE did, when she just turned around and lied about the Tina thing. Can u really trust her??? and come on! that movie made her look like a total angel! and you know that can't be true. they totally misquoted Tina in that movie as well, which is a HUGE reason it made her look bad.

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

I can believe it, because I have heard testimonials from other stars to support that fact. I once read a story on the official website of the replacement of Tina in the TV movies, and the first thing Jim Backus said to her was something like "So, you're the new Ginger? I hope you're not as mean as the last one." So, given word from Dawn, and quotes from other stars, plus stuff that others have said about it, I CAN believe Dawn. I'm sorry, if you want to worship Tina as a god or something, you may, but don't try to rub off those misplaced feelings on others.

agreed.... even if Dawn would of offered Tina to be in the movie, Tina prolly wouldnt of accepted......

Dawn never lied about showing the script to Tina, she didn't even hide the fact that she didn't. She said that Tina has never chosen to participate, so that's probably why they just didn't bother w/ her this time. And when Tina got her say on Howard Stern (???) she never said that they misquoted her, she also didn't deny anything that they said she did. So it didn't put her in the most likable light, it's her own fault.

Didn't they also say something about how Tina didn't like the way the movie portrayed her *before* it aired? And then later in the segment she said something about how she hadn't seen the script. So she kinda assumed they'd portray her badly (unless she got to see the movie ahead of time, which I don't know).
Personally, I don't think they portrayed her that badly at all. It coulda been worse.

~Courtney

yes she did actually. she said that she sent a copy of the script to Tina in advance on one of the ET episodes this past week. and on the one last night, she said that she did not.


and by the way, you dont have to hear it from anyone to tell when she is misquoted. read some interviews with her, and then listen to people quoting her, they r all off. In the restaurant part of the Movie, They had Tina saying things like "No i'm Tina, and no im from new york" in a really snobby tone of voice. Tina dmits she said that before, but never in that tone of voice.

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

And if I were her, I would have said that too, even if I were lying. If you are a person that used to be in show business or are in show business, younever admit to being anything BUT nice, and she's NEVER going to let people know that, despite what SHE says, she really was as bad as she is portrayed.

Dawn didn't direct it, it's the actor and the director's call on how you read your lines. Reading a line in a certain tone is NOT misquoting! For the last time, Tina NEVER said she was misquoted, so will you stop defending her for things she's not even complaining about!

she said that, i know someone who is good friends with her.

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

That movie was just showing us how stuck up Tina was during those years of GI! If anyone should get upset it should be the cast over Tina for thinking she could run the show! Thinking shes the star, what a bunch of crap! How dare she get upset over that movie, it's her fault she's a hate full little witch! Honestly can't some people move on?

u CAN'T be serious can u! LMAO! she is the ONLY ONE who actually did MOVE ON! she went on with her career! while the rest stick to working on a show from the 1960's!come on! they r the ones who need to move on! that show was like what 30 years ago! get a life! Tina Lousie actually made more films and tv appearances and STILL is! so you should think about just WHO needs to be "moving on"


------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

Ok, Tinasmylife, I'm just going to say this one more time so please listen. The fact that she's made films since does not mean that her career has been all that successful. I don't think any of them have gone all that far from GI. The members with the most impressive filmography since GI are Jim Backus and Russell Johnson. Alan Hale and Natalie Schafer also had great careers, but they slowed after GI. I don't think Tina's great collection of appearances in B and C films qualifies to say that her career has been all that more successful than Dawn's or anyone else's!

And i'll tell you! i am not talking about the quality of tina's films, i am talking about her amount of work, especially after the show.

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

Can we please stop all this fighting...... Face it..... In the gilligans island movie.... They potrayed Tina how she was....... They simply put what happened with her during the show into the movie...

Anyone can take a bunch of crappy projects, and I am sure that if Dawn Wells wanted to do some crappy B-movies, she could have had roles WRITTEN for her. Former famous sitcom stars are the type of things that B-movie producers and directors love if they can find the right role, it gives them a little name recognition.

Tina was just a bitter woman who tried to make it look like she moved on, but, in truth, she was just a jerk.

Not to start a riot here or anything (again I'm laughing at how it went this time from a discussion on Entertainment Tonight to completely about Tina and her movie career or lack thereof) but can I ask a question?

Does it really make it better if a person does hundreds of movies or things if they aren't worth the film it's printed on? When did quantity take over quality?

Ignore this post if you like, I was just thinking out loud I guess.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/dizzy.gif
**Gracie**

Fine, I've made my point, I won't mention again.

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

First of all, Producer Sherwood Schwartz owns the rights to "Gilligan's Island", not Dawn Wells. Therefore, it was not Dawn's responsibility (nor does she have the authority) to offer Tina Louise a part in any "Gilligan's Island" project. For some reason, there are a number of people posting items on the Gilligan's Island message board attempting to slander or discredit Dawn Wells. I don't understand this. From everything I've read and seen, Dawn Wells is a genuinely decent, honest, and caring person. My guess is that some of these "Tina" fans have built up a resentment against her because of the legendary "Ginger versus Mary Ann" polls over the years in which men prefer Mary Ann by about a 10 to 1 margin. I think a "Tina Louise versus Dawn Wells" poll would yield the same results.

Prolly, I know i would vote for mary ann :-)

I don't want to seem like I'm suporting Tinasmylife, just clearing up something. Dawn Wells WAS the Executive Producer of the recent "Surviving Gilligan's Island: The Longest Three-Hour Tour Ever", and Tinasmylife fan was talking about that project, in which Dawn, as EP, was more than likely key in the selection of actors and actresses.

PPatters: I must admit I did not know that Dawn Wells was the Executive Producer for the recent TV movie. Thanks for clarifying that point for me (and I am sincere when I say that).

Be that as it may, I don't think Tina Louise would have participated in the movie had Dawn Wells approached her about this. Tina has spent the last 30 years distancing herself from any association with the show (not to mention all of the bad blood that has existed between her and the other cast members). Why would Tina suddenly have a change of heart after all these years?

Despite all of that though, Dawn wasn't responsible for casting, nor did she write the script. Please remember that.

someone should post the official credits. LOL

Almost ALL executive producers are VERY actively involved in casting the main characters and in approving the scripts. Meaning: If Dawn wanted Tina, she could have gotten them to make a script with Tina in it and could have ATTEMPTED (though probably it wouldn't have worked) to get Tina. EP's have a LOT of POWER, especially in television and television movies.

That is EXACALLY my point! I mean sure! she wouldn't have done the film, BUT it's the fact that they never asked her and then went to the public saying the did offer her a script but she turned them down.

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

Umm.. NO. If they were going to offer her a part, they would have to make a script to include her. If they think she's going to say no, they are not going to PAY WRITERS money to make a script they're going to have to DUMP! That would be dumb, and if you think that they should waste money just for Tina Louise to get some sort of odd satisfaction from knowing she got to TURN THEM DOWN, then that's just MEAN.

What's rude and MEAN is what Dawn wells and "company" did to Tina in this movie! I mean How do you know if it is true or not! how do I know! and you wouldn't know unless you were one of them. anyhow you shouldn't believe half the crap thats on TV anymore! Dawn Wells says this is no movie about rumors and gossip, I don't think she knows the difinitions! so why believe dawn wells! o yea! i forgot! shes the little angel! =P =P =P =P


------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

WILL YOU GUYS DROP IT ALREADY? This is getting so boring. Tina was portrayed badly, Tina did it to herself, it was a rumor, it was fact, they misquoted her, she's a bitch. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE WITH THIS SO CAN WE PLEASE ALL JUST FORGET IT??????

I said earlier I would drop it, and then u all started it again! is there anyway to delete this whole damn topic!???


------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

Can I add my 2 cents? Honestly I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if it is true about Dawn not offering the script to Tina- I can see why! Now tell me if Tina was allowed to work on the movie- would she let the others portray her as a bitch in the movie? Dawn chose to leave Tina out so they could tell about how "bitchy" Tina was. I hope that made sense and this is just my opinion...

------------------
Hottest Men alive:
Dale Midkiff
Anthony Starke
Tim McGraw
Jonathan Crombie

Lumpy: Did you go out for anything, Dud?

Dudley: Well, I went out for football, but I got my finger stepped on, so my mother made me quit.

Eddie: Well listen-- I went out for basketball and I got my hair pulled, and my mother made ME quit.

Dudley: It's not that I was afraid of getting hurt or anything; it's just that-- well, it's kind o' hard to play the flute with a busted finger.

[Eddie and Lumpy suppress laughter]

Dale Midkiff is my man! :)

Class of 2002! :)

Of course, I've already proved Tinasmylife wrong on several subjects. Anyways, Tinasmylife, you said that we wouldn't know unless we were there, well you claimed to know as a FACT that it portrayed her badly, however you now say you can only know if you were there? And let's say you CAN only know if you were there, do you think that three of the original cast members would have participated if it was being portrayed as the truth if it was actually all exaggerated? Hmmm..

what r u people blind!LMAO u all say to stop posting! and when I do u all start with this crap again!!

------------------
Tina Leehone
TinaLouise4ever!

Originally posted by JWillhight:
someone should post the official credits. LOL

You asked for it http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


Full Cast and Crew for
Surviving Gilligan's Island: The Incredibly True Story of the Longest Three Hour Tour in History (2001) (TV)

Directed by
Paul A. Kaufman

Writing credits
Duane Poole

Cast (in credits order)
Dawn Wells .... Herself/Herself (archive footage)
Bob Denver .... Himself/Himself (archive footage)
Russell Johnson (I) .... Himself/Himself (archive footage)
Samantha Harris (I) .... Dawn Wells/Mary Ann
Michael Wiseman .... Russell Johnson
Steve Vinovich .... Jim Backus
Aaron Lustig .... Sherwood Schwartz
Jon Wellner .... Bob Denver/Gilligan
Eric Allan Kramer .... Alan Hale Jr./Skipper
Kristen Dalton .... Tina Louise/Ginger
Dwayne Hickman .... Network Executive #1
Christopher Neiman .... Network Executive #2
Gloria Grant (I) .... Henny Backus
Timilee Romolini .... Sophia, The Italian Hooker
Erica Vittina Phillips .... Countergirl
Sherwood Schwartz .... Himself/Himself (archive footage)
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Jim Backus .... Himself (archive footage)
Rodger Bingham .... Navy Admiral (uncredited)
Ray Buktenica .... Director
Traci L. Crouch .... 70's Girl
Alan Hale Jr. .... Himself (archive footage)
Paul A. Kaufman .... Airplane Passenger
Tina Louise .... Herself (archive footage)
E.J. Peaker .... Natalie Schafer
Natalie Schafer .... Herself (archive footage)
Kim Thomas (II) .... Friend #1
Jerry Van Dyke .... Himself
Steven Yell .... Another Passenger

Produced by
Paul A. Kaufman (executive producer)
Anthony Santa Croce (producer)
Dawn Wells (co-executive producer)

Cinematography by
Kenneth D. Zunder

Film Editing by
Sean K. Lambert

Production Design by
Gary T. New

Costume Design by
Greg LaVoi

Makeup Department
Tarra D. Day .... key makeup artist
Felicia Linsky .... assistant makeup artist
Polly Lucke .... assistant hair stylist
Robin McWilliams .... key hair stylist
Kristina Vogel .... assistant makeup artist
Brent Winholt .... assistant hair stylist

Production Management
Kimberly A. Dickens .... production supervisor

Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
Timothy Grant Engle .... second assistant director
Richard T. Schor .... first assistant director

Sound Department
Andrew Adams (I) .... boom operator (as Andy Adams)
Kamal Humphrey .... sound
Ken Segal .... sound mixer

Other crew
Llyswen Vaughan .... music supervisor
Jay Wylie .... driver
Joseph Wylie .... driver (as Jay Wylie)
Dianne Young .... casting associate


Pulled from the imdb if you don't believe me-it's on this page here http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0286181


**Gracie**

Always glad to be of service.

whoa whoa- Isn't Dwayne Hickman, Dobie Gillis?

------------------
Hottest Men alive:
Dale Midkiff
Anthony Starke
Tim McGraw
Jonathan Crombie

Lumpy: Did you go out for anything, Dud?

Dudley: Well, I went out for football, but I got my finger stepped on, so my mother made me quit.

Eddie: Well listen-- I went out for basketball and I got my hair pulled, and my mother made ME quit.

Dudley: It's not that I was afraid of getting hurt or anything; it's just that-- well, it's kind o' hard to play the flute with a busted finger.

[Eddie and Lumpy suppress laughter]

Dale Midkiff is my man! :)

Class of 2002! :)

Yes he is! If you watch it, he has a line "This could be another hit like Dobie Gillis!" He's probably still good friends with Bob Denver, Maynard G. Crebbs.

Moofomoo: Great Job! (and great "User Name"!)

so Sherwood didnt direct it or anything? Thats amazing......

------------------
World Sitcom Awards! Vote Now! (http://jwillhight.topcities.com/sitcomawards.html)

I find it amazing that Sherwood Schwartz is not mentioned anywhere in the credits for "Surviving Gilligan's Island"! Do you suppose that Dawn was afraid that he might want to include some "backstage stuff" about her and the rest of the cast besides Tina Louise. Maybe that is why the movies shows Dawn and the rest as goody goodies and never did anything wrong. Imagine that.

Originally posted by Jimbo:
Moofomoo: Great Job! (and great "User Name"!)

Thanks Jimbo...I was a little surprised no one else just posted the whole thing..lol.

oh, and moofomoo is just a nickname for the whole thing my friend calls me... moofoomooloaf. *dies laughing* you don't wanna know. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

**Gracie**

cwjensen1st: I don't think that Dawn Wells was afraid that Sherwood Schwartz would reveal any "backstage stuff" about her, or the other cast members. The reason I say that is because, over the years, I've seen a number of these "behind the scenes" programs about Gilligan's Island (such as on "The E! True Hollywood Story", etc.). They almost always include interviews with Sherwood Schwartz. That being the case, he's had plenty of opportunities before this to reveal any less than favorable information that he knows about the cast, and he hasn't done so. The only person he's said anything negative about is Tina Louise. I personally don't have any strong opinion about Tina Louise one way or the other, but it's obvious that there's been a long history of bad feelings between her and others associated with the show.

I remind everyone that Sherwood even made one, maybe two, appearances. (The Willy Gilligan segment was one, I think there may have been another). So, I doubt Sherwood opposed anything in there that much, because he did participate.

Originally posted by moofomoo:
Not to start a riot here or anything (again I'm laughing at how it went this time from a discussion on Entertainment Tonight to completely about Tina and her movie career or lack thereof) but can I ask a question?

Does it really make it better if a person does hundreds of movies or things if they aren't worth the film it's printed on? When did quantity take over quality?

Ignore this post if you like, I was just thinking out loud I guess.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/dizzy.gif
**Gracie**Execellent Gracie!

Also you deserve a http://www.plaudersmilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif for displaying the www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) site for folks to look up things about this show.


I agree that most things are against Tine Louise, and that is no doubt for a reason: She brought it on herself.

No one would attract so much negative attention if it were not warranted in some way or another. Which is too bad, as I grew up to this show as a kid, and as much as I like to think things were much better in earlier times, it just goes to show that folks just can't seem to get along at times.

http://www.plaudersmilies.de/rough/sword2.gif

Great thread folks, great info, everything. Made for some good reading. http://www.plaudersmilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif

Gracie, did I ever tell you how cute you are by trying to keep the peace, and just stick to the facts ?
http://www.plaudersmilies.de/malelovies.gif

Originally posted by Fresno Bob:
http://www.plaudersmilies.de/rough/sword2.gif

Great thread folks, great info, everything. Made for some good reading. http://www.plaudersmilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif

Gracie, did I ever tell you how cute you are by trying to keep the peace, and just stick to the facts ? http://www.plaudersmilies.de/malelovies.gif

Cute little smileys there, Bob. Yeah, I try to stay cute, but not by keeping the peace...lol. I prefer peace to http://www.plaudersmilies.de/rough/sword2.gif anyday.

Im glad someone agrees with me this was a good post thread to follow. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

**Gracie**

I know this is off the subject but how did you get those smiles!?

Originally posted by JOblairJOblair:
I know this is off the subject but how did you get those smiles!?

They're from another site, I noticed as I was quoting his post. He used the UBB Code and inserted them as images. Good thing they were small enough!

**Gracie**

(Quote his post and you'll see the source of the little smileys)

Thanks!