These are the spinoffs that didn't need to be showed

1.Gloria
2.Sanford Arms
3.Grady
4.Checking In
5.Joanie Loves Chachi


If you think about, the mainb characters in all of these shows had minor roles on their parent show. None of these characters were secondary which is why the spinoffs didn't last.

Grady was not a secondary character
Gloria was no where near a secondary character
joanie and chachi were not secondary characters
Florence was not a secondary. character

You cannot take a character who has a minor role on a Hit Show and give them their own show. It just doesn't work. That's like taking Larry off Three's Comany, Elvin and Sondra off the cosby show, and Lenny off lavere and Shirley.

Gloria would have only worked if Mike were still in it. The Sanford Arms definitely had no business being created because it didn't have Lamond or Fred. Grady was not a poular enough character IMO so he shouldn't have had his own series. I think Checking In and Joanie Loves Chachi would have worked but only if they were continuation series.

Originally posted by BJL
Gloria would have only worked if Mike were still in it. The Sanford Arms definitely had no business being created because it didn't have Lamond or Fred. Grady was not a poular enough character IMO so he shouldn't have had his own series. I think Checking In and Joanie Loves Chachi would have worked but only if they were continuation series.

Most spinoffs that were successful had two characters from the parent show starting their own series. For example, Louise and George Jefferson, Florida and Henry(James)Evans, Carl and Harriet Winslow, Laverne and Shirley.

I think the only successful spinoff that had only one character from the Parent show was Maude. It may be more i'm not sure.

Originally posted by SOLOMON


Most spinoffs that were successful had two characters from the parent show starting their own series. For example, Louise and George Jefferson, Florida and Henry(James)Evans, Carl and Harriet Winslow, Laverne and Shirley.

I think the only successful spinoff that had only one character from the Parent show was Maude. It may be more i'm not sure.
Don't forget about Frasier. Lou Grant had a 5-year run too.

I think the real reason why these spinoffs failed is because they were poorly executed and not well thought out as their parent shows.

Originally posted by Janice

Don't forget about Frasier. Lou Grant had a 5-year run too.


Did Fraiser have a big role on Cheers?

GRADY came about after Redd Foxx walked out on SANFORD AND SON for a couple of months. To compensate, the producers had Grady move in with Lamont until Fred returned. The producers and network were impressed with Whitman Mayo. The ratings for the series held up and fan response was positive -- Mayo received a lot more fan mail during this period. So it convinced the network to give Mayo his own shot at a series and GRADY was born. Unfortunately, the format of GRADY wasn't very interesting, and he returned to SANFORD the following year.

Originally posted by Doug
GRADY came about after Redd Foxx walked out on SANFORD AND SON for a couple of months. To compensate, the producers had Grady move in with Lamont until Fred returned. The producers and network were impressed with Whitman Mayo. The ratings for the series held up and fan response was positive -- Mayo received a lot more fan mail during this period. So it convinced the network to give Mayo his own shot at a series and GRADY was born. Unfortunately, the format of GRADY wasn't very interesting, and he returned to SANFORD the following year.


But it was a entire new cast that surrounded him. Which is why it didn't work.

Originally posted by SOLOMON

Did Fraiser have a big role on Cheers?
He had a decent size role in an ensemble cast.

Originally posted by Janice

He had a decent size role in an ensemble cast.


Well that's why it worked.

Originally posted by SOLOMON


Well that's why it worked.
Solomon, you talk in circles. What's your point? You asked for an example of one person doing a spinoff as opposed to two characters, and I gave you two examples, and now I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You always have to have the last word and make it seem like you proved someone wrong. :crazy:

Originally posted by Janice

Solomon, you talk in circles. What's your point? You asked for an example of one person doing a spinoff as opposed to two characters, and I gave you two examples, and now I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You always have to have the last word and make it seem like you proved someone wrong. :crazy:

That statement i made wasn't posted to prove you wrong, i said it worked with Fraiser and Lou grant because their roles were larger on the parent show. That was a statement i made a couple of posts ago. Now, Grady, Florence, and Gloria roles were not important enough for viewers to watch a entirely seperate show with just those characters and new cast members. UNDERSTAND NOW?

Rhoda lasted a while..

Phyllis did OK.

Enos "BOMBED"

"Tortellis" Bombed

"Ropers" did ok..I thought that show was better.

"Fish" lasted a year but was syndicated

Different World lasted a while..I hated that show..And I think the main character that it focused on left after one season..I wonder why..?

Facts of Life took a character not used significantly from Diffrent Strokes and ran with it...Again..I hated both shows but I can't argue with the success..

Lou Grant impressed me because it took a live audience comical character and put him in a hour long "drama" type show.

Originally posted by SOLOMON


That statement i made wasn't posted to prove you wrong, i said it worked with Fraiser and Lou grant because their roles were larger on the parent show. That was a statement i made a couple of posts ago. Now, Grady, Florence, and Gloria roles were not important enough for viewers to watch a entirely seperate show with just those characters and new cast members. UNDERSTAND NOW?

You really don't make any sense Solomon because you're saying that certain sitcoms didn't work because the characters weren't important enough. Maude succeeded and she didn't have an important role on All in the Family. Gloria had a big role on that show and her spinoff failed. Janice is right, you are talking in circles so you can make yourself appear right.

A Different World

Threes A Crowd....it woodve been better with Janet

Originally posted by Brian Damage


You really don't make any sense Solomon because you're saying that certain sitcoms didn't work because the characters weren't important enough. Maude succeeded and she didn't have an important role on All in the Family. Gloria had a big role on that show and her spinoff failed. Janice is right, you are talking in circles so you can make yourself appear right.


The thing that made Maude popular was the fact that she argued and traded insults with the main character Archie Bunker. And viewers were entertained by the Maude character.

Solomon, all I know is that this entire thread reads like the, Who's on First?, routine. You confuse people so much with your convoluted logic, that they throw in the towel and let you have the last word out of sheer exhaustion.

You stated that, "Most spinoffs that were successful had two characters from the parent show starting their own series. For example, Louise and George Jefferson, Florida and Henry(James)Evans, Carl and Harriet Winslow, Laverne and Shirley.
I think the only successful spinoff that had only one character from the Parent show was Maude. It may be more i'm not sure."

I replied that Frasier and Lou Grant were successful.
Then you tossed out something else.
I'm confused even typing this so I give up. Typical you. :crazy:

Originally posted by SOLOMON
The thing that made Maude popular was the fact that she argued and traded insults with the main character Archie Bunker. And viewers were entertained by the Maude character.

Thatmay be true, but Maude was still not an important character on All in the Family. Besides, once she had her own show, her interaction with Archie would diminish. Yet, it still was successful.

SOLOMON, I was wondered why your opinions always differed from everyone else's and even with facts you still disagree? This isn't a smart alec question, I just wonder.

Originally posted by ThomasE
SOLOMON, I was wondered why your opinions always differed from everyone else's and even with facts you still disagree? This isn't a smart alec question, I just wonder.

I agreed with Janice, which is why i was confused when she responded the way she did. She told me Lou Grant from Mary Tyler Moore and Fraiser from Cheers had successful spinoffs and they were just one characters and I agreed because I also stated that if a character played a important on the parent show then it probably would work. Characters like Grady, Gloria, and Florence were not important enough on their parent shows for their spinoffs to be a hit.

Florence was a very important character on the Jeffersons. So was Gloria on AITF. The spinoffs just weren't done right.