I'm watching The History Channel and The Brink's Robbery is being profiled.

The question is, What's the most famous crime that took place in your city or state?

In Boston, as mentioned, there was the Brink's Robbery in 1950. This was later made into a movie starring Peter Falk.

There's the infamous Boston Strangler in the 1960s.
This was made into a movie starring Tony Curtis.

well I've lived in diff states such as California so that 1 would be the Rodney King riots, Dallas Texas, that would be the James Byrd dragging, Oklahoma would be the bombing of the Murrow building and Detroit and Philadelphia there are diffeerent crimes so ???

In Chicago, probably the John Wayne Gacey murders in the 70's or the Brown's Chicken massacre in the early 90's.

Originally posted by Original Prankster
In Chicago, probably the John Wayne Gacey murders in the 70's or the Brown's Chicken massacre in the early 90's.
Also, Richard Speck killed the eight student nurses in Chicago in 1966.

Originally posted by Janice

Also, Richard Speck killed the eight student nurses in Chicago in 1966.

Oh yea, I forgot that one. My memory is already turning bad. How sad.

The 2 17 year old boys killing 2 professors up in northern NH a year or 2 ago. Thats all I can remember. Ill do a search..

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
The 2 17 year old boys killing 2 professors up in northern NH a year or 2 ago. Thats all I can remember. Ill do a search..
That was awful.
Then's there Pamela Smart, the schoolteacher who had an affair with her student and had him kill her husband. Nicole Kidman made a movie based on that murder...can't think of the name of it.

Umm...a few months ago, a little ways away from me, there was a pretty big crime. This 15 year old girl had had a baby with like...a 32 year old guy. Well, his like ex-girlfriend who was like 25 was jealous and the guy was in jail for some reason or another, not for the kid, something else. So the 25 year old chick went to the girls house in the middle of the day. The girl's little brother and mother were out there along with her. And her mom's telling her to go inside fast, and the 25 crazy chick goes and shoots the 15 year old in the back, and she ya kno...falls and drops the baby. And THEN the chick went up and shot the baby in the face. Yea...and then made a break for it in her van, but some neighbor started chasing after it, despite the fact that the crazy chick was shooting at him, got the license # and they captured the chick. But it was all really sad. The 15 year old, and her baby died...and the 15 year old was gonna go back to skool and everything. Yea, I kno her sister...kinda.


O, and the sniper thing. That happened in MD.

The last major crime in Holdrege came in August of 1989. We had a shootout. There were two escape convicts with there girl friends (from Colorado),the girl friends stole a helicopter to get there boy friends out of jail and then they stole a ryder truck and ended up in Holdrege they drove around shooting at people, houses,businesses and the police, I was lucky because I was outside at the time and they came within 1 block of me. the had a stand off on East Ave. and it ended when one of the bad guys shot his own finger,that was Holdrege's last crime it made natianl news and they had a big deal about it on Good Morning America, I also still have old news papers of this event.

As far as the state goes this fall in Norfolk Nebraska three guys robbed a bank and shot and killed 5 people,it was the woest bank robbery in the states history.

In the city I live (Fort Worth, TX) last year there was a woman who was driving home drunk late one night and ran into a homeless guy. He was lodged in the windshield but she drove on home and left him there (the car was in the garage, of course) even after he died.

There was a 16 year-old girl from Warren, MA who was abducted back in June 2000. They've never found her or her abducter.

There's also Whitey Bulger.

Originally posted by Janice

That was awful.
Then's there Pamela Smart, the schoolteacher who had an affair with her student and had him kill her husband. Nicole Kidman made a movie based on that murder...can't think of the name of it.

Did that movie happen to be "To Die For"?

Originally posted by WingsFan

There's also Whitey Bulger.
Whitey Bulger. Good one WingsFan!

here is another horrible crime that happend in Nebraska and it was the murders by Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate. I remember in my freshman history class we watched a video of a news deal on that and my history teaher was a little boy when that happened and he lived in the town that most of that happned in, (Lincoln) and I remember him saying that they shut school down and poeple would be afraid to go outside they locked there doors and hide for a couple of days. Here is the story about this whole thing.

Charles Starkweather commenced his reign of terror across the Nebraska farm lands on December 1, 1957 when he murdered Lincoln gas station attendant, Robert Colvert. After robbing the gas station, Starkweather kidnapped Colvert and drove him to a secluded spot where he executed him with several shots to the head.

Almost two months later, Starkweather, while waiting for his girlfriend, 14 year old Caril Ann Fugate to return home, murdered her mother and stepfather with a rifle. When Caril returned home, he strangled Caril's two year old sister in her bed, after which he went to the kitchen where he prepared sandwiches for lunch.

Starkweather hid the bodies at various places outside the house. The two stayed in the house for two more days turning people away under the pretense that everyone was ill.

Caril's grandmother became suspicious and called the police. When they arrived Charles and Caril had already left. The police found the bodies and began the search for the killers.

Before their capture Charles Starkweather would kill seven more people. The first was a high school couple who stopped to help Starkweather. He had driven the car onto a muddy road, getting it stuck. He shot the boy and attempted unsuccessfully to rape the girl. In anger he shot and killed her too.

Shortly thereafter, Starkweather shot and killed a friend, August Meyer, to obtain more guns and ammunition.

Starkweather and Fugate returned to Lincoln where they entered the home of C. Laur Ward, a wealthy steel executive. Starkweather forced Mrs. Ward and her housekeeper upstairs where they were tied up on a bed and then stabbed to death. Ward returned home and was shot and killed by Starkweather as he entered the house.

Starkweather and Fugate took Ward's car and drove to Wyoming. Twelve miles outside of Douglas they found Merle Collison taking a nap in his car alongside the road. Starkweather shot the sleeping Collison nine times in the head.

Thinking someone needed help an oil worker, Joe Sprinkle, stopped. Starkweather attempted to kill him, but Sprinkle wrestled him for the gun. A deputy happened by and Fugate ran to him yelling, "It's Starkweather, he's going to kill me."

Starkweather bragged about the killings and claimed he did them all in defense of Caril Ann.

Starkweather was executed by electric chair on June 25, 1959. He was 19 years old. Fugate was sentenced to life in prison, but was paroled in 1977.

Originally posted by BJL
Did that movie happen to be "To Die For"?
That's it. Thanks. It was loosely based on the Pamela Smart story. They changed the names and her profession. She wasn't a schoolteacher but a newscaster or something like that.

Originally posted by Janice

Whitey Bulger. Good one WingsFan!

Oh, and how could I forget the Catholic church sex scandal and Cardinal Law's resignation?

Also, there was that guy a few years ago whose wife disappeared and he was on TV saying how much he missed his wife and wanted her home. Turned out, he knew where his wife was the whole time: decomposing in their basement or something.

I think the most famous crime in San Diego, California is when David Westerfield murdered 7 year old Danielle Van Dam last year. The guy was a sick bastard and I lived close to this person.

Originally posted by JoPol_wannabe
here is another horrible crime that happend in Nebraska and it was the murders by Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate.
That's a very famous one. I believe that was made into a movie as well.

A sidenote--I'm wondering where the crimes took place that inspired Truman Capote's book, In Cold Blood.

Gosh theres been alot in good ole Oregon THE most recent though is the Kidnapping and then about a Year later (last year) find the Bodies of Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis in thier Nieghbors back yard that whole thing just UGH because they ALREADY questioned the guy let him go and then later on get "evidence" that said HE DID IT so they dug up his backyard (eventhough they searched the whole house already) and low and behold THERE WHERE THE GIRLS lets just say Oregons Judicial system REALLY SCREWED UP
oh oh oh Not to mention BOTH girls complained to thier guidance counselours that they were being ABUSED by the Guy!!!

The only thing I can think of for Kokomo is there has been a woman missing for over ten years. There's always been talk that her husband put her through a wood chipper, but who knows if that's B.S. or not.
Seems like we're more famous for lame stuff, like that weird humming noise and GIANT MUTANT CATTLE. Crime is rampant just like anywhere else, but we do have a lot of interesting ACCIDENTS.

I only mention this because it's terribley interesting, I think, and COULD HAVE BEEN a crime (but it wasn't- just an accident)

Sometime is the 50's (maybe even late 40s), I think, the was a big ice show on halloween night in Indianapolis, I think. Anyway, one of the propane tanks blew (used to make the popcorn back then) and caused the bleachers where people were at to explode. I guess it was pretty massive and they ended up using the ice as a temporary morgue. Can you imagine! Take your kids to a show and .....

I read this in the indianapolis star when I was 16, on halloween they did this big, "remember when" article about it. I had never heard of it before, but it really freaked me out. I told my mom about it and she said some little girls she went to school with were there and died.I wish I would have saved the article, because i cant really remember all the details but it was interesting and scary.


All my other stories involve tornadoes.

Later ~~~~~

I dunno... there aren't many 'famous' crimes in Springfield. A recent and well known one though, is a high school kid stabbed his counslor to death. He was caught.

Another one is a few towns up from me...very well known....Molly Bish... she disappeared in June (maybe July?) 2000 and was never seen/heard from again. That one is so sad :crying:

State- I live in NY, there's a murder everyday

City- The town I live in? A high school senior ran over Bill Clinton's dog last year....that's about it when it comes to murders really and even then you can't blame her since the stupid dog just ran out into the middle of the street....

Well for state, there are a lot of pretty bad stuff from philly

lol, my town isnt much for crime...not much happens here that gets nat' publicity

the worst crime was in the early 80s in a town nearby, there was this guy who went insane and murdered almost his entire family (1 out of the 6 kids got away)

Hmm lets see. The move Anatomy of a Murder starring Jimmy Strewart is based on a crime that took place in Michigan.
There is another case that took place here that was featured on Unsolved Mysteries about this man who killed his wife Shannon for the insurance money. He claimed that she fell off a horse and hit her head but it was later discovered that he had injected her with some kind of drug. The guy was eventually caught and brought to justice.
The restaurant where Jimmy Hoffa was last seen alive isn't too far from where I live.
My dads sister was strangled to death by her husband in 1960. That story made local news and my mom still has newspaper clippings from it.
There was someone who went around killing kids in the mid 1970's. He was known as the Oakland County child killer. There were suspects in the case but I don't believe they ever found out who he was.
One of the crimes that stands out most in my mind happened over Labor Day weekend in 1985. A 13 yr old boy was riding his bike alongside a road and was kidnapped and found murdered a couple weeks later. I think I remember it so well because I was also 13 at the time and the story was all over the news. It was scary at that age knowing there were people out there that could just come and snatch you right off the road in the middle of the day.

Originally posted by Janice

That was awful.
Then's there Pamela Smart, the schoolteacher who had an affair with her student and had him kill her husband. Nicole Kidman made a movie based on that murder...can't think of the name of it.

That was "To Die For".

Famous crimes in the State of Washington:

They have finally caught a suspect in the famous Green River Murders where many prostitutes were found in the wooded areas
of South King County between Seattle and Tacoma. These crimes happened over 20 years ago.

The Mary Kay LeTourneau/Vili Fualaau affair where the beautiful schoolteacher had sex with the 12-year old punk in South Seattle and had two kids from the sordid affair.

Ted Bundy was from here.

Actually there are TONS of serial killers here. I live in a weird state.:crazy:

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Famous crimes in the State of Washington:

They have finally caught a suspect in the famous Green River Murders where many prostitutes were found in the wooded areas
of South King County between Seattle and Tacoma. These crimes happened over 20 years ago.

The Mary Kay LeTourneau/Vili Fualaau affair where the beautiful schoolteacher had sex with the 12-year old punk in South Seattle and had two kids from the sordid affair.

Ted Bundy was from here.

Actually there are TONS of serial killers here. I live in a weird state.:crazy: awww the good ole Pacific Northwest anyways Yeah we HEARD ABOUT ALL THAT here OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN :lol: Just like I'm SURE you heard about the Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER again over in Washington
Okay this is my little Rant about the Pacific Northwest and MOST (I say MOST because NOT EVERYONE HERE is like this)People that live here :rant: I HATE how MOST people that live here in the Pacifc Northwest THINKS its SOO PERFECT and nothing bad every happens but ONE MENTION of another state (most specifically California) THEY ARE ALL "WHY would You wanna MOVE THERE its so full of crime OREGON,WASHINGTON IS SO Perfect Nothing bad ever happens here You can walk down the street and be SAFE" i'm like OOH PLEASE do you NOT WATCH THE NEWS BUT AT ALL theres so many crimes going on here ITS PATHETIC dont TELL ME nothing bad EVER HAPPENS HERE :rolleyes:

I just remembered a famous crime in California, although it probably won't match the David Westerfield murder I posted earlier. I saw an "American Justice" episode in which they tell of a guy named Melvin Ignatow who brutally raped and murdered a woman and managed to get away with it because the jury found him not guilty. They found evidence after the case that was concrete but he can't be tried again.

Heh! Los Angeles? Gee, there are so many it's tough to name just a few. Take your pick ~~

Current, or relatively so:
OJ Simpson
Rodney King
Lyle and Eric Menendez
Robert Blake

Older:
Charles Manson murders
RFK assassination
Black Dahlia murder

Originally posted by Mysty Eyes
OJ Simpson

I was in third grade when that happened. That's another case which proves that the double-jeopardy law can sometimes prevent criminals from being punished.

25 kids or so were murdered in Detroit last year. Also, Jimmy Hoffa was last seen at a place in Michigan, right?

My city is pretty safe but last year a man was found murdered at a Wal-Mart construction site. (Which my dad's company was bulidng :eek: ) And 2 years ago my brother had school cancelled because someone who lived close to the school locked himself in his house threatening to shoot the kids and his house was surrounded by the cops. Thankfully though not a lot of crimes are committed where I live.

The most famous crime that happened in Grayson was the shootings out to East Carter High School on January 18th 1993. Scott Pennington shot his teacher and then he shot a janitior.

In Massachusetts

I'm not sure what year these took place but I can think of 3 of them

Mary Lou Arruda was kidnapped and tied to a tree and left to die (my dad says that she lived near us but this was before I was born and before we moved here in 83)
A man in Boston murdered his pregnant wife (they made a tv movie about it)


Last July a cook at a Burger King rest-stop followed a woman named Alexandra Zapp into the ladies room and stabbed her to death he turned out to be a convicted rapist.

In 2001, right up the street from my house @ Taco Bell a man shot his mother in law with a rifle or something like that.


In California.


the Rodney King beating

Van Dam Murder- The one in San Diego

Charles Manson Murders

Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman( i think that was his name)
Murders.

Originally posted by Mysty Eyes
Heh! Los Angeles? Gee, there are so many it's tough to name just a few.

Jeez I know! I was looking at profiles of serial killers yesterday and there was an overwhelming amount of them in LA.. and I'm going to be moving there later this year. Yikes!

Another thing that happened in Fort Worth was the shootings at Wedgewood Baptist Church.

Originally posted by laceyinthesky


Jeez I know! I was looking at profiles of serial killers yesterday and there was an overwhelming amount of them in LA.. and I'm going to be moving there later this year. Yikes! I just gotta say LA Scares me:eek: you move to California you move to Anahiem or Huntington Beach LESS CRIME the same amount of California fun and Sunshine thats JMO though

Um, alot of students in Westmorland county are being shot and raped, in Pittsburgh, alot of shootings, um, ppl are dying all over PA. A kid in Lawerence brot a stun gun to skool. Like i said, ppl are dying.


OMG!!:confused: :confused: Why the frik is my dad hitting the table? :confused:

Originally posted by gbscott1954
Do you consider the Rodney King beating a crime?
I do. He was beaten within an inch of his life.

I thought of another one. It was in Michigan where a first grader brought a gun to school and killed one of his classmates. :(

Probably the most famous crime to occur here in New Jersey was the kidnapping and murder of aviator Charles Lindberg's infant son. The investigation of the kidnapping was supervised by the head of the New Jersey Stae Police, Colonel Norman Schwartzkopf. He is the father of General Norman "Stormin' Norman" Schwartzkopf, the Commander of American military forces during Operation Desert Storm. I found the following summary of events on a web site devoted to the life of Charles Lindberg:

On March 1, 1932, the Lindberghs' 20-month-old son, Charles Augustus, Jr., was kidnapped from the family home in New Jersey. About ten weeks later, his body was found. In 1934, police arrested a carpenter, Bruno Richard Hauptmann, and charged him with the murder. Hauptmann was convicted of the crime. He was executed in 1936.

The press sensationalized the tragedy. Reporters, photographers, and curious onlookers pestered the Lindberghs constantly. In 1935, after the Hauptmann trial, Lindbergh, his wife, and their 3-year-old son, Jon, moved to Europe in search of privacy and safety.

The Lindbergh kidnapping led Congress to pass the "Lindbergh law." This law makes kidnapping a federal offense if the victim is taken across state lines or if the mail service is used for ransom demands.

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
Jeez I know! I was looking at profiles of serial killers yesterday and there was an overwhelming amount of them in LA.. and I'm going to be moving there later this year. Yikes!

Just find a good area to live and you'll be comfortable.

Recommended places: Woodland Hills, Northridge and Chatsworth (especially the northern part), Granada Hills, Studio City, Burbank, Sunland, Glendale, Silver Lake, Palos Verdes/Rolling Hills, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Ventura... many more. Simi Valley, Santa Clarita and Thousand Oaks are in those lists of safest 50 big cities in the U.S. One of those three is in the #2 or #3 position.
If you're rich: Beverly Hills, Bel-Air, San Marino, parts of Porter Ranch, Northridge and Chatsworth, Sherman Oaks, Encino and Tarzana.

Places to avoid: South L.A., East L.A., Downtown L.A., Downtown Hollywood, Watts, Pacoima, San Fernando, Sylmar, parts of Canoga Park and Van Nuys. Also Sun Valley and parts of North Hollywood.

Originally posted by Janice
I do. He was beaten within an inch of his life.

Yeah, too bad he did not resist arrest (like the two other passengers with him) and the cops could have just taken him in without confrontation.

Originally posted by Fleet


Just find a good area to live and you'll be comfortable.

Recommended places: Woodland Hills, Northridge and Chatsworth (especially the northern part), Granada Hills, Studio City, Burbank, Sunland, Glendale, Silver Lake, Palos Verdes/Rolling Hills, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Ventura... many more. Simi Valley, Santa Clarita and Thousand Oaks are in those lists of safest 50 big cities in the U.S. One of those three is in the #2 or #3 position.
If you're rich: Beverly Hills, Bel-Air, San Marino, parts of Porter Ranch, Northridge and Chatsworth, Sherman Oaks, Encino and Tarzana.

Places to avoid: South L.A., East L.A., Downtown L.A., Downtown Hollywood, Watts, Pacoima, San Fernando, Sylmar, parts of Canoga Park and Van Nuys. Also Sun Valley and parts of North Hollywood.

Thanks. :)

Originally posted by Fleet


Just find a good area to live and you'll be comfortable.

Recommended places: Woodland Hills, Northridge and Chatsworth (especially the northern part), Granada Hills, Studio City, Burbank, Sunland, Glendale, Silver Lake, Palos Verdes/Rolling Hills, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Ventura... many more. Simi Valley, Santa Clarita and Thousand Oaks are in those lists of safest 50 big cities in the U.S. One of those three is in the #2 or #3 position.
If you're rich: Beverly Hills, Bel-Air, San Marino, parts of Porter Ranch, Northridge and Chatsworth, Sherman Oaks, Encino and Tarzana.

Places to avoid: South L.A., East L.A., Downtown L.A., Downtown Hollywood, Watts, Pacoima, San Fernando, Sylmar, parts of Canoga Park and Van Nuys. Also Sun Valley and parts of North Hollywood.

Any other recommended places?

Originally posted by Willow4ever1981
In 2001, right up the street from my house @ Taco Bell a man shot his mother in law with a rifle or something like that.


Really? I don't remember that. I remember a few years ago (I think it was a few years ago) a woman shot her ex husband and his girlfriend at their apartment and then went around the corner and shot and killed a retired police officer.

Originally posted by Barnabas



Really? I don't remember that. I remember a few years ago (I think it was a few years ago) a woman shot her ex husband and his girlfriend at their apartment and then went around the corner and shot and killed a retired police officer.


Actually now that I think about it, it could have been in 2000, not really sure though.

I remember that one happening, now that you mentioned it.

Originally posted by Fleet

Yeah, too bad he did not resist arrest (like the two other passengers with him) and the cops could have just taken him in without confrontation.
It is too bad, but he still didn't deserve the pummeling he got, which continued even after he was subdued.
I think Rodney King is a dirtbag...constantly in trouble with the law, but that beating was disgusting, in my opinion. If I didn't see it for myself on tape, I'd never believe it.
Talk about the punishment not fitting the crime.

Originally posted by Fleet


Just find a good area to live and you'll be comfortable.

Recommended places: Woodland Hills, Northridge and Chatsworth (especially the northern part), Granada Hills, Studio City, Burbank, Sunland, Glendale, Silver Lake, Palos Verdes/Rolling Hills, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Ventura... many more. Simi Valley, Santa Clarita and Thousand Oaks are in those lists of safest 50 big cities in the U.S. One of those three is in the #2 or #3 position.
If you're rich: Beverly Hills, Bel-Air, San Marino, parts of Porter Ranch, Northridge and Chatsworth, Sherman Oaks, Encino and Tarzana.

Places to avoid: South L.A., East L.A., Downtown L.A., Downtown Hollywood, Watts, Pacoima, San Fernando, Sylmar, parts of Canoga Park and Van Nuys. Also Sun Valley and parts of North Hollywood. May I also add that Anahiem and Huntington Beach also Long Beach and Belmont Shores EXCELLENT Places to leave

Originally posted by Janice
It is too bad, but he still didn't deserve the pummeling he got, which continued even after he was subdued.
I think Rodney King is a dirtbag...constantly in trouble with the law, but that beating was disgusting, in my opinion. If I didn't see it for myself on tape, I'd never believe it.
Talk about the punishment not fitting the crime.

Well, I was concerned, too. But when I learned that King was a career criminal who robbed a liquor store clerk and beat him with a tire iron so bad that he was in a wheelchair, my concern for Mr. King faded away. I was more concerned about that liquor store clerk.
The judge in the officers' case said the subduing of King went on for 18 seconds longer than necessary. I guess all policemen should carry a stopwatch with them.;)

Originally posted by AnahiemPMWitch
May I also add that Anahiem and Huntington Beach also Long Beach and Belmont Shores EXCELLENT Places to leave

Those are nice towns, too. There are a lot I didn't list. How about Buena Park?

Originally posted by Fleet


Well, I was concerned, too. But when I learned that King was a career criminal who robbed a liquor store clerk and beat him with a tire iron so bad that he was in a wheelchair, my concern for Mr. King faded away. I was more concerned about that liquor store clerk.
The judge in the officers' case said the subduing of King went on for 18 seconds longer than necessary. I guess all policemen should carry a stopwatch with them.;)
I'm not concerned with Rodney King. I really think he's a dirtbag. I'm simply saying that he didn't deserve that beating for resisting arrest. I don't think the cops who beat him were doing it because they knew he put someone in a wheelchair.
Two wrongs don't make a right anyway.
That ruling was ridiculous to the point of igniting LA which led to the near death beating of that poor truck driver--another travesty.
There was plenty more wrong with the Rodney King beating than the fact that it went on 18 seconds too long.
For the hell of it, I just did a search. There are too many websites to list that support the injustice of that ruling, which many, including myself, believe indirectly led to OJ Simpson's acquittal.
But, as Oprah says, "That's another show." ;)

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
Any other recommended places?

Do you know what part of S. California you plan to move to? It's a big area!

Let's see...other towns:

Valencia, Santa Barbara (expensive, though), Newhall, Toluca Lake, parts of Pasadena, Calabasas, Hidden Hills (expensive), Westlake Village, Agoura Hills, Newbury Park, Moorpark, Montrose, Altadena and La Canada.

If you know the general area you are moving too, I can provide weather data.

Originally posted by Fleet


Do you know what part of S. California you plan to move to? It's a big area!

Let's see...other towns:

Valencia, Santa Barbara (expensive, though), Newhall, Toluca Lake, parts of Pasadena, Calabasas, Hidden Hills (expensive), Westlake Village, Agoura Hills, Newbury Park, Moorpark, Montrose, Altadena and La Canada.

If you know the general area you are moving too, I can provide weather data.

Well I know where I'm living when I first move there (I'm moving in with people), I'm just looking for suggestions for when I move out.

Originally posted by Janice

I'm not concerned with Rodney King. I really think he's a dirtbag. I'm simply saying that he didn't deserve that beating for resisting arrest. I don't think the cops who beat him were doing it because they knew he put someone in a wheelchair.


Did you know that crime took a sharp increase after that Rodney King affair? Because cops were afraid to arrest anyone because they were afraid they would be sued.
As I said, all Mr. King had to do was follow the officer's instructions instead of continuously getting up and charging at the officers. The part of the tape shown on TV does not show him doing that. Also, right there in the police manual, the procedure for apprehending suspects who resist is, to quote, "beat them into submission." That rule is probably been changed by now, but back then, it applied. People should blame the police manual.

Rodney King sued and won $3.8 million. Not bad, considering he did not have any major injuries. (Although his lawyers got most of that money.)

Originally posted by laceyinthesky

Well I know where I'm living when I first move there (I'm moving in with people), I'm just looking for suggestions for when I move out.

Here is a good view of the San Fernando Valley and the Santa Monica Mountains. Near the center of the photo, beyond the mountains, the buildings of downtown L.A. are faintly visible. Looking southest from the Porter Ranch area.

Originally posted by Fleet


Did you know that crime took a sharp increase after that Rodney King affair? Because cops were afraid to arrest anyone because they were afraid they would be sued.
As I said, all Mr. King had to do was follow the officer's instructions instead of continuously getting up and charging at the officers. The part of the tape shown on TV does not show him doing that. Also, right there in the police manual, the procedure for apprehending suspects who resist is, to quote, "beat them into submission." That rule is probably been changed by now, but back then, it applied. People should blame the police manual.

Rodney King sued and won $3.8 million. Not bad, considering he did not have any major injuries. (Although his lawyers got most of that money.)
We're in agreement that he shouldn't have resisted arrest. What bothers me is how they kept beating him when he was down and no longer posed a threat.
We'll have to file this one under 'agree to disagree' because I'll never think it's acceptable, and to be honest Fleet, I'm surprised that you do (and that's a compliment).
I don't think the cops were going by the book considering two of them went to prison. Blame the police manual? That's silly. This was blatant police brutality.
http://www.hrw.org/reports98/police/uspo72.htm#P2018_506949

Jeffrey Dahmer is from Wisconsin.

There's also the Monfils murder from '94. Tom Monfils supposedly told on his fellow factory works regarding theft, so 6 of them ganged up on him and pushed him into some paper machine and it tore him into shreds.. literally.

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
Well I know where I'm living when I first move there (I'm moving in with people), I'm just looking for suggestions for when I move out.

I forgot to mention that you should really like the weather out here. A few days ago, it was not only warm, but actually hot! Riverside hit 97 degrees.

A few others... temps. for Jan. 31

City High Low

Anaheim- - - - - - - 94 58
Burbank- - - - - - - 91 54
Escondido- - - - - - 92 49
Long Beach- - - - - 93 53
Downtown L.A.- - 91 55
Mission Viejo- - - - 95 58
Northridge- - - - - 91 64
Oxnard- - - - - - - 94 60
Pico Rivera- - - - - 94 55
San Bernardino- - 92 46
Santa Ana- - - - - 96 54
Santa Barbara- - 89 53
Simi Valley- - - - - 91 60
Thousand Oaks- - 94 49
Woodland Hills- - 92 53

Even Mt. Wilson, with an elevation of 5,710 feet, had a 77 high and 57 low on Jan. 31.

Wow, am I getting spoiled with this weather! It will be hard to adjust when the temps go back to normal, which for the valley areas is about 66 for the high and 43 for the low. (Much cooler today; 65/48 the high/low.)

AWWWW Fleet the Weather there is why I LOVE IT so much I'm SICK of the Oregon RAIN and when its not raining we get the COLD EAST WIND I love the weather in Cali the ocean side is the best cause its NOT as hot as the valley LAST SUMMER I went to CA and I stayed with my sister in laws cousins in San Bernadino it was HOT THERE but then we went to visit my aunt in Belmont shores and my cousin in HB and it was SOO MUCH NICER not as Hot

Originally posted by Jimbo
Probably the most famous crime to occur here in New Jersey was the kidnapping and murder of aviator Charles Lindberg's infant son. The investigation of the kidnapping was supervised by the head of the New Jersey Stae Police, Colonel Norman Schwartzkopf. He is the father of General Norman "Stormin' Norman" Schwartzkopf, the Commander of American military forces during Operation Desert Storm. I found the following summary of events on a web site devoted to the life of Charles Lindberg:

On March 1, 1932, the Lindberghs' 20-month-old son, Charles Augustus, Jr., was kidnapped from the family home in New Jersey. About ten weeks later, his body was found. In 1934, police arrested a carpenter, Bruno Richard Hauptmann, and charged him with the murder. Hauptmann was convicted of the crime. He was executed in 1936.

The press sensationalized the tragedy. Reporters, photographers, and curious onlookers pestered the Lindberghs constantly. In 1935, after the Hauptmann trial, Lindbergh, his wife, and their 3-year-old son, Jon, moved to Europe in search of privacy and safety.

The Lindbergh kidnapping led Congress to pass the "Lindbergh law." This law makes kidnapping a federal offense if the victim is taken across state lines or if the mail service is used for ransom demands.
This is definitely the most famous crime in NJ. There are all sorts of theories as to Hauptmann's guilt or innocence. The media made a real circus out of the trial. It was the OJ Simpson case of the 30s.
It's quite a fascinating and very sad story. The baby was beautiful. Anne Lindbergh died in 2001 at the age of 94.

Originally posted by Fleet


I forgot to mention that you should really like the weather out here. A few days ago, it was not only warm, but actually hot! Riverside hit 97 degrees.

A few others... temps. for Jan. 31

City High Low

Anaheim- - - - - - - 94 58
Burbank- - - - - - - 91 54
Escondido- - - - - - 92 49
Long Beach- - - - - 93 53
Downtown L.A.- - 91 55
Mission Viejo- - - - 95 58
Northridge- - - - - 91 64
Oxnard- - - - - - - 94 60
Pico Rivera- - - - - 94 55
San Bernardino- - 92 46
Santa Ana- - - - - 96 54
Santa Barbara- - 89 53
Simi Valley- - - - - 91 60
Thousand Oaks- - 94 49
Woodland Hills- - 92 53

Even Mt. Wilson, with an elevation of 5,710 feet, had a 77 high and 57 low on Jan. 31.

Wow, am I getting spoiled with this weather! It will be hard to adjust when the temps go back to normal, which for the valley areas is about 66 for the high and 43 for the low. (Much cooler today; 65/48 the high/low.)

Thanks for the info! :)

Living in New York, obviously the biggest crime was the World Trade Center attacks on 9/11.

However there have been other several high profile cases here including the Son of Sam and the Preppy Murder.

Originally posted by Janice

This is definitely the most famous crime in NJ. There are all sorts of theories as to Hauptmann's guilt or innocence. The media made a real circus out of the trial. It was the OJ Simpson case of the 30s.
It's quite a fascinating and very sad story. The baby was beautiful. Anne Lindbergh died in 2001 at the age of 94.

Richard Hauptmann's widow lived in suburban Philadelphia, and passed away a few years ago. Until her dying day, she maintained that her husband was innocent.

I guess the other most notable event that happened here in New Jersey was the Hindenburg disaster, which many maintained was an act of sabotage. I recently saw a program on the History Channel in which a scientist was able to offer pretty convincing evidence that it was an accident, and not sabotage. Apparently, the outer skin of the airship contained some type of material that was a very good conductor for electricity. As static electricity built up in the atmosphere around the Hindenburg, a spark was generated which traveled quickly along the suface of the ship, and ignited the Hydrogen inside. I've been to programs commemorating the anniversary of the Hindenberg Disaster at Lakehurst Naval Air Station, and have had the pleasure of meeting a gentleman who was one of the ground crew that evening. He and his crew mates were in the process of securing the ship's mooring lines when the Hindenburg burst into flames. in fact, I've met him on a couple of occaisions). He is a very fascinating person to talk to.

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
Thanks for the info! :)

While on the subject of weather, Death Valley has had some extremely high temps in the last few years...

Check this out- these were the actual temps recorded at Death Valley, in the shade, on the date indicated:

Date High/Low

June 27, 1994 126/101
July 5, 2001 120/100
July 13, 2002 127/100

Also, back in '98, it went to 129 degrees!

I suggest you don't move to Death Valley. :D At least not in the summer.

Originally posted by AnahiemPMWitch
AWWWW Fleet the Weather there is why I LOVE IT so much I'm SICK of the Oregon RAIN and when its not raining we get the COLD EAST WIND I love the weather in Cali the ocean side is the best cause its NOT as hot as the valley LAST SUMMER I went to CA and I stayed with my sister in laws cousins in San Bernadino it was HOT THERE but then we went to visit my aunt in Belmont shores and my cousin in HB and it was SOO MUCH NICER not as Hot

Oh yeah, it's much hotter inland than coastal in the summer. It can be cool, cloudy and 65 degrees at Malibu or Santa Monica on a typical summer day, and sunny and 95 at Woodland Hills or Monrovia. Even within the San Fernando Valley, it can be about 85 at Burbank and about 95 at Chatsworth on the same day!

We could use some rain, though. It's been about 5 or 6 weeks since we've had a good rain.

Originally posted by Fleet


Oh yeah, it's much hotter inland than coastal in the summer. It can be cool, cloudy and 65 degrees at Malibu or Santa Monica on a typical summer day, and sunny and 95 at Woodland Hills or Monrovia. Even within the San Fernando Valley, it can be about 85 at Burbank and about 95 at Chatsworth on the same day!

We could use some rain, though. It's been about 5 or 6 weeks since we've had a good rain. :lol: oh I know I absolutely love the coastal side I go there every summer to visit my Aunt and cousins
trust me if you lived here Youd be SOOO sick of the rain

70+ degrees in California right now? That's it! I'm jumping on a plane and flying cross-country there, paralyzing fear of flying or not!!!

Today actually wasn't so bad. We finally reached above 32 degrees for the first time in over three weeks and it was clear. calm, and pretty sunny.

I live in NY so sadly Sept.11 :(

But West Islip is a very peaceful town.There's been a few bomb threats in my school but that's about it.

Originally posted by AnahiemPMWitch
:lol: oh I know I absolutely love the coastal side I go there every summer to visit my Aunt and cousins
trust me if you lived here Youd be SOOO sick of the rain

Yeah, it's great to drive out of the hot valley over to the beach on a hot summer day. I usually go to Zuma or Leo Carrillo Beach. Then on the way back, when I go back into the valley, it feels like entering an oven!

I like rain sometimes, but if it's for 4 or 5 days straight, I can't wait for it to clear up. As you said, I would be sick of too much because I do a lot of bicycling.

Originally posted by WingsFan
70+ degrees in California right now? That's it! I'm jumping on a plane and flying cross-country there, paralyzing fear of flying or not!!!
Today actually wasn't so bad. We finally reached above 32 degrees for the first time in over three weeks and it was clear. calm, and pretty sunny.

Flying out here to Calif.? Just don't land in Death Valley. :)

32 degrees; time to put on shorts!

Actually, don't believe anything I said about California. It's cold out here. (I'm lying because there are already over 32 million people out here!) ;)

Originally posted by Jimbo
I guess the other most notable event that happened here in New Jersey was the Hindenburg disaster
That's an interesting story and theory Jimbo. I think some people died on the ground too, but it sounds as if you know more.
The footage of the Hindenburg disaster is difficult to watch, as is listening to the broadcaster crying his heart out while trying to report it.

Originally posted by Fleet



I like rain sometimes, but if it's for 4 or 5 days straight, I can't wait for it to clear up. As you said, I would be sick of too much because I do a lot of bicycling. :lol: try getting rain 9 months out of the year thats Portland the ONLY time we see the sun is in the summertime and on the off chance that we dont get that much rain during fall,spring and winter we get the east wind thats freezing!!

Originally posted by AnahiemPMWitch
:lol: try getting rain 9 months out of the year thats Portland the ONLY time we see the sun is in the summertime and on the off chance that we dont get that much rain during fall,spring and winter we get the east wind thats freezing!!

Yeah, that's too much rain for me. And I just can't take cold weather (for me, cold being anything below about 55- 60 degrees).

I got curious as to how much rain Portland gets, so I looked it up in an almanac...

Annual average precipitation:

Portland, Ore.- - - - - 36.30"
Los Angeles, Calif.- - 14.77

A few others:

Mobile, Alabama- - - - - 63.96
Phoenix, Arizona- - - - - 7.66
San Francisco, Calif.- - - 19.70
Chicago- - - - - - - - - - - 35.82
New Orleans, LA.- - - - - 61.88
Boston, Mass.- - - - - - - 41.51
New York, N.Y.- - - - - - - 42.12
Philadelphia, Penns. - - 41.41
Houston, Texas - - - 46.07
Seattle, Wash.- - - - - - - 37.19

Record High/Low

Portland, Ore.- - - - - - - 107/-3
Los Angeles, Calif.- - - - 112/28

Average High/Low

Jan. July

Portland, Ore.- - - - - - 45/34 80/57
Los Angeles, Calif.- - - 68/49 84/65

Originally posted by Fleet


Yeah, that's too much rain for me. And I just can't take cold weather (for me, cold being anything below about 55- 60 degrees).

I got curious as to how much rain Portland gets, so I looked it up in an almanac...

Annual average precipitation:

Portland, Ore.- - - - - 36.30"
Los Angeles, Calif.- - 14.77

A few others:

Mobile, Alabama- - - - - 63.96
Phoenix, Arizona- - - - - 7.66
San Francisco, Calif.- - - 19.70
Chicago- - - - - - - - - - - 35.82
New Orleans, LA.- - - - - 61.88
Boston, Mass.- - - - - - - 41.51
New York, N.Y.- - - - - - - 42.12
Philadelphia, Penns. - - 41.41
Houston, Texas - - - 46.07
Seattle, Wash.- - - - - - - 37.19

Record High/Low

Portland, Ore.- - - - - - - 107/-3
Los Angeles, Calif.- - - - 112/28

Average High/Low

Jan. July

Portland, Ore.- - - - - - 45/34 80/57
Los Angeles, Calif.- - - 68/49 84/65
Yup that sounds about right although the precip IT SEEMS like its more who knows i could be wrong though maybe it just seems like its more cause I've lived her for 30 years and saw 9 months of rain EVERYDAY for all those years hehehehe

Originally posted by AnahiemPMWitch
Yup that sounds about right although the precip IT SEEMS like its more who knows i could be wrong though maybe it just seems like its more cause I've lived her for 30 years and saw 9 months of rain EVERYDAY for all those years hehehehe

I thought the yearly rain was more, too. The northwest part of Oregon get more. IIRC, something like 40-60" per year.

Originally posted by Fleet


I thought the yearly rain was more, too. The northwest part of Oregon get more. IIRC, something like 40-60" per year. the other thing is I actually live in a suburb of Portland so I think we tend to get more rain and more east wind when it happens

Originally posted by Janice

That's an interesting story and theory Jimbo. I think some people died on the ground too, but it sounds as if you know more.
The footage of the Hindenburg disaster is difficult to watch, as is listening to the broadcaster crying his heart out while trying to report it.

36 people died in the accident. Of those, I believe only one was on the ground. Quite a few others, both on the ship and on the ground, were injured. Some were badly burned. Amazingly, there were several people on the airship that escaped unharmed.

The Hindenburg was probably the first major disaster that was captured on film, and covered live by the media as it was actually happening.

Originally posted by Fleet


While on the subject of weather, Death Valley has had some extremely high temps in the last few years...

Check this out- these were the actual temps recorded at Death Valley, in the shade, on the date indicated:

Date High/Low

June 27, 1994 126/101
July 5, 2001 120/100
July 13, 2002 127/100

Also, back in '98, it went to 129 degrees!

I suggest you don't move to Death Valley. :D At least not in the summer.

LOL.. and I thought Texas was hot. :lol: I'll take your advice and not move there!

I'm just gonna reply to the topic...not the weather thingy...

But does anybody remember hearing on the news national not to long ago about a parent who made her kid go out onto the street with a sign saying I will not to my homework and such. That actully happened in my town. Infact 3 blocks from where I live is where they live.

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
LOL.. and I thought Texas was hot. :lol: I'll take your advice and not move there!

Death Valley is an extreme. Other desert towns, like Needles, Palm Springs, Blythe and Thermal have typical July highs of 106-108 (DV is 116).

I meant to answer the question to this thread yesterday...

In my immediate area, the most famous crime would the the usual bank robbery/robberies. If you count the whole L.A. area, it would be the crimes that others listed above.

Meh, this was a good topic to bring back, plus I never even mentioned Colorado.

As everyone probably already knows, the biggest crime in Boulder was the murder of 9 year old Jon-Benet Ramsey back in either '97 or '98. But the biggest crime in Colorado history was the school shootings at Colombine High School in Littleton back in April of '99.

Originally posted by Original Prankster
Meh, this was a good topic to bring back, plus I never even mentioned Colorado.

As everyone probably already knows, the biggest crime in Boulder was the murder of 9 year old Jon-Benet Ramsey back in either '97 or '98. But the biggest crime in Colorado history was the school shootings at Colombine High School in Littleton back in April of '99.

Actually, I think it was '96 because I remember VERY vividly I was in 6th grade then. The Jon Benet Ramsey was a HUGE thing for my social studies class to talk about all year.

And I have an uncle that used to live 10 mins away from Columbine HS when the shootings happened in '99, but he's now since long moved out of Littleton and lives in Broomfield.

Okay, here. My memory's kinda fuzzy, even tho I remember reading about this, this past summer.

In 1983, there was this VERY wanted guy that the police were after because he'd been committing tax evasion for MANY years (at least 10-12, I believe, since sometime in the early 70's). One day, they DID catch this guy going down the Interstate (I-94 in my state, ND). There was apparently a shootout and this guy killed three police officers (I think) and then he fled to Fargo and went into hiding until his death in 1985. I wish I could remember everything....That was a really interesting story...

Robert Lee Yates, the Spokane Serial Killer.

Eric Robert Rudolph abortion clinic bombing in Birmingham, AL back in 1998.

Not much ever happens here, that was the last real crime here that got national attention.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
The 2 17 year old boys killing 2 professors up in northern NH a year or 2 ago. Thats all I can remember. Ill do a search.. Thats all I can still think of.

For Mass though, theres Lizzie Borden. Didnt read all the crimes to see if it was already posted.

The most famous crime in my City would have to be the Green River Killings.
Green River is about 30min. from where I live, but Gary Ridgeway lived only 10min. away from me. And my bestfriends dad worked with him some 15-20 years ago.
:eek:
Talk about scary, but he's locked away now thats good.

Back in 1998 in the mid-term elections, Nashville state and very popular Senator, Tommy Burkes was running for election and by the eve on the August 6th vote, on August 3rd, he was found shot to death in the head on his farm near Nashville and the culprit was his challenger Byron (get this for a middle name he changed to "Low-tax") Looper who has been in run-ins with the law as the Tax properitor by abusing his power by letting go of almost all of his workers who helped him win the Tax properitor job and then let them go in a hearbeat, swindling and spending tax money on lavious things like vacations, boats, and hung out in strip bars and not working enough(he was almost never in his office at all in his tax properitor days) and was loosing the race and in a desperate attempt, killed Burkes with his gun and fled to Georgia where he was found and arrested. He is serving life without parole on first-degree murder charges in 1999.

In '93 there was a man who was wanted on 43 counts of child molestation. So instead of being caught by the cops shots himself in the head in front of his store.

Probably several months ago when 3 babies were found wrapped up in trashbags in a shed, it turned out theyd been there for about 10 years.

OH my how gross. Poor babies

I don't understand how some people can be so heartless :(

Also on my moms route (she delivers mail) this guy killed his girlfriend and stuck her under the porch.

Then theres Asha Degree(sp?). shes been missing for a pretty long time.

There was also some firefighters that set some homes on fire just so they could put them out.

A few weeks ago, not far from where I live, cops found what they though was a drug lab, but the people were actually making bombs.

Someone wrote on a bench last week.

Originally posted by Bty
Someone wrote on a bench last week.

:eek: that deserves a whipping :whip

Originally posted by Brian
I think the most famous crime in San Diego, California is when David Westerfield murdered 7 year old Danielle Van Dam last year. The guy was a sick bastard and I lived close to this person.


I still say that this was the most famous crime in my city. I don't think I'll ever forget this case.

I live in Iowa.

Here's one. Not real famous, but it did make all those cop chase shows.


Dude and his wife steal a riding lawn mower from a Wal-Mart. They speed off, cops in pursuit. Dude is driving a little Chevy S-10 pickup. Dude runs a red light and gets T-boned by a semi.

You get what's coming to ya.

Originally posted by PZelda: VICKI!!
Actually, I think it was '96 because I remember VERY vividly I was in 6th grade then. The Jon Benet Ramsey was a HUGE thing for my social studies class to talk about all year.

And I have an uncle that used to live 10 mins away from Columbine HS when the shootings happened in '99, but he's now since long moved out of Littleton and lives in Broomfield.

Broomfiled? The Broomfiled that's 20 minutes south of me? ;)

Originally posted by Crimson and Clover
:eek: that deserves a whipping :whip

It does! LOL

Originally posted by sArAh123¼
Probably several months ago when 3 babies were found wrapped up in trashbags in a shed, it turned out theyd been there for about 10 years.

Ooooo, I heard about that!! I remember that, that was really sad. :(

Originally posted by Original Prankster
Broomfiled? The Broomfiled that's 20 minutes south of me? ;)

:nod: That's the one :)

Plus, I have an aunt that lives in Boulder (where you are). :D

Originally posted by Crimson and Clover
:eek: that deserves a whipping :whip

Maybe I should write on a bench.


:D

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Maybe I should write on a bench.


:D

:nod: :whip

:lol:

Originally posted by Burley_Furley
The most famous crime in my City would have to be the Green River Killings.
Green River is about 30min. from where I live, but Gary Ridgeway lived only 10min. away from me. And my bestfriends dad worked with him some 15-20 years ago.
:eek:
Talk about scary, but he's locked away now thats good.

Same here. Gee, that is so weird. I live in Auburn, and now the river that runs through the town is basically the crime scene here and there. :eek: I have a co-worker who said that her husband worked with Gary Ridgeway. He was a nice guy at his job, he said, but was not surprised when he was arrested for being the suspect.

Gee, the Pacific Northwest is a hotbed of homicide. Bundy, Yates, Kevin Coe, Ridgeway, the list goes on.:eek: :(

Originally posted by sArAh123¼
Probably several months ago when 3 babies were found wrapped up in trashbags in a shed, it turned out theyd been there for about 10 years.

Oh my God. :(

Here are a few that happened here in Houston:

The Icebox Murders - Father's Day, 1965. Houston police find the mutilated remains of a husband and wife in their refrigerator.

Houston's Candy Man - August, 1973. The story can be found here:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/corll/index_1.html?sect=2

April '97 - Doris Angelton was found murdered in her home. Both her husband and son were suspects.

June '01 - Andrea Yates

1933 - "Pretty Boy" Floyd, part of Bonnie and Clyde's gang, was captured in Houston.

June 1999 - A woman is murdered by Angel Resendiz, a serial killer who made his way all along railroad crossings. That was a scary time to be living in this city.

I live in the state where:

1. PeeWee Herman was caught masturbating in public.
2. George Michael "exposed" himself.
3. Winona Ryder was "rehearsing" inside a Saks Fifth Avenue.
4. O.J. allegedly DID NOT kill his wife.
5. Rodney King was beaten.

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Same here. Gee, that is so weird. I live in Auburn, and now the river that runs through the town is basically the crime scene here and there. :eek: I have a co-worker who said that her husband worked with Gary Ridgeway. He was a nice guy at his job, he said, but was not surprised when he was arrested for being the suspect.

Gee, the Pacific Northwest is a hotbed of homicide. Bundy, Yates, Kevin Coe, Ridgeway, the list goes on.:eek: :(

I live in DesMoines. My friends dad said the same thing, that he seemed like a nice guy at work, but he was also a keep to himself type of person. He worked in a different department so he didn't talk to him all that much. How weird

:eek:

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Same here. Gee, that is so weird. I live in Auburn, and now the river that runs through the town is basically the crime scene here and there. :eek: I have a co-worker who said that her husband worked with Gary Ridgeway. He was a nice guy at his job, he said, but was not surprised when he was arrested for being the suspect.

Gee, the Pacific Northwest is a hotbed of homicide. Bundy, Yates, Kevin Coe, Ridgeway, the list goes on.:eek: :( let us not Forget Oregon City and Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis
thats the Pacific Northwest to *sighs* and people wonder why I realllly Hate it here

Originally posted by little insomniac
Houston's Candy Man - August, 1973. The story can be found here:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/corll/index_1.html?sect=2

Oh, god. That's so sad. Glad we don't have crime in my "village".

Originally posted by AnahiemPMWitch
let us not Forget Oregon City and Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis
thats the Pacific Northwest to *sighs* and people wonder why I realllly Hate it here Must be something in our rainwater. :spit: :crazy:

Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I live in the state where:

1. PeeWee Herman was caught masturbating in public.

I thought that happened in Florida, not CA...

Originally posted by laceyinthesky
Jeez I know! I was looking at profiles of serial killers yesterday and there was an overwhelming amount of them in LA.. and I'm going to be moving there later this year. Yikes!


Was Charles Eng in LA or elsewhere in California? He's considered by many to be one of the worst serial killers in American history.

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Must be something in our rainwater. :spit: :crazy: *laughs* its GOTTA BE

Originally posted by PZelda: VICKI!!
I thought that happened in Florida, not CA...

Most likely you are right. I just assumed.

Originally posted by SBTB Geek
Most likely you are right. I just assumed.

I need to look into that again...It was Sarosata (sp?) but it didn't say what state.

Originally posted by PZelda: VICKI!!
I need to look into that again...It was Sarosata (sp?) but it didn't say what state.

Thats Florida.

Originally posted by Crimson and Clover
Thats Florida.

AHA!

Originally posted by Bty
Oh, god. That's so sad. Glad we don't have crime in my "village".

Yeah, I first started hearing about Dean Corll when I was a kid. :(

I think Joel Rifkin dumped one of his victims in my town once.

i live in glassport pennsylvania its like a real small town but the most famous crime here so far was like 3 weeks ago these 2 school board members from my school were at their hearing for buying kids cigarettes and telling them to have a food fight and they got charged with it and the wife got in her car and ran over the chief of our school police (SAPD) (ya our schools gay and has its own police force that everyone makes fun of lmao) anyways she hit him and drove away real fast. then the chief guy was life flighted...and i was all drunk and seen the helicopter n came running down the street and watched them take him away...(that was a thursday) and we watched it on the news that night and they said we didnt have any school the next day i was all happy :)

another crime was like when i was in 6th grade the day before new years eve these kids beat up this kid gordy carter and killed him and through him in the monongehela river and they found hid body in elizabeth n it was weird cause i knew gordy he stole my brothers money once and my dad chased him down in his car and made fun of his name

Whenever there is a crime, big cities like LA, New York, Chicago, Boston, Dallas, grab all of the attention and spotlight but small towns with populations of less than 10,000 may have had crime in their counties or towns but not nearly the attention or media circus of a big city.

Several years ago (late 70's) Swartz Creek , Michigan (where I live)made the national news concerning The Berlin and Farro waste dump. To this day property values in the area of this dump are influenced by the bad publicity that this wrought so many years ago. I live about 5 miles from there so we are considered "safe". I have heard nothing about this in recent years though. Supposedly it was cleaned up!:eek:

There was a fire at the primary school after accidentally burning some boxes in nice weather when I was working at a conveinence store but I later learned that you have to call the fire department to see if you can burn boxes outside that nearly went out of control!!