Okay you guys help me decide...

I'm flying all the way from St. Louis to San Diego, CA to see Ellen Burstyn in a play. I called to see if I could meet her and explained how far I was traveling and that I'm seeing the show twice and that I'm a huge fan, you'd think she'd appreciate that, right? Wrong. The guy said she does not want to meet any of her fans before or after the show because she's *becoming the character* and afterwards is *too tired*. I can understand that, but keep in mind I met Bonnie Raitt at midnight and she was exhausted from her concert but she was still willing to spend time with the fans and show her appreciation. Now I'm wondering if it's worth going all the way to Cali for someone who couldn't care less. What would you do?

Well, I told ya this earlier. I wouldnt go. I mean If she doesnt give a crap about her fans then obviously she shouldnt have anyone fly halfway across the country to see her. I think waht she did was really selfish and rude, but hey, thats JMO. Do what ever you feel is right Bonnie:D

Personally, if she doesn't care as much about her fans as fans do her, then I say f u Ellen and meet Bonnie Raitt again

just my opinion:)

OT, but bonnie rait was on jenny jones thismorning

No she wasn't...

Originally posted by Bonnie Raitt
No she wasn't...

not on it, on it. but they had a clip of her and queen latifa talking about achohol abuse during pregancy

I agree with what everyone said I mean if they dont care enough to meet thier fans then why bother?? I hate it when celebs act that way its like DONT THEY KNOW we are the REASONS that they make the kind of money they make

If a fan dosent show appreciation for you, then you shouldnt show it for them. But you never know, she may have not meant that at all. The guy who you talked to may have not wanted to bother to even ask. He may be the real reason behind that excuse.

Now you see, stuff like this pisses me off. Okay, we go see your movies, buy your cds, we like you, and whatever. Yet, you can't respect the people that like you. It's just insane.

Sorry, but the performer owes everything to the fans. Without fans, you'd be a nobody. I don't care what a person is thinking. Like if I met Madonna and she thinks I'm a loser, yet she better have a smile on her face. I buy her cds. I buy her posters. I go see her movies. Without me and all of her fans, she wouldn't be as big as she is.

I say don't even bother going to see this Ellen chick. If she can't respect the people that made her big, she don't even need to be in the business.

Just my small rant for today. :)

Originally posted by Jenny
Now you see, stuff like this pisses me off. Okay, we go see your movies, buy your cds, we like you, and whatever. Yet, you can't respect the people that like you. It's just insane.

Sorry, but the performer owes everything to the fans. Without fans, you'd be a nobody. I don't care what a person is thinking. Like if I met Madonna and she thinks I'm a loser, yet she better have a smile on her face. I buy her cds. I buy her posters. I go see her movies. Without me and all of her fans, she wouldn't be as big as she is.

I say don't even bother going to see this Ellen chick. If she can't respect the people that made her big, she don't even need to be in the business.

Just my small rant for today. :)

Precicely. I HATE stuck up celebs. Too tired? Say what?? It's not like she was doing heavy labor.

Same goes for sending celebs letters. Some out there are nice enough to send you something back on their own dime. Then there are the ones that send out photcopied autographs. :rolleyes: Screw them.

Eh. If it were me, I probably wouldn't go. I mean, i dunno.

When I become famous, I swear I will never do this to my fans unless I have like an illness or something that doesnt allow me to do certain things or whatever.

Anyways, I say don't go. If she's not willing to spend time with you, then don't even bother going to see her play or whatever. Its just not worth it, in my opinion.

I think all of you are right-it's not worth it if she doesn't care. I really hate celebrities like this, that think they're beyond their fans. I forgot who said this, but you're right about the heavy labor thing. I'm not asking her to build a house, I'm asking for a few minutes to talk. The guy, though, did sound kind of rude on the phone and a PR person at the theater is going to call me tomorrow, I'll ask her and see if they have the same story. I'll see if she can tell Ellen Burstyn about me. Now if she does tell her and she still says no, then I'm gonna just forget about her and move on. Ugh life sucks...:(

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Precicely. I HATE stuck up celebs. Too tired? Say what?? It's not like she was doing heavy labor.

Same goes for sending celebs letters. Some out there are nice enough to send you something back on their own dime. Then there are the ones that send out photcopied autographs. :rolleyes: Screw them.

Oh yeah, I know. I know some celebs bitch about their privacy. I can't go to McDonalds without being mobbed- blah, blah, blah. Now common sense tells me that I don't want fry grease all over what I want somebody to sign. I can wait until after they finish eating and go up to them and ask for an autograph. Yet, if I see a celeb all my common sense might fly out of my head. lol- I don't think I had that much common sense to start with. lol

I could see why somebody would complain about autograph hunters interrupting your meals. Then again, how long does it take to sign your name on something? It would save so much time instead of bitching about it to just sign your name and smile and take a pic with the fan and maybe the fan will go away.

I know that it must hurt a lot of feelings if you really like a celebrity and you run across them on the streets or in the store and they look right through you. Get the f*** away from me, I'm trying to eat my meal. I'm sure the celebrity loses many fans by having that stuck up 'My **** doesn't stink' attitude.

Originally posted by Jenny
I know that it must hurt a lot of feelings if you really like a celebrity and you run across them on the streets or in the store and they look right through you. Get the f*** away from me, I'm trying to eat my meal. I'm sure the celebrity loses many fans by having that stuck up 'My **** doesn't stink' attitude.

Yeah...you build up these people in your mind as just wonderful people, nice and considerate and all. Then you meet them and they treat you like something stuck to their shoe. Blows your mind completely.

Yeah I thought all celebrities were as nice as Bonnie Raitt...I mean she sent me a personalized autograph and all I did was send her a birthday card (not even asking for it)...why can't everyone just care about their fans and not let Hollywood go to their minds? I said it before and I'll said it again-ugh.

Originally posted by Bonnie Raitt
Yeah I thought all celebrities were as nice as Bonnie Raitt...I mean she sent me a personalized autograph and all I did was send her a birthday card (not even asking for it)...why can't everyone just care about their fans and not let Hollywood go to their minds? I said it before and I'll said it again-ugh.

That was nice of her! It's things like that that make her a x-tra special celeb.

Yes! Someone who really wants to make their fans happy. I think she should teach a class to other celebrities on fan communications...

Originally posted by Bonnie Raitt
Yes! Someone who really wants to make their fans happy. I think she should teach a class to other celebrities on fan communications...

That'd be coolies!!

Anyways, if "like, Becky" still says the same thing, don't go. It be really disappointing to see her right there on stage and not get to talk to her. Great, so the fate of this trip is resting on a valley girl. *crosses toes* This WILL work out!

Oh meangya- thats just peachy. I can understand about her being nice, but too friggan bad. There are mothers who work all day and instead of going to lay down, they put food on the table. Tell her to suck it up. Would I go?? I would, if I was a fan of hers, no matter how rude she is.

Originally posted by Bonnie Raitt
Yes! Someone who really wants to make their fans happy. I think she should teach a class to other celebrities on fan communications...

Yeah, if Bonnie did that she's a Class A celeb and person. I say we need to boycott all the *******s in Hollywood. Let's stop going to the movies and stop supporting their career. If they can't respect the fans, they aren't gonna get our respect for them.

I agree will all of this cause when i met Priscilla Barnes she had signed almost 200 hundered autographs and was nice enought to give me and 100 more people after that an autograph. Some stars are bitches

Question: is Bonnie Raitt the one who sings 'Give me Something to talk about'?? or whatever it's called.

Originally posted by Brandon
Question: is Bonnie Raitt the one who sings 'Give me Something to talk about'?? or whatever it's called.
Yes.

Okay... this is a touchy subject for me because I can see it from both ends, as a fellow performer and as an avid fan of many wonderful talents.


Live theatre is one of the MOST physically draining and demanding jobs there is. You can not begin to comprehend the stamina needed unless you've experienced it for yourself. You'd have to be Wonder Woman to not be exhausted after a show. Take this into consideration: A stage performer does the same draining show, night after night, eight shows a week. They're going to be the epitome of the word exhausted. Period.


Now, I do agree that if a performer is approached, they should be as gracious as possible. However, you have to respect actors for wanting to savage the minimal privacy in their lives. They're people, too, and you can't say, "Well, they chose this business, so they should have been prepared for the outcome." Contrary to popular belief, some actors DO go into the profession for the art, not the fame. Therefore, they don't crave the pedestal they may have been put on, and whereas they appreciate the flattery, they may not want to be held in such respect. You can't point and name call because a performer requests a private life... that's their prerogative. I know it's disappointing to the fans (as one myself), but put yourself in their shoes.

Let me clarify -- I don't think stars have the right to be arrogant and rude to their fans, but if they'd prefer not being noticed or being flooded by a bunch of fans after a tiresome performance, that's understandable. Yes, they should appreciate their fans, but in the same respect, fans should appreciate them enough to respect their wishes and privacy. (Not that I'm accusing anyone of not respecting the stars. LOL)


That's my bit of insight on the topic. I think it's a touchy one, all in all. As a private person myself, I don't seek fame, but in the same respect, I want to pursue a life on the stage and screen and nothings going to stop me from doing so. I live to perform, but I never want to see the day I can't *live* without being constantly followed by a bodyguard.

Originally posted by Jenny
Yeah, if Bonnie did that she's a Class A celeb and person. I say we need to boycott all the *******s in Hollywood. Let's stop going to the movies and stop supporting their career. If they can't respect the fans, they aren't gonna get our respect for them.

<bad attitude>If we did that, there'd be like 10 people left.</ba>

Just my opinion here, but I don't think Ellen Burstyn is obligated to meet anyone, and I also don't think she's rude.
We can assume that most everyone attending this play is a fan of Ellen's. Suppose 50 of them wanted to meet her after the play?
A point to consider is that we live in an unsafe world. Celebrities are concerned with stalkers. It's a safety issue.
It's also a privacy issue. Ellen has her right to privacy. Bonnie Raitt sounds like a wonderful person who goes the extra mile, but just because she does it, that doesn't mean other celebrities should.
Sure, the fans make them famous, but we don't own them. If you see a play, movie, listen to a CD, you're getting what you paid for, and that doesn't include a meeting with the star.
I can't stand arrogant celebrities either...the ones that tell fans to take a hike when they request an autograph.
However, I don't think many big stars would accomodate a request to meet with fans.

Originally posted by jimmiegirl48
If celebrities don't want to meet their fans, they could at least be polite or come up with better excuses, because they lose fans w/unnecessary rudeness. I understand that they may not think they have to be their fans' best friends, but they shouldn't come right out and say that.
Did Ellen's rep say that? Unless you're referring to another celebrity, I think her rep gave a logical explanation as to why Ellen wouldn't meet with her.
I saw Brian Dennehy in the play, Death of a Salesman, two years ago. I would have loved to have met him backstage after the play, mostly everyone in the audience would have, but I know that rarely happens.
I bought my theater ticket, and he delivered a great performance. He owed me nothing more.

they are and I do mean this not be bragging in a nice way.but most actors are self absorbed, ego driven,money hungry self important people who forget that the public put them into their nice houses and having a fianancial security,I would write her as I have written actor who were rude to me or critics who have slammed people I care about.Those in a position of power somehow think there above everyone.Ellen burstyn is the last person that should walk around with her nose in the air she is doing a play in S.D for godsakes.Nothing person but S.D theatre isn't as prestigious as miss burstyn would like it to be.The whole character thing is to make her feel big and you to feel small.I would write to people magazine or any magazine and tell them your story.I'm serious if you are that dedicated and she blows you off you are the classy one!bravo to you.

I think that actors have a responsibility to their fans. They should take some time out for them as well as for their work and family. Sometimes though I think that actors get tired of being in the public eye. They ALL get both praise and criticisim. Maybe you caught her on a day when she had gotten some really rough comments. EVERYONE has a breaking point, we can't all be nice all the time. This is just like a discussion that came up on a Jarlena message board that I go to. You see, Dee Hall had a chat at her message board and she basically told this girl off. :lol: The girl really didn't do anything, Dee missunderstood her comment, she thought the girl was saying some really mean things about her, so Dee stuck up for herself. So now a few of Dee's fans are mad, and they say they aren't going to her fan luncheon. I don't get that at all, Dee just missunderstood what was said, that's all. And most likely they caught her on a bad day, frankly it made me admire Dee even more, because she sticks up for herself. Maybe Ellen was having a bad day, like I said everyone has a breaking point.

Maybe it's just Ellen's agents fault- or maybe she really is a J-Ho hybrid thingy prima-donna. Either way- make her look bad! I know this is pure evil for this- I know people with illnesses- but either: hire a wheelchair and wait when ellen's leaving, go to the door she's leaving at and (is a friend going- get her to wheel you) wheel your chair over with one hand with your arm out crying ellen, ellen, and if she doesn't come over then she's bad- if she does- well you still got to meet her. Then you can do either one of these two things if she does come over to you: just say hi, ask for autograph or: jump out of the chair and go "I, I can walk- and cry and hug ellen, she'll think she healed you or something, or you can jump up and just laugh, humiliating ellen but beocming in america's top ten worst ppl for faking a disability. Or you could just take an egg with you and fire it at her as she leaves. Or you could scream during the production and fake a blackout or a fit? I dunno- but definitely go- one person not going doesn't make a difference to her profits.