I have a LOOOONNNNGGGG list of boring sitcoms. With the exception of "I Love Lucy", sitcoms are just horrible. But, here is my top ten list of boring sitcoms and why:

1) "All in the Family" (sadly changed the course of television from bad to worse forever.)

2) "Archie Bunker's Place" (like watching a train accident with a muffled laugh track.)

3) "Maude" (like watching Ernest Borgnine in drag with radically liberal views)

4) "The Brady Bunch" (this is BBAAADDD TV at its best. No wonder Robert Reed was ashamed of it.)

5) "M*A*S*H*" (War is not funny, but is more funny than Alan Alda.)

6) "The Jeffersons" (why did this show run 11 years and why was no one at CBS into mercy killing at the time?)

7) "Friends" (this is the most over-rated, over-hyped show of all time. We'll look back on this show years from now and wonder what all the hub-bub was about.)

8) "Three's Company" (the worst scripts and the worst acting of all time. I give John Ritter the award for worst over-reactor of all-time.)

9) "Married: With Children" (an embarrassment to our society. The fact this show ran as long as it did proves that the average TV watcher has the IQ of a shoe horn.)

10) "Will & Grace" (Jack reinforces every negative stereotype of gay men there is. And Debra Messing - is it just me or is she painful to watch?)

You don't have a good sense of humor do you?

Wow, tough crowd...

Besides "I Love Lucy," what shows do you like Brenton?

I totally agree with you about The Brady Bunch, Friends, Three's Company, and Married, With Children. I think those shows are awful.

Anything with Andy Dick in it is horrible. Some of the Three's Company episodes (not all of them) were AWFUL. The best ones imo were when the Ropers were on.

Originally posted by shocolah
Anything with Andy Dick in it is horrible.

I love NewsRadio, but I agree about Andy Dick. He's a horrible and annoying actor, IMHO.

Brenton, you're not alone in your feelings about the shows you mentioned. Most of the ones on your list clearly helped slant America to the left with seriously liberal and unwholesome ideas (although we are so far gone now that many of you will be scratching your head at that statement).

Although Brady Bunch was silly, the one thing that separates it from the others on your list is that it's a show my kids can watch. I can't say that for any of the others. The Jeffersons wasn't too objectional, from my memory of it (I haven't watched it in reruns once since it originally aired), but the other eight definitely leaned heavily too the left!!!

B&W "I think there were good sitcoms in the 50's and 60's besides 'I Love Lucy' though" fan

Originally posted by Brenton
I have a LOOOONNNNGGGG list of boring sitcoms. With the exception of "I Love Lucy", sitcoms are just horrible. But, here is my top ten list of boring sitcoms and why:

1) "All in the Family" (sadly changed the course of television from bad to worse forever.)

2) "Archie Bunker's Place" (like watching a train accident with a muffled laugh track.)


I have never seen Archie on a boring TV list. And I rather like ABP.

And a BAAAADDD TV list without Beverly Hillbillies?? Ooookkkkk.

And believe it or not, there are sitcoms I like better than ILL.

Originally posted by Brenton
And Debra Messing - is it just me or is she painful to watch?)

It's just you:p :p

Originally posted by B&W fan
Most of the ones on your list clearly helped slant America to the left with seriously liberal and unwholesome ideas (although we are so far gone now that many of you will be scratching your head at that statement).
B&W "I think there were good sitcoms in the 50's and 60's besides 'I Love Lucy' though" fan

Gee, thanks for "enlightening" me B&W fan. Thanks to you, I learned that liberal TV is bad TV. (I guess that means conservative TV is good TV???) Silly me! I've been assessing a show's merit based on the quality of its writing and acting and its ability to entertain me!? :rolleyes:

You also taught me that anything liberal must also be unwholesome. Where does that place moderate views? Of course you wouldn't know about those. It seems your black-and-white viewing isn't restricted to television. (I can only guess what you're scratching right now.)

Originally posted by TVgen62


Gee, thanks for "enlightening" me B&W fan. Thanks to you, I learned that liberal TV is bad TV. (I guess that means conservative TV is good TV???) Silly me! I've been assessing a show's merit based on the quality of its writing and acting and its ability to entertain me!? :rolleyes:

You also taught me that anything liberal must also be unwholesome. Where does that place moderate views? Of course you wouldn't know about those. It seems your black-and-white viewing isn't restricted to television. (I can only guess what you're scratching right now.)

As I was saying, some folks just won't get it. Thanks for giving all of us a living example.

BTW, you err greatly when you assume too much from one, short post. I'm sure you immediately lept to your biased conclusions after seeing the hot button words "liberal" and "conservative." Well, just to make sure you know what I'm talking about, I'm referring to the moral climate and the Judeo-Christian concepts that our society had lived by for nearly 200 years.

All Eight of the shows I alluded to did indeed tear at the fabric of morality in this nation to one degree or another. I'm certainly not saying those shows didn't reflect the views of some, but they undoubtedly pushed the limits of the accepted morality of the majority at the time of their airing.

B&W "of course, this post isn't for you TVgen62, the mighty, self-assured scoffer that you are, but for the others who know what I'm talking about" fan

TVgen62, I find it interesting that we both frequent some of the same boards here, like some of the same shows (at least according to your profile list), and were born only a couple of years apart.

YET you chose to respond to my short and simple post on this subject with much venom, sarcasm and disrespect. Either you have a political burr under your saddle, or a religious one, or both. But whatever the reason, it's your problem and not mine.

To expand briefly on the shows in question without breaking all of them down, I'll say this:

1) Norman Lear was clearly "preaching" his self-proclaimed secular humanism to us in his shows. He has easily been one of the most "liberal", humanistic, anti-Christian TV producers of all time. This is not just one man's opinion, but is universally accepted as true, even by those that like him.

2) The shows in question glorify or at least condone many moral/social issues that are or at the time of their airing were considered immoral or questionable, such as - lying, drunkeness, adultery, sexual deviance, T&A to the max, disrespect for authority, etc. To deny this is utterly fruitless.

3) The really interesting thing here is that some of the shows you list as your favorites are what I would call "Family Friendly" shows that actually promote or at least portray the Judeo/Christian concepts of morality. Things like honesty, fidelity in marriage, courtesy, loyalty, and proper respect for authority.

B&W "you obviously have internal issues, but that's no reason to act like Al Bundy" fan

Please don't blame TV for society's moral decay. That's a cheap way out of not blaming parents for properly raising their children.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Please don't blame TV for society's moral decay. That's a cheap way out of not blaming parents for properly raising their children.

I agree. I'm tired of parents who don't discpline their kids and blame the entertainment industry when the kids screw up.

Originally posted by WingsFan


I agree. I'm tired of parents who don't discpline their kids and blame the entertainment industry when the kids screw up.

Actually, I agree completely with you. I don't have juvenille deliquents running around my house. And parents should shoulder the complete brunt of the responsibility for their kids. That said, I actually lay a huge portion of the responsibility for moral decay in society at the Church's doorstep. But that doesn't negate the influence of Hollywood.

It is naive to think that the entertainment media doesn't have an effect on kids and adults. TV is a powerful force, perhaps greater than some realize.

B&W "amazing how people read more into posts than is there. I never said or even implied that TV is soley to blame, but surely you must admit that it contributes" fan

Originally posted by WingsFan


I agree. I'm tired of parents who don't discpline their kids and blame the entertainment industry when the kids screw up.

Yeah, ditto.

Okay, let me take a look again.

1) "All in the Family" (sadly changed the course of television from bad to worse forever.) Yeah, I love this show.

2) "Archie Bunker's Place" (like watching a train accident with a muffled laugh track.) I like this one too.

3) "Maude" (like watching Ernest Borgnine in drag with radically liberal views) I loved Maude's appearances on AITF, but I wasn't really fond of Maude's show.

4) "The Brady Bunch" (this is BBAAADDD TV at its best. No wonder Robert Reed was ashamed of it.) I can stomach in small quantities. If you forced me to watch it all day, I would prob. go insane. I'm not a die hard fan, not really a fan at all.

5) "M*A*S*H*" (War is not funny, but is more funny than Alan Alda.) I never could make it through a full episode. The laugh track got on my nerves.

6) "The Jeffersons" (why did this show run 11 years and why was no one at CBS into mercy killing at the time?) When we're dealing with the first Lionel, we still have a good show. When the first one left, the show went in the dumper.

7) "Friends" (this is the most over-rated, over-hyped show of all time. We'll look back on this show years from now and wonder what all the hub-bub was about.) Yeah, everybody knows my 2 cents about this show. Why should I repeat myself?

8) "Three's Company" (the worst scripts and the worst acting of all time. I give John Ritter the award for worst over-reactor of all-time.) I would seriously watch this show more if it was on earlier.

9) "Married: With Children" (an embarrassment to our society. The fact this show ran as long as it did proves that the average TV watcher has the IQ of a shoe horn.) I used to watch this show when I was a kid, haven't watched it lately.

10) "Will & Grace" (Jack reinforces every negative stereotype of gay men there is. And Debra Messing - is it just me or is she painful to watch?) Never really watched it.


Okay, you see my opinion next to each show. I don't find Archie Bunker boring. I know some people tune in and see the show and see Archie and Mike yelling. Archie yelling to Edith. Mike and Gloria having marital spats. I have to admit the show was pretty realistic. I would compare my family to the Bunkers. My father is Archie. My mother is Edith and I am Gloria. I haven't found a Meathead yet, but yeah.

We're talking about two different kinds of genres in a way. The old shows from the 50s and 60s are very fun to watch, but they aren't really that realistic. I watch Leave it to Beaver and realize that Mayfield will only exist in the minds of the viewers. This world has gone in the toilet and all the Mayfields have ceased to exist. You look at All in the Family and you see a family dealing with realistic situations. The 70s is in the past now, but that show is still dealing with the kind of stuff that we go through in 2003. The show is not dated.

I guess to sum it up. If you like 50s and 60s shows, better stick to watching them. I'm surprised we even have sitcoms left thanks to all the reality game shows we have.

Originally posted by B&W fan




B&W "amazing how people read more into posts than is there. I never said or even implied that TV is soley to blame, but surely you must admit that it contributes" fan

Sorry, I forgot to quote this in my last post. I've been a member of this board for quite a few years. I won't list my favorite shows, but I grew up with all kinds of shows. Never did I go out and do something ******** because I witnessed a character on my favorite show do it. If you are that easily swayed by a tv show, you got issues. Your parents maybe didn't explain what was right and what was wrong to you.

Seriously, if parents would actually take little Junior and explain to him when he was a kid what was right and wrong maybe Junior won't grow up to be a drug addict or whatever.

Originally posted by Jenny


Sorry, I forgot to quote this in my last post. I've been a member of this board for quite a few years. I won't list my favorite shows, but I grew up with all kinds of shows. Never did I go out and do something ******** because I witnessed a character on my favorite show do it. If you are that easily swayed by a tv show, you got issues. Your parents maybe didn't explain what was right and what was wrong to you.

Seriously, if parents would actually take little Junior and explain to him when he was a kid what was right and wrong maybe Junior won't grow up to be a drug addict or whatever.

Jenny, I'm anything but a drug dealer or addict. I have a fine standing in my community. Never been in jail, never even been in trouble with any law officer.

My parents were Christians, as am I, and to be frank I'm quite sure I know right from wrong (perhaps you don't although you think you do). Sounds to me like you have the issues, starting with a serious lack of discernment!

It's been well documented that what we watch and listen to has an effect on us. That's undisputable. Why do you think companies just spent millions on Super Bowl ads? Because they know those ads have an effect!

I'm not saying if you watch some slasher flick that you're gonna go cut someone up. But to continually watch shows that promote the poor moral and social values I mentioned earlier can lead to a wearing or watering down of values. Even you yourself said the world has gone to pot. Think about it, Jenny!

B&W "enough of this waste of time. Some of you get it, some of you don't" fan

My parents instilled me with strong values, and I like to think I have grown to be a good person.

I have been watching TV for as long as I can remember, watching probably all of the shows mentioned on this thread. My values haven't changed.

Television is entertainment. That's what it was designed to do.
It was never intended to become a babysitter or a substitute parent or a role model.
People who look to it for guidence as to how to live thier lives should look elsewhere...

Originally posted by TJL
My parents instilled me with strong values, and I like to think I have grown to be a good person.

I have been watching TV for as long as I can remember, watching probably all of the shows mentioned on this thread. My values haven't changed.

Television is entertainment. That's what it was designed to do.
It was never intended to become a babysitter or a substitute parent or a role model.
People who look to it for guidence as to how to live thier lives should look elsewhere...

Thank you, TJL. You said it much better than I did. If what I said above confused anybody, TJL's post is right along the lines of what I was getting at.

Originally posted by Brenton
I have a LOOOONNNNGGGG list of boring sitcoms. With the exception of "I Love Lucy", sitcoms are just horrible. But, here is my top ten list of boring sitcoms and why:

Wow!!!

My list is almost like yours, Brenton, except I happen to like (make that LOVE) The Brady Bunch. A family that works together to solve each other's problems is what should be on television. I haven't seen or heard enough of M*A*S*H and The Jeffersons to include them on my list.

My list also has the following:

The Simpsons: That show should have ended years ago if you ask me. :sleep2:

WWE Smackdown!: Since when did wrestling become part of prime-time viewing? :eek:

Beverly Hills, 90210: I disliked this show mostly because it was in the same time slot as The Wonder Years (a show that ended way too soon). :mad:

Just about anything on MTV or HBO qualifies for my list as well.

Originally posted by B&W fan
B&W "enough of this waste of time. Some of you get it, some of you don't" fan

Brian "B&W fan obviously doesn't get it" Damage

The Worst Shows Of All Time (in my opinion)are:


Full House(Loved it when i was a kid but its just awful)
Petticoat Junction
Just Shoot Me
Who's The Boss?(I admit that I still watch it from time to time but its pretty bad; see Full House)
Good Morning Miami(I thought it was going to excellent and the pilot didnt disapoint; but evrey other episode has been worse the watching paint dry; I hopr it turns around cause I really ike the setting and think the ansumble is Ok)

:-)

I agree with you on all of your shows exept all in the family. I 100% agree on you with friends. What is the big deal with this show?? Reasons why it is rated like it is.

1) It's on must see tv thursday and whatever is on thurday on NBC becomes a hit.

2) Because of stupid teenagers, you here them in the audience go "aww racheal" which gets really annoying.

I say this because the fans are what make critics change there mind. The only fans I know of are mostly teenagers. Or in there early 20's. Do you remember before this show came out?? Critics hated it!!! sry to all your friends fans this is just my opinion.

Originally posted by orourkefan12
The only fans I know of are mostly teenagers. Or in there early 20's.

Like my 14 year old cousin. She's obsessed with the show.

I have a LOOOONNNNGGGG list of boring sitcoms. With the exception of "I Love Lucy", sitcoms are just horrible. But, here is my top ten list of boring sitcoms and why:

1) "All in the Family" (sadly changed the course of television from bad to worse forever.)

2) "Archie Bunker's Place" (like watching a train accident with a muffled laugh track.)

3) "Maude" (like watching Ernest Borgnine in drag with radically liberal views)

4) "The Brady Bunch" (this is BBAAADDD TV at its best. No wonder Robert Reed was ashamed of it.)

5) "M*A*S*H*" (War is not funny, but is more funny than Alan Alda.)

6) "The Jeffersons" (why did this show run 11 years and why was no one at CBS into mercy killing at the time?)

7) "Friends" (this is the most over-rated, over-hyped show of all time. We'll look back on this show years from now and wonder what all the hub-bub was about.)

8) "Three's Company" (the worst scripts and the worst acting of all time. I give John Ritter the award for worst over-reactor of all-time.)

9) "Married: With Children" (an embarrassment to our society. The fact this show ran as long as it did proves that the average TV watcher has the IQ of a shoe horn.)

10) "Will & Grace" (Jack reinforces every negative stereotype of gay men there is. And Debra Messing - is it just me or is she painful to watch?)


I agree with you on Mash, Friends, Threes Company. I hate all of those shows

I like every one of those shows except Mash and Will & Grace.

I have a LOOOONNNNGGGG list of boring sitcoms. With the exception of "I Love Lucy", sitcoms are just horrible. But, here is my top ten list of boring sitcoms and why:

1) "All in the Family" (sadly changed the course of television from bad to worse forever.)

2) "Archie Bunker's Place" (like watching a train accident with a muffled laugh track.)

3) "Maude" (like watching Ernest Borgnine in drag with radically liberal views)

4) "The Brady Bunch" (this is BBAAADDD TV at its best. No wonder Robert Reed was ashamed of it.)

5) "M*A*S*H*" (War is not funny, but is more funny than Alan Alda.)

6) "The Jeffersons" (why did this show run 11 years and why was no one at CBS into mercy killing at the time?)

7) "Friends" (this is the most over-rated, over-hyped show of all time. We'll look back on this show years from now and wonder what all the hub-bub was about.)

8) "Three's Company" (the worst scripts and the worst acting of all time. I give John Ritter the award for worst over-reactor of all-time.)

9) "Married: With Children" (an embarrassment to our society. The fact this show ran as long as it did proves that the average TV watcher has the IQ of a shoe horn.)

10) "Will & Grace" (Jack reinforces every negative stereotype of gay men there is. And Debra Messing - is it just me or is she painful to watch?)

#2, 8, and 10 are okay...the sitcom I hate the most is #4...I really loathe The Brady Bunch!