I have depression and i take paxil for it but i think my dad makes my depression worse. The paxil works just fine all day but sometimes my dad gets in bitchy moods when i ask him something or make a mistake he totally blows up, chews me out, insults me, tries to make me feel stupid, makes up crap thats not true and hes not just cranky but he gets flatout MEAN..when hes done w/ his crap i usually go and cry and even when im over it i'm depressed and crying over nothing for the rest of the day or until i take more paxil. Then when he calms down he acts like hes soooooo innocent and 1 time he said that he promised he'd never get mad when i ask a question...well a few nites ago he told me to set the table and while i was doin it i asked why i hafta set it every nite and he chewed me out again and went on about how i dont wanna help out and refuse to do what im told. I go to a counselor every month just to check on things and this time i am so gonna tell her about this cuz hes wrecking my life alot more than he thinks he is..

I'm sorry to hear about your problems. Have you tried telling your father how you feel?

I have depression too. I'm taking prozac and clonazepam for it. I have to go see a psychiatrist soon, I hate it. They make you talk about things you don't want to.


I hope things get better for you Sarah. I know it sucks getting chewed at for doing nothing wrong.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
I have depression and i take paxil for it but i think my dad makes my depression worse. The paxil works just fine all day but sometimes my dad gets in bitchy moods when i ask him something or make a mistake he totally blows up, chews me out, insults me, tries to make me feel stupid, makes up crap thats not true and hes not just cranky but he gets flatout MEAN..when hes done w/ his crap i usually go and cry and even when im over it i'm depressed and crying over nothing for the rest of the day or until i take more paxil. Then when he calms down he acts like hes soooooo innocent and 1 time he said that he promised he'd never get mad when i ask a question...well a few nites ago he told me to set the table and while i was doin it i asked why i hafta set it every nite and he chewed me out again and went on about how i dont wanna help out and refuse to do what im told. I go to a counselor every month just to check on things and this time i am so gonna tell her about this cuz hes wrecking my life alot more than he thinks he is..
:( Im sorry Sarah. :hug: Im sure he doesnt mean to do this on purpose. Tell your councilor. Im sure she'll have a talk with him and tell him how it affects you. Im sure once he finds out it hurts you, he'll change his ways.

(The Shrink is coming out of me....)

Okay. It may not be the answer you want to hear, but have you ever thought that your dad may be having problems too? I, personally, am....beyond depressed. I believe there is no word whatsoever to describe me. My parents/family are not the cause of it, but they certainly do not help. I believe your mother died recently? Anytime he [your dad] blows up, think about how hard things are at this time for him, also. Granted, depressed people are very fragile and it's not good to yell at them, we need to take into consideration the problems of the people surrounding us, also. Trust me, I've been through this a thousand times with shrinks, and at first you think 'How can they sit there and yell at me like that!' but in the long run, you'll come to find out that the people who surround you each day may not have as bad problems as you do, but sometimes they struggle too. Well, I wish you the best of luck.

-Kay

Im lucky, my sister is an R.N. When I said I wanted to see if prozac worked for me, but I wasnt going to talk to anyone (because i dont like explaining myself), the doctor she works for gave me a quick few minute check over and gave me a script. He's one of those types that just believes in the power of medicine to heal, so he didnt give me any crap :)
I noticed the difference in days - first it was just a buzz like i didnt feel anything, then after a week or two, I was happy instead of being depressed for no reason.
I have some of the same probs though, my moms a self-centered abusive type. It makes her feel like she has a lot of influence over people if she can gripe, whine, and complain until they feel like crap. There's just nothing you can do with a person like that but realize you cant change them and they get off on what they're doing. Must be one of those "bad attention is attention" things.
Sometimes the best way to deal with them is to play along with them.
Always agree, shake your head and say yes, do what they want - then walk away and silently do whatever it is you want to do in the first place.
This can really work good in some instances - just drives that type of person nuts <G>

Originally posted by Miss Karly
(The Shrink is coming out of me....)

Okay. It may not be the answer you want to hear, but have you ever thought that your dad may be having problems too? I, personally, am....beyond depressed. I believe there is no word whatsoever to describe me. My parents/family are not the cause of it, but they certainly do not help. I believe your mother died recently? Anytime he [your dad] blows up, think about how hard things are at this time for him, also. Granted, depressed people are very fragile and it's not good to yell at them, we need to take into consideration the problems of the people surrounding us, also. Trust me, I've been through this a thousand times with shrinks, and at first you think 'How can they sit there and yell at me like that!' but in the long run, you'll come to find out that the people who surround you each day may not have as bad problems as you do, but sometimes they struggle too. Well, I wish you the best of luck.

-Kay
That was put together very nicely. Yes, going through a death, especially someone THAT close to the family can be very tough on everyone. He's probably still thinking about it everyday. Ive never had to go through a loss like that, or any death really for that matter (except pets..which is still beyond sad), which for me has its highs and its lows. Im almost 19 years old and have never had to go through anything traumatic. I consider myself lucky, but I try to think how I would cope with something like that when it did hit me. Would I cry? Would I become depressed? I dont know, but I do know that Im gonna have to find out the hard way sooner or later.

I also have depression. But nobody knows about it except for a few people that I can trust...well now all you do, but I can trust you guys. Right? I can't trust my parents, with anything. I never have trusted them and I never will. So because of that, I don't take anything. But I'm always either in my room or out someplace. I actully look forward to school sometimes. Hard to believe. But I actully do. But like I said, I'm always to myself. I find that helps a lot actully. But it may be what helps is doing a lot of what you like to do. And that I do. It helps. But then again, I don't neccessarly like being alone. There's just nobody where I live that I can trust and love for real.

I hope this doesnt come out the wrong way, because I mean nothing offending by it, but I never knew so many people were depressed. Maybe its because I always seem to be all bubbly and optimistic I dont notice how others around me are acting. To me, I had always thought depressed people were suicidal and never had a good thing to say. Thats just a stereotype, because I never knew any of you were depressed, and to tell you the truth, I never would have guessed by the way you talk on the boards. Ahh.. anyways.. hope that didnt come out mean or anything, I was just stating what I had observed.

Ugh, Sarah I'm sorry. There's nothing worse then being depressed and having your family make it all worse, seeing as how you spend the majority of your time with them....

Right now I'm "taking" (well, I haven't been for the last 5 days for reasons that I would rather left unsaid) Effexor for my depression and anxiety disorder... I don't think I know anybody else on it but whatever. *shrugs*

And, all that Kay said.... so true.

Again I'm sorry Sarah... I know, to a lesser extent than some, but I know what its like to have the family get under your skin when you're like this...

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
I hope this doesnt come out the wrong way, because I mean nothing offending by it, but I never knew so many people were depressed. Maybe its because I always seem to be all bubbly and optimistic I dont notice how others around me are acting. To me, I had always thought depressed people were suicidal and never had a good thing to say. Thats just a stereotype, because I never knew any of you were depressed, and to tell you the truth, I never would have guessed by the way you talk on the boards. Ahh.. anyways.. hope that didnt come out mean or anything, I was just stating what I had observed.

Well, in real life, I sincerely hope you never do run into me, cause I can guarantee you, I will have nothing good to say. Maybe it's because it's online, and I don't know you personally? You'd never guess the way I am in real life. And no Crystal, it wasn't mean at all! I never knew some people here were depressed either

Ah, another Paxil user. Welcome to the addicts club. I seriously cannot function without that stuff. It's the only thing that keeps me in class. I wouldn't go otherwise. I used to be afraid to get out of my car.

And my dad is acting like an ass too. Okay, first of all he doesn't understand my anxiety/depression and he never will. Just because he never lets anything bother him doesn't mean we all can do that. SOB...the other day he relentlessly made fun of me because I screamed when I saw a spider. When it pissed me off, he had no idea why.

And my aunt is living with us now. My dad doesn't like her too well because she cost him a lot of money (it's a long story and not all her fault though he won't admit that). Anyway, in his stupid little way, he was treating her (or should I say is) treating her like ****...not talking, making rude comments...being an *******. So the other day it pissed me off so much that I flat out told him. I was sitting in the backseat of our Blazer crying and he acts like he was the one being violated. GDSOB!!

*deep breath* The Dr. gave me the Paxil for anxiety, but I really don't think it's the world's greatest depression drug. I'm so depressed about what the hell I'm gonna do with my life I just wanna cry. I can sit thru class, but I'm still slightly depressed. And no one understands...NO ONE.

Originally posted by Miss Karly
(The Shrink is coming out of me....)

Okay. It may not be the answer you want to hear, but have you ever thought that your dad may be having problems too? I, personally, am....beyond depressed. I believe there is no word whatsoever to describe me. My parents/family are not the cause of it, but they certainly do not help. I believe your mother died recently? Anytime he [your dad] blows up, think about how hard things are at this time for him, also. Granted, depressed people are very fragile and it's not good to yell at them, we need to take into consideration the problems of the people surrounding us, also. Trust me, I've been through this a thousand times with shrinks, and at first you think 'How can they sit there and yell at me like that!' but in the long run, you'll come to find out that the people who surround you each day may not have as bad problems as you do, but sometimes they struggle too. Well, I wish you the best of luck.

-Kay
Thanx. I noticed hes been acted like that alot since my mom passed away, that might be why.

A few months ago i posted a topic called "i hate this world", im not THAT depressed now. I was crying and feeling really depressed that whole day cuz we decided to see how it went if i went a day w/o the paxil and it didnt go good lol...my dad looked up stuff about paxil after that and it said that 10% of ppl that take it get addicted to it, meaning that if they just stop taking it 1 day they would be really depressed and apparently that applies to me.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
I hope this doesnt come out the wrong way, because I mean nothing offending by it, but I never knew so many people were depressed. Maybe its because I always seem to be all bubbly and optimistic I dont notice how others around me are acting. To me, I had always thought depressed people were suicidal and never had a good thing to say. Thats just a stereotype, because I never knew any of you were depressed, and to tell you the truth, I never would have guessed by the way you talk on the boards. Ahh.. anyways.. hope that didnt come out mean or anything, I was just stating what I had observed.

I was sort of shocked that we had quite a few people here that are depressed (Who knows if there will be more seeing as how this is only the 11 post). I knew for sure about some people but others... *shakes head* Its new to me.

Ok, for me.... the boards serve me the purpose of "getting away". How cheesy that sounds.... but, there's people here you never met so they dont see the real da-to-day you.. they only know you through how to right... *shrugs* For me laughing at what I write/read here is a hell of a lot easier than laughing at home or at school.

And yeah, some depressed people are sucidal and have nothing positive to say but... *shrugs* we won't get into what happened last here on the boards with that...

Originally posted by Miss Karly


Well, in real life, I sincerely hope you never do run into me, cause I can guarantee you, I will have nothing good to say. Maybe it's because it's online, and I don't know you personally? You'd never guess the way I am in real life. And no Crystal, it wasn't mean at all! I never knew some people here were depressed either
Yah.. that could be it. Im sure everyone acts differently on the boards. Here, I reply to just about everything and talk to some people from the boards all the time online. But, I can gaurantee, if I ever met someone from here face to face.. Id be the shyest person ever! Im so shy and quiet! It takes me a long time to open up and feel comfortable to new people. Yah.. also here Im more apt to speak my mind and defend myself and my friends. In the real world Id just be standing there in shock too scared to say anything!:crazy:

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
I hope this doesnt come out the wrong way, because I mean nothing offending by it, but I never knew so many people were depressed. Maybe its because I always seem to be all bubbly and optimistic I dont notice how others around me are acting. To me, I had always thought depressed people were suicidal and never had a good thing to say. Thats just a stereotype, because I never knew any of you were depressed, and to tell you the truth, I never would have guessed by the way you talk on the boards. Ahh.. anyways.. hope that didnt come out mean or anything, I was just stating what I had observed.

I didn't either, Crystal. I thought I was the only one. I'd go to school and watch all these people who were always happy and extroverted and I thought I was crazy.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
A few months ago i posted a topic called "i hate this world", im not THAT depressed now. I was crying and feeling really depressed that whole day cuz we decided to see how it went if i went a day w/o the paxil and it didnt go good lol...my dad looked up stuff about paxil after that and it said that 10% of ppl that take it get addicted to it, meaning that if they just stop taking it 1 day they would be really depressed and apparently that applies to me.

I stopped taking it one day because I ran out and it made me sick/dizzy. Maybe we're in the same boat.

I wanna know why that stuff is so damn expensive!

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

That was put together very nicely.

Thank you. :) I think I'm going to become a child psychologist so I can help people.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
A few months ago i posted a topic called "i hate this world", im not THAT depressed now. I was crying and feeling really depressed that whole day cuz we decided to see how it went if i went a day w/o the paxil and it didnt go good lol...my dad looked up stuff about paxil after that and it said that 10% of ppl that take it get addicted to it, meaning that if they just stop taking it 1 day they would be really depressed and apparently that applies to me.

Ugh, geez. Ok, my shrink-lady whatever the hell you wanna call her prescribed me with the harshest kind of meds... so, if you skip a day you feel HORRIBLE. Mentally and physically.... well, the first day I skipped it... I threw up, my back felt like it was going to break, slept the whole day and had a temper smaller than an ant.... locked myself in my room and cried the whole entire day. (no I did not have my period)... it was so bad. I've been off for 5 days.... imagine me now. Its so bad.

Im so sorry you're having such a rough time with your dad and I hope things get better for you. :(
I kind of know where you're coming from because I had depression a few years ago, i also have a thing called cyclothyroidism which sometimes makes me more prone to that kind of depression/anxiety stuff. But Im a lot better now.
During one of those bad times my dad would sometimes say stuff that would get me really upset, I realize now that a lot of the time he didnt mean to be like that or I took it totally the wrong way. Same with my mother- our personalities clash a lot of the time and she'd say things that she didnt mean as being what I took them as and I'd cry over that for days on end. Remember that your dad probably doesnt mean to be hurting you like he is.

Originally posted by Miss Karly
Thank you. :) I think I'm going to become a child psychologist so I can help people.

That's good. You'd have a better chance of knowing where they're coming from.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


I stopped taking it one day because I ran out and it made me sick/dizzy. Maybe we're in the same boat.

I wanna know why that stuff is so damn expensive!

OMG! My mom told me how much it was without medical insurance.... she told me and was like, "And you better take them everyday and they sure as hell must make you feel better cuz this is good money here...." she made me feel guilty actually.... now, *shrugs* I dont care. I'm not paying for em. :p

Originally posted by Silver Daze
I have depression too. I'm taking prozac and clonazepam for it. I have to go see a psychiatrist soon, I hate it. They make you talk about things you don't want to.




That's what I really need to do. I used to be depressed just about everyday of my life. Things kind of got a bit better around my sophomore year. I'd have my 'happy' days and then I'd have my days where I just felt like locking myself in my room and just staring at the wall.

My problem is I don't talk about my problems. I feel uncomfortable talking about my problems to my parents and I talk very little about my problems with my friends. I push everything into a bottle, basically. I never let go of that bottle. I'll never open that bottle until I'm alone. When I open that bottle, I can cry freely and I know I'll never have to explain my actions to anybody else.

When my grandpa died in 1995, I didn't show any emotion at the funeral. I waited until I was by myself to cry about it. His death was confusing to me- considering I was 10 or 11 at the time. My grandfather seemed like he was in a happy mood all the time. I never could grasp why he died the way he did. Was he just like me? Did he put on a smiley face for everybody else, but crash and burn on the inside?

I told my mom that I need some depression medicine and she just told me that I had to drag myself out of that mood. I can drag myself out- sometimes. It just seems like when I see the light, I fall back into the hole. I crawl back up to the light and I fall again.

Ive never been truly depressed, but every once in a while I slip into those poor me, sulk stages for about a day. The only thing I would like to see a councilor for, is helping me what to decide what to do with my life!! I have NO modivation, NO desire whatsoever to go to college, and I still dont know what the hell I truly want to do with my life-- and constantly getting asked "What school you going to?" pisses me off to no end. I never truly say all that I want to say to friends, and I dont open up to my family- Im a quiet person, I keep to myself. No one knows how I TRULY feel about things, because I dont open up. Ugh, I also have THE lowest self confidence and am always worried about what people are thinking about me. o0o.. Im also extremly paraniod. Im always tense. Also, when we go to restaurants, I have to sit on the certain side of the booth where Im facing the other people.. I cant have my back against everyone- it makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. In school, I had to have the end row-- nothing the the middle. It made me feel lost and the center of attention. I have no idea if there is any medication for paranoia.. Im sure there is.

Originally posted by Babes_Cat
OMG! My mom told me how much it was without medical insurance.... she told me and was like, "And you better take them everyday and they sure as hell must make you feel better cuz this is good money here...." she made me feel guilty actually.... now, *shrugs* I dont care. I'm not paying for em. :p

That's me...girl with no insurance. $88. :p Oh well, mom and dad would rather pay for them than have me refuse to go to school.

Originally posted by Jenny


My problem is I don't talk about my problems. I feel uncomfortable talking about my problems to my parents and I talk very little about my problems with my friends. I push everything into a bottle, basically. I never let go of that bottle. I'll never open that bottle until I'm alone. When I open that bottle, I can cry freely and I know I'll never have to explain my actions to anybody else.



Its never easy talking to anyone that you feel close to cuz you fear about how they will judge you after they know all the facts... my relationship with one of my very close friends drastically changed from where it was at last year once she found out all about "me".

Originally posted by Jenny


That's what I really need to do. I used to be depressed just about everyday of my life. Things kind of got a bit better around my sophomore year. I'd have my 'happy' days and then I'd have my days where I just felt like locking myself in my room and just starting at the wall.



Ugh yes..... I get those so often... but for me, its more like a "high" 10 mins and a "low" hour or so.... *sighs* Life is screwed...

Originally posted by dawsongirl


That's me...girl with no insurance. $88. :p Oh well, mom and dad would rather pay for them than have me refuse to go to school.

True..... yeah, mine was like.... "WOAH THERE!" Nothings cheap anymore....

Originally posted by Jenny
I told my mom that I need some depression medicine and she just told me that I had to drag myself out of that mood. I can drag myself out- sometimes. It just seems like when I see the light, I fall back into the hole. I crawl back up to the light and I fall again.

That sounds like my dad. There is no crawling out of that hole. Sometimes you just can't do it alone.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


I stopped taking it one day because I ran out and it made me sick/dizzy.
It made me so dizzy 1 time i actually fainted. It happens from standing up fast and when i start to feel dizzy i lean over til it goes away.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne

It made me so dizzy 1 time i actually fainted. It happens from standing up fast and when i start to feel dizzy i lean over til it goes away.

Yeah....... I used to/get dizzy spells all the time.... from a combination of meds and CFS.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
I have no idea if there is any medication for paranoia.. Im sure there is.

Paxil might. I used to be paranoid to go to stores alone and now I do it with no problem.

Originally posted by Jenny
My problem is I don't talk about my problems. I feel uncomfortable talking about my problems to my parents and I talk very little about my problems with my friends. I push everything into a bottle, basically. I never let go of that bottle. I'll never open that bottle until I'm alone. When I open that bottle, I can cry freely and I know I'll never have to explain my actions to anybody else.



:wave: That's me. I've got...*counts on fingers* 2 people I can trust. And neither are blood related. Problem? One is moving on with her life- more power to her. The other (who has...helped me beyond belief and is now considered my second mother) just doesn't seem to notice how bad I am anymore. And well.....I just don't WANT to talk to anyone anymore, cause well, I'm in that 'I don't care about anything anymore' phase.

Originally posted by Jenny
I didn't show any emotion at the funeral. I waited until I was by myself to cry about it.
o0o.. thats EXACTLY how I am. All of my friends, and even my parents say they have never seen my cry. And they havent (well, crying over a scabbed knee @ 5 is nothing). They all say I have a heart of stone lol. Thing is.. I dont cry. The last time I truly had a good cry was when my dog died. Yah.. that was in 5th grade- I was 11. Im almost 19. Thats pretty sad. There are days when all I wanna do is cry, but I just....cant. The only things that would make my eyes water would be watching a Wonder Years episode or watching the Discovery Channel.. nothing truly emotional or close to me. I have no idea why that is. I have this thing, where I cannot cry in public- I refuse to shed a tear for anyone to see. My eyes will water.. but Ill hold them back for dear life. I dont know if its because it shows how weak I am, but I never try to prove myself as being strong, because I know Im not. Its weird..

Originally posted by Babes_Cat
Its never easy talking to anyone that you feel close to cuz you fear about how they will judge you after they know all the facts... my relationship with one of my very close friends drastically changed from where it was at last year once she found out all about "me".

Before I knew what was wrong, I'd do things that my friends thought were bitchy when I was just trying to cope. Those losers aren't my friends anymore due to that. They wouldn't understand anyway.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Before I knew what was wrong, I'd do things that my friends thought were bitchy when I was just trying to cope. Those losers aren't my friends anymore due to that. They wouldn't understand anyway.

Yeah, well.... my "depression/anxiety/suicidal thoughts" whatever the hell it is... ok get this... It all got me "shunned" from one of my friends cuz her mom thought I would rub off on her daughter. Ok, yeah that makes sense.... the mother is worried and all but what ticks me off is that the lady is a friggen pediatrician and sees stuff like this all the time, knows how to handle it... blows my mind.... *sighs* anyways, :wave: night y'all. Midterms start tomorrow and I need to hurry my ass up and study.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Paxil might. I used to be paranoid to go to stores alone and now I do it with no problem.
o0o.. I have no problem doing things by myself, although I do prefer to go with a good friend. Thing I hate is being surrounded by people. Like, Id rather go to the movies by myself or with my best friend, then to go with ALL of my friends.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

o0o.. I have no problem doing things by myself, although I do prefer to go with a good friend. Thing I hate is being surrounded by people. Like, Id rather go to the movies by myself or with my best friend, then to go with ALL of my friends.

Social anxiety. Paxil is supposed to cure that, honest.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
I have NO modivation, NO desire whatsoever to go to college, and I still dont know what the hell I truly want to do with my life-- and constantly getting asked "What school you going to?" pisses me off to no end.

Yeah. I don't want to go to college. I had the chance to go, but I turned it down.

I've always wanted to be a writer. This is the bad thing with me. I'll write stories and think they are so good and then I start putting myself down. You think these stories are good? You're crazy. The only thing this would be good for is lining the bottom of a trashcan. You have nothing. You don't have talent. I start thinking about that so much that I convince myself that the stories suck. It doesn't matter how many times someone says that they like my stories. I'll say thank you, but I'll still have this part of my mind saying that the stories still suck. It's like an endless cycle of telling myself that I have no talent.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Social anxiety. Paxil is supposed to cure that, honest.
Yah.. I kinda figured that. Thing is, I dont want to go on medication. I dont want to have to depend on it. Nothing wrong withi t.. my mother is on it.. but I dont think, for me, its to the point where I need it. For me, the worst thing I need to deal with is my confidence (I have NONE whatsoever), and my paranoia.

Originally posted by Jenny

I didn't show any emotion at the funeral. I waited until I was by myself to cry about it.
I didnt show ne at my moms funeral either. I was sad but i didnt cry.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Ive never been truly depressed, but every once in a while I slip into those poor me, sulk stages for about a day. The only thing I would like to see a councilor for, is helping me what to decide what to do with my life!! I have NO modivation, NO desire whatsoever to go to college, and I still dont know what the hell I truly want to do with my life-- and constantly getting asked "What school you going to?" pisses me off to no end. I never truly say all that I want to say to friends, and I dont open up to my family- Im a quiet person, I keep to myself. No one knows how I TRULY feel about things, because I dont open up. Ugh, I also have THE lowest self confidence and am always worried about what people are thinking about me. o0o.. Im also extremly paraniod. Im always tense. Also, when we go to restaurants, I have to sit on the certain side of the booth where Im facing the other people.. I cant have my back against everyone- it makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. In school, I had to have the end row-- nothing the the middle. It made me feel lost and the center of attention. I have no idea if there is any medication for paranoia.. Im sure there is. Crytsal I"m like that to I get MAJOR anxiety attacks when I meet new people IRL I get all shakey and HECK MY voice even cracks You'd think being 30 I'd get over the shyness but I dont I mean I can talk to my FRIENDS, and family and stuff but new people just totally scare me I"ve always been that way I guess

I was born really shy too but its been going away thruout the years. I can talk to ppl i dont know but i usually just talk when im spoken to or asked somethin.

Another thing I have a problem with, is saying "Im sorry." Sure, its easy to say when you accidently bump into someone, but one it comes to a fight or anything else.. I cant say it. For some reason, saying Im sorry just makes me want to cringe. I cant even do it online!!

Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
Crytsal I"m like that to I get MAJOR anxiety attacks when I meet new people IRL I get all shakey and HECK MY voice even cracks You'd think being 30 I'd get over the shyness but I dont I mean I can talk to my FRIENDS, and family and stuff but new people just totally scare me I"ve always been that way I guess
Ah! Me too. When someone asks me something.. I have to clear my throat first, other wise you cant hear me!

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Another thing I have a problem with, is saying "Im sorry." Sure, its easy to say when you accidently bump into someone, but one it comes to a fight or anything else.. I cant say it. For some reason, saying Im sorry just makes me want to cringe. I cant even do it online!!

Yeah, I know.... the only person who I can say it to (and honestly mean it) is my bff....

Originally posted by Miss Karly


Yeah, I know.... the only person who I can say it to (and honestly mean it) is my bff....
Ugh.. I cant even say it to my best friend.

Or, if someone dies, like my friends friend, or their relative.. I STILL cant say sorry. I dont know why! I just kinda pout and frown..

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

Ugh.. I cant even say it to my best friend.

Or, if someone dies, like my friends friend, or their relative.. I STILL cant say sorry. I dont know why! I just kinda pout and frown..

Let's put it this way- someone needs to have a ****load of value to me for me to mean 'sorry'

As for deaths, etc, I'll usually frown or go 'awwww'

Originally posted by Jenny
Yeah. I don't want to go to college. I had the chance to go, but I turned it down.

I've always wanted to be a writer. This is the bad thing with me. I'll write stories and think they are so good and then I start putting myself down. You think these stories are good? You're crazy. The only thing this would be good for is lining the bottom of a trashcan. You have nothing. You don't have talent. I start thinking about that so much that I convince myself that the stories suck. It doesn't matter how many times someone says that they like my stories. I'll say thank you, but I'll still have this part of my mind saying that the stories still suck. It's like an endless cycle of telling myself that I have no talent.

Have you ever considered taking an online writing course? I've been in college for 4.5 years and the only classes I've had any interest in were the creative writing ones. But trust me, they help. I've become a much better writer just from English 304 to 404 (those are the 2 classes I took).

I am another Prozac user. I have been taking it for almost 4 years now, and it helps out alot. I also thought I was crazy because I have always been so introverted and everyone else seemed so happy and outgoing.

Originally posted by Willow4ever1981
everyone else seemed so happy and outgoing.
:wave: Thats me LOl. Im very polite and optimistic all the time. Yet, Im not always feeling like that in the inside. To me, Id rather be happy and bubbly then to be a real downer. My dad always thinks on the negative side of things.. and its such a downer. He can never look on the good side of things. Ay yi yi.

Ok, I only read like the first page of posts, b/c it's late, and blah blah blach, and I'm lazy....anywayz.....
(btw, Paxil is for depression? Well, that's news to me, b/c I was forced into believing it was for my "anxiety disorder"....which I never did, nor have, but those stupid psychiatrists needed SOME reason to understand WHY I hated school. It just HAD to be some mental defect..please.) Anywayz, being down is real ****ty, and I've been through that, and I'll probably go through it again, and most people will, but honestly, it gets better. And that's like like lame and over used...but true. Anyway, about medications...god, I swear like 70% of the population is on Prograf, Paxil, Zoloft..all that ****, and honestly, I think about 5% TRULY need it. That **** like drugs you into being happy. And I think that while there ARE people (and FEW) that DO need it, most people don't. We ALL go through depression- some for days, and some for months....and even for months, you usually get over it, and didn't need anything for it in the first place. And then there's the ****, 'I've been taking it for years and I NEED it or I'll be depressed." You know what I think. I think you're full of ****. Ok, the only reason you can't stop is because you're probably mentaly addicted. Please, you're not going to get depressed ALLLL over again, and in MOST cases it doesn't last for years....and skipping a day isn't going to change anything- it's all in your head, ok?! Now you can go to some counseler or some big time psychiatrist, and let them brainwash you into believing that you're fuct up, and there's no help for you, and that you need the and the medication and blah blah blah..but you know what, they're full of **** too.....I'm Anti-head doctor. I've been to many of those creeps before. They dig into your life, and they take things, twist them around, and make you crazy. They TELL you HOW you should be feeling, and HOW you should be acting b/c of what you went through, and they try and make you see things that you didn't before...but it's like, ya ok, I didn't feel that I was deeply depressed before, but now, you're TELLING I am, so I MUST be. God, I'm going on and on, and bitching, and whatever, but to make it short- So many people take medication for depression, and FEW truly NEED it. I think people are stronge than they think. They can handle more than it is believed. People CAN get over things on their own, even if it takes months.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Have you ever considered taking an online writing course? I've been in college for 4.5 years and the only classes I've had any interest in were the creative writing ones. But trust me, they help. I've become a much better writer just from English 304 to 404 (those are the 2 classes I took).

I never really thought about taking an online writing course. I might look into that.

That's why I had no interest in going to college. I've had 13 long years, (I'm including Kindergarten) and I just need a break. My brain just needs a break. I admire anybody that goes directly to college immediatly after graduating hs. I just couldn't do that.

Another thing is, I have no interest in going to college and taking all the other courses. I could care less about Rocket Science 101. lol Besides, I would probably be an awful college student. I hate grammar. I just hate it. I noticed you had a Grammar course, Cathy and I just can't stand grammar. I'll write a story and I'll go back and do some of the correcting later. I just hate it.

Wow, and I thought that I had horrible problems in my life. They're still pretty complicated for me, (Nothing mentally wrong), but compared to all yours, I seem like it's nothing big. Good luck to all of you. I hope you feel better soon.

Originally posted by Adele
Ok, I only read like the first page of posts, b/c it's late, and blah blah blach, and I'm lazy....anywayz.....
(btw, Paxil is for depression? Well, that's news to me, b/c I was forced into believing it was for my "anxiety disorder"....which I never did, nor have, but those stupid psychiatrists needed SOME reason to understand WHY I hated school. It just HAD to be some mental defect..please.) Anywayz, being down is real ****ty, and I've been through that, and I'll probably go through it again, and most people will, but honestly, it gets better. And that's like like lame and over used...but true. Anyway, about medications...god, I swear like 70% of the population is on Prograf, Paxil, Zoloft..all that ****, and honestly, I think about 5% TRULY need it. That **** like drugs you into being happy. And I think that while there ARE people (and FEW) that DO need it, most people don't. We ALL go through depression- some for days, and some for months....and even for months, you usually get over it, and didn't need anything for it in the first place. And then there's the ****, 'I've been taking it for years and I NEED it or I'll be depressed." You know what I think. I think you're full of ****. Ok, the only reason you can't stop is because you're probably mentaly addicted. Please, you're not going to get depressed ALLLL over again, and in MOST cases it doesn't last for years....and skipping a day isn't going to change anything- it's all in your head, ok?! Now you can go to some counseler or some big time psychiatrist, and let them brainwash you into believing that you're fuct up, and there's no help for you, and that you need the and the medication and blah blah blah..but you know what, they're full of **** too.....I'm Anti-head doctor. I've been to many of those creeps before. They dig into your life, and they take things, twist them around, and make you crazy. They TELL you HOW you should be feeling, and HOW you should be acting b/c of what you went through, and they try and make you see things that you didn't before...but it's like, ya ok, I didn't feel that I was deeply depressed before, but now, you're TELLING I am, so I MUST be. God, I'm going on and on, and bitching, and whatever, but to make it short- So many people take medication for depression, and FEW truly NEED it. I think people are stronge than they think. They can handle more than it is believed. People CAN get over things on their own, even if it takes months.
o0o.. thats not going to settle well with some people. I did agree with you on something though.. I forget where it is though LOl. Some people DO need their medication everyday, but for some, I agree, it is in their head. Just like those fake drugs doctors give you to make you feel better. What are they called? They just give you something that wont do a damn thing to make you THINK its helping.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

Ah! Me too. When someone asks me something.. I have to clear my throat first, other wise you cant hear me! I know I have to do that to When I was little I wouldnt talk at all because of that and well my school held me back for that which in my eyes is the Lamest excuse to hold someone back a grade but Enh well

Originally posted by Adele
Ok, I only read like the first page of posts, b/c it's late, and blah blah blach, and I'm lazy....anywayz.....
(btw, Paxil is for depression? Well, that's news to me, b/c I was forced into believing it was for my "anxiety disorder"....which I never did, nor have, but those stupid psychiatrists needed SOME reason to understand WHY I hated school. It just HAD to be some mental defect..please.) Anywayz, being down is real ****ty, and I've been through that, and I'll probably go through it again, and most people will, but honestly, it gets better. And that's like like lame and over used...but true. Anyway, about medications...god, I swear like 70% of the population is on Prograf, Paxil, Zoloft..all that ****, and honestly, I think about 5% TRULY need it. That **** like drugs you into being happy. And I think that while there ARE people (and FEW) that DO need it, most people don't. We ALL go through depression- some for days, and some for months....and even for months, you usually get over it, and didn't need anything for it in the first place. And then there's the ****, 'I've been taking it for years and I NEED it or I'll be depressed." You know what I think. I think you're full of ****. Ok, the only reason you can't stop is because you're probably mentaly addicted. Please, you're not going to get depressed ALLLL over again, and in MOST cases it doesn't last for years....and skipping a day isn't going to change anything- it's all in your head, ok?! Now you can go to some counseler or some big time psychiatrist, and let them brainwash you into believing that you're fuct up, and there's no help for you, and that you need the and the medication and blah blah blah..but you know what, they're full of **** too.....I'm Anti-head doctor. I've been to many of those creeps before. They dig into your life, and they take things, twist them around, and make you crazy. They TELL you HOW you should be feeling, and HOW you should be acting b/c of what you went through, and they try and make you see things that you didn't before...but it's like, ya ok, I didn't feel that I was deeply depressed before, but now, you're TELLING I am, so I MUST be. God, I'm going on and on, and bitching, and whatever, but to make it short- So many people take medication for depression, and FEW truly NEED it. I think people are stronge than they think. They can handle more than it is believed. People CAN get over things on their own, even if it takes months.

Im not sure if i REALLY TRULY needed paxil when i started taking it...some psychiatrist suggested that i took it about a year ago so my mom started getting it for me. I got addicted and like i said i cant just suddenly stop taking it or my depression will get alot worse, but now that im addicted i do need it. My counselor told me that if i do wanna stop i hafta slowly SLOWLY cut down. Like maybe start taking 3/4 of a tablet every day for a long time, then cut it down to a half, then taking a half every other day and so on.

Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
Crytsal I"m like that to I get MAJOR anxiety attacks when I meet new people IRL I get all shakey and HECK MY voice even cracks You'd think being 30 I'd get over the shyness but I dont I mean I can talk to my FRIENDS, and family and stuff but new people just totally scare me I"ve always been that way I guess

I HATE PEOPLE! I have this social/anxiety disorder.... oh man, I hate people. I hyperventalated (sp?) in a mall once cuz there were too many people around me... and lik, at big family gatherings (we have one this weekend) im fine for the first couple hours but towards the end I usually end up going to some room by myself or in the car until its all over cuz I know if I have to deal with any more people for any longer I will blow..

Luckily I don't have depression anymore or cut myself anymore. But yeah I've been on Zoloft, Paxil (it cause me a heart problem), Zyprexa, etc etc etc etc etc. Something happened in early 2002 that triggered all this, but I had OCD and Depression when I was younger too. It's gone but I still go into depression sometimes.

Originally posted by Babes_Cat


I HATE PEOPLE! I have this social/anxiety disorder.... oh man, I hate people. I hyperventalated (sp?) in a mall once cuz there were too many people around me... and lik, at big family gatherings (we have one this weekend) im fine for the first couple hours but towards the end I usually end up going to some room by myself or in the car until its all over cuz I know if I have to deal with any more people for any longer I will blow..

hah, thats me. Whenever I have to speak in school I get SO flustered and i get all shaky...agh. But my depression went away...I am so glad that crap is over with.

I have depression too. I'm not taking anything for it though. I did for a while but it didn't work so I just stoped. It doesn't matter anywayz. Nothing can help me.

Originally posted by Adele
Ok, I only read like the first page of posts, b/c it's late, and blah blah blach, and I'm lazy....anywayz.....
(btw, Paxil is for depression? Well, that's news to me, b/c I was forced into believing it was for my "anxiety disorder"....which I never did, nor have, but those stupid psychiatrists needed SOME reason to understand WHY I hated school. It just HAD to be some mental defect..please.) Anywayz, being down is real ****ty, and I've been through that, and I'll probably go through it again, and most people will, but honestly, it gets better. And that's like like lame and over used...but true. Anyway, about medications...god, I swear like 70% of the population is on Prograf, Paxil, Zoloft..all that ****, and honestly, I think about 5% TRULY need it. That **** like drugs you into being happy. And I think that while there ARE people (and FEW) that DO need it, most people don't. We ALL go through depression- some for days, and some for months....and even for months, you usually get over it, and didn't need anything for it in the first place. And then there's the ****, 'I've been taking it for years and I NEED it or I'll be depressed." You know what I think. I think you're full of ****. Ok, the only reason you can't stop is because you're probably mentaly addicted. Please, you're not going to get depressed ALLLL over again, and in MOST cases it doesn't last for years....and skipping a day isn't going to change anything- it's all in your head, ok?! Now you can go to some counseler or some big time psychiatrist, and let them brainwash you into believing that you're fuct up, and there's no help for you, and that you need the and the medication and blah blah blah..but you know what, they're full of **** too.....I'm Anti-head doctor. I've been to many of those creeps before. They dig into your life, and they take things, twist them around, and make you crazy. They TELL you HOW you should be feeling, and HOW you should be acting b/c of what you went through, and they try and make you see things that you didn't before...but it's like, ya ok, I didn't feel that I was deeply depressed before, but now, you're TELLING I am, so I MUST be. God, I'm going on and on, and bitching, and whatever, but to make it short- So many people take medication for depression, and FEW truly NEED it. I think people are stronge than they think. They can handle more than it is believed. People CAN get over things on their own, even if it takes months.

Oh, see, now it's people like you that pi$$ me off. You can't make a blanket statement about depression/anxiety. So you got over it, great. That's doesn't mean everyone will! For some people, it's not "just in their head." They can't stop being depressed whenever the hell they feel like it. It's a chemical thing. The Paxil I take balances out the Seretonin in my brain which was off balance- that's why I was so anxious all the time. Could I have just told my brain to balance the chemicals?? Hell no! So no, some people can't get over it w/o meds. And seriously, what the hell do you care if too many people are on meds?

Don't get me started on this one. When I've been depressed, I don't talk at all, I just sit and stare.


As for funerals, I never cry. I have ALWAYS just sat there and stared at a wall, I don't find it very respectful to justsit there screaming.

College? I'll only go for a year, as I don't seem to be so enthused to go.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Oh, see, now it's people like you that pi$$ me off. You can't make a blanket statement about depression/anxiety. So you got over it, great. That's doesn't mean everyone will! For some people, it's not "just in their head." They can't stop being depressed whenever the hell they feel like it. It's a chemical thing. The Paxil I take balances out the Seretonin in my brain which was off balance- that's why I was so anxious all the time. Could I have just told my brain to balance the chemicals?? Hell no! So no, some people can't get over it w/o meds. And seriously, what the hell do you care if too many people are on meds? I know! I really don't need meds, it is a waste of money, as mine isn't bad.




:idea:I've got one, Are you tired, run down, listless? Do you poop out at parties? Well, SPEED IT UP A LITTLE!

Originally posted by Ralph Malph Ricardo
College? I'll only go for a year, as I don't seem to be so enthused to go.

I wasn't either, but "I don't want to go" was not an acceptable answer for daddy. ;)

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne
Luckily I don't have depression anymore or cut myself anymore. But yeah I've been on Zoloft, Paxil (it cause me a heart problem), Zyprexa, etc etc etc etc etc. Something happened in early 2002 that triggered all this, but I had OCD and Depression when I was younger too. It's gone but I still go into depression sometimes.

Wow, thats another cutter I didn't know existed here...

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Oh, see, now it's people like you that pi$$ me off. You can't make a blanket statement about depression/anxiety. So you got over it, great. That's doesn't mean everyone will! For some people, it's not "just in their head." They can't stop being depressed whenever the hell they feel like it. It's a chemical thing. The Paxil I take balances out the Seretonin in my brain which was off balance- that's why I was so anxious all the time. Could I have just told my brain to balance the chemicals?? Hell no! So no, some people can't get over it w/o meds. And seriously, what the hell do you care if too many people are on meds?

I agree with you. SOme people can't get over it. Depression runs in my family, we all have some sort of chemical imbalance. I also used to be a cutter, but i haven't done that in about a year.

My other sister has depression. I'm not sure what kind of medication she takes for it though.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


I wasn't either, but "I don't want to go" was not an acceptable answer for daddy. ;) Same for me, I guess I'm locked in on going.:wink2:

Originally posted by Adele
Ok, I only read like the first page of posts, b/c it's late, and blah blah blach, and I'm lazy....anywayz.....
(btw, Paxil is for depression? Well, that's news to me, b/c I was forced into believing it was for my "anxiety disorder"....which I never did, nor have, but those stupid psychiatrists needed SOME reason to understand WHY I hated school. It just HAD to be some mental defect..please.) Anywayz, being down is real ****ty, and I've been through that, and I'll probably go through it again, and most people will, but honestly, it gets better. And that's like like lame and over used...but true. Anyway, about medications...god, I swear like 70% of the population is on Prograf, Paxil, Zoloft..all that ****, and honestly, I think about 5% TRULY need it. That **** like drugs you into being happy. And I think that while there ARE people (and FEW) that DO need it, most people don't. We ALL go through depression- some for days, and some for months....and even for months, you usually get over it, and didn't need anything for it in the first place. And then there's the ****, 'I've been taking it for years and I NEED it or I'll be depressed." You know what I think. I think you're full of ****. Ok, the only reason you can't stop is because you're probably mentaly addicted. Please, you're not going to get depressed ALLLL over again, and in MOST cases it doesn't last for years....and skipping a day isn't going to change anything- it's all in your head, ok?! Now you can go to some counseler or some big time psychiatrist, and let them brainwash you into believing that you're fuct up, and there's no help for you, and that you need the and the medication and blah blah blah..but you know what, they're full of **** too.....I'm Anti-head doctor. I've been to many of those creeps before. They dig into your life, and they take things, twist them around, and make you crazy. They TELL you HOW you should be feeling, and HOW you should be acting b/c of what you went through, and they try and make you see things that you didn't before...but it's like, ya ok, I didn't feel that I was deeply depressed before, but now, you're TELLING I am, so I MUST be. God, I'm going on and on, and bitching, and whatever, but to make it short- So many people take medication for depression, and FEW truly NEED it. I think people are stronge than they think. They can handle more than it is believed. People CAN get over things on their own, even if it takes months.

And what about the people who are about to go jump off a ****ing bridge or go hang themselves from a ****ing tree because they are so depressed?!?! Yeah I think they would need meds before they become institutionalized! No offense, but you are not a doctor, and you can't go and say 'FEW truly NEED it' cause there are more than what, 6, 7 million people in America on some kind of anti-depressant?

Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
I know I have to do that to When I was little I wouldnt talk at all because of that and well my school held me back for that which in my eyes is the Lamest excuse to hold someone back a grade but Enh well

Yeah same here. I had to go to begindergarten before starting kindergarten because I wasn't social enough. I'm not depressed but it's weird reading this to see people who are just like me. Crystal, everything you said, could have been like I was typing it. I hardly ever start conversation with people I don't know. I'm so outgoing around my friends, which I'd rather be with just one or two than a whole group, but I have such a hard time talking to strangers. I'm not as shy as I used to be but I'm still really quiet.

Ive never really had the social thing- the more depressed I got the more of a good show I put on in public. Id act completly normal- often id even try to be happier or more outgoing than normal. It got to the point where I had a near-perfect social life, lots of friends, a boyfriend, everything- but id come home every day and cry for hours.

I do have issues saying im sorry. ill be like "o sorry.." but i cant say it seriously or anything.
and i never cry at funerals. Ive had to be at a lot- all four of my grandparents, my cousin, my great aunt, two of my close friends- and i only remember crying at one and it was in a back room by myself. (yeah, i got so worked up i passed out...that was real good :rolleyes: ) but i cant cry in front of people.

Originally posted by Willow4ever1981


I agree with you. SOme people can't get over it. Depression runs in my family, we all have some sort of chemical imbalance. I also used to be a cutter, but i haven't done that in about a year.

Ok, I never knew about this till I first went to therapy but one of my dad;'s cousins commited suicide before I was born.... they told me and I was like, "Hello.... theres a shocker." Cuz I thought I was the only one in my family like that but.... I guess not.


Cutting.... *sighs* Dont get me started.

Originally posted by Adele
Ok, I only read like the first page of posts, b/c it's late, and blah blah blach, and I'm lazy....anywayz.....
(btw, Paxil is for depression? Well, that's news to me, b/c I was forced into believing it was for my "anxiety disorder"....which I never did, nor have, but those stupid psychiatrists needed SOME reason to understand WHY I hated school. It just HAD to be some mental defect..please.) Anywayz, being down is real ****ty, and I've been through that, and I'll probably go through it again, and most people will, but honestly, it gets better. And that's like like lame and over used...but true. Anyway, about medications...god, I swear like 70% of the population is on Prograf, Paxil, Zoloft..all that ****, and honestly, I think about 5% TRULY need it. That **** like drugs you into being happy. And I think that while there ARE people (and FEW) that DO need it, most people don't. We ALL go through depression- some for days, and some for months....and even for months, you usually get over it, and didn't need anything for it in the first place. And then there's the ****, 'I've been taking it for years and I NEED it or I'll be depressed." You know what I think. I think you're full of ****. Ok, the only reason you can't stop is because you're probably mentaly addicted. Please, you're not going to get depressed ALLLL over again, and in MOST cases it doesn't last for years....and skipping a day isn't going to change anything- it's all in your head, ok?! Now you can go to some counseler or some big time psychiatrist, and let them brainwash you into believing that you're fuct up, and there's no help for you, and that you need the and the medication and blah blah blah..but you know what, they're full of **** too.....I'm Anti-head doctor. I've been to many of those creeps before. They dig into your life, and they take things, twist them around, and make you crazy. They TELL you HOW you should be feeling, and HOW you should be acting b/c of what you went through, and they try and make you see things that you didn't before...but it's like, ya ok, I didn't feel that I was deeply depressed before, but now, you're TELLING I am, so I MUST be. God, I'm going on and on, and bitching, and whatever, but to make it short- So many people take medication for depression, and FEW truly NEED it. I think people are stronge than they think. They can handle more than it is believed. People CAN get over things on their own, even if it takes months.
And how do YOU know who needs medication and who doesnt? Have u ever HAD serious depression? I dont think so, this "you usually get over it" ****...u dont magically "get over" depression! If some1 has been feeling extremely depressed for like a week, they might as well get help...yes we're aware that depression aint permanent but its not like "who cares, i'll be happy again someday", they might as well get help b4 the depression gets worse and they become suicidal or something.

Originally posted by Ralph Malph Ricardo
I know! I really don't need meds, it is a waste of money, as mine isn't bad.




:idea:I've got one, Are you tired, run down, listless? Do you poop out at parties? Well, SPEED IT UP A LITTLE!
What the hell are u talking about? Do u know what depression is?

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
And how do YOU know who needs medication and who doesnt? Have u ever HAD serious depression? I dont think so, this "you usually get over it" ****...u dont magically "get over" depression! If some1 has been feeling extremely depressed for like a week, they might as well get help...yes we're aware that depression aint permanent but its not like "who cares, i'll be happy again someday", they might as well get help b4 the depression gets worse and they become suicidal or something.

*Applause* Well said.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne

And how do YOU know who needs medication and who doesnt? Have u ever HAD serious depression? I dont think so, this "you usually get over it" ****...u dont magically "get over" depression! If some1 has been feeling extremely depressed for like a week, they might as well get help...yes we're aware that depression aint permanent but its not like "who cares, i'll be happy again someday", they might as well get help b4 the depression gets worse and they become suicidal or something.

Wow, go Sarah.

:D

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
Do u know what depression is?

I'm actually finding out a LOT of people are not educated about depression. I have this one friend who has that damn 'You'll get better, get over it, if you try hard enough you will, believe in yourself' attitude. Everyone at school pokes fun at me and calls me crazy, insane, suicidal, because the way I act, and they don't even know what the whole story is. They just tell by my actions and the way I talk. I mean, they just don't understand anything. I hate people who have that 'It's going to be ok, your not alone' ****. Well DUH people, this is Prozac Nation for Christ's sake, I KNOW damn ****ing well I'm not alone!! 6, 7, 8 million Americans are on Prozac each year! I think people need to be more educated about Clinical Depression/Bi-Polar (Manic Depression).

Now there are different degrees of depression, not to mention different types. Emotional depression is just caused by your surrounding things. Divorces, deaths, etc. Then there is just when you cannot help it. Chemical imbalances. Different degrees are along the lines of mild, moderate, heavy, there's no reason to live. I'm sorry to say, that I'm at the latter one. Mild to moderate can SOMETIMES go away on it's own- especially if it's an emotional thing. But if it's Clinical or Bi-Polar (the 'I can't help it' types), then there ain't no way it's gonna magically disappear. You'll need professional help.

For further proof of the whole 'emotional vs. can't help it' thing- My shrink says about me- 'Oh I think it's an emotional thing and it'll go away on it's own, it's because of your parents, friends, blah blah ****ing blah'. They are NOT THE MAIN CAUSE of it, yet they don't help it. I cannot help the way I feel. Therefore I am coming to believe I'm somewhere along the lines of Clinically depressed with Bi-Polar thrown in there due to my severe mood swings/dellusions.

To sum it up... people need to be so much more educated about suicide.

Originally posted by Jenny


My problem is I don't talk about my problems. I feel uncomfortable talking about my problems to my parents and I talk very little about my problems with my friends. I push everything into a bottle, basically. I never let go of that bottle. I'll never open that bottle until I'm alone. When I open that bottle, I can cry freely and I know I'll never have to explain my actions to anybody else.

When my grandpa died in 1995, I didn't show any emotion at the funeral. I waited until I was by myself to cry about it. His death was confusing to me- considering I was 10 or 11 at the time. My grandfather seemed like he was in a happy mood all the time. I never could grasp why he died the way he did. Was he just like me? Did he put on a smiley face for everybody else, but crash and burn on the inside?

I told my mom that I need some depression medicine and she just told me that I had to drag myself out of that mood. I can drag myself out- sometimes. It just seems like when I see the light, I fall back into the hole. I crawl back up to the light and I fall again.



Wow. This is me to a T. I have bottled up stuff for as long as I can remember. But, lately, it's been taking its toll on me. I know a guy (actually, my cousin's fiance) who looked at me one day, and said, "You look like you're carrying the weight of all the world's problems on your shoulders. If you don't open up and let people start helping you, you're going to kill yourself with everything you're carrying." Since then, this guy and my cousin have been rallying together to try to help me. They have sat and held me when I broke down and cried. Even though I always believed that I wanted to carry everything on my own, I must say that without really good friends I'd be lost. We all need those friends who will help us carry our load. For years, I always thought no one cared. That no one would be there. But, you know what, I couldn't have been more wrong.

I also cling on to older adult role models. People who have been through the heaviest stuff and lived through it and gotten on with their lives. They are my fortress in the storm. I go to them for advice and wisdom, and they always help me out. I think one of the wisest things to do in life is to find an adult, someone whom you can respect and admire, and adopt them. These people are better than parents, because you know that they will be honest and sincere. They're relating from their own past experiences.

Originally posted by Miss Karly


I'm actually finding out a LOT of people are not educated about depression. I have this one friend who has that damn 'You'll get better, get over it, if you try hard enough you will, believe in yourself' attitude. Everyone at school pokes fun at me and calls me crazy, insane, suicidal, because the way I act, and they don't even know what the whole story is. They just tell by my actions and the way I talk. I mean, they just don't understand anything. I hate people who have that 'It's going to be ok, your not alone' ****. Well DUH people, this is Prozac Nation for Christ's sake, I KNOW damn ****ing well I'm not alone!! 6, 7, 8 million Americans are on Prozac each year! I think people need to be more educated about Clinical Depression/Bi-Polar (Manic Depression).

Now there are different degrees of depression, not to mention different types. Emotional depression is just caused by your surrounding things. Divorces, deaths, etc. Then there is just when you cannot help it. Chemical imbalances. Different degrees are along the lines of mild, moderate, heavy, there's no reason to live. I'm sorry to say, that I'm at the latter one. Mild to moderate can SOMETIMES go away on it's own- especially if it's an emotional thing. But if it's Clinical or Bi-Polar (the 'I can't help it' types), then there ain't no way it's gonna magically disappear. You'll need professional help.

For further proof of the whole 'emotional vs. can't help it' thing- My shrink says about me- 'Oh I think it's an emotional thing and it'll go away on it's own, it's because of your parents, friends, blah blah ****ing blah'. They are NOT THE MAIN CAUSE of it, yet they don't help it. I cannot help the way I feel. Therefore I am coming to believe I'm somewhere along the lines of Clinically depressed with Bi-Polar thrown in there due to my severe mood swings/dellusions.

To sum it up... people need to be so much more educated about suicide.


You're so right. So many people think that you should "just get over it" but that's not possible. Actually, I don't get along with my mother the best because she has this same mentality. She's always saying, "Suck it up and go on. You're not any worse off than anyone else." But, it doesn't work like that. Depresion involves losing interest in all your friends, and things that interest you. I actually have to make myself go spend time with friends and make myself pretend to be interested in their interests most of the time. And it hurts to wake up one day crying....feeling pain deep down inside....and not knowing why. And even though I have those few friends who will hold me when I cry and stand by my side, it's still not like they can take it away. And they don't understand how it hurts or why it hurts. All they know is that it hurts.


Luckily, I have seasonal depression (S.A.D.) so, as it gets closer to spring, I get back to normal. I was just recently diagnosed. Supposedly, there's some type of light therapy and I'm currently looking into that.

Originally posted by ILoveLucyfan4eva


Yeah same here. I had to go to begindergarten before starting kindergarten because I wasn't social enough. I'm not depressed but it's weird reading this to see people who are just like me. Crystal, everything you said, could have been like I was typing it. I hardly ever start conversation with people I don't know. I'm so outgoing around my friends, which I'd rather be with just one or two than a whole group, but I have such a hard time talking to strangers. I'm not as shy as I used to be but I'm still really quiet.



When I was a little girl, I'd cry if someone looked at me the wrong way. And I was always hiding behind my mom....no matter where we went. I was so shy and timid. As I got older, I went through phases. In high school, I really got involved in journalism and drama and that helped me gain confidence in myself, so I wasn't so afraid of opening up. Nowadays, I talk to everyone, it's no big deal. I'm still shy, but to such a lesser degree. But, I think my shyness stemmed from my lack of confidence in myself, which stemmed from my depression. It all ties together. I'm not saying that you're depressed because you're shy, or vice versa, but for me it all tied together.

Originally posted by CollegeGirl
Luckily, I have seasonal depression (S.A.D.) so, as it gets closer to spring, I get back to normal. I was just recently diagnosed.

I think I have that to a degree. Usually my fall semesters (especially this last one) are okay. My grades are good, I don't mind going, etc. But then spring semester comes. Grades drop, I don't want to go. The 16 weeks seems to take 80 years. Damn cold and cloudiness.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


I think I have that to a degree. Usually my fall semesters (especially this last one) are okay. My grades are good, I don't mind going, etc. But then spring semester comes. Grades drop, I don't want to go. The 16 weeks seems to take 80 years. Damn cold and cloudiness.


Same here. I can do REALLY well in my classes (like being the ONLY person in my entire English class to get an A). But if I'm not into a class, I will find myself failing a class. And it all depends on my mood. And I have a bad habbit of dropping classes. I also suffer from panic attacks, which worsen things. But, all this fits neatly under my "high anxiety personality" profile. I find ways of coping, though-- which is extremely important. I was surprised to discover that it was all affected by the quantity and quality of light that I was exposed to. But, it makes a lot of sense when I think about when my cycles occur.

Originally posted by CollegeGirl
Same here. I can do REALLY well in my classes (like being the ONLY person in my entire English class to get an A). But if I'm not into a class, I will find myself failing a class. And it all depends on my mood. And I have a bad habbit of dropping classes. I also suffer from panic attacks, which worsen things. But, all this fits neatly under my "high anxiety personality" profile. I find ways of coping, though-- which is extremely important. I was surprised to discover that it was all affected by the quantity and quality of light that I was exposed to. But, it makes a lot of sense when I think about when my cycles occur.

I don't know about you, but the English building at my school has no windows and being an English major, I spend most of my time there. It is SO depressing in that building. No sunlight, nothing. No wonder I skip a lot.

*sighs* My mom just found out that I been skipping meds. for the past week... I'm not even in the room anymore and she's still yelling.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


I don't know about you, but the English building at my school has no windows and being an English major, I spend most of my time there. It is SO depressing in that building. No sunlight, nothing. No wonder I skip a lot.


a few years ago- during about the worst spell of depression ive had- i spent most of the school day in the MG room which was really small and had no windows. its awful.


but my worst times were when i was sick (even just a cold) something about how that further causes chemical imbalances. my old depression still comes back and sometimes ill completly lose control of moods/emotions when im sick.

Originally posted by Titania
but my worst times were when i was sick (even just a cold) something about how that further causes chemical imbalances. my old depression still comes back and sometimes ill completly lose control of moods/emotions when im sick.

Ironic- my anxiety was caused by illness too. I'm scared to death of getting sick and after I do, my anxiety flares up big time. Paxil or no Paxil, I'm sure it will happen again.

BabesCat and I love LucyFan4eva I"m so glad that I"m not the only one like that the Anxiety attacks with strangers with my IMMEDIATE family I"m fine (although its sad I DO get along BETTER WITH MY 13 year old niece then I DO my OLDEST sibling but thats just because shes SMART and I think she understands me the most) but with my Aunts and uncles and cousins I'm like JUST LEAVE ME ALONE and I go to a room and read or something then they ask me "why are you so antisocial" (My BOSS WHO HAS NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER IN MY EYES to DIG INTO MY PERSONAL LIFE even ASKED ME That) I'm like because PEOPLE SCARE ME!! :rolleyes: I feel like NO ONE understands I HAD a long talk with my brother though on my way to california last summer and He told me that he use to pick me up from school and that before I started Preschool I was this happy bubbly little kid and then My mom started working and put me in this REALLY BAD PRESCHOOL and the teacher use to YELL AT ME and threaten me and My brother said he use to pick me up from school and he heard the teacher tell me "If You dont shut up I'm gonna cut your tongue out" WELL HELL NO WONDER people scare me so much My old Teacher subconsiously planted that SEED in my head URGH!

Originally posted by Miss Karly
I'm actually finding out a LOT of people are not educated about depression.To sum it up... people need to be so much more educated about suicide.
Yah, I only know about depression, what I learned in school. I know I dont have it.. I just get down every once in a while, which is probably why I dont wanna tell anyone. Theyd be all freaking out and stuff and make a big hullaballoo about it, and like Ive said before- I hate that kind of attention. Same with suicide, I dont know too much about it. I dont know how I feel about suicide anymore, reading a lot of this has changed me. Before now, I had no sympathy for people committing suicide or hurting themselves in any way. I thought it was a stupid and lazy excuse to escape pain and therefor didnt have any sympathy for anyone who did that to themselves. I, myself have never even thought about killing myself or hurting myself in any physical pain-- it sickens me just thinking about it. But now, I feel some sympathy for those who do, because they cant help it. It isnt like you wake up and write down in your schedule "Attempt suicide", its something that someone cant control by themselves-- which is what I sympathize for. Ok, I messed up. What I meant is, I now sympathize for those who are hurting themselves, etc. I always had sympathy for someone who died- meangya, Im not that big of a bitch.. I just dont really sympathize for those who died FROM IT. Take Ray Combs (Family Feud) for example. He committed suicide. I feel saddened about his death, but not in the way he died. Get it? I feel bad after all the crap he went through and everything he had to endure, but I dont accept his way of escape. Ugh, anyways.. hope I didnt sound like a bitch when I said all that...

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About the whole public speaking thing-- thats the one thing I DONT miss about school. For me, public speaking was bad. Doing it with my friend Amanda was HELL. When we had to do something outloud in class together or even if we were in the SAME ROOM together.. we just knew what was going to happen. We laugh, hard. We laugh, long. We laugh until the teacher gets pissed. We cant help it. By myself, well its a lil different. I get super dooper scared, and the only way I can do it my best is to go first. I shake uncontrollable, and my voice quivvers and cracks. I also talk REALLY REALLY FAST. Everyone said I sounded like a chipmunk LOl. Last year, for Spanish, we had to do a project on a country. Well, the presentation had to take up pretty much the whole period, which is about 50 minutes. Yeah.. I was done in about 20 minutes.

To people who responded to my posts: "not every can get over!". I'm sorry that you couldn't understand that I said SOME people can't get over it, however many can, and just choose to feel sorry for themselves, without me directly telling you. I'm also sorry that you would rather me put up some sympathy post where I say, "Oh gee, you know, that's rough. I'm really, really, really, sorry you have to deal with this. My goodness, I feel SO bad. I just can't explain how terrible I feel. NO ONE should have to deal with that! NO ONE! That's just really, really, really, really sad. Wow...I just feel so bad." B/c while it MAY be rough, and you shouldn't have to deal with so much ****, and sometimes it's too much to handle, the LAST thing you need is someone feeling sorry for you. It's just puts you deeper in ur despair. Get pissed of at me. Sure you would rather have someone tell you how bad they feel, but what you REALLY need is some1 to tell you how it REALLY is. Think of all the **** you have to deal with. It's happened before to people. It'll happen again. I am POSITIVE that someone has gone through worse than you. Don't feel sorry for yourself...that's what ****s you over. I know. I've been there. And I remeber my family and friends treating me different, and overly nice, and sure I liked it. And then my best friend told me how things were really were, and i was SOOO pissed. I mean, how could she not see what pain I had to deal with?! But after being angry and frustrated with her for months, I realized I wouldn't have gotten myself back together without her words or "reality"...all that "feel bad for me ****" got me nowhere. So go ahead, HATE people like me, let people like me pis you off....it doesn't bother me. Sometimes, people just need to now how it is.

(btw...haven't you ever heard the whole "I cried because i didn't have shoes, and then I met a boy who didn't have feet" thing haha?")

i don't have depression. i don't need medicine or anything. i feel sorry for the people that i meet that do have the disorder... :( maybe u just need a good song to lighten up?? :confused:

Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
I'm like JUST LEAVE ME ALONE and I go to a room and read or something then they ask me "why are you so antisocial" (My BOSS WHO HAS NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER IN MY EYES to DIG INTO MY PERSONAL LIFE even ASKED ME That)

That's how I feel sometimes. I like having my alone time. I don't want to be crowded beside a bunch of people. Whenever one of my relatives comes and visit, I just feel like staying in my room. I just don't care how it looks to others. Sometimes I don't feel like socializing and other times I do.

The thing I always hated involved school. I'm another one of these quiet people. I'm loud around my friends, but I'm quiet around people I don't know. Anyway, I always hated it when the teachers would pair you into groups and it seemed like everytime I would end up with somebody I just flat out didn't like or the ones I didn't know. I love group work if I could pair up with my friends, but I just stayed quiet if it was with people I didn't know. I know some people automatically assume that if you don't talk much, you must be this cold hearted bitch. Ooh, she thinks she's too good to talk to us. What a snob. Basically, stuff like that.



"If You dont shut up I'm gonna cut your tongue out" WELL HELL NO WONDER people scare me so much My old Teacher subconsiously planted that SEED in my head URGH!

People like that, just don't need to be teachers. jmo

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

Yah, I only know about depression, what I learned in school. I know I dont have it.. I just get down every once in a while, which is probably why I dont wanna tell anyone. Theyd be all freaking out and stuff and make a big hullaballoo about it, and like Ive said before- I hate that kind of attention. Same with suicide, I dont know too much about it. I dont know how I feel about suicide anymore, reading a lot of this has changed me. Before now, I had no sympathy for people committing suicide or hurting themselves in any way. I thought it was a stupid and lazy excuse to escape pain and therefor didnt have any sympathy for anyone who did that to themselves. I, myself have never even thought about killing myself or hurting myself in any physical pain-- it sickens me just thinking about it. But now, I feel some sympathy for those who do, because they cant help it. It isnt like you wake up and write down in your schedule "Attempt suicide", its something that someone cant control by themselves-- which is what I sympathize for. Ok, I messed up. What I meant is, I now sympathize for those who are hurting themselves, etc. I always had sympathy for someone who died- meangya, Im not that big of a bitch.. I just dont really sympathize for those who died FROM IT. Take Ray Combs (Family Feud) for example. He committed suicide. I feel saddened about his death, but not in the way he died. Get it? I feel bad after all the crap he went through and everything he had to endure, but I dont accept his way of escape. Ugh, anyways.. hope I didnt sound like a bitch when I said all that...




There's nothing good about suicide. I hate that people do it. I am at a point in my life, where I can roll my eyes and know that I wouldn't do that. But, several years ago, I was quite prepared to do it. I have sat alone with the lights out holding a bottle of pills in my hand. I was ready to take them all. But, I was scared. I knew it would be selfish to hurt everyone else around me just because I couldn't see a way out of my troubles. I picked up a Christian magazine my Mom had lying around and started reading it. Then, I cried for hours. I had previously wanted nothing to do with God. I scoffed at the whole religion thing. But, I found a peace-- a comfort-- as I was reading that magazine. I'm not sure if anyone has ever read it, but the magazine was Guideposts and it was fascinating. It was all about how God helped people in their times of need-- how He pulled them out of despair. So, I prayed and hoped things would be ok. I guess that's why I'm a Christian now. Because I remember a horrible time when I was ready to end it all. A time when I thought nothing could help me. And you know what? Nothing could help me: no amount of sappy movies, good music, heartwarming books, self help groups, nothing. No one felt what I was feeling inside. No one except Jesus Christ. A man, the son of God, who actually carried all my pains and burdons so I wouldn't have to. All I had to do was let go of them and give them to Him.

Sure, you may scoff at Christianity. You don't have to believe it. I'm not asking you to believe it. All I'm saying is that at my darkest moment, when it seemed I had slipped away from all the world, I discovered that He was by my side. He was ready to be that friend that no one else could. He gave me the strength to continue on with my life. He let me know that I have a purpose here on earth. And I can't end my time here before I do whatever it is that I was sent here to do. Anyway, that's just my two cents. You can take it or leave it.

Originally posted by CollegeGirl
There's nothing good about suicide. I hate that people do it. I am at a point in my life, where I can roll my eyes and know that I wouldn't do that. But, several years ago, I was quite prepared to do it. I have sat alone with the lights out holding a bottle of pills in my hand. I was ready to take them all. But, I was scared. I knew it would be selfish to hurt everyone else around me just because I couldn't see a way out of my troubles. I picked up a Christian magazine my Mom had lying around and started reading it. Then, I cried for hours. I had previously wanted nothing to do with God. I scoffed at the whole religion thing. But, I found a peace-- a comfort-- as I was reading that magazine. I'm not sure if anyone has ever read it, but the magazine was Guideposts and it was fascinating. It was all about how God helped people in their times of need-- how He pulled them out of despair. So, I prayed and hoped things would be ok. I guess that's why I'm a Christian now. Because I remember a horrible time when I was ready to end it all. A time when I thought nothing could help me. And you know what? Nothing could help me: no amount of sappy movies, good music, heartwarming books, self help groups, nothing. No one felt what I was feeling inside. No one except Jesus Christ. A man, the son of God, who actually carried all my pains and burdons so I wouldn't have to. All I had to do was let go of them and give them to Him.

Sure, you may scoff at Christianity. You don't have to believe it. I'm not asking you to believe it. All I'm saying is that at my darkest moment, when it seemed I had slipped away from all the world, I discovered that He was by my side. He was ready to be that friend that no one else could. He gave me the strength to continue on with my life. He let me know that I have a purpose here on earth. And I can't end my time here before I do whatever it is that I was sent here to do. Anyway, that's just my two cents. You can take it or leave it.
That was put very nicely. Im also glad to know that you were able to save yourself, that it wasnt forced upon you.:hug:

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

That was put very nicely. Im also glad to know that you were able to save yourself, that it wasnt forced upon you.:hug:


:bighug: Thanks!




Suicide is a choice. It's a way out. Unfortunately, it's always a last means of resolving a problem that just gets too overwhelming. People only turn to suicide when they think nothing else will work and they are seriously better off dead than alive. It's a strong urge that is very difficult to fight. But, people always have a choice in the matter.







And someone, way back in this thread, commented about warning signs of suicide. Warning signs are completely useless. Sometimes, people who dress all in black and always seem depressed would never commit suicide....would laugh if you even brought it up. Yet, people who seem completely normal, who are always smiling on the outside, are the very ones who DO commit suicide. Often, the victims of suicide are those who no one ever thought would do it.

Originally posted by CollegeGirl
Suicide is a choice. It's a way out. Unfortunately, it's always a last means of resolving a problem that just gets too overwhelming. People only turn to suicide when they think nothing else will work and they are seriously better off dead than alive. It's a strong urge that is very difficult to fight. But, people always have a choice in the matter.

Thats why I have little or no sympathy-- because its a choice. People have to make choices themselves everyday. I dont sympathize because everyone knows its wrong, so when they do it.. I cant show sympathy because I knew that they knew deep down, it wasnt the way to handle their situation. Its like falling off a bike and refusing to get back on. If you get back on or make an attempt to get back on, odds are, things will get better. But, if youre going to whine about falling off the bike and dont do anythin about it- dont tell me, I dont want to hear about it. You have the choice of getting back on, no matter how scared you are.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

Thats why I have little or no sympathy-- because its a choice. People have to make choices themselves everyday. I dont sympathize because everyone knows its wrong, so when they do it.. I cant show sympathy because I knew that they knew deep down, it wasnt the way to handle their situation. Its like falling off a bike and refusing to get back on. If you get back on or make an attempt to get back on, odds are, things will get better. But, if youre going to whine about falling off the bike and dont do anythin about it- dont tell me, I dont want to hear about it. You have the choice of getting back on, no matter how scared you are.


True. But, when you're at that point, you don't think about the "what if's" You just think about what's going on right now. You're looking for straws to grasp at, and there aren't any left. And there are usually so many other factors contributing to it, that prohibit you from realizing that things are going to get better. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with that decision. It apalls me that people do that. But, I can sympathize with them to a point-- to the point of knowing how hopeless that last moment is. Of wishing that they would have been able to see things differently.

Originally posted by CollegeGirl



True. But, when you're at that point, you don't think about the "what if's" You just think about what's going on right now. You're looking for straws to grasp at, and there aren't any left. And there are usually so many other factors contributing to it, that prohibit you from realizing that things are going to get better. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with that decision. It apalls me that people do that. But, I can sympathize with them to a point-- to the point of knowing how hopeless that last moment is. Of wishing that they would have been able to see things differently.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think thats why I dont feel sorry for people who do that to themselves.. because I have never done it, nor have I ever given it a thought. So, for someone like me to feel the way they do, would be impossible.

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think thats why I dont feel sorry for people who do that to themselves.. because I have never done it, nor have I ever given it a thought. So, for someone like me to feel the way they do, would be impossible.



I wish I could say that. You are a very LUCKY, SPECIAL person not to have ever had to worry about that. :bighug:

Originally posted by CollegeGirl




I wish I could say that. You are a very LUCKY, SPECIAL person not to have ever had to worry about that. :bighug:
:hug: Thank you. Well, I consider YOU lucky & special for being able to help yourself. That makes you a very strong and respectable person.:bighug:

Originally posted by Adele
To people who responded to my posts: "not every can get over!". I'm sorry that you couldn't understand that I said SOME people can't get over it, however many can, and just choose to feel sorry for themselves, without me directly telling you. I'm also sorry that you would rather me put up some sympathy post where I say, "Oh gee, you know, that's rough. I'm really, really, really, sorry you have to deal with this. My goodness, I feel SO bad. I just can't explain how terrible I feel. NO ONE should have to deal with that! NO ONE! That's just really, really, really, really sad. Wow...I just feel so bad." B/c while it MAY be rough, and you shouldn't have to deal with so much ****, and sometimes it's too much to handle, the LAST thing you need is someone feeling sorry for you. It's just puts you deeper in ur despair. Get pissed of at me. Sure you would rather have someone tell you how bad they feel, but what you REALLY need is some1 to tell you how it REALLY is. Think of all the **** you have to deal with. It's happened before to people. It'll happen again. I am POSITIVE that someone has gone through worse than you. Don't feel sorry for yourself...that's what ****s you over. I know. I've been there. And I remeber my family and friends treating me different, and overly nice, and sure I liked it. And then my best friend told me how things were really were, and i was SOOO pissed. I mean, how could she not see what pain I had to deal with?! But after being angry and frustrated with her for months, I realized I wouldn't have gotten myself back together without her words or "reality"...all that "feel bad for me ****" got me nowhere. So go ahead, HATE people like me, let people like me pis you off....it doesn't bother me. Sometimes, people just need to now how it is.

(btw...haven't you ever heard the whole "I cried because i didn't have shoes, and then I met a boy who didn't have feet" thing haha?")
I didnt post this for sympathy, its to discuss depression and i posted my case. The topic is "depression" not "boo ****in hoo i have depression and my life is a mess". I dont "feel sorry for myself" either, i am actually trying to overcome depression, i have help, so im not just whining and wanting ppl to feel sorry for me cuz i know that does nothing.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
I didnt post this for sympathy, its to discuss depression and i posted my case. The topic is "depression" not "boo ****in hoo i have depression and my life is a mess". I dont "feel sorry for myself" either, i am actually trying to overcome depression, i have help, so im not just whining and wanting ppl to feel sorry for me cuz i know that does nothing.
Hmm.. *trying to think of what to say* Yah, you got a point. You told your story because you didnt know what to do, it isnt like you were hoping to get on Oprah or something. Im happy for you that you are getting help, and I hope that your father soon realizes how he reacts affects you. You dont deserve to be yelled at, nor do you deserve to cry because of it.

Originally posted by Jenny


People like that, just don't need to be teachers. jmo oh I strongly agree with you Jenny I strongly believe it was THAT teachers fault that I cant talk to strangers without getting FREAKED OUT I mean my brother had even told me BEFORE I had that teacher I'd go up to complete strangers and talk to them (which okay in today society might not be a good thing but BACK then it wasnt a problem) but AFTER that happened I completeley shut down I OFTEN wonder if that teacher ever got fired or what happened cause I'D REALLY like to know

Originally posted by Buffy&Angelique
i don't have depression. i don't need medicine or anything. i feel sorry for the people that i meet that do have the disorder... :( maybe u just need a good song to lighten up?? :confused:

No.

Originally posted by Buffy&Angelique
i don't have depression. i don't need medicine or anything. i feel sorry for the people that i meet that do have the disorder... :( maybe u just need a good song to lighten up?? :confused:

stupid. a song isn't going to fix a chemical imbalance.

Originally posted by Buffy&Angelique
maybe u just need a good song to lighten up?? :confused:



I don't know about anyone else but I always listen to music when I'm sad. It helps a little but then you take the music away and you're back in hell. Well for me anyways.

Originally posted by CollegeGirl
When I was a little girl, I'd cry if someone looked at me the wrong way. And I was always hiding behind my mom....no matter where we went. I was so shy and timid. As I got older, I went through phases. In high school, I really got involved in journalism and drama and that helped me gain confidence in myself, so I wasn't so afraid of opening up. Nowadays, I talk to everyone, it's no big deal. I'm still shy, but to such a lesser degree. But, I think my shyness stemmed from my lack of confidence in myself, which stemmed from my depression. It all ties together. I'm not saying that you're depressed because you're shy, or vice versa, but for me it all tied together.

Yeah I think I'm shy because of lack of confidence in myself as well. I'm always afraid of drawing attention to myself and saying the wrong thing, which is why I'm a perfectionist. And I was semi-depressed at one point, if you can even call it that. I had a lot of **** going on in my life and every once in awhile I get really sad and just want to be by myself but it comes and it goes so most of the time I'm fine.

i'm sorry to all of you who have problems with depression, i know how you feel, i was pretty depressed from about 8th to 10th grade, i think it had a lot to do with the people i was hanging out with, they just treated me like crap and really weren't very good friends at all. but in 11th grade i ditched those people and found some new friends who where truly my friends....after i meet them and started hanging out with them everything just seemed to get better. i've been out of high school for almost 2 years now and i've never been happier in my life. the friends i made in my junior and senior years are still my friends and every thing is just.....peachy...ginger peachy to be exact. now, granted i was not "clinically depressed" and i never had to take any medication for it....but i know sorta where you're comming from, life sucked....but now it's all good!

I wish the best to each of you:bighug:

Originally posted by Jenny

That's how I feel sometimes. I like having my alone time. I don't want to be crowded beside a bunch of people. Whenever one of my relatives comes and visit, I just feel like staying in my room. I just don't care how it looks to others. Sometimes I don't feel like socializing and other times I do.

The thing I always hated involved school. I'm another one of these quiet people. I'm loud around my friends, but I'm quiet around people I don't know. Anyway, I always hated it when the teachers would pair you into groups and it seemed like everytime I would end up with somebody I just flat out didn't like or the ones I didn't know. I love group work if I could pair up with my friends, but I just stayed quiet if it was with people I didn't know. I know some people automatically assume that if you don't talk much, you must be this cold hearted bitch. Ooh, she thinks she's too good to talk to us. What a snob. Basically, stuff like that.

See with me, I'm so comfortable around my family. When my cousins and stuff come over I stick to my aunts like glue. I love them. But for the most part I like to be alone and I'm sure people at school think I'm a stuck up bitch because I hardly ever talk but the truth is I am so intimidated by people that I'm afraid to talk around them.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne

I didnt post this for sympathy, its to discuss depression and i posted my case. The topic is "depression" not "boo ****in hoo i have depression and my life is a mess". I dont "feel sorry for myself" either, i am actually trying to overcome depression, i have help, so im not just whining and wanting ppl to feel sorry for me cuz i know that does nothing.



I know what you're saying. Sympathy does nothing to help. But, being able to open up to others who can relate and identify with your problem can help. Those people who understand can offer advice, or just a shoulder to cry on. They have been through all this, and can safely say that it does get better. We always need our support groups. Believe me, I've already had someone look at me and say, "If you don't let someone else help you with all that stuff you've got bottled up, it's going to kill you." And that was like the second time I ever met the guy. Since then, he's proven himself a very cool friend. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I commend you for opening up to us. It takes a lot of strength and courage to do that.

Originally posted by ILoveLucyfan4eva


Yeah I think I'm shy because of lack of confidence in myself as well. I'm always afraid of drawing attention to myself and saying the wrong thing, which is why I'm a perfectionist.


I know those feelings well. I am finally coming to the point where I no longer care what everyone thinks of me. I used to be so wrapped up in images and trying to be the perfect student/daughter/person. I was terrified of having people think poorly of me. Adults always said to other kids, "Why can't you be more like her?" Because I did and spoke the right things. But, I was never relaxed, or confident, nor did I ever have what I could really describe as fun. Now, I just do stuff. I don't care what everyone thinks of me, because I've learned that this is my life, not theirs. I want to try new experiences, and if that seems irresponsible to some people, then oh well. I still slip back into the pattern of trying to please other people. And I see nothing wrong with pleasing others. But, I still have to be comfortable with myself to not care what everyone thinks. After all, I have to live with myself a lot longer than I have to interact with everyone else.

Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
oh I strongly agree with you Jenny I strongly believe it was THAT teachers fault that I cant talk to strangers without getting FREAKED OUT I mean my brother had even told me BEFORE I had that teacher I'd go up to complete strangers and talk to them (which okay in today society might not be a good thing but BACK then it wasnt a problem) but AFTER that happened I completeley shut down I OFTEN wonder if that teacher ever got fired or what happened cause I'D REALLY like to know

That's truly sad. I just hope somebody reported that teacher. It'd be awful if this teacher taught for years after teaching you and she kept intimidating all the other students. If she did keep teaching, I wouldn't be surprised if some people have the same case you do, Caitlin.

Originally posted by Jenny
That's how I feel sometimes. I like having my alone time. I don't want to be crowded beside a bunch of people. Whenever one of my relatives comes and visit, I just feel like staying in my room. I just don't care how it looks to others. Sometimes I don't feel like socializing and other times I do.

The thing I always hated involved school. I'm another one of these quiet people. I'm loud around my friends, but I'm quiet around people I don't know. Anyway, I always hated it when the teachers would pair you into groups and it seemed like everytime I would end up with somebody I just flat out didn't like or the ones I didn't know. I love group work if I could pair up with my friends, but I just stayed quiet if it was with people I didn't know.

Sometimes people just don't know when to shut up and leave me alone. They wanna talk to me and I don't want them to. But you can't exactly tell your family, "Get the hell away from me!"

And I F-ing DESPISE group work.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
I didnt post this for sympathy, its to discuss depression and i posted my case. The topic is "depression" not "boo ****in hoo i have depression and my life is a mess". I dont "feel sorry for myself" either, i am actually trying to overcome depression, i have help, so im not just whining and wanting ppl to feel sorry for me cuz i know that does nothing.

Sympathy is only good when you can pass the problem off to someone else, which we all know, unlike a cold, is impossible. So don't waste your breath tell me you feel sorry for me when you don't even have a clue.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
And I F-ing DESPISE group work.

Amen to that! I only like group work unless my friends are in a class with me but if not I work by myself if I can.

Originally posted by Jenny


That's truly sad. I just hope somebody reported that teacher. It'd be awful if this teacher taught for years after teaching you and she kept intimidating all the other students. If she did keep teaching, I wouldn't be surprised if some people have the same case you do, Caitlin. Yeah I know (it was a he by the way) I really wonder I wanna know what else happened My Therapist told me I should ask my brother and see what he says but I'm like "WHAT IF HE DOESNT wanna open up either??" who knows maybe I should though

I have been taking Zoloft since Oct. Sometimes it helps, and sometimes it doesn't. Some days are good, and then other days I am crying....Some times I would like to take my life, but then some how I pull myself out of it I don't know it is just strange. On the really bad days though my saying is....Life sucks then you die....So why aren't I dead yet???

I am wondering, are any of you people of faith? I mean, do any of you practice a religion or anything?

I'm not trying to be stupid or anything. I actually know how most of you are feeling. I don't have sever depression, the kind that you need medication for. But, I've always suffered from it in a way. I've always been a complete introvert. I have very little and at times no self confidence. In fact, I've been borderline anorexic for alot of years now. Anyway, I don't want to go into all of it. But, the reason I ask about religion or faith is because that is what has helped me throughout the years. In fact, it is dramatically helped me in the past year or so. The bible has alot to say about people who are saved, and how they can have confidence.
Before you all take offense, and want to jump down my throat, I'm not saying that if you get saved, or have beliefs that you will be totally fine. I've had problems for years, and have been saved since for years. I'm just saying that maybe some of you might find help from it. Think of it as sort of a suppliment to your medication. Don't drop the meds or anything. A Chemical imbalance is a definate problem, and if you need medication, then by all means, take it.

Anyway, I hope I haven't offended any of you. I wish you all well with whatever form of treatment you participate in. I was just trying to help. You can take what I say and see for youself, or you can just forget about it. It is totally your decision. Like I said, I was just trying to help.

:)

Originally posted by 1strunfan
I am wondering, are any of you people of faith? I mean, do any of you practice a religion or anything?

I'm not trying to be stupid or anything. I actually know how most of you are feeling. I don't have sever depression, the kind that you need medication for. But, I've always suffered from it in a way. I've always been a complete introvert. I have very little and at times no self confidence. In fact, I've been borderline anorexic for alot of years now. Anyway, I don't want to go into all of it. But, the reason I ask about religion or faith is because that is what has helped me throughout the years. In fact, it is dramatically helped me in the past year or so. The bible has alot to say about people who are saved, and how they can have confidence.
Before you all take offense, and want to jump down my throat, I'm not saying that if you get saved, or have beliefs that you will be totally fine. I've had problems for years, and have been saved since for years. I'm just saying that maybe some of you might find help from it. Think of it as sort of a suppliment to your medication. Don't drop the meds or anything. A Chemical imbalance is a definate problem, and if you need medication, then by all means, take it.

Anyway, I hope I haven't offended any of you. I wish you all well with whatever form of treatment you participate in. I was just trying to help. You can take what I say and see for youself, or you can just forget about it. It is totally your decision. Like I said, I was just trying to help.

:)
What u said was ok. :) Since ive gotten depression ive been trying to obey God more and it helps sometimes.

Originally posted by dawsongirl


Sometimes people just don't know when to shut up and leave me alone. They wanna talk to me and I don't want them to. But you can't exactly tell your family, "Get the hell away from me!"

And I F-ing DESPISE group work. You're right on, DawsonGirl. I mean, when I go to my Great-Grandmother's (she's 101 years old), she just stares at me. I don't like that, but I have to stay there and sit. I would run off and just sit in a room but that wouldn't make a good reflection, but DADDY would go right HOME 200 MILES AND LECTURE ME FOR AN HOUR, so I have to sit, and I hate it.

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne

What u said was ok. :) Since ive gotten depression ive been trying to obey God more and it helps sometimes. Atta girl!:)

Originally posted by 1strunfan
I am wondering, are any of you people of faith? I mean, do any of you practice a religion or anything?

I'm not trying to be stupid or anything. I actually know how most of you are feeling. I don't have sever depression, the kind that you need medication for. But, I've always suffered from it in a way. I've always been a complete introvert. I have very little and at times no self confidence. In fact, I've been borderline anorexic for alot of years now. Anyway, I don't want to go into all of it. But, the reason I ask about religion or faith is because that is what has helped me throughout the years. In fact, it is dramatically helped me in the past year or so. The bible has alot to say about people who are saved, and how they can have confidence.
Before you all take offense, and want to jump down my throat, I'm not saying that if you get saved, or have beliefs that you will be totally fine. I've had problems for years, and have been saved since for years. I'm just saying that maybe some of you might find help from it. Think of it as sort of a suppliment to your medication. Don't drop the meds or anything. A Chemical imbalance is a definate problem, and if you need medication, then by all means, take it


Welp that's the opposite of me, suprisingly. I was never religious in the first place, I tried it for about 3 months but I just couldn't do it. (People who are religious, I advise you not to read this) I think the Bible is a bunch of .... and if there is some 'God' or whatever up in 'Heaven', then He certainly doesn't like me. He wouldn't be punishing me like this. But I find God and the Bible to be unreal so yeah, I'm an athiest.

Originally posted by Miss Karly

I think the Bible is a bunch of .... and if there is some 'God' or whatever up in 'Heaven', then He certainly doesn't like me. He wouldn't be punishing me like this. But I find God and the Bible to be unreal so yeah, I'm an athiest.

I'm really sorry that you feel that way. Just because I am a Christian doesn't mean that I'm judging you. I'm sure you have good reasons for being an athiest. Not that I agree with you, but it is your choice. Please don't be offended by anything I say.

(:) PS: If there is ever anything that I could do or say to help, I'd be glad to. Not that I have all the answers, but I'd be willing to try and help. I only wish you'd experience the God that I know. I'm sure that He'd make a difference. Because, He loves You! Believe it or not. ):)

Originally posted by 1strunfan


I'm really sorry that you feel that way. Just because I am a Christian doesn't mean that I'm judging you. I'm sure you have good reasons for being an athiest. Not that I agree with you, but it is your choice. Please don't be offended by anything I say.

(:) PS: If there is ever anything that I could do or say to help, I'd be glad to. Not that I have all the answers, but I'd be willing to try and help. I only wish you'd experience the God that I know. I'm sure that He'd make a difference. Because, He loves You! Believe it or not. ):)

I'm an athiest. You aren't going to change peoples opinions with your bull**** either.

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne


I'm an athiest. You aren't going to change peoples opinions with your bull**** either.

I'm not trying to change your opinion, or anyone else's. You have every right to have whatever opinion you want. Miss Karly said she tried religion and it didn't work for her. I was saying that I'd be happy to help her if she thought I could, if not, so be it. I'm not trying to change anyone.

Originally posted by 1strunfan


I'm not trying to change your opinion, or anyone else's. You have every right to have whatever opinion you want. Miss Karly said she tried religion and it didn't work for her. I was saying that I'd be happy to help her if she thought I could, if not, so be it. I'm not trying to change anyone.

help means change. you can't be something you're not...

Help doesn't always mean change. And, I'm not trying to be something I'm not and I don't want anyone else to try to either.

I'm sorry if my posting has offended you. By all means, don't change if you don't want to.

Originally posted by 1strunfan
Help doesn't always mean change. And, I'm not trying to be something I'm not and I don't want anyone else to try to either.

I'm sorry if my posting has offended you. By all means, don't change if you don't want to.

I never said you were trying to be something you weren't. I used 'you' for my point. Ya know like when people go 'be all you can be' that doesn't mean it's meant to one person... Well then let me "help" you with being an athiest.

Originally posted by 1strunfan
I am wondering, are any of you people of faith? I mean, do any of you practice a religion or anything?


No, not really, and I don't plan on it. I believe in God, but not organized religion. And I don't think a book would help. But I do see what you're saying. :)

Originally posted by 1strunfan
I am wondering, are any of you people of faith? I mean, do any of you practice a religion or anything?



yes, Im Christian and i think it can make a difference- ive never really had problems with confidence, but it can help your overall outlook on life. Only I do have a slight chemical imbalance issue so thats not something that confidence can fix.