Today I saw The Jeffersons on the set of Good Times. No lie, they were shown two times in the episode "J.J in Trouble". Michael and J.J were reading a EBONY Magazine and George, Louise and Mother jefferson were on the front-clear as day. I never noticed that before.

If that's true, that would screw up that sitcoms universe. Technically, the Jeffersons and the Evans are both linked to Maude and Archie Bunker. So in that universe, there was no such shows as All in the Family and The Jeffersons because they were real! WEIIIIIIIIRD! ;)

Originally posted by briandamage
If that's true, that would screw up that sitcoms universe. Technically, the Jeffersons and the Evans are both linked to Maude and Archie Bunker. So in that universe, there was no such shows as All in the Family and The Jeffersons because they were real! WEIIIIIIIIRD! ;)

So can we call this a blooper that Michael and J.J made since they held the EBONY magazine up high enough for me to see the Jeffersons? Was I supposed to see it ?

Maybe it was an inside joke.(Something that the producers snuck in the shot)

Originally posted by briandamage
Maybe it was an inside joke.(Something that the producers snuck in the shot)


That's what I was thinking too. Maybe it was down purposely by the producers.

It certainly sounds like it.

Originally posted by SOLOMON
Today I saw The Jeffersons on the set of Good Times. No lie, they were shown two times in the episode "J.J in Trouble". Michael and J.J were reading a EBONY Magazine and George, Louise and Mother jefferson were on the front-clear as day. I never noticed that before.

Oh, yeah. I know that. I remember that when I was viewing that from the Columbia House Collection. I did not see Mother Jefferson on the cover. I need to play the tape back and check it again. BTW I did get your e-mail.. my account was disabled due to too many messages.

Originally posted by ThomasE


Oh, yeah. I know that. I remember that when I was viewing that from the Columbia House Collection. I did not see Mother Jefferson on the cover. I need to play the tape back and check it again. BTW I did get your e-mail.. my account was disabled due to too many messages.

I don't think i ever received the email but George was in between Louise and Mother Jefferson on the cover of EBONY.

Good Times was probably not in the same sitcom universe as Maude, AITF, and the Jeffersons because Florida Evans in Maude was a different Florida Evans in Good Times because of the Henry/James and Chicago/Tuckahoe situations that we have discussed before. This would put Maude and Good Times in separate universes and since Maude and the Jeffersons were in the same universe (Maude and George both hated Archie!) this would make Good Times in a different universe than the Jeffersons.

However, in the unlikely scenario that Henry was James real first name since his father was Henry, and that Florida decided to start calling him James, and that their family always lived in Chicago even though Florida was Maude's maid in Tuckahoe, New York, that would put Good Times in the same universe as the Jeffersons. (Remeber the scifi series Sliders about different universes, that is always how I imagined that TV characters were) It is possible that George, being a successful businessman, could have been featured in Ebony as George Jefferson, not as Sherman Hemsley the actor, in the Good Times universe.

But since Mike Evans created Good Times and was also the original Lionel Jefferson, it was most likely an inside joke.

Originally posted by jon123
Good Times was probably not in the same sitcom universe as Maude, AITF, and the Jeffersons because Florida Evans in Maude was a different Florida Evans in Good Times because of the Henry/James and Chicago/Tuckahoe situations that we have discussed before. This would put Maude and Good Times in separate universes and since Maude and the Jeffersons were in the same universe (Maude and George both hated Archie!) this would make Good Times in a different universe than the Jeffersons.

However, in the unlikely scenario that Henry was James real first name since his father was Henry, and that Florida decided to start calling him James, and that their family always lived in Chicago even though Florida was Maude's maid in Tuckahoe, New York, that would put Good Times in the same universe as the Jeffersons. (Remeber the scifi series Sliders about different universes, that is always how I imagined that TV characters were) It is possible that George, being a successful businessman, could have been featured in Ebony as George Jefferson, not as Sherman Hemsley the actor, in the Good Times universe.

But since Mike Evans created Good Times and was also the original Lionel Jefferson, it was most likely an inside joke.

I wonder why none of the Good Times characters mentioned the Jffersons like they mentioned Sanford and Son. J.J, Thelma and Florida mentioned Redd Foxx but not Sherman Hemsley. Maybe Mike Evans didn't think it was a good idea.

Sanford and Son was definetely in a different universe than AITF, Maude, Jeffersons, Good Times and even more important, it was on a different network!(NBC, all the other shows were CBS)

Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool if the characters from Good Times, The Jeffersons, and Sanford and Son intermingled? Can't you just see the story possibilities? Fred, George and J.J. working a big scam and Lamont, Weezie, Florida and James trying to put a stop to it? Maybe Lionel and Micheal could exchange notes, or Thelma and Jenny, with Aunt Esther's help, can plot the downfall of the scam.

It just boggles the mind!!:crazy:

Oh, I almost forgot...Grady, Marcus and Bookman would be the legmen in this big scheme!!:D

Originally posted by W.J. Griffin
Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool if the characters from Good Times, The Jeffersons, and Sanford and Son intermingled? Can't you just see the story possibilities? Fred, George and J.J. working a big scam and Lamont, Weezie, Florida and James trying to put a stop to it? Maybe Lionel and Micheal could exchange notes, or Thelma and Jenny, with Aunt Esther's help, can plot the downfall of the scam.

It just boggles the mind!!:crazy:


Sounds interesting-LOL

I believing the inside joke scenario. That was probably a way of advertising the other show as well. As far as the other universe thing. They could have close that gap if they had mentioned that they had moved back to Chicago from New York in a Good Times episode.

Originally posted by marvin g
I believing the inside joke scenario. That was probably a way of advertising the other show as well. As far as the other universe thing. They could have close that gap if they had mentioned that they had moved back to Chicago from New York in a Good Times episode.


hOW WOULD THAT HAD CLOSED THE GAP?

Imagine what it would have been like if Michael would have met Archie Bunker.

Originally posted by rlm1626
Imagine what it would have been like if Michael would have met Archie Bunker.


Archie would said-"cute kid you here Evans"

It is unlikely the Evans moved from New York to Chicago. In the episode where Willona wants to have all the grafitti removed from the hallways, J.J. references painting the naked woman eating a bowl of grits when he was twelve. Also, J.J. says he had the same teacher Michael had in school, Mrs. Danvers I do believe and Willona references changing J.J. diapers. There is the remote possibility the Evans moved to New York and then back to Chicago, it is unlikely.

Originally posted by magellan333
It is unlikely the Evans moved from New York to Chicago. In the episode where Willona wants to have all the grafitti removed from the hallways, J.J. references painting the naked woman eating a bowl of grits when he was twelve. Also, J.J. says he had the same teacher Michael had in school, Mrs. Danvers I do believe and Willona references changing J.J. diapers. There is the remote possibility the Evans moved to New York and then back to Chicago, it is unlikely.


Everything you are saying is correct because the show Good Times had nothng to do with NEW YORK.

I posted the New York comment because a former poster eluded to the Evans moving from New York, hence a Maude spin-off.

Originally posted by magellan333
I posted the New York comment because a former poster eluded to the Evans moving from New York, hence a Maude spin-off.


But i was saying New York has nothing to do with Good Times becauase it was a different show. Maude on the hand was based in New York but Good Times was based in Chicago whih means the two shows are not connected. That's why I agreed with you when you said the move was not possible.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
But i was saying New York has nothing to do with Good Times becauase it was a different show. Maude on the hand was based in New York but Good Times was based in Chicago whih means the two shows are not connected. That's why I agreed with you when you said the move was not possible.


Here we go again ..... :happyface

:crazy:

Originally posted by CCH
Here we go again ..... :happyface


Well if u disagree with me tell me why. What supports your agument? And please don't mention a website. Only aticles and books

It's just a fact.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Well if u disagree with me tell me why. What supports your agument? And please don't mention a website. Only aticles and books


Tell me this why do you get to make the rules up what a spin-off is?? You want everyone to see things your way and only your way but thats not how it works.... You and i know Good Times was a spin-off of Maude. I think you Sitcom Analyzer (SOLOMON) have been spin-off to many times .... You know webtv will do that to you :lol:

Originally posted by CCH
Tell me this why do you get to make the rules up what a spin-off is?? You want everyone to see things your way and only your way but thats not how it works.... You and i know Good Times was a spin-off of Maude. I think you Sitcom Analyzer (SOLOMON) have been spin-off to many times .... You know webtv will do that to you :lol:


Well if you feel Good Times is a spinoff, present some supporting material that comes from a book or article. NOT A WEBSITE

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Well if you feel Good Times is a spinoff, present some supporting material that comes from a book or article. NOT A WEBSITE


SOLOMON you just don't get it :argue: Don't worry i'm not giving up on you :smash:

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Well if you feel Good Times is a spinoff, present some supporting material that comes from a book or article. NOT A WEBSITE


By the way Solomon tell me why do you get to make the rules up what a spin-off is??

Originally posted by CCH
By the way Solomon tell me why do you get to make the rules up what a spin-off is??


I'm not making up the Rules, i just had a article with the executive producer saying Good Times is not a spinoff because the Florida Evans character was changed.