View Full Version : IMO, I think TNN should go back to The Nashville Network instead of The National Net.


RainMan
11-15-2002, 07:26 PM
Okay, as of today (except for American Gladiators and MAYBE star trek) I cannot nomore stand The New TNN.

I wish it were the previous TNN because I actually liked The Dukes of Hazzard, Alice, and some other cool shows.

My mom wants it back because she wants Aleene's Creative Living back. It went to Odyssey before it switched to The Hallmark Channel.

All I know is....

BRING BACK THE NASHVILLE NETWORK, THE RIGHT TNN!



Nate

Brian Damage
11-15-2002, 07:47 PM
Thank goodness TNN changed to The National Network. There's just so much Bass fishing, Rodeo and country music a person can stand. And for me that wasn't much!

TVJunkie101
11-15-2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by briandamage
Thank goodness TNN changed to The National Network. There's just so much Bass fishing, Rodeo and country music a person can stand. And for me that wasn't much!

I agree on that, but I miss the actual programming. Up until mid 2001, TNN still aired Starsky and Hutch (which could still fit on The National Network, IMO) and Dukes of Hazzard. It's just a shame at what TNN turned into, they were unique, original and stood out to begin with, why fix something that is not broken?

Brian
11-15-2002, 09:21 PM
I think they are becoming the next N&N. What's next?

DarleneIllyria
11-15-2002, 09:30 PM
Where is that rant button? I'm gonna need it for this post. :rant:

Two good things about the new way they handle TNN

1) They have the Star Trek movie marathon this month. Every Sat. for this month they show the original Star Trek movies. They won't show 1 or 6, but they have shown 2 and 3. 4 will be tomorrow and 5 next week.

2) If Star Trek should leave Scifi, TNN might pick up the show.


The bad things about the way they handle TNN

1) TNN commericials- Anybody sick of seeing Jesse? One of my friends and I were talking about those dumb Jesse ads. They aren't funny. Yes, I'm the kind of gal that loves bathroom jokes, fart jokes, etc- so please don't post back and tell me to get off my high horse and learn to laugh at things like that. Believe me, I already laugh at jokes like that. It's just the ads are so irritating, and they seem to show them so many times.

2) Nothing else worth watching- If they do acquire the original Star Trek series, that will be something worth watching. However, I just don't dig the other shows that come on the channel.

3) The edit jobs- The old TNN used to do an okay job on edits. I don't remember them cutting to a commericial in the middle of someone talking. Too many commericials. I swear, I watched those Star Trek movies and it seems like they show 15 minutes of the movie and go to a commericial, 15 more minutes of movie and some more commericials, etc.

Flash72
11-15-2002, 09:34 PM
I agree that the National Network is inferior to the Nashville Network. The reason I say this is, because, the current state of the network offers up sex-laden programming, including, the inane and has to go Jesse TNN ads. At least when the network was Nashville Network, the programming was clean. Granted, the viewership might have been aimed at small town people, but I would prefer that any day, over the perpetual bikini parade that marches forth across the screen almost daily. Whether it be in the wrestling ring or in the commercials, the old adage that sex sells, seems to permeate every fiber of their schedule. Do not get me wrong, I like to see a pretty girl the same as the next guy, but to be continuously inundated with it, is too much, even for me. And the aforementioned Jesse ads, while sinking to bodily function humor levels, is anything but funny, and if anything, downright annoying as hell.

I must admit at first, I was pleased with the the new network, when Different Strokes and Three's Company joined the lineup; however, slowly but surely, any semblance of enjoyable programming has flown the proverbial coop. I long for the days of "Dukes Of Hazzard," "Alice," and "Starsky and Hutch."

Sean Snow
11-15-2002, 10:29 PM
I wish it would go back to it's old identity. The Nashville Network was one of the first succesful cable channels back in the early 80s, at least that is what I've read. Now TNN just plain sucks lol. The Nashville Network had a few good shows before it changed - "Alice", "The Real McCoys", "Alice", "Dallas", and "The Dukes of Hazzard". And then when it changed it still had some good shows on it - "WKRP in Cincinnati", "Starsky & Hutch", "Newhart", "Taxi" and "The Wonder Years". Then it had a period of sucking really bad, until Febuary when they picked up "Three's Company" and "Diff'rent Strokes". Now they're back to being bad. And another thing . . .





That Black Bar is EVIL!

DarleneIllyria
11-15-2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Sean Snow
And another thing . . .





That Black Bar is EVIL!

Geez, I completely forgot about the black bar in my rant. You can add that to my list of bad things. If they made the bar into just a tiny little strip, I wouldn't mind it as much. When you have it that big, it's just plain out irritating.

RainMan
11-16-2002, 12:11 AM
One thing that pisses me off about the new TNN is all these damn Pamela Anderson Lee things. Oh watch Pamela Lee Anderson ALL DAY THANKSGIVING etc. Like, who wants to see PLA read to kids and bend over and impress men? If you want something like that, watch the Playboy channel or MTV! And I hate that star trek commercial where the two guys are in the room and the guy points to that star trek girl and says "would you" as in "would you **** her?" That is just sick. Of course I like sex and all but they go way over the edge.

And yes about the black bar, I hate their CSI advertisments at the bottom, the animated bar at the bottom is VERY distracting. TNN Needs Skills very badly. Like, when if for example, The Weakest Link aired, you could barely see the clock at the bottom. Well my dad has to make a call and I gotta get offline so I'll complain more in like ten minutes.



Nate

TVJunkie101
11-16-2002, 12:17 AM
I think just about everyone hates what TNN has turned in to. As I said before, a once unique channel, is now down the tubes, and it died, IMO, the day Three's Company left. I mean, absolutely NO sitcoms. TNN was always the one place to find great country shows, Dukes, Starsky, Dallas, Alice (Well, yeah, it aired on TBS and E!), Real McCoys and of course Waltons. Now, it'd probably take a miracle to get them on the air again. Nick at Nite severely jumped the boat with the modern tv hits. They had so many options (Gimme a Break, Perfect Strangers, Empty Nest, Alice, Too Close for Comfort, Good Times, Too Close for Comfort, One Day at a Time, Silver Spoons, What's Happening, etc.) Yea, a few of those shows aired in specials, but still...

I'm pretty ticked at both Nick @ Nite and TNN. I can't even look at them the same way anymore, you know? They're just so different, and when they changed, IMO, it wasn't for the better. I always remember NaN marathons being so much better than this Charles in Charge one. I mean, Scott Baio could at least talk a little about the show, instead of having women fall all over him. Nick at Nite used to be way better. Even all the promos suck. Everytime I see one, I just roll my eyes at how stupid they are. The recent Halloween one with the Jeffersons and Brady Bunch. Even that promo was dumbed up. Do you smell cabbage? The horses underwear, or whatever. LOL, I mean, really. And I found it very interesting that for the Halloween special promo, they only really focused on CLASSIC hits, Jeffersons and The Brady Bunch, with a glimmer of Cosby Show. Again, see, they used the Classic shows to try and pull in an audience, even though the Cosby Show does well.

I think what Nick at Nite should have done was stick to early-mid 80s hits (like the ones I listed above), and Viacom should've put the new modern hits on TNN. That would have been a better idea.

Czas na Zywiec
11-16-2002, 01:01 AM
I loved TNN the best during this past August when they aired Diff'rent Strokes, Three's Company, and then another hour of Diff'rent Strokes. It was my morning lineup and one of the only channels I receive that actually shows classic sitcoms. Now all I have is Hallmark, but all they do is air are those damn Hillbillies and I've seen IDOJ and Bewiitched so many times that I don't even like them all that much anymore. TNN seriously needs to clean up their act and go back to the way they were.

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by RainMan
One thing that pisses me off about the new TNN is all these damn Pamela Anderson Lee things. Oh watch Pamela Lee Anderson ALL DAY THANKSGIVING etc. Like, who wants to see PLA read to kids and bend over and impress men? If you want something like that, watch the Playboy channel or MTV! And I hate that star trek commercial where the two guys are in the room and the guy points to that star trek girl and says "would you" as in "would you **** her?" That is just sick. Of course I like sex and all but they go way over the edge.

And yes about the black bar, I hate their CSI advertisments at the bottom, the animated bar at the bottom is VERY distracting. TNN Needs Skills very badly. Like, when if for example, The Weakest Link aired, you could barely see the clock at the bottom. Well my dad has to make a call and I gotta get offline so I'll complain more in like ten minutes.

Nate

Okay, I know I'm quoting Nate but I've got things to say about the recent posts that came up. I'm quite a firehead when it comes to TNN and some of the crap it does. That 'would ya' commericial aired so many damn times during the ST movies. It is sick.

*snickers* Pamela is known for boobs. Do you think she'll ever win an award for her acting? It's hilarious to me they have so many Pam Anderson specials because she isn't that great of an actress.

Let me just agree to Shawn's post. Seriously, when I was a kid I used to watch Nick at Nite so much. See, when I was younger I loved Beavis and Butthead. Now, that isn't the best thing for an 8 year to watch and my parents forbid me from watching B & B. I'd kind of sneak watch B & B by watching it with the volume run down really low and flipping it to Nick @ Nite whenever mom or dad came into the room. That really made me start liking N @ N. It showed cool shows. It showed a little bit of variety. I didn't have 2 1/2 hours of crap shoved down my throat. Now that I'm 18, it's just gone so far down hill. I only watch Archie over there now. It's ******** to mess with something that isn't broken. It's just dumb.

Chris, oh I agree with you about the Hillbillies. You don't get TVL, right? Would you believe they show 5 episodes of BH everyday? Seriously, I understand that we have some BH fans on here and I'm cool with that. You watch whatever you want and I watch whatever I want. However, 5 episodes is just too much. If they cut it down to 2 episodes, I wouldn't mind as much. I'm wondering if the diehard BH fans feel the same way about cutting down on the airings? Seriously, even the diehard fans are gonna get sick of it. It might be so cool to watch the Hillbillies 5 times a day, but it will get tiresome.

I know a person could like a show, but to have it on too many times is kind of a kiss of death. Let's say I loved 'The Cosby Show'- I'd be sick of it now. I would absolutely be sick of it because it's shown so many times on N @ N.

I want to prove something to those that read my message and think, I bet she wouldn't feel the same way if we were talking about one of her favorite shows. I'll take 'The Twilight Zone' on Scifi for example. TZ comes on for an hour at noon and at hour at midnight. I'm not saying take TZ off completely. Leave the noon airing. Show something else at midnight. Look at all the stuff that Scifi had that doesn't play anymore. I wish they would show 'Night Gallery' again. Yeah, NG wasn't as good as TZ but it's something different. Show Star Trek at midnight. I think Scifi is just about to dump ST because it was on their schedule starting back Dec. 16th and now it's gone. I don't know. Maybe it's for holiday schedules.


Just another one of my long rants

dawsongirl
11-16-2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Jenny
I wish they would show 'Night Gallery' again. Yeah, NG wasn't as good as TZ but it's something different. Show Star Trek at midnight. I think Scifi is just about to dump ST because it was on their schedule starting back Dec. 16th and now it's gone. I don't know. Maybe it's for holiday schedules.


OMG...I looked ahead on my satellite guide a couple days ago to see what the NG ep was, and they're showing freaking Mike Hammer. :mad:

I haven't gotten thru one tape for you and they show Mike Hammer??? Grr...

Okay, so that had nothing to do with TNN, but I haven't watched that in years.

Sean Snow
11-16-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Jenny

I want to prove something to those that read my message and think, I bet she wouldn't feel the same way if we were talking about one of her favorite shows. I'll take 'The Twilight Zone' on Scifi for example. TZ comes on for an hour at noon and at hour at midnight. I'm not saying take TZ off completely. Leave the noon airing. Show something else at midnight. Look at all the stuff that Scifi had that doesn't play anymore. I wish they would show 'Night Gallery' again. Yeah, NG wasn't as good as TZ but it's something different. Show Star Trek at midnight. I think Scifi is just about to dump ST because it was on their schedule starting back Dec. 16th and now it's gone. I don't know. Maybe it's for holiday schedules.


It's probably for the holidays. They're doing the same thing with Dark Shadows - after next week they're nots howing it except for the week of Dec 16-20. Normal schedules are going to resume by January 6th.

N@N used to be great, but to me it started to mess up when the Unrealathon started. Before they started that marathon, they had a mix of shows - The Beverly Hillbillies, I Love Lucy, Gilligan's Island, Three's Company, The Brady Bunch, Diff'rent Strokes, The Facts of Life, All in the Family, The Jeffersons, The Andy Griffith Show, and Laverne & Shirley. I especially liked how they had Revenge of the '80s Sundays for a few weeks. But then they dropped most of their shows. Before they shows were, at the most, shown 3 times a night. Then they started airing Cheers 4 times a night. And then The Cosby Show four times a night, leaving little room in N@N Primetime for any other shows.

Adding some shows to the schedule is a good idea, but first of all, they shouldn't be cutting down on the shows they've already cut down on, they should cut down on the shows that have an [b]excess[/i] of airings. And if they're going to bring in shows, they should bring in some that aren't rerun to death on TV Land, and shows that aren't even sitcoms! Kids Say the Darndest Things probably isn't even classified by anyone as a modern TV classic.

The thing I hate about what has happened to Sci Fi and TNN is that they bring in newer and newer shows, newer shows that suck, at least in my opinion. There are a few classic Sci Fi shows Sci Fi could pick up. And how they squash the credits is terrible! I'm not even going to start on TNN again.

TV Land is a lot better then it's counterparts, though they could cut down on multiple airings of certain shows such as Happy Days and The Brady Bunch. They have a lot of shows in their vaults, and they should take out some lesser seen ones, even if it is just for a once a week airing.

Hallmark changes from time to time from being a good channel, to a very good channel, to a good channel again. I wish ALF was on every day isntead of just Saturdays and that Hart to Hart and The Facts of Life would come back.

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by dawsongirl


OMG...I looked ahead on my satellite guide a couple days ago to see what the NG ep was, and they're showing freaking Mike Hammer. :mad:

I haven't gotten thru one tape for you and they show Mike Hammer??? Grr...

Okay, so that had nothing to do with TNN, but I haven't watched that in years.

Thanks anyway Cathy. I think Columbia House has NG (entire series out) on tape. I bet I can convince my parents to get them for me. Just leave some very obvious clues around the house and they might get the idea. lol

Thanks for trying Cathy. :)

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Sean Snow


It's probably for the holidays. They're doing the same thing with Dark Shadows - after next week they're nots howing it except for the week of Dec 16-20. Normal schedules are going to resume by January 6th.




The thing I hate about what has happened to Sci Fi and TNN is that they bring in newer and newer shows, newer shows that suck, at least in my opinion. There are a few classic Sci Fi shows Sci Fi could pick up. And how they squash the credits is terrible! I'm not even going to start on TNN again.

TV Land is a lot better then it's counterparts, though they could cut down on multiple airings of certain shows such as Happy Days and The Brady Bunch. They have a lot of shows in their vaults, and they should take out some lesser seen ones, even if it is just for a once a week airing.



Yeah, I hope it's just the holiday schedule because I only have 2 tapes of ST. I taped the Chain Reaction marathon they had on the 11th.

If Scifi would add a classic station, I wouldn't mind having a new Scifi station. I got a question about Scifi. Star Trek usually comes on at 6 p.m. over here. WTF is it with The X Files coming on from 7 to 11 p.m.? 4 freaking hours of that? Is it just a marathon or are they actually gonna show 4 hours until the day they drop it?

Agree with you about HD and BB. Like I said in some other posts, I can stomach TBB. I can't stomach it all day though. In small amounts, it's okay. They just run it too much. I'm kind of getting tired of HD. The Ron Howard years are okay to watch, but the way they show it- the RH years would be over within a month and a half.

I sure do wish some of the people that run these channels would stop by these boards and see that we don't like everything they do.

James
11-16-2002, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by RainMan
I wish it were the previous TNN because I actually liked The Dukes of Hazzard, Alice, and some other cool shows.

Same here, Nathan! (I also liked The Waltons.)

Sean Snow
11-16-2002, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Jenny

If Scifi would add a classic station, I wouldn't mind having a new Scifi station. I got a question about Scifi. Star Trek usually comes on at 6 p.m. over here. WTF is it with The X Files coming on from 7 to 11 p.m.? 4 freaking hours of that? Is it just a marathon or are they actually gonna show 4 hours until the day they drop it?


I hope that ends by January. During the entire holiday season, only the X Files is being shown regularly, and The Twilight Zone is being shown sometimes in it's regular spots and sometimes used as fillers between movies. I hope they get over The X Files soon. Four hours in a row is just way too much.

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Sean Snow


I hope they get over The X Files soon. Four hours in a row is just way too much.

I agree. Once again, an hour is just fine. Just think of all the stuff they could be showing during the other 3 hours. What is it with all these stations with the back to back crap?

TVJunkie101
11-16-2002, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Jenny
I agree. Once again, an hour is just fine. Just think of all the stuff they could be showing during the other 3 hours. What is it with all these stations with the back to back crap?

I agree with everyone. I'm a little surprised at Sci-Fi, not really having a schedule for like a month and a half, a big gamble, IMO. I agree though, I would love a Sci-Fi Classics network, they could show Lost in Space, Incredible Hulk, and so many others. Why not even toss in some sitcoms (It's About Time, My Mavorite Martian, etc.). Networks will soon realize that the classic hits did well in their original run, but will eventually (not all of them) fall flat. Nick at Nite made a major mistake airing Cosby and Cheers 4 times a night. They've only had Cosby since March, but it seems like it's been on their for years. And shows such as Gilligan, Facts, Strokes, etc. never even stood a chance. They were on, for what, a year? or less? I mean, here is what Nick at Nite could do, and I honestly would stop complaning (well...).

8:00PM Kids Say the Darndest Things
8:30PM Charles in Charge
9:00PM The Cosby Show
9:30PM Family Ties
10:00PM Coach
10:30PM Cheers
11:00PM Three's Company
11:30PM All in the Family

And then repeat the schedule, like they used to. IMO, that's much better, and it shows only one show and they ALL are in primetime. Nick also needs to bring back the 8:00 and 8:30PM slots.

Anyway, Jenny, to answer your question about the back to back crap, it's just easier on programming directors. I mean, lets look at it like this: "Well, we have Lucy, but who do we pair her with? Ah who cares, just put her in Double Takes and leave it at that." I mean, the execs make it sound like some big difficult decision about programming. They need to give shows more of a chance. I've made numerous TV Land schedules late at nite while bored (LOL) and have every show at a decent time. It's really not all that hard. And if TV Land insists on continuing double takes (which, IMO, were the worst mistake they ever made), show NEW shows there, and then maybe have a third airing in primetime, or late night, or something. Or just even have them exclusive in Twice as Nice, you know.

What I wouldn't give to be programming director, I would definitely shape up these networks (Sci-Fi, TNN, Nick @ Nite, TV Land). Oh, speaking of a Sci-Fi spinoff network, I think Nick/TV Land needs one too, just for black and white classics, or just something to get more B&W (Donna Reed, Dennis, Father Knows Best, Burns and Allen, Patty Duke, etc.) shows on the air.

samanddiane4eva
11-16-2002, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by TVJunkie101
TNN was always the one place to find great country shows, Dukes, Starsky, Dallas, Alice (Well, yeah, it aired on TBS and E!), Real McCoys and of course Waltons. Now, it'd probably take a miracle to get them on the air again.


I definitely have to agree with the great country shows. On Saturday Nite, my family and I would always watch TNN. Then for a while Grand Ole Opry Live was the only thing country on TNN. Thank god it came to CMT.

We could always start a petition to Gaylord which runs TNN and CMT and ask them to bring back some of there country shows or maybe start a TNN classic channel.

Whaddya think?

Amanda

TVJunkie101
11-16-2002, 11:29 AM
A TNN Classic channel would be good. I'd watch. CMT would be a good place to shore up the shows too. Anything would be good.

TVJunkie101
11-16-2002, 11:31 AM
A TNN Classic channel would be good. I'd watch. CMT would be a good place to shore up the shows too. Anything would be good. I'd sign a petition as well.

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by TVJunkie101



Anyway, Jenny, to answer your question about the back to back crap, it's just easier on programming directors. I mean, lets look at it like this: "Well, we have Lucy, but who do we pair her with? Ah who cares, just put her in Double Takes and leave it at that." I mean, the execs make it sound like some big difficult decision about programming. They need to give shows more of a chance. I've made numerous TV Land schedules late at nite while bored (LOL) and have every show at a decent time. It's really not all that hard. And if TV Land insists on continuing double takes (which, IMO, were the worst mistake they ever made), show NEW shows there, and then maybe have a third airing in primetime, or late night, or something. Or just even have them exclusive in Twice as Nice, you know.

What I wouldn't give to be programming director, I would definitely shape up these networks (Sci-Fi, TNN, Nick @ Nite, TV Land). Oh, speaking of a Sci-Fi spinoff network, I think Nick/TV Land needs one too, just for black and white classics, or just something to get more B&W (Donna Reed, Dennis, Father Knows Best, Burns and Allen, Patty Duke, etc.) shows on the air.

Yeah, it is much easier to do double takes. You know how they have those big Twilight Zone marathons during New Years and 4th of July? During one of the marathons last year (maybe it was the 4th of July one from this year) they showed all the hour long episodes back to back. Usually they mix them up and show a few 30 minute episodes maybe 2 one hour episodes and show some more 30 minute episodes. Didn't do that during that time. A bunch of people, including myself believe that season 4 is the weakest episodes of TZ. It had a few episodes that I liked, but most of the hour long ones sucked.

Originally posted by TVJunkie101
I'd watch. CMT would be a good place to shore up the shows too. Anything would be good.


I wouldn't bother with CMT. It's getting as bad as MTV. You know how the main premisis of MTV was Music TeleVision? The only time they show music on MTV anymore is from 2/3 in the morning to about 6. That's just regular music. I don't quite countdown shows. I never count countdown shows. You only see a snippet of the video and then you see them scrolling something like this across the bottom, "I love Eminem's new song. We need to get this classic song to #1. Eminem is soooooooo hot!" Then it breaks up once again for the vocal requests. "EMINEM IS SOOOOOOOO HHHOOOOTTTTTT!" *screams* It's a little difficult to hear the song if you hear a bunch of screaming blocking out the song.

CMT is sort of becoming a mini MTV. CMT now has the junior TRL. They call it Most Wanted Live though. CMT now has the making the video and a rip off of Meeting the Band. If you got a country Road Rules, I bet that will be on there before long.

Czas na Zywiec
11-16-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
CMT is sort of becoming a mini MTV. CMT now has the junior TRL. They call it Most Wanted Live though. CMT now has the making the video and a rip off of Meeting the Band. If you got a country Road Rules, I bet that will be on there before long.

Maybe even a Real World:Nashville or Real World:Arkansas!!

But seriously, I hate TV networks these days. Almost every single network that I used to love has turned into "new age" suff and with the inconvenince of not having TVLand, I'm missing out on the classics. I really wish that Hallmark will bring back Facts in January and maybe even add Diff'rent Strokes, but I know it's a long shot. I guess I just wasn't meant to wach classic tv..........

JT
11-16-2002, 08:00 PM
I smell a dream sked lol (ALL TIMES CENTRAL)

6am: "Star Trek: The Next Generation" (1987-1994)
7am: "Starsky & Hutch" (1976-1979)
8am: "Cagney & Lacey" (1982-1988)
9am: "The A-Team" (1983-1987)
10am: "American Gladiators" (1989-1995?)
11am: "Three's Company" (1977-1984)
11:30: "Three's Company"
12pm: "Alice" (1976-1985)
12:30: "Alice"
1pm: "Diff'rent Strokes" (1978-1986)
1:30: "Diff'rent Strokes"
2pm: "WKRP in Cincinnatti" (1978-1982)
2:30: "WKRP"
3pm: "Newhart" (1982-1990)
3:30: "Newhart"
4pm: "The Real McCoys" (1957-1963)
4:30: "The Real McCoys"
5pm: "MadTV" (1998?-)
5:30: "MadTV"
6pm: "Dallas" (1978-1991)
7pm: MOVIE
9pm: MOVIE
11pm: "Three's Company"
11:30: "Alice"
12am: "Diff'rent Strokes"
12:30: "WKRP"
1am: "Newhart"
1:30: "The Real McCoys"
2am: "Dallas"
3am: "Cagney & Lacey"
4am: "Starsky & Hutch"
5am: "The A-Team"

I'll post weekends later.

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Original Prankster



But seriously, I hate TV networks these days. Almost every single network that I used to love has turned into "new age" suff and with the inconvenince of not having TVLand, I'm missing out on the classics. I really wish that Hallmark will bring back Facts in January and maybe even add Diff'rent Strokes, but I know it's a long shot. I guess I just wasn't meant to wach classic tv..........

Yep, I'm the same way. You see these channels are trying to dedicate their channels to get teens to watch. Unfortunately, they must think all teenagers love to watch new shows and have no idea what old shows are. Like, they had tv shows in the 50s??? Whoa.....I thought it was like invented in the 80s. Are you sure they weren't showing educational stuff back then? That's how must of the people I went to school with acted. Like if I mentioned some old show that I liked, some would add that they watch that show every once in awhile. Most would just look at me like I had landed in my spaceship.

Yes! It might be hard to believe but we do have numerous young people that love to watch stuff from way before they were born. I don't know why the people responsible for programming think all teenagers are so clueless about old stuff. It pisses me off royally when people typecast all teenagers into one mold.

Czas na Zywiec
11-16-2002, 11:30 PM
Okay, ya know what else I hate about TNN? Whenever they have that small, clear logo in the bottom of the screen without the black bar for some programming but not for others. I mean I'm sure the people who watch wresling or those Godfather movies were happy, but I hate the way TNN is biased. I mean THEY HAVE A SMALL CLEAR LOGO they can use, but instead they shove that black bar down our throats. Ya know, TNN should either keep the black bar on all it's programming or take it off everything. It just pisses me off how some shows and specials get special treatment and others are stuck with the bar. Sorry but just had to get that out and I don't know if anyone else feels this way....

DarleneIllyria
11-16-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Original Prankster
Okay, ya know what else I hate about TNN? Whenever they have that small, clear logo in the bottom of the screen without the black bar for some programming but not for others. I mean I'm sure the people who watch wresling or those Godfather movies were happy, but I hate the way TNN is biased. I mean THEY HAVE A SMALL CLEAR LOGO they can use, but instead they shove that black bar down our throats. Ya know, TNN should either keep the black bar on all it's programming or take it off everything. It just pisses me off how some shows and specials get special treatment and others are stuck with the bar. Sorry but just had to get that out and I don't know if anyone else feels this way....

Yep. I hate the way they commericial stuff on the black bar. I was watching ST 4 today and it had most of the time on the black bar "Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home" other times it would commericial the James Bond movies on the bar. I'm sorry, but they showed that commericial every f'n time it went to commericials. I want to watch a movie. I could care less about James Bond when I'm trying to watch something else.

Stormtracker TF
11-17-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by TVJunkie101


I agree on that, but I miss the actual programming. Up until mid 2001, TNN still aired Starsky and Hutch (which could still fit on The National Network, IMO) and Dukes of Hazzard. It's just a shame at what TNN turned into, they were unique, original and stood out to begin with, why fix something that is not broken?

Agreed! It was GREAT, why'd they have to go and mess it up!

Robert Tilton
11-17-2002, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
Where is that rant button? I'm gonna need it for this post. :rant:

Two good things about the new way they handle TNN

1) They have the Star Trek movie marathon this month. Every Sat. for this month they show the original Star Trek movies. They won't show 1 or 6, but they have shown 2 and 3. 4 will be tomorrow and 5 next week.

2) If Star Trek should leave Scifi, TNN might pick up the show.


The bad things about the way they handle TNN

1) TNN commericials- Anybody sick of seeing Jesse? One of my friends and I were talking about those dumb Jesse ads. They aren't funny. Yes, I'm the kind of gal that loves bathroom jokes, fart jokes, etc- so please don't post back and tell me to get off my high horse and learn to laugh at things like that. Believe me, I already laugh at jokes like that. It's just the ads are so irritating, and they seem to show them so many times.

2) Nothing else worth watching- If they do acquire the original Star Trek series, that will be something worth watching. However, I just don't dig the other shows that come on the channel.

3) The edit jobs- The old TNN used to do an okay job on edits. I don't remember them cutting to a commericial in the middle of someone talking. Too many commericials. I swear, I watched those Star Trek movies and it seems like they show 15 minutes of the movie and go to a commericial, 15 more minutes of movie and some more commericials, etc.

Jenny, you've got a good point there. The only things worth watching on TNN are the Star Trek pictures, WWE, and believe it or not James Bond Movies (they start this Tuesday).

In fact, I considered taking away a - point from TNN's F - - - grade on account of Bond. For I have never missed a James Bond movie early or late decision. But with that Black Bar...well...

Uh oh. Rocky Dennis on 'The Mask' is talking to a blind girl on that classic Cher film. Will he make it? Can he get a girlfriend? Let's watch it together.

Gotta run.

DarleneIllyria
11-17-2002, 11:48 PM
The way I see it, they could make it so much easier by removing the black bar. The way I see it, they could do this. When it breaks to commericial they could have a short little announcement (not during the actual movie, but before the first commericial) saying "You are watching Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home on TNN". Then before the movie comes back on, have the snippet play it again. Come on that would be so much easier than having that damn black bar.

Czas na Zywiec
11-18-2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Jenny
The way I see it, they could make it so much easier by removing the black bar. The way I see it, they could do this. When it breaks to commericial they could have a short little announcement (not during the actual movie, but before the first commericial) saying "You are watching Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home on TNN". Then before the movie comes back on, have the snippet play it again. Come on that would be so much easier than having that damn black bar.

They can also bring back Diff'rent Strokes and Three's Company and start airing Facts of Life, but no. They just have to have the new "in" thing with Real TV, Robot Wars, and of course the staple of their network, Pamela Anderson Lee. :rolleyes:

DarleneIllyria
11-18-2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Original Prankster


They can also bring back Diff'rent Strokes and Three's Company and start airing Facts of Life, but no. They just have to have the new "in" thing with Real TV, Robot Wars, and of course the staple of their network, Pamela Anderson Lee. :rolleyes:

I agree with you about DS, 3C and FOL. Sorry, but Robot Wars should be on Tech Tv. In fact, I think they do have Robot Wars over there as is it is. Does anybody really watch stuff like that? Like whoa....where's the remote at? I'm missing my favorite program, the robot wars. Seriously....

AtlantaBravesFan29
11-18-2002, 11:30 AM
Actually,it'll be Pamela Denise Anderson Lee Ritchie,if she marries(or has married) Kid Rock!!!
:lol: :lol:

AJ2086
11-18-2002, 12:20 PM
I hope the old TNN never comes back. It was awful hick television, who would watch that besides hicks? Most hicks dont have access to cable any way. I want the old AMC back with classic movies and no commercials. The new AMC sucks.

Flash72
11-18-2002, 06:30 PM
I have to take umbrage at your post saying only hicks watched the old TNN. Well Lordy, Lordy, I done gone and said one of them thar' fancy words, dontcha know? I's guessin' I'd done been doing more with them thar encyclopeedy pages than usin' em fer toilet pawper.

I preferred the clean, wholesome, TNN of old, showing classic tv shows and best of all, no Jessie; where the most skin you would see would be Daisy Duke in her infamous shorts. Now, all we get are smutty ads, wrestling/monster truck/gladiator bashing programming, with nary a sitcom in site. I think the network should take a close look at themself and ask this question, are we truly "better" than the network of old? The answer is a resounding "no!"

Now if'n you excuse me, I gots to go judge the tobaccey chewin' n' spittin' contest. Y'all come back now, ya hear.

TVJunkie101
11-18-2002, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Flash72
I have to take umbrage at your post saying only hicks watched the old TNN. Well Lordy, Lordy, I done gone and said one of them thar' fancy words, dontcha know? I's guessin' I'd done been doing more with them thar encyclopeedy pages than usin' em fer toilet pawper.

I preferred the clean, wholesome, TNN of old, showing classic tv shows and best of all, no Jessie; where the most skin you would see would be Daisy Duke in her infamous shorts. Now, all we get are smutty ads, wrestling/monster truck/gladiator bashing programming, with nary a sitcom in site. I think the network should take a close look at themself and ask this question, are we truly "better" than the network of old? The answer is a resounding "no!"

Now if'n you excuse me, I gots to go judge the tobaccey chewin' n' spittin' contest. Y'all come back now, ya hear.

Hilarious and RIGHT ON post. I agree with everything. I hate The New TNN. It's awful. AS I've said before, why fix something that isn't broken? I saw no point in them becoming "The New TNN" "The National Network." Okay, yes, when Newhart, WKPR, and others were added, I enjoyed that, but after they left, it just went so downhill. The only reason I ever watched was because of Diff'rent Strokes, and after that left, I started watching Three's Company again, then that left a few months later. TNN is a pathetic mess, Nick at Nite is the same, though a little better than TNN. The only thing I can even bother to give Nick credit for is giving Cheers a cable home (they REALLY need to cut back on it) and adding Charles in Charge. All in the Family, I guess I really don't consider that a Nick at Nite show anymore; I just hope it moves to TV Land soon so when CiC leaves, I wont have any reason to watch Modern TV Hits; I may check out Wings again, but that's all.

DarleneIllyria
11-18-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by TVJunkie101

All in the Family, I guess I really don't consider that a Nick at Nite show anymore; I just hope it moves to TV Land soon so when CiC leaves, I wont have any reason to watch Modern TV Hits;

I'll add a big ditto to that! I'm just sick of N @ N. It just sucks.

ClassicTV4Ever
11-19-2002, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Jenny


I agree with you about DS, 3C and FOL. Sorry, but Robot Wars should be on Tech Tv. In fact, I think they do have Robot Wars over there as is it is. Does anybody really watch stuff like that? Like whoa....where's the remote at? I'm missing my favorite program, the robot wars. Seriously....

I think that's what makes cable TV suck so badly anymore. I remember back in the day when cable channels had their own original genre, and what you found on one channel you would NOT see on another as long as the other channel was airing that. I don't understand why shows have to be practically aired to death and shoved in our faces.

I have to agree with everyone else that TNN is the pits now. I liked it when it was The Nashville Network, and when Viacom bought it and decided to change its image with Alice, TV Bloopers & Practical Jokes, and others. I got real excited when I saw those shows. I thought they were going to turn TNN into a haven for older and missed shows but not run things to death and not show a bunch of filth. But oh no, like someone else said they had to do the "in" thing and show all the reality shows and smut. It's flippin' pathetic.

And to AJ2086, I found your comments to be totally uncalled for. If you don't like country stuff then that's fine, but there was no need for stereotyping.

RainMan
11-19-2002, 02:38 PM
Three Words to say to the new TNN, Nick-at-nite, and other affiliated stations:

Viacom Stations SUCK!



Nate

Brian Damage
11-19-2002, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by AJ2086
I hope the old TNN never comes back. It was awful hick television, who would watch that besides hicks? Most hicks dont have access to cable any way. I want the old AMC back with classic movies and no commercials. The new AMC sucks.

I wouldn't be as harsh as saying only hicks watched the old TNN, but I agree with you. I didn't like the old TNN. The new TNN is more successful then ever before.

I also agree about AMC sucking. I mean since when has Bachelor Party become a movie classic?

DarleneIllyria
11-19-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by RainMan


Viacom Stations SUCK!



Nate

Yep. Question: Did Bill Cosby buy out Viacom or what????!

RainMan
11-19-2002, 09:55 PM
LOL!

I wonder if N@N would buy Night Court, then they could have a great thursday night lineup like it was in the 80s!!!!!!

7pm The Cosby Show
730 Family Ties
8pm Cheers
8:30 Night Court
9PM (if they did buy it) LA Law lol

That's the way it aired from 1985-1989
Which is sweet.

Oh, and is N@N dropping Family Ties?



Nate

DarleneIllyria
11-19-2002, 11:20 PM
*coughs* I've got an idea. We need to delay the burning for a few minutes. I'd love to get my hands on some Beverly Hillbillies tapes so I can put them in the blender and destroy them. When the blender tears up, I can take a chain saw to them. Then maybe we can flush the tape bits down the toilet with the executives and then we can burn it to the ground.

*I realize some people do like BH, but it's just overplayed so much that it's seriously making me sick*

breakdownx
11-20-2002, 12:59 AM
I never watched TNN until ECW came on in August of 99. It was there highest rated show but then they started that we got pop slogan and changed the name and added the WWE. ECW got canceled because it didn't draw the 2.0 rating that TNN wanted but it was still the highest rated show until WWE came on. TNN never gave any support towards ECW so ever since then I've had hatred for that channel but I still watch Raw of course.

RainMan
11-20-2002, 10:17 AM
Sure they can show Star Trek: The Next Generation's brains out but why not The Dukes of Hazzard? It was an 80s program and Star Trek was wasn't it?

I would love to see that show again. Daisy Duke was HOT!



Nate

DarleneIllyria
11-20-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by RainMan
Sure they can show Star Trek: The Next Generation's brains out but why not The Dukes of Hazzard? It was an 80s program and Star Trek was wasn't it?

I would love to see that show again. Daisy Duke was HOT!



Nate

Let me see.....I think the last original Star Trek movie was in 87. Not sure if that's right, so I bet TNG started either really late 80s or early 90s. Not sure though.

DarleneIllyria
11-20-2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Jenny


Let me see.....I think the last original Star Trek movie was in 87. Not sure if that's right, so I bet TNG started either really late 80s or early 90s. Not sure though.

Nope, I got that wrong. Star Trek 6 was in 1991 and TNG started in 1987.

Dianne3
11-22-2002, 06:05 PM
I take offense to AJ2086's comments (page 3), and I live in the city.

I can only imagine how people that live in rural areas would feel.

And, if AJ2086 checks the soap opera ratings, she/he would see not many people give a damn about All My Children.

Anyway, I loved TNN when it was the Nashville Network. I cannot stand TNN now.

TNN is geared toward the 18-49 male. Since I am a female, TNN doesn't care about me anyway, because I am not the audience they want to attract.