In reading Maria's book I got the impression,in fact she said she didn't say no to Freddie.(Well who could those eyes, those dimples!!)
But I wonder if he was spoiled. as his mom she had to say no sometime.
And if she gave him everything-why would he need to beg and borrow money from his mom if he were dealing drugs?
was he really dealing or was that an image he wanted for the press?
Did he borrow money from his mom so she wouldn't wonder where all his money was coming from because I think Freddie and his mom were very protective of each otherand he wouldn't want her to know what he was doing.

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[This message has been edited by Peko (edited 07-20-2001).]

i bet he was a little bit,you couldn`t help it looking at that sweet face.

Freddie was Maria's only child. He had a face that could make you give in alot. I believe he was spoiled but, he had that face!

The only child is always usually spoiled but some are spoiled more than others. He may have worked hard and earned his own money but i think she probaly spoiled him in other ways.

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He sounds like a real charmer & he did have that sweet face as you all have said! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hey Ed Brown, I'm gonna to tell you to get out of my garage for saying that only children are usually spoiled! LOL!!I am one myself and didn't grow up spoiled (honest!!) You can't help the extra attention you might get, because all eyes are focused on you all of the time. I guess it varies on how your parents are. I think more pressure is put on only children to please their parents also. It can be like living in a fish bowl at times. I couldn't charm my parents as good as Freddie did though - my Dad was stricter than Karl!! But I can see my Mom in Maria definetly. I'll forgive you Ed! LOL!!

I do not think Freddie was spoiled. I think that he and his Mom were mutually devoted to each other. She sounds like a hard-working Mom who adored her only child. And it seems that he was very considerate of her, loved her immensely and probably did try to keep alot of things from her, so as not to worry her. Yes, he was a charmer though. Considering, how short Freddie's life was, I feel his Mom is proud that she gave him everything she could, most of all -- her Love.

Originally posted by Peko:
Hey Ed Brown, I'm gonna to tell you to get out of my garage for saying that only children are usually spoiled! LOL!!I am one myself and didn't grow up spoiled (honest!!)

Peko, I am also an only child and i wasnt spoiled either. I guess i have been under the impression that i was the only one who wasnt spoiled but now i know im not alone.


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Hey Ed, that's great. Only children unite!! I think we only children seem to always get a bad rap. It's that darn stereotype every time! I'm sure even Freddie found it hard sometimes, maybe, especially being a guy, he seemed to love his mother very much and all, but Freddie seemed to like his privacy. Maria did mention that in the book. I'll bet that is a result from being a single child to some extent. Freddie seemed to fit the good stereotype, being a leader and ambitious though!

Yes All Only Children Unite!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

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I am also an only child, and I have to admit to being spoiled, still at my age! It can make a person strong, or emotionally troubled. I think Freddie was a combination of both and the emotional troubles won out because of the Hollywood lifestyle.

Freddie's father Karl was also an only child.....

Wow there where alot of cool people who where only children.

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Another only child here too! We can have our own only childs cclub on here! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

It was nice not having to deal with well your sister gets better grades than you do etc... But then when my folks & hubby die I'll be all alone so when that comes I'll be sorry I never had a brother or sister.

I noticed in his moms book there were a couple pictures of grownup Freddie with his Mom & he had his head on his shoulder & looked like he just adored her & felt so safe in her arms... I'm betting that if he hadn't died & his mom were to have died that it would've broke his heart & devastated him & he probably would've cried his heart out..

Amazing how similar Freddie & I are. We're about 5 or 6 yrs apart in age, only children & June babies! Wow!

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Yup we can start the only childs club. Who wants to be the president of the club or should we hold an election?

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I elect Ed Brown as President! Wow - I can't believe there are so many only children on this message board!! I haven't known that many, only a few. Are any of your parents over controlling as a result of being an "only"? I agree with Mariposa about the effects of being the only. It's not always the best thing. I guess it effects people in different ways. Sometimes I thought it would be nice to have a brother or sister, just to take the focus off of me for a change. Like I said before, it can tend to be like living in a fish bowl as far as your parents and relatives are concerned. I remember some people seemed to make a big deal out of the fact that I didn't have any siblings. They seemed to show pity on you, which was unbelievable! That in itself can be damaging when you're young. Maybe that's why I'm sort of defensive about it. Have any of you experienced that?

Hey, also, do any of you think it's strange that Freddie's half siblings weren't really close to him at all. There's too not much mention of them in the book.

[This message has been edited by Peko (edited 05-29-2001).]

Been my experince as an old child that the parents worry more about your being out late etc...

In his moms book it talks like after Kathy divorced him, he went & talked to his half-brother about it & cried when telling him about it...

I think it really is hard to say what kind of relationship Freddie had with his 1/2 siblings, nothing is mentioned about much of his family outside of Freddie, Maria and Freddie's uncle Mango(Maria tended to talk more about her side of the family than the others.
I think it would be cool if someone could find out if there's a book out there about Karl's families side of it.

Spoiled? Maybe... Overprotected? Maybe...Why did he put all those poisons into his body and flirt with disaster the way he did? (not to mention marrying the kind of woman he did). It seems like he couldn't fully comprehend the consequences of his actions. Subconsiously, did he expect his mother to come along and make things better again?
I'm not bashing Freddie by any means--I'm just wondering these things from a mother's point of view....It sounds like Maria was a wonderful mother and I feel so bad for her to lose her only child this way http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

I'm about ready to act like a spoiled child now & do an Ed Brown! I put in a bid on autographed card of Freddie that was up for auction on the internet. I put $10 as my top bid I'd pay for it. I HAD the top bid. I WAS happy. Tonite we had to go to the funeral home cuz my hubby Mike's Aunt died. I come home & found out that while we were gone someone outbid me & the auction ended. AVE MARIA PURISMA!!!! (Whatever that means!) & They aren't even anyone that's on here! If they like Freddie/CATM that much they oughta be on here LOL! Boy, I wish I knew how to cuss in Spanish LOL! Oh well, I just had to get that out! LOL! Sigh... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif