Is Edith's Death gonna be on TV?

Originally posted by DVDFreaker
Is Edith's Death gonna be on TV?

It may not be shown on TV LAND. I read that the edith's death episode was taken out of the ABP syndication package. I think the only way to see that episode is to purchase it off the all inthe family sit.com website

Originally posted by CableTV Guy


It may not be shown on TV LAND. I read that the edith's death episode was taken out of the ABP syndication package. I think the only way to see that episode is to purchase it off the all inthe family sit.com website

No that is NOT true. It WILL air on TV Land.

Originally posted by pavanbadal


No that is NOT true. It WILL air on TV Land.

Well do you know if it that Edith's Death Episode will be showed on TV LAND before November or by the first week of November? I never got a chance to see it-and thought it was out of the syndication package.

I was wondering the same thing.

I have never seen the Edith Death Episode.

I saw ABP this week and it involved Stephanie's homework assignment.

I assume I missed the episode.

No, you didn't miss it. TV Land is showing the first season right now, and Edith wasn't killed off until the beginning of the second season. I'd be surprised if they don't show it, unless they only bought a limited number of episodes. But when ABP was shown in syndication here in Boston, it included "Archie Alone".

I used to watch Archie Bunker's Place when it was on CBS. I am not sure they had an ep where Edith actually died. I remember they opened the 1980-81 season with an hour long ep with Stephanie and Archie trying to pick up the pieces about a month after Edith's death. I thought Edith's death was never actually shown.
Say, I'm happy they are finally airing reruns of this sequel show on TV Land. They've played All in The Family reruns to no end long enough.

You're right, but I think people are referring to "Archie Alone", the grief episode, when they mention the episode about Edith's death. Well, at least that's what I have been referring to :)

Originally posted by Nedrta
I used to watch Archie Bunker's Place when it was on CBS. I am not sure they had an ep where Edith actually died. I remember they opened the 1980-81 season with an hour long ep with Stephanie and Archie trying to pick up the pieces about a month after Edith's death. I thought Edith's death was never actually shown.
Say, I'm happy they are finally airing reruns of this sequel show on TV Land. They've played All in The Family reruns to no end long enough.


Yeah, that was Archie Alone. It doesn't show Edith's death, but Archie Alone takes place like a month after Edith's death.

Originally posted by Jenny



Yeah, that was Archie Alone. It doesn't show Edith's death, but Archie Alone takes place like a month after Edith's death.

So what is title of the ABP episode when Archie says to Edith-You had no right to leave me this way or something like that.

Originally posted by CableTV Guy


So what is title of the ABP episode when Archie says to Edith-You had no right to leave me this way or something like that.

That is Archie Alone! Have you been reading these posts or what?

Originally posted by pavanbadal


That is Archie Alone! Have you been reading these posts or what?
He simply asked about a quote by Archie, which I might add, was NOT mentioned in this thread.
Have YOU been reading these posts or what?

Does anyone know the date the episode will air?

Originally posted by JanLady617

He simply asked about a quote by Archie, which I might add, was NOT mentioned in this thread.
Have YOU been reading these posts or what?

Well it is obvious that that is the episode we are all talking about. I read every posts on these boards.

Originally posted by JanLady617
Does anyone know the date the episode will air?

No set date as of yet. Sometime in November it will air.

Originally posted by pavanbadal


Well it is obvious that that is the episode we are all talking about. I read every posts on these boards.
He was asking about a QUOTE which could have been from another episode. It's not nice to try and make someone feel stupid for asking a simple question.

Originally posted by JanLady617

He was asking about a QUOTE which could have been from another episode. It's not nice to try and make someone feel stupid for asking a simple question.

Well in what other episode would Archie say that? The first time they mentioned that Edith had passed away was in the 2-parter "Archie Alone." I think we should move on, enough is enough. So much arguing lately everywhere.

Originally posted by pavanbadal


Well in what other episode would Archie say that? The first time they mentioned that Edith had passed away was in the 2-parter "Archie Alone." I think we should move on, enough is enough. So much arguing lately everywhere.
Sure, let's move on after you have the last word. I've seen about three episodes of ABP in my entire life, so Archie could've said that in any episode as far as I know. You should try to remember that not everyone possesses your vast knowledge of television shows.

double post

Thank you for the news Pav. I was just wondering something though. Do you think they will air every episode, or do you think they might get to season 3 or get in the middle of season 4 and then drop it? I've been driving myself crazy doing the math figures in my head. I remember your post saying tvland might not have it after Dec. 31.

Thank you so much Pav. :)

Originally posted by Jenny
Thank you for the news Pav. I was just wondering something though. Do you think they will air every episode, or do you think they might get to season 3 or get in the middle of season 4 and then drop it? I've been driving myself crazy doing the math figures in my head. I remember your post saying tvland might not have it after Dec. 31.

Thank you so much Pav. :)

Well it all depends, because TVL might go back to episode 1 like they did with almost every other Screen Gem deal show.
November episodic info is not in. Good news is ABP will air thru Dec 31. I know episode 81 and the last one are airing in box sets, and Archie Alone WILL be airing some point in Nov.

Should season 3 air in Dec. We should see the 2 part episodes of Growing up is hard to do and Gloria Comes Home.

Fingers crossed and holding my breath!

Originally posted ckp
Should season 3 air in Dec. We should see the 2 part episodes of Growing up is hard to do and Gloria Comes Home.

Fingers crossed and holding my breath!

LOL, I *hope* they air the whole series, I'm trying to get it on tape, I hope they just stop in the middle of the series and stop airing it or even go back, I'm waiting to see the upcoming episodes!

id like to see it.

:) Archie Alone will air in both parts Monday and Tuesday November 4th and 5th. the scene where he holds her slipper and cries is too real for me to watch! Carroll's acting WAS so real that it's hard to sell this episode in syndication! that scene in particular always gives me chills!

I originally saw Archie Alone at the Museum of Broadcast communications in 1998 in it's entirety. It was the original 50 minute CBS version.

In March of 1999 here in the Chicago area, WCIU-TV 26 aired episodes on a weekly basis and in May, they aired "Archie Alone" as a special. I was lucky enough to tape it and another episode TVLAND might or might not air. The episode aired as a special in December was called "Father Christmas" where Archie's brother Fred comes by for the holidays. Billie is Fred's daughter and there is some conflict between them. I'll have to re-watch it to see what was on there.

Anyway, I wonder how TVLAND will air it. Sometimes TVLAND airs a different edited version than versions that are on regular independant stations.

I'm relieved that they didn't show her actual death and funeral. I don't think I could handle it.

I agree. I think that it was very potent and very touching without showing Edith die or actually showing a funeral. I'm sure that they planned for a funeral, but Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers declined to appear. In the E! True Hollywood story, Rob Reiner said that they threw a lot of money at the two to rejoin the cast. They declined, and then Sally Struthers re-joined in 1982. Going back to "Archie Alone", that episode won a Peabody Award and was considered the most popular episode of "Archie Bunker's Place".

I hope Tvland will show it.

Originally posted by julian bozo
I hope Tvland will show it.

They'll be showing it. Check tvlands schedule.

It must be heartbreaking for Edith pass away, I'm sure many fans couldn't watch, because they feel they know her so well, just by her character. They would miss her to much, it just wouldn't be the same to lose a loved one. I've been waiting to see "Archie Alone" and from what I've heard this should be one of the best episodes yet.

According to tvguide.com "Archie Alone" will air Monday night at 11:00pm and Tuesday 11:00pm. These times that I am giving you are Central standard times.

For the East Coast, they are an hour ahead making them midnight.

For the West Coast they are two hours behind Central time making it 9:00.

On Wednesday, they will air "Home Again" where Archie thinks about selling the house. It has Marica Rodd in it too (she was the alleged "mother" of Mike Sticicks alleged baby in one episode and she played Carol in the Maude pilot before Adrienne Barbeu). It probably is the best place for tvland to leave off.

On Thursday and Friday, they will start over with the 2-part pilot for this sequel.

I've been waiting forever to see this episode(s) although I'm sure it's a tearjerker. :(

Originally posted by JanLady617
I've been waiting forever to see this episode(s) although I'm sure it's a tearjerker. :(

Oh yeah, I've got my box of kleenex ready. I know I'll prob. use the whole box up watching the episodes.

Originally posted by Jenny


Oh yeah, I've got my box of kleenex ready. I know I'll prob. use the whole box up watching the episodes.
Jenny, have you seen it before?

Originally posted by JanLady617

Jenny, have you seen it before?

I've never seen them before. I'm really excited about seeing them though. ThomasE posted the script to Archie Alone along with his fanfic and let me just put it this way. I cried so hard just by reading the script and the fanfic, so I know I'll probably flood the town out just by watching the episodes.

Did you cry? What happened? What was your reaction? When I think back to the fan fic, that gave me chills after reading it and picturing those characters in the scenes, whoa.

Originally posted by ThomasE
Did you cry? What happened? What was your reaction? When I think back to the fan fic, that gave me chills after reading it and picturing those characters in the scenes, whoa.

I cried a little bit with part 1. It was just so sad. I can't wait to see part 2. I'm afraid we might have bad weather tonight. See, we are under a tornado watch and it will be my luck if the electricity goes off. Ah, I hope I can see part 2. It gave me chills and tears too when I read your fanfic and pictured the scenes too.

Originally posted by Jenny


I cried a little bit with part 1. It was just so sad. I can't wait to see part 2. I'm afraid we might have bad weather tonight. See, we are under a tornado watch and it will be my luck if the electricity goes off. Ah, I hope I can see part 2. It gave me chills and tears too when I read your fanfic and pictured the scenes too.

Ahh same here. I hate these stupid Georgia storms. :(. Right now we're not under a watch but there's always a chance up here . . . never can trust the weatherman. I like rain and thunder but not when something good is on. :(

Originally posted by Sean Snow

I like rain and thunder but not when something good is on. :(

I agree. Let's just hope that if the electricity does go off, it goes off after ABP goes off. *crosses fingers*

Yes! I got the second part. My eyes hurt from crying so much. I hope Carroll got an award for that episode, because he sure deserved one.

I saw the episode too, it was really sad, yeah, I think he won that award for that performance but I don't remember which award he won, can anybody confirm this?

I thought Tv Land did a great job with the episode! There were a few edits, but I think they were careful and kept the best parts in. The only real significant edit I noticed in the episode was that they cut the scene where Archie goes into Stephanie's room as she's doing her homework, and Stephanie asks him if he wants to talk. I think there were a couple more edits, but nothing too significant.

I thought the saddest scene, aside from the final bedroom scene of course was when the woman came to the door to drop of Edith's cosmetics. Seeing Archie's quick, and abrupt answers to her questions made it obvious to see how much he was hurting. I also noticed his eyes seemed to be very watery the whole episode. Maybe that was just my eyes playing tricks on me, but it was pretty obvious to me that Carroll didn't have to do much acting in this episode. I think to some degree his sadness was very real. You can't work with someone for 9 years, and suddenly have there presence gone, and not be affected.

But anyway I thought the episode was great, and I hope everyone out there caught it!

In a way, I kinda hate those episodes. Only because they were so sad. I really don't want to watch those episodes again. It really, really got to me when Archie was in his bedroom, holding ths slipper and crying. I had a few tears myself. It was just so sad.

I don't know if anybody has seen this...

Originally posted by DVDFreaker
I saw the episode too, it was really sad, yeah, I think he won that award for that performance but I don't remember which award he won, can anybody confirm this?

Yeah, it was the Peabody Award. I can confirm this because I have read about it in my TV encyclopedia and when I saw it at the Museum of Broadcast Communications, a Peabody logo flashed before the "CBS Special Presentation" intro.

Greg,

You read my mind. I was gonna post about any promotion done for the episodes. Thanks for posting that pic.

I think it may be hard for Archie to move on with his daily life, but losing his wife, is a hard to let go of. The fact that Archie was distressed made it a very depressing episode. Everybody was in a disturbed mood, which made the characters express their feelings and grieve with sorrow made it a very upsetting episode, Stephanie was deeply miserable also, she even left her school to recuperate and take the time to spend the time alone with herself, and take a keepsake from Edith to remember her by. Archie objected that Stephanie didn’t need her councilor to give her comments and suggestions, but things didn’t work out that well, until Archie let her pick out something. The bar was deeply saddened by this tragedy also, the bar seemed gloomy empty hearted. Archie didn’t even have the courage to sign the papers after Edith’s death and demanded that he wanted them sent to Gloria, because he was mournful of his wife and earned to be back with her again. One of the most sorrowful scenes was where the make-up lady came to the door to give Edith her beauty supplies, and Archie admitted she wasn’t home, hiding the fact that she had passed away. The whole episode was very moving; I thought this was definitely the best performance done on the series.

Originally posted by Gregorio
I don't know if anybody has seen this...

Yeah, I saw that about 2 years back. I wish I actully had the cover itself.

*sadness* I saw it, but had to tape over it. The video I taped it on turned out to be defective :( Hopefully TV Land will be repeating part two sometime this December.

I thought part two was better then part one. I especially liked the scene towards the end with Archie in his bedroom. So sad.

Originally posted by Sean Snow
*sadness* I saw it, but had to tape over it. The video I taped it on turned out to be defective :( Hopefully TV Land will be repeating part two sometime this December.

I thought part two was better then part one. I especially liked the scene towards the end with Archie in his bedroom. So sad.

That's too bad that your tape was defective. I hope they show it again too so you can record it again.

For the next 3 years, the mood seemed to be gloomy and depressing, even in the episode when Gloria returns.

Archie Alone wiped me out. It had to be one of the saddest moments in television history. Carroll O'Connor deserved an Emmy for his performance. Even before the famous 'slipper' scene, there was such a sadness in his eyes. He had very expressive eyes anyway--I always thought so. I'll bet he was sad in real life over the 'death' of Edith. I'm sure he was fond of Jean Stapleton, and was also bonded deeply with the characters of Archie and Edith.
I'm not a viewer of ABP (I may start), so I personally didn't care about all the other characters. It was the first time I had ever seen his neighbor and most of the bar characters.
If I had to choose, I wouldn't liked to have seen Archie thinking back to his days with Edith, while clips of their best moments together were shown. A retrospective would have been nice, but that probably would've been too hard for viewers to take.
Danielle Brisboise?? sorry, did a nice job herself. I'm sure she was struggling with her own emotions during the filming as well.
Powerful, intense, and sad. I cried. My husband did too.

Originally posted by JanLady617
Archie Alone wiped me out. It had to be one of the saddest moments in television history. Carroll O'Connor deserved an Emmy for his performance. Even before the famous 'slipper' scene, there was such a sadness in his eyes. He had very expressive eyes anyway--I always thought so. I'll bet he was sad in real life over the 'death' of Edith. I'm sure he was fond of Jean Stapleton, and was also bonded deeply with the characters of Archie and Edith.
I'm not a viewer of ABP (I may start), so I personally didn't care about all the other characters. It was the first time I had ever seen his neighbor and most of the bar characters.
If I had to choose, I wouldn't liked to have seen Archie thinking back to his days with Edith, while clips of their best moments together were shown. A retrospective would have been nice, but that probably would've been too hard for viewers to take.
Danielle Brisboise?? sorry, did a nice job herself. I'm sure she was struggling with her own emotions during the filming as well.
Powerful, intense, and sad. I cried. My husband did too.

I agree. Danielle did an awesome job on that episode.

The funny thing is, at first I didn't like the Murray character- now I like him. Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the Murray character leave after season 2?

Yes, Martin Balsam left the cast after season 2, I believe by mutual agreement. He made one guest appearance in season 4. To fill the void, Archie's niece Billie(played by Denise Miller) moved in. Although Martin Balsam was a fine actor, there were too many older characters on the show and bringing Billie in helped the show regain some of the spark from AITF Mike and Gloria years.

Originally posted by jon123
Yes, Martin Balsam left the cast after season 2, I believe by mutual agreement. He made one guest appearance in season 4. To fill the void, Archie's niece Billie(played by Denise Miller) moved in. Although Martin Balsam was a fine actor, there were too many older characters on the show and bringing Billie in helped the show regain some of the spark from AITF Mike and Gloria years.

Thanks for answering Jon. Too bad he left the series. I can't believe I didn't recognize him in Psycho or TZ. Geez, I'm obsessed with TZ and I thought the guy in the wax museum episode looked familiar- but I couldn't place him. Martin was great in that episode.

For those wondering what I'm talking about, check out the Twilight Zone episode 'The New Exhibit'. I'm sure it will prob. come on during the big marathon at New Years.