I am interested to know and discuss what people's thoughts are about the E true Hollywood Story about Freddie. Personally, I thought they could have done another hour on his life and career
and some of the information provided was in error as to who was speaking at his funeral service (the speech was credited to Jack Albertson, however, James Komack had given the speech that was used in the program)..Also, why no mention of his original secretary, Diane Rappaport, and of his album, and the TV movie made about him.
What are people's thoughts on Can You hear The Laughter ? The Story of Freddie Prinze ? I liked it, Ira Angustain did a fine job as Prinze, :) and I think they should make a new one and update it. Take care, Freddie fans..:wave:

Hi - I personally didn't like Can you hear the Laughter because it was pure negativity about Freddie. I grew up seeing Freddie back then in the 70's and they really stretched his drug use throughout the whole movie giving him a bad rap. He was a positive entertainer back then and when he was on TV he bought the house down. I thought Ira did look like Freddie a bit though. If they ever made a nother movie on Freddie they should show his positive accomplishments. I don't see movies being done on Marilyn with drug use throughout the whole movies or James Dean and his obsession with driving. Freddie deserves a break. People make mistakes. His son deserves to hear the positive side of his father's life not the negative side all the time. His life was not all about drugs.........

Thanks for hearing me out Comedy lover.. :D

Originally posted by comedylover2002
I am interested to know and discuss what people's thoughts are about the E true Hollywood Story about Freddie. Personally, I thought they could have done another hour on his life and career
and some of the information provided was in error as to who was speaking at his funeral service (the speech was credited to Jack Albertson, however, James Komack had given the speech that was used in the program)..Also, why no mention of his original secretary, Diane Rappaport, and of his album, and the TV movie made about him.
What are people's thoughts on Can You hear The Laughter ? The Story of Freddie Prinze ? I liked it, Ira Angustain did a fine job as Prinze, :) and I think they should make a new one and update it. Take care, Freddie fans..:wave:



I agree, his story should've been 2 hours because I think there were alot of other things in which had happened within his 22 years of living which weren't mentioned. Maybe the producers didn't have enough sources to fill them in on it. Maybe they weren't able reach Maria. I wonder if they had tried to reach his old friend, Nat, from New York City? Or did they not have him in mind at the time? I've also wondered why they didn't mention Diane Rappaport considering the fact that she had been in the picture before Carol and even before he became well-known. :confused:

There are just too many questions regarding why his story was only 1 hour in length.

As for the movie, "Can You Hear The Laughter?", it was pretty obvious that there were some inaccuracies regarding some of the events in which had taken place. Take the shooting scene for instance, the scene had Ira standing while staring at his reflection in the mirror with the gun placed at his temple, while mumbling something to himself when it's clearly stated in Freddie's biography that he was sitting on his couch while Marvin "Dusty" Snyder was on the other end of the coffee table. There was a suicide note on the coffee table in which he had written before he shot himself, and there was also an inaccuracy (regarding the scene) regarding what he (Freddie) had been wearing that morning.

It's possible that it could've been done for dramatical purposes though. All in all, I thought Ira did well with his portrayal of Freddie. He even resembled him a bit in the Inaugural scene and in the scene where he first moved into the Comstock Hotel.

Originally posted by JennyLee22
Hi - I personally didn't like Can you hear the Laughter because it was pure negativity about Freddie. I grew up seeing Freddie back then in the 70's and they really stretched his drug use throughout the whole movie giving him a bad rap. He was a positive entertainer back then and when he was on TV he bought the house down. I thought Ira did look like Freddie a bit though. If they ever made a nother movie on Freddie they should show his positive accomplishments. I don't see movies being done on Marilyn with drug use throughout the whole movies or James Dean and his obsession with driving. Freddie deserves a break. People make mistakes. His son deserves to hear the positive side of his father's life not the negative side all the time. His life was not all about drugs.........

Thanks for hearing me out Comedy lover.. :D

I agree, they made him (Freddie) out to be some kind of ungrateful, spoiled, and violent monster. :(

I DIDN'T LIKE THE MOVIE CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER EITHER BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEGATIVITY ABOUT FREDDIE THE ONLY POSITIVE THING MENTIONED WAS WHEN FREDDIE TOLD HIS FRIEND THAT HE BOUGHT HIS MOM A HOUSE.
I THOUGFHT THE MOVIE MADE KATHY OUT TO BE THE VICTIM AND WHILE TO AN EXTENT SHE WAS,BECAUSE IT MUST HAVE BEEN DIFICULT TO WATCH SOMEONE YOU LOVE SUFFER AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT BUT SHE WAS TO BLAME FOR A LOT OF IT WITH HER SELFISH DEMANDS FOR A MAID AND SUCH.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN THE MOVIE WAS FIRST MADE MARIA AND JACK WERE UPSET AT THE PORTRAYAL OF FREDDIE(NOT DUE TO IRA)BUT THE WRITTING AND WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIE .
IF I AM WRONG ON THIS PLEASE CORRECT ME.
IN REGARDS TO THE E STORY IT WASINTERESTING AND I THOUGHT A LOT MORE ACURATE THAN THE MOVIE BUT KATHY TRIED TO ACT AS IF SHE DID ALL SHE COULD TO HELP HIM BUT IT WAS NO USE. SHE SAYS AT ONE POINT ON THERE THAT IF ASHE HAD BEEN AT THE COMSTOCK THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPEND BUT SINCE HE CALLED HER AT LEAST TWICE TOI SAY WHAT HE WANTED TO DO WHY DIDN'T SHE GET HER BUNS OVER THERE TO STOP HIM THEN, IF SHE WAS SO SURE SHE COULD HAVE?
JUST MY OPINONS HERE, NOT INTENDED TO START TROUBLE

I liked the E! true Hollywood story, but they should had taken more time for research; at least any from Freddie's relatives like Maria or his brothers (He has a brother and a sister from Karl's first marriage) or any of his cousings who can talk about his early years etc.. Instead of getting information from them, they give the position to speak for the family side to Kathy!!! In her comments, she says that if she would have knew about Freddie's decision that night, she would had stop him (Cause she was sooo accesible and helpful to him by that time!!!!)
Go ahead girls!!!, Lets get the darts!!! :mad: ;)

i'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL HEARD THE EXPRESSION:IF LOOKS COULD KILL? WELL KATHY HONEY HERE ARE A FEW!

:mad: :eek: :( :confused: :crying: :bash: :livid: :smash: :angryfire :stupid: :boxing: :( :nonono: :argue:

Rosalyz,
Agreed, they could have and should have done more research on Freddie. Where is his mother, Maria, today ? what about the former manager, David Jonas ? they didn't mention him either. And as you say, any of his relatives...and what about the many TV apprearances he made ? they seemed to keep showing the same images of Freddie and nothing new. Freddie was on The Tonight Show, The Mike Douglas Show, was there any mention of The Million Dollar Rip Off, the Tv movie he starred in ? :) At a scant hour, E told Freddie's story but it was seemingly incomplete for this viewer as well as for others I am sure. God Bless you, Freddie Prinze...You did a great thing, you made the world laugh, and entertained it with style, charisma, charm, and great humor. Thank you for that:cool:

His mom has diabetes real bad & is living in Puerto-Rico with relatives.

And why didn't Kathy try to stop him? & Why did she try to keep him from seeing Jr when she knew that it would just destroy him to not be able to see his son anymore in addition to her divorcing him. I can understand her being afraid for the baby to be around the pills, but if she had allowed supervised visits maybe he might still be here. I wonder if she realizes she made the poor dear cry? :crying: She hit him with a divorce at his worst time when he was getting into the lawsuit with his former manager Jonas. They make her out to be his widow but never mention that she was practically his ex-wife... The poor dear boy was so overwhelmed with it all the lawsuit with Jonas, being shorter on money cuz of all that plus working his butt off to help her pay for a full time maid & a fur coat (The fur coat was out of the generosity of his heart cuz he was happy she was gonna have the baby) & then she basically dumps him when he was at his lowest point. I can't figure out why she wouldn't have waited until things had gotten better for him & the lawsuit was over. If my hubby had bought me a fur coat I sure wouldn't have dumped him! She couldn't have hated being married to him that much. I'm sure the pills kept him from being his normal self & probably made him do strange things but not enough to cause someone to just break his heart when he was at his lowest point. If she was so desperate to get away from him, why not just have a trial seperation instead of a permanent one? Then maybe he might still be here... Marriage ain't easy but you work thru your problems & love conquers all. You don't bail out on a marriage when someone has an illness problem. I didn't when Mike got diabetes & he didn't when I got it too. Wasn't there of course so I don't know all the story of both sides. I'm sure she probably realizes too late her mistakes. So Kathy should've stayed & gotten the boy help. He needed it & those who would've given it to him like his family, Jack Scatman, Della & Mando etc did not know anything was wrong. Those who knew something was wrong stood by & did nothing. I bet they now regret they didn't get him the help he needed. All our baby wanted was the love of his wife. So sad... :( Please don't think I am jumping on anyones case as I'm not, just noticing how he didn't get the help he needed. This is so sad...

I hated how both movies/shows left out his family & only showed negative views of him. Why didn't they show Isaac Ruiz (Mando), Freddie's Mom, Tony Orlando, Alan Bursky, Diane Rappaport, Nat Blake & others who knew him so well? Both were really sad tearjerkers & showed only negative stuff about him. In CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER they show him as ignoring the baby & we all know how he loved Pie.

When I watched the video of the E-TRUE HOLLWOOD STORY, I cried my eyes out during the sad parts about his death. When they showed his death, funeral & the casket etc, it really had me sobbing & breaking out the hankies even tho I never knew him. :crying: I saw the casket & boom-- the waterworks started flowing. I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief.
It just killed me to see the casket going by... :crying:

When I saw the video I got of CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER, it was so sad at the end when he died. When he died in it I cried so hard, I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief like I did with the E-TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY. My hubby didn't want to watch it with me cuz he had seen it on tv in the 70's & said it was too disturbing & was too derogatory about him. I was sobbing so bad when he died in it my hubby came into the other room to see what was wrong & found me sobbing in my hankie. The really weird & strange thing was just as soon as the movie ended, the electricity in our house went out for quite awhile. Strange...

I went thru several hankies watching both of those & every time I watch them I end up crying my eyes out & going thru the hankies they are soooo sad. :crying:

Why can't someone make a more positive movie about him? Sure it may have to have the sad stuff like his death in it, but they could do it where it does it justice & portrays it not as a nut who killed himself but as a dear sweet boy who died way too soon...

They could have done AT LEAST another hour on his life and as for the movie......nothin like kickem when they are down......
They sure must be brave to print all that negative stuff.......AFTER he is gone and cant defend himself! NOT NICE PEOPLE!
Sorry, I had to vent.

I love that picture of Freddie ...altho it is not one of his famous smiles...he is still as handsome as ever. Truthfully, he reminds me a little bit of my b/f....just a little.... What a doll! We love ya Freddie
:heart:

speaking about kathy . . . you know, i get the sense that his was a whirlwind romance, and that they didn't really gat a chance to know each other before she was pregnant, and he married herwith great feeling in his heart for her, but i don't think it was shared. she didn't even want to know his family, which is telling on its own. i think they moved a bit too fast, and at the end, she just wanted out of a mistake in her life.

i am blessed by the fact that, even though i met my husband and married him in the course of six months, that this november we will be celebrating 15 years. so, with God's help, whirlwind can work, but not if *both* of you are committed in the same way.


jamison

On one of the site, might've been Croiters, there was an article on Freddie & Kathy called WHIRLWIND ROMANCE...

I would like to suggest that it would be a great idea if E ! or one of the other networks were to make a brand new True Hollywood Story, flesh it out, make it two hours, add more information and interviews, and this time really tell the story, in a more favorable light :) Also, make a new Biography about Freddie, update it and have a little class in making it. Focus on all of the points we have stated here.
Oh, a note: what was mentioned about CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER: I had read in TV GUIDE about a year or two later after the movie was made (in an article about TV-Movies) that Freddie's mother, Maria, would not allow any family stuff used in the film. :( I agree that that would have made his bio better. Agreed too about Kathy, and the people around him, they didn't know ? How could they not have known when Freddie was so depressed all thetime ? When he was crying out to them for help ?

Originally posted by jamison__99
speaking about kathy . . . you know, i get the sense that his was a whirlwind romance, and that they didn't really gat a chance to know each other before she was pregnant, and he married herwith great feeling in his heart for her, but i don't think it was shared. she didn't even want to know his family, which is telling on its own. i think they moved a bit too fast, and at the end, she just wanted out of a mistake in her life.

i am blessed by the fact that, even though i met my husband and married him in the course of six months, that this november we will be celebrating 15 years. so, with God's help, whirlwind can work, but not if *both* of you are committed in the same way.


jamison

That's great! Congrats! :happyface

Well, it works out for some and for others, it just doesn't. In Freddie's and Kathy's case, it probably just wasn't meant to be.

I honestly believe that they had gotten married for the wrong reason. Although I understand that they wanted to make it official for Jr's sake, when you marry for the wrong reasons the chances of the marriage lasting are odd. :(

We are already aware of Freddie's faults, but to excuse her as being the total victim (not directed toward you) is just plain bogus. :rolleyes:

Her expression was practically blank for the majority of the E! True Story interview.

True, Kathy showed no emotion during the E TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY..Why ? :confused:

I wish they made a new E Hollywood story for Freddie. He deserves it. The media has just tarnished his name. I just wish Jr. knew his father the way we remembered him. I really hope he has his mind open to other peoples thoughts aside from his mother's. In a way............ I hope that Sarah (his wife) shows him all the good things his father did. Sr. was a wonderful person and he made miliions of people happy with his humor. I know that once in a while Jr. goes to the crypt to talk to his father maybe he
will continue to do this. I just wish he wouldn't forget Maria. She is also a part of his soul. :(

I noticed in the E-TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY Kathy showed no emotion & actually kinda laughed at one point. She didn't even cry. Even Carol Novak showed more emotion. Hey even talking about my hubby Mike dying has the waterworks going for me.

I wonder if she realized what a sweetie she had? In the picture I'm attaching here it was taken at Ray Andrade (a CATM producer) wedding & at the wedding he cried which you can see in the pic. He cried at weddings. It looks in the pic like he is holding a hankie in his hand. Evidently when he cried he wound up having to get out his hankie. That is soooo sweet! :heart: I bet she regrets she ever tried to divorce him...

I have seen this subject mentioned on numerous boards and the general concencus is...........she is cooooooold. As you say, she shows almost no emotion and even laughs at one point. I have not watched the special in a while because it upsets me. She is so cavalier. And, when she discusses Jr. she says MY son....not Our son. Kathy is a touchy subject ..... and as much as I try not to be negative, I am afraid I have to admit I have just not seen anything nice written about her and her actions on E! I feel are inexcuseable. You morn someone you love. You dont joke about what kind of drugs they were doing. It was in very poor taste.

Originally posted by tylersmistress2002
I have seen this subject mentioned on numerous boards and the general concencus is...........she is cooooooold. As you say, she shows almost no emotion and even laughs at one point. I have not watched the special in a while because it upsets me. She is so cavalier. And, when she discusses Jr. she says MY son....not Our son. Kathy is a touchy subject ..... and as much as I try not to be negative, I am afraid I have to admit I have just not seen anything nice written about her and her actions on E! I feel are inexcuseable. You morn someone you love. You dont joke about what kind of drugs they were doing. It was in very poor taste.



Whenever something had been discussed with HER (Kathy) being the subject, there would always be someone whom would come out of the woodwork (out of nowhere) on here in order to come to her defense. Although everyone IS entitled to their own opinions, their arguements were one-sided, period.

When "Midnight Globe" (was this a gossip publication?) interviewed her (Kathy) back in 1979, it was basically a "he did this and he did that" interview. What about her faults? Is she not capable of having any?

Originally posted by Cheryl Harrell
His mom has diabetes real bad & is living in Puerto-Rico with relatives.

And why didn't Kathy try to stop him? & Why did she try to keep him from seeing Jr when she knew that it would just destroy him to not be able to see his son anymore in addition to her divorcing him. I can understand her being afraid for the baby to be around the pills, but if she had allowed supervised visits maybe he might still be here. I wonder if she realizes she made the poor dear cry? :crying: She hit him with a divorce at his worst time when he was getting into the lawsuit with his former manager Jonas. They make her out to be his widow but never mention that she was practically his ex-wife... The poor dear boy was so overwhelmed with it all the lawsuit with Jonas, being shorter on money cuz of all that plus working his butt off to help her pay for a full time maid & a fur coat (The fur coat was out of the generosity of his heart cuz he was happy she was gonna have the baby) & then she basically dumps him when he was at his lowest point. I can't figure out why she wouldn't have waited until things had gotten better for him & the lawsuit was over. If my hubby had bought me a fur coat I sure wouldn't have dumped him! She couldn't have hated being married to him that much. I'm sure the pills kept him from being his normal self & probably made him do strange things but not enough to cause someone to just break his heart when he was at his lowest point. If she was so desperate to get away from him, why not just have a trial seperation instead of a permanent one? Then maybe he might still be here... Marriage ain't easy but you work thru your problems & love conquers all. You don't bail out on a marriage when someone has an illness problem. I didn't when Mike got diabetes & he didn't when I got it too. Wasn't there of course so I don't know all the story of both sides. I'm sure she probably realizes too late her mistakes. So Kathy should've stayed & gotten the boy help. He needed it & those who would've given it to him like his family, Jack Scatman, Della & Mando etc did not know anything was wrong. Those who knew something was wrong stood by & did nothing. I bet they now regret they didn't get him the help he needed. All our baby wanted was the love of his wife. So sad... :( Please don't think I am jumping on anyones case as I'm not, just noticing how he didn't get the help he needed. This is so sad...

I hated how both movies/shows left out his family & only showed negative views of him. Why didn't they show Isaac Ruiz (Mando), Freddie's Mom, Tony Orlando, Alan Bursky, Diane Rappaport, Nat Blake & others who knew him so well? Both were really sad tearjerkers & showed only negative stuff about him. In CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER they show him as ignoring the baby & we all know how he loved Pie.

When I watched the video of the E-TRUE HOLLWOOD STORY, I cried my eyes out during the sad parts about his death. When they showed his death, funeral & the casket etc, it really had me sobbing & breaking out the hankies even tho I never knew him. :crying: I saw the casket & boom-- the waterworks started flowing. I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief.
It just killed me to see the casket going by... :crying:

When I saw the video I got of CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER, it was so sad at the end when he died. When he died in it I cried so hard, I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief like I did with the E-TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY. My hubby didn't want to watch it with me cuz he had seen it on tv in the 70's & said it was too disturbing & was too derogatory about him. I was sobbing so bad when he died in it my hubby came into the other room to see what was wrong & found me sobbing in my hankie. The really weird & strange thing was just as soon as the movie ended, the electricity in our house went out for quite awhile. Strange...

I went thru several hankies watching both of those & every time I watch them I end up crying my eyes out & going thru the hankies they are soooo sad. :crying:

Why can't someone make a more positive movie about him? Sure it may have to have the sad stuff like his death in it, but they could do it where it does it justice & portrays it not as a nut who killed himself but as a dear sweet boy who died way too soon...



His E! T.H.S. was focused more on the negative than the positive. Although the negative did exist regarding his personal life and his career, I'm pretty sure that there had been just about as much positive (if not more) as opposed to that. They made it seem as if there had been nothing more to him but drugs and guns.

My suggestion to whomever is a producer out there, make a new Freddie Prinze Story:) While Can Yo Hear The Laughter was ok, it did have a very negative bent and focused on the bad and not so much of the good about Freddie. Ira Angustain's performance was excellent, he played the part well, it was the story that could have used help. :( They should have based it not on the Peter S. Greenberg PLAYBOY article, "Good Night, Sweet Prinze", but rather on the biography written by his mother. That would have been better. And also, to have a fairer depiction of how Kathy really was. Not just focusing on Freddie's faults. After all, it takes two to tango. Kathy was no angel I am sure.
And a new E ! TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY should be made about Freddie as well, make it two hours, and dig out old interviews, and so on, and everything else that would be pertinent to the story, and really do it well this time. And if Kathy is interviewed for it, make sure that someone is there to support Freddie and not just have her saying negative things and looking so sour the whole time.
Freddie deserves a better treatment than what he's gotten.

AMEN TO THAT!!!!

RIGHT ON, JOY !

Yay...................... :clap: Comedy Lover.........

Yeah, I noticed right away that she talked about it like one of her freakin' goldfish died...No emotion!!!
I know it was long ago, but if you truly loved the man there would be some hurt there, wouldn't there?
I've never seen "Can You Hear The Laughter" and I don't care to, either. I would LOVE to see "Million Dollar Ripoff", though!

I found these 2 pics on one of the Freddie sites & noticed something interesting about them. In the pic on the right he has longer hair but in the pic on the left which was from the Padre episode which was done just before he died, he has real short hair like he did in the first episode & earlier episodes. I had noticed this for quite some time now & this has made me wonder for quite some time now, if he got his hair cut real short on purpose cuz he knew he was gonna end it all & wanted his hair to look just so when he died... When I saw these pics recently these pics showed what I'm talking about...

I am attaching the photo on to here so you all can see...

Sometimes I think of how much Fred could have been influenced by Lenny Bruce. He admired Lenny a lot...One of the things that I think Fred did like him was Marry to a "public relations business woman (...and I'm not talking about a "travel agent salesperson" as some people from the press refers to Kathy as)

All you all are saying is how I feel too. I have spent several hundred dollars on eBay over the last 20 months researching articles about Freddie and his life and death. Short of getting a hold of his journal (one continues to hope), I don't think we will ever get the whole story. There were two sides to this story, and so far Freddie's side has been buried with him, I am afraid.

On another note, not to give away any trade secrets, but I have a friend who is contemplating writing, producing and staring in a one man live show on the life and career of Freddie, from Freddie's side of the story. He, too, is upset by what has been said about this talented, sensitive young man. He shares much with Freddie, even though he was born after Freddie died. I know he is very busy these days, but I hope one day he does get this one man show on the stage.

CHERYL,
I DON'T BELIEVE FREDDIE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO END IT ALL I BELIEVE AS IT STATES IN HIS MOTHERS BOOK THAT FREDDIE WASA A NEAT PERSON AND LIKE TO LOOK HIS BEST.
HE LIKED NICE CLOTHES AND HE TOOK GREAT CARE TO LOOK HIS BEST.
HE PROBABLY JUST REALIZED THATN HIS HAIR WAS SHAGGY AND HE NEEDED TO GET IT CUT, AND BESIDES IF HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO END IT ALL AND DO SO BY PUTTING A GUN TO HIS HEAD HE WOULDN'T LOOK HIS BEST ANYWAY AND WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT WITH A CLOSED CASKET SERVICE.
JUST MY OPINON:(

DEAR CHERYL,
I AM SORRY IF THE ABOVE POST SOUNDED MEAN OR IF I WAS MAD AT YOU FOR YOUR OBSERVATION THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION AND I'M VERY SORRY IF I HURT YOUR FEELINGS.

Can anybody tell me how to place a picture down my name, if there's an easy way to do it?

Originally posted by Rosalyz
Sometimes I think of how much Fred could have been influenced by Lenny Bruce. He admired Lenny a lot...One of the things that I think Fred did like him was Marry to a "public relations business woman (...and I'm not talking about a "travel agent salesperson" as some people from the press refers to Kathy as)


I'm not sure although he DID admire him (Lenny). He admired him so much that at one point, he wanted to perform some of his (Lenny) material as one of his routines. But those whom were close to him felt it wasn't a very good idea for him to attempt it so early in his career.

I wonder if some things had crossed their minds out of curiosity of each other. :confused:

And I'm wondering how could he have reformed her if she already had been before they met? :confused:

Originally posted by comedylover2002
My suggestion to whomever is a producer out there, make a new Freddie Prinze Story:) While Can Yo Hear The Laughter was ok, it did have a very negative bent and focused on the bad and not so much of the good about Freddie. Ira Angustain's performance was excellent, he played the part well, it was the story that could have used help. :( They should have based it not on the Peter S. Greenberg PLAYBOY article, "Good Night, Sweet Prinze", but rather on the biography written by his mother. That would have been better. And also, to have a fairer depiction of how Kathy really was. Not just focusing on Freddie's faults. After all, it takes two to tango. Kathy was no angel I am sure.
And a new E ! TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY should be made about Freddie as well, make it two hours, and dig out old interviews, and so on, and everything else that would be pertinent to the story, and really do it well this time. And if Kathy is interviewed for it, make sure that someone is there to support Freddie and not just have her saying negative things and looking so sour the whole time.
Freddie deserves a better treatment than what he's gotten.



I agree.

It's seems as if whenever a discussion about Kathy would take place on here, certain people would show up out of nowhere and continuously dispute against other people's opinions about her. But I guarantee you, they wouldn't have even bothered to dispute anything against anyone whom would've said anything to bash Freddie. :rolleyes:

The majority of the movie was inaccurate and it really didn't do him any justice as far as how he actually was as a person. They made him out to be a totally animalistic person and his E! T.H.S. wasn't any better. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Rosalyz
Can anybody tell me how to place a picture down my name, if there's an easy way to do it?


I know you go into cp user and into edit profile. Then you take a picture that is on a web site and put the url of the picture in the signature box. you have to put
<img src="
in the front of the url and
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at the end of it. You can find the url of a picture on line by right clicking on an image and going to properties and the url will be listed there. Good Luck.

Don't worry your post didn't sound mean at all & I understand. :) It's okay. :) Actually I have no idea whether he knew in advance that he was gonna commit suicide. I have no idea what was going thru his head at the time. I do think the pills caused him to be more wanting to commit suicide than if he hadn't been on them. When he tried to commit suicide after his ex-girl friend Ann "Nani" Sadlier broke up with him I don't think he was on pills. So if he wasn't been on the pills I don't know if he would've done what he did or not. I had read he was so heartbroken over Kathy divorcing him that's why he did it. I do believe he was so heartbroken it made him do something he never would've normally done. Why he let the heartbreak get to him so bad that he would do what he did, I"ll never know but it is so sad... :crying:

I am glad to see the Kathy wars are no longer around on here. It was sad to see the arguing over her having gone on. But thank fully it wasn't the kind of arguing that has ruined message boards & site like Arlo's. We are a true family on here. Not one that is a family only until arguing starts & then argues so bad it is spilt apart. I noticed alot of the ones who stuck up for Kathy haven't been on here in along time. I don't know her or what she is really like so I can't judge. I'm sure she had a hard time too but the sad thing is Freddie didn't get the love & help he needed at a time he needed it most... :(

Originally posted by Cheryl Harrell
Don't worry your post didn't sound mean at all & I understand. :) It's okay. :) Actually I have no idea whether he knew in advance that he was gonna commit suicide. I have no idea what was going thru his head at the time. I do think the pills caused him to be more wanting to commit suicide than if he hadn't been on them. When he tried to commit suicide after his ex-girl friend Ann "Nani" Sadlier broke up with him I don't think he was on pills. So if he wasn't been on the pills I don't know if he would've done what he did or not. I had read he was so heartbroken over Kathy divorcing him that's why he did it. I do believe he was so heartbroken it made him do something he never would've normally done. Why he let the heartbreak get to him so bad that he would do what he did, I"ll never know but it is so sad... :crying:

I am glad to see the Kathy wars are no longer around on here. It was sad to see the arguing over her having gone on. But thank fully it wasn't the kind of arguing that has ruined message boards & site like Arlo's. We are a true family on here. Not one that is a family only until arguing starts & then argues so bad it is spilt apart. I noticed alot of the ones who stuck up for Kathy haven't been on here in along time. I don't know her or what she is really like so I can't judge. I'm sure she had a hard time too but the sad thing is Freddie didn't get the love & help he needed at a time he needed it most... :(


You're right, I have to agree. :)

All of the arguing in the world isn't going to bring him back and to be honest, I also would've been scared if I were in her shoes. But all in all, it's very sad and tragic that he passed at such a young age and isn't here with us today. :(