Loved Bay City Blues...Saint Elsewhere...Doc show with great actor, Texas Wheelers western show..with great cast,The Tony Randall show ,Paris,We've Got Each Other,The White Shadow,Last Resort,Mary (variety show),Paul S in show (Friends & Lovers),Lorenzo & Henrietta variety show....Phyliis show ..sooo funny.Rhoda was okay.

Cat logo was nice !

many other creative ..shows too numerous to mention

WKRP in Cincinnati.

Newhart. Not only a great show but Bob meows for the MTM closing credit!

https://youtu.be/BU8Rk8dcP78

I didn't realize how extensive collection of shows MTM was responsible for. It actually rivaled Desilu.

Mary Tyler Moore show was the best of the bunch. What made that series so great was the ensemble.

Rhoda was pretty good the first two seasons although I didn’t much care for the husband. But when the husband was dropped, this is when the show lost it and went downhill. But it still wasn’t a bad show, enjoyed the mother and the sister dynamic.

Phyllis having her own show was sort of a mistake since the character is sort of grating to begin with. Loved the old lady in her 90’s. She had no F’s to give. But other than that, not a great show and only lasted two seasons. It was notable that it starred Barbara Colby who was mysteriously and senselessly murdered in a parking lot outside of an acting seminar, shot with another man also shot and died.

The Bob Newhart Show (1972-78), hands down for me.

As to “Phyllis,” I never got it—the idea, I mean. The character herself was on VERY FEW Mary Tyler Moore episodes as it was! Rhoda, yeah—she established herself quite well before getting a show of her own. Rhoda had much more of a personality than Phyllis, as well.

The Miami area never received the syndicated “Lorenzo and Henrietta Music Show.” At that time, Lorenzo was only known as the voice of Carlton. His name appeared, of course, in The Bob Newhart Show credits. Seriously—with those relatively obscure names—did ppl originally think it was intended to feature “music”? Haha

BTW: Lorenzo was the absolutely PERFECT (purr-fect?) Garfield!

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MTM

• WKRP in Cincinnati
• Newhart

WKRP in Cincinnati best sitcom with Newhart close second. St. Elsewhere best MTM drama hands down.

For me, I would have to say Lou Grant and The White Shadow. Not really a fan of the others.

1) Mary Tyler Moore
2) The Bob Newhart Show

Mary Tyler Moore in first place, with Rhoda and Tony Randall tied for second. Bob Newhart and WKRP tied for third place, and Newhart in fourth. Loved Cloris Leachman, but never cared for the Phyllis series. St. Elsewhere as favorite MTM drama.

lou grant was my fave folllowed by wkrp and the mary tyler moore show

WKRP in Cincinnati bar none. It should have lasted longer than it did.

Mary Tyler Moore Show was the best program. Rhoda was decent but the writers sort of lost their way trying to write her as a married woman and the. Had the character get a divorce. Then the show had a fall, the viewers didn’t want her to divorce apparently.

Phyllis in my opinion wasn’t very good. The best part was the elderly grandmother in law. She was pretty hilarious and saved the show from being less funny than it was.

Mary Tyler Moore Show was the best program. Rhoda was decent but the writers sort of lost their way trying to write her as a married woman and the. Had the character get a divorce. Then the show had a fall, the viewers didn’t want her to divorce apparently.

Phyllis in my opinion wasn’t very good. The best part was the elderly grandmother in law. She was pretty hilarious and saved the show from being less funny than it was.

Rhoda, I didn't think was funny. She was good as comic foil on MTM show, but on her own not so much. Getting her married was a disaster. Phyllis was awful.

Rhoda they could have made like “Mary on New York”. They married her off and for whatever reason the writers didn’t know what else to do and went “Rhoda should be single again.” This sort of brought down the show.

No offense to David Groh (who has passed away) but as a husband was sort of overbearing on her. I can’t help thinking maybe the viewer didn’t like him. He reminded me (among other arguably) that he resembled the English singer Tom Jones. Rhoda married Tom Jones! The husband character was also a very strong character which clashed with the Rhoda character. I don’t know if this is good or bad. It’s the male/female relationship, is the man the stronger character? Again, no offense to Groh but maybe the Judd Hirsch character would have been a better husband, or should Rhoda have been married in the first damn place.

Rhoda they could have made like “Mary on New York”. They married her off and for whatever reason the writers didn’t know what else to do and went “Rhoda should be single again.” This sort of brought down the show.

No offense to David Groh (who has passed away) but as a husband was sort of overbearing on her. I can’t help thinking maybe the viewer didn’t like him. He reminded me (among other arguably) that he resembled the English singer Tom Jones. Rhoda married Tom Jones! The husband character was also a very strong character which clashed with the Rhoda character. I don’t know if this is good or bad. It’s the male/female relationship, is the man the stronger character? Again, no offense to Groh but maybe the Judd Hirsch character would have been a better husband, or should Rhoda have been married in the first damn place.

Here's an interview with creator with Allan Burns, who I think broadly agrees:

https://youtu.be/XYRFoRdjwDc

I think the big problem was that they forced the wedding too soon in order to hype ratings. Once they did that, they were stuck with a couple no one cared about. Burns talks at the end about the irony that Mary couldn't be divorced in her show, but just a few years later the network didn't care about Rhoda divorcing.

Here's the other creator, James L. Brooks:

https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/james-l-brooks?clip=49344

Around 4 to 8 minutes, he talks about Rhoda's marriage. He says the basic problem was that if they were going to marry Rhoda, they needed a bona fide co-star for the show.