So, on a certain Website, there was tension between me and an Admin. I was being ragged and dragged, and I saw that she was an Admin. I asked her for help and she threatened to ban ME. I was confused and stunned. Even other Posters were like,"That's REALLY fuced up that the Admin threatened to ban the VICTIM who was being ragged and dragged and asked her for help!



There was a thread about a guy who said he saw someone win a Jackpot in a Casino. The guy said something like,"This guy pulled out his Player's Club Card and offered me to split $4000 with him if I switched seats with him and claimed I was the Winner, not him and filled out paperwork. We made the switch and the Casino Staff came by and I gave my personal information, got paid, and gave him $2,000 when the Casino Staff left. I am now wondering if I should have declined to claim I was the Winner, because it is a bit shady this complete Stranger offered me $2,000 to claim I was the Winner of his Jackpot. Why would he not want his entire $4,000?"



Another Poster responded something like,"He could owe $4,000 in Alimony. I don't even know what Alimony is, but it sounds awful."





I(River) responded,"Alimony is something you pay your ex spouse after Divorce. I've always hated the idea of Alimony. Why should I have to financially support another ADULT I am no longer legally or blood binded to anymore? Especially if the reason for the Divorce in the first place is because my ex Spouse cheated on me? So I have to pay someone who cheated on me and that's the reason for the Divorce in the first place? No, just no!"



Another Person responded something like,"My Friend's ex wife cheated on him and he didn't get a Prenup before marriage, so they divorced, and half of every paycheck goes to pay Alimony for her. Sad really." I (River) responded,"Alimony sucks! It should be outlawed!"







The Admin soon said something like,"You have hijacked this thread by mentioning Alimony. This thread is about a guy trying to hide the fact that HE won a Jackpot, and asked a complete Stranger to claim the Jackpot for $2,000. It has nothing to do with Alimony. You have received a Two Week Suspension for hijacking." I honestly thought she was talking about one of the People who brought up Alimony first, but I was confused and stunned she was talking about ME. She even did the dastardly thing and quoted only MY responses, unfairly making it look like I brought up Alimony out of the blue.



One particular Poster said something like,"River didn't hijack anything. He was responding to Posters who brought up Alimony first. You've done worse. You seriously need to reinstate River and give him a full apology for this unfair Two Week Suspension you imposed on him when he did absolutely nothing wrong."



Other Posters stood up for me after him saying something like,"This is one of the most unfair Suspensions I have ever seen. River didn't deserve this at all. He was responding to Posters who brought up Alimony first."



The Admin still made me serve the unfair Two Week Suspension for the Alimony thing when I didn't hijack anything. I was responding to Posters who brought it up first. I'm still pissed off to this day about that! 🤬😡



After I was reinstated two weeks later for this unfair Two Week Suspension, Posters were like,"River is a stronger Poster than I would have been. I would have left permanently on my own after that unfair Two Week Suspension."



This Admin harassed and insulted me for three years, while I politely smiled. She continued to look the other way while I was ragged and dragged by other Posters. One day, she unfairly accused me of hijacking a thread again, and I cussed her out, telling her I was sick of her harassing me and insulting me while I smiled politely when I really wanted to cuss her out. I called her every single cussword I could think of, even the C Word. I was expecting a one month Suspension for cussing her out Poster was like,"You really should delete this post quick, but even he was like,"No , actually, River is right. The Admin is completely and unfairly mean to him and gets no consequences for being unfairly and completely mean to him. " Many other Posters agreed with the guy's post st pointing out how unfairly and completely mean the Admin was to me.



The Admin PERMANENTLY banned me even after I apologized multiple times on connected Websites. I apologized because I wanted to be reinstated, not because I was genuinely sorry for cussing her out. She was a Bitch to me and deserved that cussing rant I gave her. Treat someone like a punching bag for three years, and don't be surprised when you get at least a punch right back.



Was I wrong to cuss her out? I feel she deserved it. She pushed me for three years while I smiled politely before finally going off on her in a well deserved cussing rant.

The following is just my opinion, so take it for whatever it's worth. But at the very root of it all, you have to respect the rights of the community to create and enforce their own sense of right and wrong...even when you are quite sure they would not recognize "right" even if it bit them in the a**.

Your alternatives are to either play by their rules, or start your own community.

As far as insults go, I personally prefer to be a little more discreet. Rather than hit them over the head with something that clearly breaks all kinds of prohibitions. offer them something that vaguely skirts the TOS....the sort of thing they really don't recognize as an insult until after they have thought about it for a while.

When you do that job well, it might take them until they wake up at 3 AM to fully decode your message.

River, being on forums is a real balancing act and often OFF BALANCE. The admin and moderators have the control and what they decide is what goes. I've gotten to points that some forums are so boring and very inactive, and what I said about things I didn't care if I got banned. I drag my feet to leave on my own often and the mods use their power.

As we know forums have their agendas and going against their M.O. can be the end of our membership.

Just recently I got banned from a forum I had been a member for 7 yrs. I offered so much health information all those years and got hardly any thanks, but I continued. Then the forum got less and less active and I even approached the mods to get active on the posts and I pushed and pushed for that and finally they gave me the heave ho.... I miss it a little but as I said it was so slow and boring.

Censorship is everywhere and I respect what Musk has done on a big scale.

I also feel it important to advise against wagering your entire argument in a single "omnibus bill" style rant. Doing so only makes it easy for the admins to ban you as a raving loon, without even trying to understand your grievance.

Much better instead to calmly negotiate your difference of opinion in a way that clearly illustrates your feelings of having been wronged, without allowing your passion to taint the well.

At least that way you leave the admin knowing they banned someone who had a legitimate grievance. rather than just some troublemaker.

Then, if you still feel the need to make a "crash and burn" exit, then fine, but at least you aren't allowing the message to be overshadowed by the flash. :D

I have found a lot of mods DO NOT WANT TO NEGOTIATE.

Just thinking back to 2005 when I was on 2 health forums they didn't even have moderators. On one a member self appointed herself....boy was she bossy.

Another Poster responded something like,"He could owe $4,000 in Alimony. I don't even know what Alimony is, but it sounds awful."

This post reflects the intellectual level of the members… just be done with this place.

So, on a certain Website, there was tension between me and an Admin. I was being ragged and dragged, and I saw that she was an Admin. I asked her for help and she threatened to ban ME. I was confused and stunned. Even other Posters were like,"That's REALLY fuced up that the Admin threatened to ban the VICTIM who was being ragged and dragged and asked her for help!



There was a thread about a guy who said he saw someone win a Jackpot in a Casino. The guy said something like,"This guy pulled out his Player's Club Card and offered me to split $4000 with him if I switched seats with him and claimed I was the Winner, not him and filled out paperwork. We made the switch and the Casino Staff came by and I gave my personal information, got paid, and gave him $2,000 when the Casino Staff left. I am now wondering if I should have declined to claim I was the Winner, because it is a bit shady this complete Stranger offered me $2,000 to claim I was the Winner of his Jackpot. Why would he not want his entire $4,000?"



Another Poster responded something like,"He could owe $4,000 in Alimony. I don't even know what Alimony is, but it sounds awful."





I(River) responded,"Alimony is something you pay your ex spouse after Divorce. I've always hated the idea of Alimony. Why should I have to financially support another ADULT I am no longer legally or blood binded to anymore? Especially if the reason for the Divorce in the first place is because my ex Spouse cheated on me? So I have to pay someone who cheated on me and that's the reason for the Divorce in the first place? No, just no!"



Another Person responded something like,"My Friend's ex wife cheated on him and he didn't get a Prenup before marriage, so they divorced, and half of every paycheck goes to pay Alimony for her. Sad really." I (River) responded,"Alimony sucks! It should be outlawed!"







The Admin soon said something like,"You have hijacked this thread by mentioning Alimony. This thread is about a guy trying to hide the fact that HE won a Jackpot, and asked a complete Stranger to claim the Jackpot for $2,000. It has nothing to do with Alimony. You have received a Two Week Suspension for hijacking." I honestly thought she was talking about one of the People who brought up Alimony first, but I was confused and stunned she was talking about ME. She even did the dastardly thing and quoted only MY responses, unfairly making it look like I brought up Alimony out of the blue.



One particular Poster said something like,"River didn't hijack anything. He was responding to Posters who brought up Alimony first. You've done worse. You seriously need to reinstate River and give him a full apology for this unfair Two Week Suspension you imposed on him when he did absolutely nothing wrong."



Other Posters stood up for me after him saying something like,"This is one of the most unfair Suspensions I have ever seen. River didn't deserve this at all. He was responding to Posters who brought up Alimony first."



The Admin still made me serve the unfair Two Week Suspension for the Alimony thing when I didn't hijack anything. I was responding to Posters who brought it up first. I'm still pissed off to this day about that! 🤬😡



After I was reinstated two weeks later for this unfair Two Week Suspension, Posters were like,"River is a stronger Poster than I would have been. I would have left permanently on my own after that unfair Two Week Suspension."



This Admin harassed and insulted me for three years, while I politely smiled. She continued to look the other way while I was ragged and dragged by other Posters. One day, she unfairly accused me of hijacking a thread again, and I cussed her out, telling her I was sick of her harassing me and insulting me while I smiled politely when I really wanted to cuss her out. I called her every single cussword I could think of, even the C Word. I was expecting a one month Suspension for cussing her out Poster was like,"You really should delete this post quick, but even he was like,"No , actually, River is right. The Admin is completely and unfairly mean to him and gets no consequences for being unfairly and completely mean to him. " Many other Posters agreed with the guy's post st pointing out how unfairly and completely mean the Admin was to me.



The Admin PERMANENTLY banned me even after I apologized multiple times on connected Websites. I apologized because I wanted to be reinstated, not because I was genuinely sorry for cussing her out. She was a Bitch to me and deserved that cussing rant I gave her. Treat someone like a punching bag for three years, and don't be surprised when you get at least a punch right back.



Was I wrong to cuss her out? I feel she deserved it. She pushed me for three years while I smiled politely before finally going off on her in a well deserved cussing rant.



This site sounds similar to City Data

So, on a certain Website, there was tension between me and an Admin. I was being ragged and dragged, and I saw that she was an Admin. I asked her for help and she threatened to ban ME..

Look at the bright side Jordan. At least the Admin was not calling you "sweetie"....THAT'S the worst!! ;)

I also feel it important to advise against wagering your entire argument in a single "omnibus bill" style rant. Doing so only makes it easy for the admins to ban you as a raving loon, without even trying to understand your grievance.

Much better instead to calmly negotiate your difference of opinion in a way that clearly illustrates your feelings of having been wronged, without allowing your passion to taint the well.

At least that way you leave the admin knowing they banned someone who had a legitimate grievance. rather than just some troublemaker.

Then, if you still feel the need to make a "crash and burn" exit, then fine, but at least you aren't allowing the message to be overshadowed by the flash. :D


At least multiple Posters stood up for me after my unexpected banning. A guy said something like,"This reminds me of toxic workplaces where Coworkers will belittle and bully a Coworker who did absolutely nothing wrong and when bullied Coworker has enough and cusses them out fed up, the innocent and bullied Coworker who got pushed too far and finally cusses his or her bullying and belittling Coworkers, THEY get into trouble and the bullies and belittlers get off scot free! I never liked this practice."

Another Poster said something like,"Quite a lot of we Unbanned Posters don't like that River was harassed and insulted for three years by an Admin and when he finally had enough and cussed her out, he got permanently nuked. Everyone has their limit and he reached his."

Another Poster said something like,"I don't care about posting privileges, so I would have told her off three years ago. River waited far too long too finally stand up for himself."

Other Posters said something like,"What River said was harsh, but I would have temporarily suspended him and then reinstate him..That Admin did treat him like garbage and his cussing her out was deserved.

Other Posters were like,"River was a nice Poster who definitely didn't deserve to get banned after cussing out the Admin. She should have been helping him out against the Posters ragging and dragging him, not being mean to him and ragging and dragging him too and refusing to help him out."

Some forums seem to be run for the enjoyment of the members, while others appear to be run for the enjoyment of the moderators. Perhaps that was the case with the one you mention?

I've been involved with some of the latter where it was a running joke how easy it was to get banned, and they fully expected you to re-register with an alt/name...time after time.

I;ve also seen a fair share of forums where the heavy-handedness of the moderation pretty much chased away any membership they might have at one time enjoyed....making one wonder what they are gonna do for content? Ghost towns.....

I remember getting in one tussel with a moderator, where I pointed out their start page was inviting to new members to join in and participate, but their unspoken policy was that they frowned upon members outside their "good ol boy" network starting too many threads of their own.

As an outsider, you could getaway with starting a handful of threads per month with no problem. But once you crossed some arbitrary line, the old timers would start burying you in snark "was this thread really necessary?" and stuff like that.

So I just pointed out to the moderator that if what they wanted was a private forum, I was sure there must be settings somewhere in the software that would allow that.

And the SOB banned me for that.

Turns out that there was a pampered elite among the membership that accessed the forum almost exclusively by mobile. And their objection to many new threads was that they felt "inconvenienced" having to scroll through everyones garbage to find the handful of threads THEY thought were important.

Which is why I cringe whenever an admin announces an intention to make their platform more "mobile compatible"....thinking "HERE WE GO..."


I recall a while back one particular member here complaining about all the old threads being bumped...and suspecting at the time that a mobile screen was likely to be the true culprit

Was I wrong for cussing her out?

In 1999 (and I know the year because of the job I had), I was a worker in a casino. One night before shift, I bought a Mountain Dew soda, but for some reason I didnt drink it, did my shift, and got back in my car around daybreak and decided to get some breakfast.

Went to this local diner, and decided to bring my soda in with me. Sat down at the bar area by the kitchen, was given a menu plus a tepid glass of ice water I wasnt going to drink. There were two people, a younger waitress and the manager who was an Old Bag. That's my name for her. The place was empty

Old Bag "YOU CANT BRING THAT DRINK IN HERE!"

Me "Why not?"

Old Bag "Cause we sell drinks in here!"

Me "Ok.", then I got up and left. Went to Waffle House where I and my drink were welcome.

I was proud of myself because I didnt say a word, but I have debated whether I should have. When she started in on that "YOU CANT BRING THAT DRINK IN HERE..." routine, I wanted/should have said....

"OK, I was going to order the most expensive thing on the menu (which was Steak and Eggs), drink my drink and then order another drink from you, then tip your server 25% (I worked for gratuities). Now, because you are stupid, you lost out on $20, and her several dollars, over a fking 60 cent drink. You are STUPID, why are you so STUPID?"

Then walk out. But I didnt say that. The place was a cop stop and didnt want to get pulled over by whatever Old Bag might tell them. It also doesnt do any good. I will say that place has long since closed and the company went out of business. She was old and probably dead now and would be fun to drink my Mountain Dew over her hole and then put the can on the headstone. Wouldnt ask less for someone to do the same for myself.

The Head Admin could have easily stopped the Female Admin's harassing and insulting me, at least by saying something like,"Would you please leave River alone? Your harassing and insulting of River is way out of line, especially as an Admin. You are held to a higher standard, and your harassing and insulting of River is unprofessional and unacceptable. Knock it off. But he just stood there and let her harass and insult me. When I finally had enough and cussed her out in a fed up cussing rant, he could have easily overruled her and reinstated me, but he did not. He said something like,"If I take River's side on this, Carla (Not her real name) will most likely resign and she's been a Loyal and hardworking Admin for years for me and I can't risk losing her as an Admin by taking River's side on this. So, I must uphold the permanent banning Carla gave River for cussing her out." It seemed he was implying I did have valid points in cussing her out but weighed the options and chose to uphold the permanent banning in order to not have Carla resign over this.



The Head Admin asked me to apologize to Carla and I did, in hopes of being reinstated. Still banned. He told me to wish her a happy birthday, and I did in hopes of being reinstated. I did not want to wish her a happy birthday. She was a bitch to me for three years, why would I want to wish that bitch a happy birthday? Fuc her. I only wished her a happy birthday because the head Admin told me too and I wanted to be reinstated. Still banned. :mad: I felt betrayed, used, played, and manipulated, as if I were a used as a tool for the Head Admin', other Admins, and other Posters amusement as if,"Look at how willing River is to come back to us and jump through hoops to come back and we're STILL not going to let him back! He's a source of entertainment for us, LMAO,! :D

But they put someone who threatened to go on a shooting spree after he lost like $5,000 an extended Suspension(The very next day, on a connecting Website, he said something like,"I'm shocked I threatened to go on a shooting spree after losing like $5,000. I was just beyond angry and today, now that I've calmed down, I feel incredibly guilty , shocked, and remorseful I threatened to go on a shooting spree. I would never go on a shooting spree and shouldn't have said that. " He received an extended Suspension.



The Head Admin after about a month said something like,"If he apologized and asks to be let back, I will reinstate him. That was over three years ago and the guy never even visited, so he never asked to come back. He's still on an extended Suspension and his Extended Suspension will be over if he asks to be let back. Seriously? I had a one time fed up cussing rant and I get PERMANENTLY banned and someone who threatened to go on a fucing shooting spree after losing like $5,000 just got an extended Suspension? Fuc off with that fuced up shet! :mad:

In an ironic twist of fate, Carla ended up jumping ship from that Website for the most part and hasn't even visited that Website in roughly 4 months! She abandoned him anyways! I would have been much more loyal to him than Carla was! On a connecting Website, I directly pointed out to him that him that Carla abandoned him for the most part and I should be reinstated since one of my biggest problems on that Website abandoned it for the most part. He agreed I had a valid point, but still chose to uphold the permanent banning. :rolleyes:



There are Website Owners and Posters suggested that I just go to the Website Owners and see if they can reinstate me. The Website Owners didn't reinstate me either. Another Admin said that the Website Owners were actually planning to ban me for a while, but they just didn't have a valid reason to ban me until I made that fed up cussing rant and the Website Owners refuse to reinstate me.

Just based upon all the "guts" you are exposing over all of this, my suggestion is that you crawl back on your knees, and beg forgiveness. It doesn't sound to me like you'll be whole, until you do.

Just based upon all the "guts" you are exposing over all of this, my suggestion is that you crawl back on your knees, and beg forgiveness. It doesn't sound to me like you'll be whole, until you do.

I have repeatedly begged to be let back on that Website, to no avail.

All I can say is IF you are ready to be banned or infractioned speak your truths if NOT bite your tongue and go with their flow. Also, I won't beg to go back on any forums, they don't want me, then time to look for someone who does...there are a lot of forums out there.

And thru all my years of life I FINALLY arrived at "no one is better than me"..they are different in many many ways but one heart and the same organs everyone gets, unless issues at birth, SO....

All I can say is IF you are ready to be banned or infractioned speak your truths if NOT bite your tongue and go with their flow. Also, I won't beg to go back on any forums, they don't want me, then time to look for someone who does...there are a lot of forums out there.

And thru all my years of life I FINALLY arrived at "no one is better than me"..they are different in many many ways but one heart and the same organs everyone gets, unless issues at birth, SO....


I remember asking for advice on this on another Website and the replies were something like,"Why would you beg to be let back on a Website that dumped YOU and not the other way around? They clearly don't see you as an asset. That place seems like a conceited circle jerk anyways."

I have repeatedly begged to be let back on that Website, to no avail.

Well, you could always go "commando" and use a remote proxy to conceal your IP addy, Create a completely new account, and go forward from there

https://www.proxysite.com/

Well GJ for me that would NOT work, I'd have to change my whole mindset, post stuff so opposite of what I have been posting etc...and I'm not about to Play that Game. I suopose some have done this, but do get found out.

Yes Caroline, I can see where you are blessed with "signature" behavior.

good grief what is signature behavior????

Behavior patterns that would give away your identity. Like signing a check, they would recognize your "handwriting".

I created alternate Accounts in order to post on there again and those Accounts were all quickly busted. I was warned if I ever made another alternate account, I would be forever banned from the connecting Website as well as the first Website.

That's because they can see your IP address. If you use a proxy service, they'll think you are in Canada or someplace else.

You gotta "play nice" the first few months, keeping the spirit all festive and backslappy so you won't raise any immediate suspicion.

One of the things I (just generally speaking, not specific to this forum, necessarily) find humorous are relatively new members posting incendiary threads. Big red flag.

I have repeatedly begged to be let back on that Website, to no avail.

What website is this?

Yes, you should have been banned. Consider if you were in a work-place and cussed out your supervisor and called her a "C". You would have escorted out and reported to authorities. Same thing happened online. You need to stop trying to validate your behavior, control your temper and leave the website. The fact you are still trying to get on the website using other methods is disturbing.

Yes, you should have been banned. Consider if you were in a work-place and cussed out your supervisor and called her a "C". You would have escorted out and reported to authorities. Same thing happened online. You need to stop trying to validate your behavior, control your temper and leave the website. The fact you are still trying to get on the website using other methods is disturbing.I was staying silent on this, but since someone else agrees: calling anyone the c word and trying to justify it is going too far, regardless of how they have treated you. I don't blame that administrator. I also don't like the op of this thread trying to get around the language filter repeatedly spelling out profanity, not cool. :rolleyes:

Yes, you should have been banned. Consider if you were in a work-place and cussed out your supervisor and called her a "C". You would have escorted out and reported to authorities. Same thing happened online. You need to stop trying to validate your behavior, control your temper and leave the website. The fact you are still trying to get on the website using other methods is disturbing.

When I called her the C word, I was just using all the cusswords I could think of. She pushed me way too far, harassing and insulting me for three years before I finally had enough and cussed her out. I let her off pretty easy, considering the fact she harassed and insulted me for three years and I gave her one fed up cussing rant and got permanently nuked.

What website is this?

Wizard Of Vegas is the Website in question.

Wizard Of Vegas is the Website in question.

Oh thanks, that site would give me no interest, but I don't gamble....

Just thinking there may be a Directory of Forums to check out. I may look that route.

Oh thanks, that site would give me no interest, but I don't gamble....

Just thinking there may be a Directory of Forums to check out. I may look that route.

Speaking of gambling, I play the Lottery and I remember at least one Poster saying something like,"River Jordan plays the Lottery. I don't get the logic of treating a Lottery Player like trash. If River Jordan does ever win the big Lottery, watch the Posters who treated him like trash suck up to him and act as if they are his best Friends. River Jordan most likely would tell them to buzz off as he laughs with his Millions. That's what I would do in River Jordan's situation.

Why do you think you were treated like Trash because you play the lottery....Your mind seems to wander too much, do what you want to do and don't let others influence.

I don't play the lottery and it's a losers game. The chances of winning anything are I believe impossible...

You most likely were banned to make an example out of you. If they had let you back after your apology, it would have most likely set off a precedent where Posters would think they could just cuss out Admins, get banned, and then apologize and be let back. Yes, having an Admin harass and insult you constantly is annoying, but you should have asked for advice before cussing out the Admin. The advice most likely would have been something like, "Please don't cuss her out. Cussing out an Admin just might be a permanent ban and not just a one month suspension."

You most likely were banned to make an example out of you. If they had let you back after your apology, it would have most likely set off a precedent where Posters would think they could just cuss out Admins, get banned, and then apologize and be let back. Yes, having an Admin harass and insult you constantly is annoying, but you should have asked for advice before cussing out the Admin. The advice most likely would have been something like, "Please don't cuss her out. Cussing out an Admin just might be a permanent ban and not just a one month suspension."

I usually was sweet and cheerful on that Website and had one fed up cussing rant after being harassed and insulted by the Admin. I thought for sure my fed up cussing rant would just be seen as an out of character snap and I'd just get a one month Suspension for it as I usually didn't act aggressive like in that fed up cussing rant.

I believe one other aspect deserves mention. There is considerable mental illness on the internet. Much of it undiagnosed. It's entirely possible that the moderator you tangled with has suffered a deteriorating state, and is exploiting their position of power as a podium from which to "right" perceived wrongs, by holding school over their adversaries.

Wouldn't be the first time that authority has been used to mask personal failings :wave:

I usually was sweet and cheerful on that Website and had one fed up cussing rant after being harassed and insulted by the Admin. I thought for sure my fed up cussing rant would just be seen as an out of character snap and I'd just get a one month Suspension for it as I usually didn't act aggressive like in that fed up cussing rant.

The fact you can't let it go and keep defending yourself is disturbing. Not to even mention the "boy's club" who keep sticking up for you.

LOL, maybe we could make this thread like one of those other silly threads that keep getting perpetual life for no good reason? An "emotional support" thread? :)

The fact you can't let it go and keep defending yourself is disturbing. Not to even mention the "boy's club" who keep sticking up for you.

Of course I can't let it go. I want to be reinstated there. I loved that place very much and want to be back there. I was thrown out like trash over one fed up cussing rant. Of course I'm bitter and resentful. I want to be back there.

Why do you think you were treated like Trash because you play the lottery....Your mind seems to wander too much, do what you want to do and don't let others influence.

I don't play the lottery and it's a losers game. The chances of winning anything are I believe impossible...

You can become a Billionaire before taxes with only $2. ;) What's not to love about the Lottery? ;)

What's not to love about the Lottery? ;)

Plus, if you win, you could use some of the winnings to make life miserable for the nemesis moderator this thread is based upon. :D

That "audacity of hope" thing......

[QUOTE=River Jordan;6123995]You can become a Billionaire before taxes with only $2. ;) What's not to love about the Lottery? ;)[/QUOT

And you could Win a Lot of MISERY with that Toxic money.
Those mega lotteries are for losers, those addicted to gambling, so they keep putting their hard earned
money into the gambler's dream.

This gambling stuff reminds me of a son of a well known celebrity who has a 3 hr segment on one of our radio stations, he had 4 hrs and he just lost an hr due to management decisions, well he is a "small time gambler" and he forever talks about his addiction which includes the horses, lotteries and just about anything else he can get into with little money. His poor wife and daughtrer.

Plus, if you win, you could use some of the winnings to make life miserable for the nemesis moderator this thread is based upon. :D

That "audacity of hope" thing......

I remember someone saying something like,"If River Jordan ever wins the Lottery, watch that Website that ragged and dragged him and then he was thrown out of after making a one time fed up cussing rant that he apologized for multiple times reinstate him and suck up to him and act like they are all his best friends!

Money is power, and exerting power over others just to watch them squirm can be very fulfilling. The wealthy do it all the time. And, I suppose that if there is a perception of having been "wronged", the opportunity to balance the books is just that much sweeter.

To MOST of us Money is Food, Clothing, Housing, Helping Others.

To the Greedy it's Power...

Yes, I suspect that the impoverished get very little mileage out of greed

River Jordan, maybe you should copy and paste the cussing rant that got you permanently banned from there and edit the cussing words or something like that. More SO Posters might be on your side if they actually see the post. There is a huge difference between just randomly throwing cusswords like an immature potty mouth Sailor at an Admin and reasonably and angrily stating your side. More Posters might be on your side if it's the latter and not the former.

River Jordan, maybe you should copy and paste the cussing rant that got you permanently banned from there and edit the cussing words or something like that. More SO Posters might be on your side if they actually see the post. There is a huge difference between just randomly throwing cusswords like an immature potty mouth Sailor at an Admin and reasonably and angrily stating your side. More Posters might be on your side if it's the latter and not the former.

"This post right here is the final straw. I am so sick of you and your bull. You're an ahole. You're condescending, a Count, female prick, an ass. F you and your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am tired of having to suck up to you and smile politely just because you are a Mod and because of the Keep It PG Rule, when I've been wanting to tell you off and rip you a new one for a very long time. There isn't a "F you," button which I would have used on your last very unjust post towards me. I actually was about to cuss you out in the other thread that you accused me of hijacking, called Harassment. You accused me of hijacking a thread that had my NAME in the OP! I was talked out of cussing you out, but you doing this s towards me again warrants the cussing out I should have done in the Harassment thread days ago."

This is the edited post that got me banned when I was expecting a one month Suspension.

This is also a PG site. How long until you start trashing a moderator/admin here you don't like? I doubt that admin's insults of you were anything like the foul-mouthed, heavily attacking tirade you gave her. :rolleyes:

This is also a PG site. How long until you start trashing a moderator/admin here you don't like? I doubt that admin's insults of you were anything like the foul-mouthed, heavily attacking tirade you gave her. :rolleyes:


She harassed me for three years and I gave her one fed up cussing rant (The one I posted above) and apologized multiple times for!

She harassed me for three years and I gave her one fed up cussing rant (The one I posted above) and apologized multiple times for!

I've been weighing your predicament for a few days now.

And what I've concluded is, no...you were not out of line expressing your true feelings.

HOWEVER, it's very unrealistic of you to think you can do that AND expect to be reinstated

Some things you just can't "unsay"...once you let those feelings out, the target can never think of you again without remembering those words as yours.

So, own it.

I get into discussions from time to time where I just pause and think that if I tell the person what they REALLY deserve to hear.....the relationship I have with that person is going to forever be changed....there is a definite "point of no return" in terms of ill will.between individuals.

And once crossed....etc

I always try to put myself in the others position. Think about the position you've put the moderator in. You dressed this person down in front of other members, The mod really cannot re-instate you without losing the respect in the community they deserve. So in a way you painted them into a corner.

My advice? Savor the moment. Be glad that you stood up for what you believe in, and go forward. Just not at that particular community. Go find greener pastures.

Can't help thinking about what James says in the bible about the tongue. ;)

She harassed me for three years and I gave her one fed up cussing rant (The one I posted above) and apologized multiple times for!

Apologized??? Why --- didn't you mean what you said. Find another forum and let this go, why continue to beat a dead horse????

I've been weighing your predicament for a few days now.

And what I've concluded is, no...you were not out of line expressing your true feelings.

HOWEVER, it's very unrealistic of you to think you can do that AND expect to be reinstated

Some things you just can't "unsay"...once you let those feelings out, the target can never think of you again without remembering those words as yours.

So, own it.

I get into discussions from time to time where I just pause and think that if I tell the person what they REALLY deserve to hear.....the relationship I have with that person is going to forever be changed....there is a definite "point of no return" in terms of ill will.between individuals.

And once crossed....etc

I always try to put myself in the others position. Think about the position you've put the moderator in. You dressed this person down in front of other members, The mod really cannot re-instate you without losing the respect in the community they deserve. So in a way you painted them into a corner.

My advice? Savor the moment. Be glad that you stood up for what you believe in, and go forward. Just not at that particular community. Go find greener pastures.

Can't help thinking about what James says in the bible about the tongue. ;)


Hmm. Janice Johnson said something about making an example out of me saying something like,"Reinstating you just because you apologized for the cussing rant may have started a precedent where Posters could think they could cuss out Admins and expect to be reinstated if they apologize."

Hmm. Janice Johnson said something about making an example out of me saying something like,"Reinstating you just because you apologized for the cussing rant may have started a precedent where Posters could think they could cuss out Admins and expect to be reinstated if they apologize."

Yeah, I think Janice is right. I'm a little more focused upon how it would make the mods look bad if they allowed your return, whereas Janice is saying it would have looked bad if they didn't ban you in the first place.

But either way, you should own it...:D

Watching spilled milk dry (to use a mixed metaphor) is unlikely to be very productive

About as fruitful as a deep Vee neckline on Bridget Moynahan

Yeah, I think Janice is right. I'm a little more focused upon how it would make the mods look bad if they allowed your return, whereas Janice is saying it would have looked bad if they didn't ban you in the first place.

But either way, you should own it...:D

Watching spilled milk dry (to use a mixed metaphor) is unlikely to be very productive

About as fruitful as a deep Vee neckline on Bridget Moynahan


I was permanently banned after the cussing rant and four days later on a connected Website, I begun to show real doubts about cussing the Admin out and then I soon apologized for the cussing rant on connected Websites because I wanted to be reinstated, not because I felt I was wrong (I was still VERY pissed off at the Admin when I apologized on the connected Websites) I still don't get how someone who threatened to go on a shooting spree after he lost a lot of money gambling only got an extended Suspension and I made one fed up cussing rant and I got a permanent nuke. Threatening to go on a shooting spree after losing a lot of money seems to be a much bigger unforgivable offense than a one time fed up cussing rant that was apologized for multiple times.

The Admin in question sporadically posts and hasn't even visited in 4 months! The Head Admin sure chose the right choice, choosing to be on her side over my side! :rolleyes: I should have been reinstated since my biggest problem there rarely even visits anymore! Even the Head Admin on a connecting Website admitted I had a good point that since my biggest problem there rarely even visits there, I should be reinstated, but chose to uphold the permanent banning. :rolleyes:

Could there possibly be a "bigger" picture involved?

I got to thinking about this in the good samaritan thread, where we were talking about the cashier who was talking to a friend who was also a customer, the customer got distracted with the discussion and left without paying for one item. And upon discovering the oversight decided to teach her kid an abject lesson by going back to pay for the item. And in so doing the cashier loses her job.

What I got to thinking about was the "oversight" might have just been a convenient excuse to get rid of an otherwise problematic employee.. Things that might not be so easy to fire over, but make the employer glad to be rid of?

I remember When I managed a retail store, my cashiers were supposed to handle sales at the terminal, AND restock shelves. And their productivity in restocking shelves was crucial to the stores success.

But, they'd get these long winded "friends" who were also customers, would conclude their transaction, and then stand there 20-30 minutes chatting about the latest happenings, keeping my cashiers from their other (less pleasant) job responsibilities?

I used to really have to patrol for that, it was like a fire that never completely went out, always smoldering and ready to come back to life.

Perhaps this cashier in the samaritan thread had similar chattieness issues, and the boss simply seized upon the opportunity to say "okay, now the gabbyness is costing the store merchandise shrinkage"?

And your banning at this forum might similarly be a result of more than you are aware of? A "convenient excuse" type affair.

Just a thought.

LOL. one of the more gabby customers who seemed to befriend all my cashier's, was a lot like the teacher on the old Magic School Bus cartoon. Whenever I'd see her come in I always knew it was only a matter of time before she had ground my girls productivity to a halt. So, in addition to my regular duties, I always had to keep an eye out for the inevitable,

After that has gone on for an extended time, it's easy to start thinking the offenders disrespect your rule of order, and rather than having to keep putting out the same fires, time and again, you start to consider firing one to get the message across to the -prime cause. Figuring that once MS Magic School Bus realizes she has cost someone their jobs, perhaps her indifference has consequences beyond her control? Perhaps you were similarly made a sacrificial lamb?

https://i.imgur.com/hIzrrKx.jpg

I remember over at the old TV Land message boards, I created a user named "Winky Beaverspyer, and for an avatar used a picture of a woman in a bikini sitting in an extremely immodest posture. There was absolutely nothing obscene about the picture, nothing you wouldn't see on any family approved public beach,.

But the picture coupled with the username just provoked decent people into thinking indecent thoughts, and the torch and pitchfork mafia came after me.

So, in a gesture of accommodation, I pasted on a tiny graphic of a christmas present, wrapping paper, ribbon, bow, the whole works, located so as to cover the prime real estate.

People were even more outraged.... Just goes to prove what I have always believed. People seeking the opportunity to be offended are seldom disappointed.

Sometimes it's not so much what you say that counts, but rather how you say it.

I remember over at the old TV Land message boards, I created a user named "Winky Beaverspyer, and for an avatar used a picture of a woman in a bikini sitting in an extremely immodest posture. There was absolutely nothing obscene about the picture, nothing you wouldn't see on any family approved public beach,.

But the picture coupled with the username just provoked decent people into thinking indecent thoughts, and the torch and pitchfork mafia came after me.

So, in a gesture of accommodation, I pasted on a tiny graphic of a christmas present, wrapping paper, ribbon, bow, the whole works, located so as to cover the prime real estate.

People were even more outraged.... Just goes to prove what I have always believed. People seeking the opportunity to be offended are seldom disappointed.

Sometimes it's not so much what you say that counts, but rather how you say it.


You covered the bikini picture and People got MORE mad? : confused:

This is also a PG site. How long until you start trashing a moderator/admin here you don't like? I doubt that admin's insults of you were anything like the foul-mouthed, heavily attacking tirade you gave her. :rolleyes:

No Mods here have made me mad enough to even think of doing a cussing rant. I clearly said in my cussing rant that I quoted that that Admin she had been harassing and insulting me. Anyways, she should have seen the writing on the wall when I snarkily told her,"Newsflash. I'm not hijacking anything. My name is mentioned in the first post in the Harassment Thread." Very soon after this post, I did the cussing rant (I mentioned I almost cussed her out in the harassment thread when she unfairly accused me of hijacking, but was talked out of it,)

You covered the bikini picture and People got MORE mad? : confused:

I placed the gift wrapped present on top of a key aspect of the immodest girl's anatomy.

Consider that there was nothing showing in the original photo that was obscene, it was just the immodest pose of the person in the picture that had people riled up. "giftwrapping" it with a bow only drew more attention to it, objectifying the girl in the process.

My point here is that I successfully used the imaginations of the viewers to mentally complete the picture, so I used the obscenity in their own minds almost as well as if I had posted something obscene.

You could have done similar with your little outburst, using benign terms that inspired the reader to fill in the vulgar aspect in their heads....that way you aren't the bad guy, yet have the same effect.

Most people who crab the loudest about being "offended" already have evil thoughts in their own minds, but are just looking for an excuse to blame someone else for them.

Such folks are willing to do all the heavy lifting, on their own, IF/WHEN properly motivated.

It's our jobs to find that motivation.....:lol:

I placed the gift wrapped present on top of a key aspect of the immodest girl's anatomy.

Consider that there was nothing showing in the original photo that was obscene, it was just the immodest pose of the person in the picture that had people riled up. "giftwrapping" it with a bow only drew more attention to it, objectifying the girl in the process.

My point here is that I successfully used the imaginations of the viewers to mentally complete the picture, so I used the obscenity in their own minds almost as well as if I had posted something obscene.

You could have done similar with your little outburst, using benign terms that inspired the reader to fill in the vulgar aspect in their heads....that way you aren't the bad guy, yet have the same effect.

Most people who crab the loudest about being "offended" already have evil thoughts in their own minds, but are just looking for an excuse to blame someone else for them.

Such folks are willing to do all the heavy lifting, on their own, IF properly motivated.


It's our jobs to find that motivation.....:lol:

Okay. You put the gift wrapped present over the girl's VAGINA. I can see why People got MORE mad.

I put the picture of the gift wrapped present over the bikini bottom the girl was wearing, any ties to specific anatomy were in the complainer's head......

LOL, let's just say that I placed the picture, (as they now say in that "Lume" deodorant commercial) in someplace other than pecs....

Oh brother, this goes on and on!!!!!!!!!

I put the picture of the gift wrapped present over the bikini bottom the girl was wearing, any ties to specific anatomy were in the complainer's head......


Bikini bottoms cover VAGINAS, no wonder the People got mad.

Bikini bottoms cover VAGINAS, no wonder the People got mad.

I think I understand how you are getting banned so many places. Your "bedside manner" is extremely blunt, and I suspect it rubs many folks the wrong way.

Let me put it another way. There are many folks out there who feel entitled to "govern" the internet. And they resent independent thinking not aligned with their own. You'll often see such people claiming "this (the internet) is our living room" and stuff like that, which tips off that they believe they are sharing THEIR internet with the rest of us common folk. (so nice of them?)

Anyway, whenever they observe someone abusing their internet, their first inclination is to get the "trouble maker" censored or removed...

And, blunt language such as you seem to prefer, just makes their job that much easier.

That'smy 2 cents anyway, I prefer the more subtle approach, that gets the same message across, but doesn't give the complainers a solid footing to stand on. :eek:

Oh brother, this goes on and on!!!!!!!!!

Whats the matter Caroline13? Perhaps you might find this thread more enjyable if we framed it in the context of one of the banal post count builder game threads that you so enjoy?

Lets give it a try?

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT HOW HE CUSSED HER OUT.....RIGHT NOW?

There, is that better, precious? :lol:

I think I understand how you are getting banned so many places. Your "bedside manner" is extremely blunt, and I suspect it rubs many folks the wrong way.

Let me put it another way. There are many folks out there who feel entitled to "govern" the internet. And they resent independent thinking not aligned with their own. You'll often see such people claiming "this (the internet) is our living room" and stuff like that, which tips off that they believe they are sharing THEIR internet with the rest of us common folk. (so nice of them?)

Anyway, whenever they observe someone abusing their internet, their first inclination is to get the "trouble maker" censored or removed...

And, blunt language such as you seem to prefer, just makes their job that much easier.

That'smy 2 cents anyway, I prefer the more subtle approach, that gets the same message across, but doesn't give the complainers a solid footing to stand on. :eek:

Sorry, I came off as an Ash in those posts. I was in a cranky mood and I feel better now and I'm like,"Ooh, I should NOT have said that. "

Oh brother, this goes on and on!!!!!!!!!

Gee Caroline13, given your contempt for food expiration dates,..I'd have assumed you could see the value in keeping vintage threads alive, too? :devil: