For me it was Donald Eugene Webb's wife successfully hiding him out until he died, and then burying him in the backyard.

Also, the fact that Patricia Carlton was found alive after 30+ years of being missing seemed like a highly unlikely outcome.

The text update about Stephen Marfeo shooting and killing his ex-girlfriend 9 years after Doreen Marfeo's disappearance was not something I was expecting.

The Wendy Camp update for me. I think we all suspected the Noe's were involved, but the sheer brutality of killing a mom, teen and a child shocked me.

Dennis DePue stands out for me, especially when the update originally aired. That was crazy.

The Wendy Camp update for me. I think we all suspected the Noe's were involved, but the sheer brutality of killing a mom, teen and a child shocked me.

Same. Not that they did it -- but that they finally found the bodies and nailed them for it.

I had seen that case so many times in repeats over the years and then I found UM on Pluto and was binging episodes and that one popped up and when the update flashed I about swooned.

That was always a great part about UM - watching the repeats over the years, seeing the same cases over and over and then that little moment at the end when they cut to an Update.

Dennis DePue stands out for me, especially when the update originally aired. That was crazy.

That would be my biggest shock to an update while UM was still on the air. And being a local (Michigan) case for me, I still remember getting ready for school (I was in 4th grade) and dad reading the morning newspaper and him showing me the article about Dennis killing himself after being featured on UM. I would eventually learn that Marilyn Depue grew up in my city and actually went to high school with my uncle.

I agree with being in total shock over Patricia Carlton being found. She disappeared in 1971 and was found alive and healthy in 2005. I don’t remember anything but a text update about this on Lifetime. You would think her being found would have gotten publicity. This is the kind of story you could read about in People Mahazine. I’m assuming the family requested some type of privacy or something.

I agree with being in total shock over Patricia Carlton being found. She disappeared in 1971 and was found alive and healthy in 2005. I don’t remember anything but a text update about this on Lifetime. You would think her being found would have gotten publicity. This is the kind of story you could read about in People Mahazine. I’m assuming the family requested some type of privacy or something.

Yeah, I think we would all still be clamoring for a lengthy update on this one.

For a minute, I was confusing her case with that other lady who was found alive after many decades. She was clearly far from mentally stable. They featured her in the update. She had worked as a cleaning lady (I'm guessing under the table) since disappearing. Lorene Roberts, I believe.

Update WHILE the show was airing: Definitely the Stephen Marfeo update. That was bananas.

Update while the show was NOT airing: The capture of the ONS/EAR/Golden State Killer. I DID NOT EVER expect that one to be cracked.

Ok.. as usual, you folks will have to help me out on which case this was.. i think there were TWO of them with basically the same outcome..

DNA was recovered from the scene of the crime.. and eventually matched up to a suspect.. and the suspect had been found dead in a swamp/lake/creek/something a few years after the original crime?


I didn't think Dennis Depue was overly shocking.. Maybe the whole part about him living with the woman and he had the show on in the background.. But.. How else did anyone expect that to end? I never particularly saw him being taken alive.

It was just mentioned in another thread so it's fresh on my memory now, but the Christophe Day update was definitely the most shocking for me when I was watching the show on Lifetime in 2003.

another update that stands out is the Sammy Wheeler case. that entire segment is crazy with the 3 suspects accusing one another and then it turns out to be a random act of violence. I've just read up more on it and apparently the killer recently got out on parole.

Dennis DePue stands out for me, especially when the update originally aired. That was crazy.

absolutely, I think the amount of detail and vivid witness accounts that were given in that update really set it apart. leaves me wishing that all the updates could be that good. the Jim Burnside update was similar for me with the shootout with police and the amount of details that were given. it was also satisfying knowing that he was put away and could not hurt anymore women.

The Kari Lynn Nixon update where she was murdered the night she disappeared and the woman in South Carolina? was mistaken. Pretty much makes me question any eyewitness from now on...

It was just mentioned in another thread so it's fresh on my memory now, but the Christophe Day update was definitely the most shocking for me when I was watching the show on Lifetime in 2003.

Ohhhhhh! That’s a good one. I remember the first time I read that text update on Lifetime. I went from shock to immediate anger and wanting to throw my TV remote across the room. But then I got suspicious because I wouldn’t put it past Betty to lie to Bill about Christophe dying. To this day, I’m hesitant to take Betty at her word.

Ohhhhhh! That’s a good one. I remember the first time I read that text update on Lifetime. I went from shock to immediate anger and wanting to throw my TV remote across the room. But then I got suspicious because I wouldn’t put it past Betty to lie to Bill about Christophe dying. To this day, I’m hesitant to take Betty at her word.

I didn’t realize that she was the only source that has confirmed Christophe died? If that’s the case then I 100% don’t believe he died

Cindy Wisemiller.

The woman who stole money from the armored car company she worked for. Her family members seemed honestly puzzled by the whole thing but it turned out they were lying and knew exactly what happened and exactly where she was.

There are several: Danny Paquette & Morris Davis.

Also, I truly never thought we would find out what happened to Joyce McClain, Michaela Garecht, Bobbie Jo Obelhozer & Annette Schnee & the other long ago cases from UM's early years. But thanks to some determined detectives, forensic science and a little luck, those cases were solved.

Now, if we could just get some final answers and/or justice in the cases of Nyleen Kay Marshall, Michael Rosenblum, Debby, Dottie Caylor and the many others I will undoubtedly think of after hitting send on this message.

Some of the cases that have been "solved" after so many years I find a bit suspicous. Often there is very little evidence connecting someone to the crime other than some miraculous forensic evidence that apparently did not exist before. This is especially true when the supposed perp is allready dead.

Ohhhhhh! That’s a good one. I remember the first time I read that text update on Lifetime. I went from shock to immediate anger and wanting to throw my TV remote across the room. But then I got suspicious because I wouldn’t put it past Betty to lie to Bill about Christophe dying. To this day, I’m hesitant to take Betty at her word.

Yeah for sure, that was such a torment to watch the segment and then the update just poured salt in the wounds. we are so used to the update being positive so it definitely floored me when I saw it. interestingly, I think I've only seen that segment that one time on lifetime in 2003.

I was surprised by the update to the Traci Kenley/Bill Rundle disappearance. I don’t think that anyone could have “backed into a pond and disappeared so completely that it would take two years for their vehicle and remains to be found” on their list of most likely explanations.

It also seems like a cruel way to die.

I was surprised by the update to the Traci Kenley/Bill Rundle disappearance. I don’t think that anyone could have “backed into a pond and disappeared so completely that it would take two years for their vehicle and remains to be found” on their list of most likely explanations.

It also seems like a cruel way to die.

This is a good one. Did not see that coming.

The man who brought joy to children by playing the role of Santa finding out his daughter had been killed in an explosion at 18. Even worse and not mentioned by UM, the explosion was no accident and his daughter was killed by her estranged husband, who also died in the explosion and took an innocent bystander with them.

Like most people, I had always subscribed to the theory that Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman were abducted, but never expected to learn they had been alive for days afterward. Another very tragic update, especially to learn that they could have been saved had investigators followed the lead of the insurance card found at the scene.

Rick Church hiding out with Tony Alamo, of all people, while on the run.

Tim Molnar being found in a block of ice thousands of miles from his home.

Need a lighthearted one after all the sad ones: Judy and Becky, the childhood friends who were reunited, getting a call from their first boyfriend during their reunion.

Also surprising to me the first time was Loretta Myers being found alive and well after her husband took advantage of her and dragged her all around the country, including that creepy part where the car was hiding in the woods. Was super happy to see her being reunited with her family.

Like most people, I had always subscribed to the theory that Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman were abducted, but never expected to learn they had been alive for days afterward. Another very tragic update, especially to learn that they could have been saved had investigators followed the lead of the insurance card found at the scene.

This is still so painful to think about. Can you imagine being the Bibles...knowing that the girls could have been saved if the insurance card was investigated properly. They must be tortured every day wondering about all the what if scenarios.

Rick Church hiding out with Tony Alamo, of all people, while on the run.

This one in particular was such a trip to find out about. When two seemingly unrelated UM cases end up having a tie in, I find that very fascinating.

Rick Church hiding out with Tony Alamo, of all people, while on the run.

I'mmmmm sorry, whaaaaat?? How did I miss this? Do you have any extra info or a link? I'm fascinated.

I'mmmmm sorry, whaaaaat?? How did I miss this? Do you have any extra info or a link? I'm fascinated.

https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=263438

Here's a thread detailing AMW's update on the case.

Also, if you look up articles about Church, just prior to his capture he was dating a 16-year-old girl who could tell he had a nasty temper. His fellow coworkers all really loved him. It's kind of a wild ride to read about all the things he did on the run.

https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=263438

Here's a thread detailing AMW's update on the case.

Also, if you look up articles about Church, just prior to his capture he was dating a 16-year-old girl who could tell he had a nasty temper. His fellow coworkers all really loved him. It's kind of a wild ride to read about all the things he did on the run.

Thanks! What an interesting coincidence.

I'mmmmm sorry, whaaaaat?? How did I miss this? Do you have any extra info or a link? I'm fascinated.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-07-26-9203070307-story.html

It’s wild that he actually worked in the “sweatshop” where those ridiculous jackets were manufactured.

Like most people, I had always subscribed to the theory that Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman were abducted, but never expected to learn they had been alive for days afterward. Another very tragic update, especially to learn that they could have been saved had investigators followed the lead of the insurance card found at the scene.


If they are telling the truth about what they did to those girls, it is horrifying. Not that murder is great, but it would have been better if they just treated them as collateral damage and shot them both and had them burn in the fire rather than kidnap them, torture them and I assume rape them before eventually murdering them.

And yet with all of this, there still is not either of their bodies. They are still on the doenetwork.org as missing, because technically they still are. To be Lauria Bible's parents must be emotionally draining.



Also, I truly never thought we would find out what happened to Joyce McClain, Michaela Garecht, Bobbie Jo Obelhozer & Annette Schnee & the other long ago cases from UM's early years. But thanks to some determined detectives, forensic science and a little luck, those cases were solved.



We know who it was that took and presumably killed Michaela, but we don't know where she is. These guys are just scum. The dude has been in prison since 1989, he isn't going anywhere. Surely you can recall where you dumped the body of a 9 year old even if it was 30 years ago.

Also, I truly never thought we would find out what happened to Joyce McClain, Michaela Garecht, Bobbie Jo Obelhozer & Annette Schnee & the other long ago cases from UM's early years. But thanks to some determined detectives, forensic science and a little luck, those cases were solved.

Bobbie Oberholtzer & Annette Schnee - While a longshot to be solved, the fact that Bobbie's mitten had blood on it gave me a tiny bit of hope thanks to DNA tests. We knew the blood was from a male and we knew it wasn't Jeff's. My biggest fear was that the blood would finally lead to a suspect but after 40 years, he wouldn't be alive anymore to receive his punishment. So happy to be wrong about that.

Joyce McClain - Again, it was a longshot. But I was able to hold on to the tiniest bit of hope when her remains were dug up after nearly 30 years and new evidence was able to be retrieved because her remains had been preserved.

Michaela Garecht - I agree with this one. There were no circumstances about this case that ever led me to believe it would be solved.

I'd also add Lisa Ziegert to this list. I had my doubts that this would ever be solved. And that broke my heart because the Ziegert family seemed like the nicest people in every interview I saw of them. Imagine my surprise and shock when it was reported her killer had finally been captured. I didn't know that DNA had been gathered from her crime scene, enough to make that computer generated photo which turned out to be shockingly accurate to how Gary Schara looked at the time of the murder. I was so happy that he was captured.

Anyone have in their UM collection the Nyleen Marshall,Bill Rundle,Kari Lynn Nixon segments With the Lifetime update at the end(blue background,update typed out,creepy theme music playing)?

I think the Kristi Krebs,Dale Kerstetter,Patricia Carlton also had an alternate text update later on

Anyone have in their UM collection the Nyleen Marshall,Bill Rundle,Kari Lynn Nixon segments With the Lifetime update at the end(blue background,update typed out,creepy theme music playing)?

I think the Kristi Krebs,Dale Kerstetter,Patricia Carlton also had an alternate text update later on

I purchased the UM theme music vinyl just so I can have the update music. it actually plays for an extended period on the track. I love it. wish I had those old lifetime segements. never thought to record them and I wish I had.

man I missed out on this thread. Tony Alamo sweatshop lol. what a time to be alive.

Dennis DePue stands out for me, especially when the update originally aired. That was crazy.

To think that he was making sure the woman he was with didn't see his segment and they were regular UM viewers! Crazy.

1) The Elizabeth Campbell update. They found the purse??? That's it???
2) Ryan Stallings. When Robert Stack announced that calls poured into the telecenter with physicians familiar with MMA, which Ryan Stallings died of. Goosebumps.
3) Judy Davis and Becky Terry reunion. Heartwarming update. And the guy that they both dated when they were in junior high called and left his number with UM the night of the broadcast.

Need a lighthearted one after all the sad ones: Judy and Becky, the childhood friends who were reunited, getting a call from their first boyfriend during their reunion.

I posted that one too! I loved that update. Real BFFs in every sense of the word. And the call with David Major (the first boyfriend) was pure gold. He sounded like he was still such a nice guy all those years later.

1) The Elizabeth Campbell update. They found the purse??? That's it???
2) Ryan Stallings. When Robert Stack announced that calls poured into the telecenter with physicians familiar with MMA, which Ryan Stallings died of. Goosebumps.
3) Judy Davis and Becky Terry reunion. Heartwarming update. And the guy that they both dated when they were in junior high called and left his number with UM the night of the broadcast.

Yeah and I think the Elizabeth Campbell update left out the info of where her purse was found? maybe I'm wrong about that, but it was found far away in west Texas IIRC. I went down a rabbit hole about 6 months ago looking at that.

speaking of heartwarming, one of my favorite shocking updates was Stephan ross who came to America after WWII. He was searching for an American soldier that helped him in Germany. I saw an update recently that he was reunited with the soldier's family. it was surprising to me because I had watched that segment for years with no update and thought that it would never be solved.

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/The_Friend_of_Stephan_Ross#:~:text=May%201%2C%201945-,Case,live%20with%20a%20Catholic%20family.

Ohhhhhh! That’s a good one. I remember the first time I read that text update on Lifetime. I went from shock to immediate anger and wanting to throw my TV remote across the room. But then I got suspicious because I wouldn’t put it past Betty to lie to Bill about Christophe dying. To this day, I’m hesitant to take Betty at her word.

ughh I was able to revisit this segment. and I think you are on to something. for some reason this resonated with me now a lot more than it did when you posted it a while back.

trying to find a thread that fit this one.

but watching the Kathy Hobbs segment today, I couldn't help but being taken back at an update that I saw today that said "Michael Lockhart has been identified as a suspect in this case, he has since been executed." I was taken back a little because I felt like it was a palate cleanser compared to the "has since been released" updates where people were sentenced to 50 years to life. all that to say I'm not even a pro death penalty person. I'm like 99% against it, but make an exception for people like this.

The Kari Nixon segment that had the Lifetime rerun blue smokescreen text update at the end. Saying that she was killed the same night she went missing, the girl at the NKOTB concert was not her, and her killer could have a relatively early parole out year. All this was shook after the segment focused so much on her sightings long after she went missing

Anyone have the segment with that Lifetime text update?

Update WHILE the show was airing: Definitely the Stephen Marfeo update. That was bananas.

Update while the show was NOT airing: The capture of the ONS/EAR/Golden State Killer. I DID NOT EVER expect that one to be cracked.

It’s funny you mention EAR/ONS. In the months leading up to the arrest, there was more local media coverage of the case. Mostly news segments like “is he still alive?”. Weeks leading up to the arrest there were a couple billboards that went up with the composite drawings. The vibe was heavy around Sac, they were putting on the pressure until the DNA could come back.

Beverly McGowan's case was a surprise. I did not have "Elaine Parent shot herself when police came to arrest her" on my bingo card. But given how she lived her life, it's not a surprise after all. Nobody even knows her real name. Still, it was a literal blaze of glory.

Beverly McGowan's case was a surprise. I did not have "Elaine Parent shot herself when police came to arrest her" on my bingo card. But given how she lived her life, it's not a surprise after all. Nobody even knows her real name. Still, it was a literal blaze of glory.

Or the fact that she told police she wanted to change her clothes before they drove her to the station….and they said, “yes.” Allowing her to take the coward’s way out. WTF?

Don’t let murderers leave the room, police. Considering where she was going, her outfit didn’t need to be a priority.

Or the fact that she told police she wanted to change her clothes before they drove her to the station….and they said, “yes.” Allowing her to take the coward’s way out. WTF?

Don’t let murderers leave the room, police. Considering where she was going, her outfit didn’t need to be a priority.

That always seemed bizarre to me: it's not like it's a quick trip to the station to be released a few hours later: they knew she was wanted for a brutal murder and was a high flight risk facing a potential life sentence!

I'm no police or justice expert but wouldn't the #1 priority for a murder or similar violent suspect be immediately getting a pair of handcuffs on and searching for weapons before anything else? She would obviously be getting a new set of clothes where she was headed

Yeah and I think the Elizabeth Campbell update left out the info of where her purse was found? maybe I'm wrong about that, but it was found far away in west Texas

Yeah it was left out of the Filmrise version, but luckily it is still out there and just as creepy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oS5lyZb36cI

Yeah it was left out of the Filmrise version, but luckily it is still out there and just as creepy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oS5lyZb36cI

thanks for posting!

That sweet man who dressed up as Santa Claus-- Felix, I think his name was?-- was looking for his daughter, and then it said on the update that he found out she died in some kind of freak explosion as a teenager.

WOW.

That sweet man who dressed up as Santa Claus-- Felix, I think his name was?-- was looking for his daughter, and then it said on the update that he found out she died in some kind of freak explosion as a teenager.

WOW.

That wasn't a freak explosion was it? Isn't that the one where her boyfriend/husband blew up the car they were in? Yeah.. That was it.

There were two of these that were.. similar.. I mean, not, but.. There was another man searching for his daughter and I think the outcome was that she died in a traffic accident at age 18 in Alaska.. Don't remember the name of the person or the man searching for her..

That sweet man who dressed up as Santa Claus-- Felix, I think his name was?-- was looking for his daughter, and then it said on the update that he found out she died in some kind of freak explosion as a teenager.

WOW.

It was a murder/suicide by the girl’s boyfriend who lured her to the spot it happened. The explosion also killed a 10 year old girl who was walking down the sidewalk and eating an ice cream cone.

My mouth hit the floor when I first heard that update. That poor, sweet man spent all those years looking for his daughter and then he finds out she had been killed decades earlier…like that. It was tragic.

That always seemed bizarre to me: it's not like it's a quick trip to the station to be released a few hours later: they knew she was wanted for a brutal murder and was a high flight risk facing a potential life sentence!

I'm no police or justice expert but wouldn't the #1 priority for a murder or similar violent suspect be immediately getting a pair of handcuffs on and searching for weapons before anything else? She would obviously be getting a new set of clothes where she was headed

I often give LEO the benefit of the doubt because we don't know what it's like on the ground, but that seems like one of the biggest epic fails in UM history. It allowed Elaine Parent to take her secrets to the grave, and there were a LOT of them.

I often give LEO the benefit of the doubt because we don't know what it's like on the ground, but that seems like one of the biggest epic fails in UM history. It allowed Elaine Parent to take her secrets to the grave, and there were a LOT of them.

At times.. And this likely is one of those times..

They were arresting someone who.. Had left a long trail of false names and identities behind her. This could EASILY have been a case of mistaken identity.

Just to mention the flip side of what this could have been.. There was a grandmother in.. Somewhere out west who was arrested and spent time in jail on a mistaken identity..

Penny McCarthy.. that's it and she lived in Phoenix

https://ij.org/press-release/woman-suing-us-marshals-over-false-arrest-overcomes-critical-legal-hurdle/

I've watched a number of cases on the youtube channel "The Civil Rights Lawyer".. Cops screw up.. BAD sometimes.

I saw a case where another grandmother from TN spent 3 months in jail because police from one of the Dakotas ran a suspect picture through AI facial recognition, which came back as a match to this woman.. Wasn't her. The extradited her after 3 months, said "oops" and released her. Leaving her 1000 miles from home.. Didn't even send her back.

You can read that one here. https://www.wowt.com/2026/03/15/grandmother-says-she-was-wrongfully-put-jail-crime-due-facial-recognition-error/

At times.. And this likely is one of those times..

They were arresting someone who.. Had left a long trail of false names and identities behind her. This could EASILY have been a case of mistaken identity.

Just to mention the flip side of what this could have been.. There was a grandmother in.. Somewhere out west who was arrested and spent time in jail on a mistaken identity..

Penny McCarthy.. that's it and she lived in Phoenix

https://ij.org/press-release/woman-suing-us-marshals-over-false-arrest-overcomes-critical-legal-hurdle/

I've watched a number of cases on the youtube channel "The Civil Rights Lawyer".. Cops screw up.. BAD sometimes.

I saw a case where another grandmother from TN spent 3 months in jail because police from one of the Dakotas ran a suspect picture through AI facial recognition, which came back as a match to this woman.. Wasn't her. The extradited her after 3 months, said "oops" and released her. Leaving her 1000 miles from home.. Didn't even send her back.

You can read that one here. https://www.wowt.com/2026/03/15/grandmother-says-she-was-wrongfully-put-jail-crime-due-facial-recognition-error/

The dark side of technology, like "Minority Report"...

The dark side of technology, like "Minority Report"...

To me, at least.. You don't blame the tech. You blame the people who blindly followed the tech.

There's ZERO excuse for what happened in the Angela Lipps case. She's the one that spent 3 months in jail in TN before being extradited to North Dakota based on facial recognition.

She will - and should - get a payday out of it. the sad part is, when the cops screw up like this.. It's us - the taxpayers - that wind up providing that payday.

Technically.. most cities have insurance for this kind of thing, but who pays those premiums? Your tax dollars.

To me, at least.. You don't blame the tech. You blame the people who blindly followed the tech.

There's ZERO excuse for what happened in the Angela Lipps case. She's the one that spent 3 months in jail in TN before being extradited to North Dakota based on facial recognition.

She will - and should - get a payday out of it. the sad part is, when the cops screw up like this.. It's us - the taxpayers - that wind up providing that payday.

Technically.. most cities have insurance for this kind of thing, but who pays those premiums? Your tax dollars.

Yes, tech is a tool and people have to use their judgment...

I always am let down when I see the update for Paula Pasciak's killer, Jerry Gervasoni. It feels like so much was done to find him, then the guy only serves 9 years in jail and gets released. there's a handful of wtf updates like that one where a guy rapes or murders someone and only serves a small amount of time.

To this day I still cannot figure out why, but the David O’Neil update scared the heck out of me way back when and it still does. Sometimes I watch the segment just to feel that jump scare again. Maybe it’s because the segment went straight into the update before it even seemed to be over. Or maybe it was Robert Stack’s voice wasting no time bluntly explaining what happened. Or maybe it was the very creepy pictures of O’Neil. I dunno. Maybe one of you can watch it and see what I mean. It was left off the Filmrise collection but you can catch it on the Archive. Scroll down to D for David O’Neil.

https://archive.org/details/unsolved-mysteries-lost-segment-archive-new/Unsolved+Mysteries+Special+1+(Full).mp4

(IA seems to be down at the moment…..)