View Full Version : Chicago and Bebe?


BrassyBebeBabe
07-29-2002, 09:59 PM
I was watching Entertainment Tonight this evening and they said that Catherine Zeta Jones is playing the lead in the movie version of Chicago. Does anyone, preferably Bethany, know why Bebe wasn't asked or didn't want the role? I would rather see Bebe in it of course. I was just wondering what happened.

Central Perk
07-30-2002, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by MissDianeChambers
I was watching Entertainment Tonight this evening and they said that Catherine Zeta Jones is playing the lead in the movie version of Chicago. Does anyone, preferably Bethany, know why Bebe wasn't asked or didn't want the role? I would rather see Bebe in it of course. I was just wondering what happened.

I dunno exactly why, maybe they wanted someone younger but I think Catherine Zeta Jones has experience in Broadway, I believe she was in the london show of 42nd St. I dunno though...

http://www.42ndstreetthemusical.com/images/gallery/catherine_zeta_jones_gallery.gif

Brian Damage
07-30-2002, 01:47 PM
I don't think it's anything personal with BeBe, but 9 out of 10 times, the actors that star on Broadway don't get asked to star in the movie. I guess the producers have their own idea of who should play certain roles.

Samsgirl xo
07-30-2002, 11:02 PM
i would think bebe has had more experience on broadway.. since shes done ALOT of projects there.. and your right 9 out of 10 times the broadway star doesnt get chosen for their movie role.. it has happened alot.. i would so much rather see bebe in chicago, i dont go for catherine.. something about her, not just because of this.. honest.. lol, but i think we can leave this area to little miss bethany.. bebe's lil stalker at the board.. :) (hey im teds..lol)

Central Perk
07-31-2002, 09:26 AM
I saw some footage from it on ET I think, it looked pretty good, I think Renée and Catherine will do a good job. They seem to have an all-star cast too, just look below.

Renée Zellweger .... Roxie Hart
Catherine Zeta-Jones .... Velma Kelly
Richard Gere .... Billy Flynn
Queen Latifah .... Matron 'Mama' Morton
John C. Reilly .... Amos Hart
Christine Baranski .... Mary Sunshine
Taye Diggs .... The Band Leader
Dominic West .... Fred Casely
Lucy Liu .... Go-To-Hell Kitty
Deirdre Goodwin .... June
Denise Faye (I) .... Annie
Mya (I) .... Mona
Susan Misner .... Liz
Colm Feore .... Martin Harrison
Sebastian Lacause .... Wilbur (June's Husband)
Marc Calamia .... Hunyank's Husband
Mary Ann Lamb .... Razzle-Dazzle Dancer
Tara Nicole .... Razzle-Dazzle Dancer
Patrick Salvagna .... Newsboy
Chita Rivera
Mike Haddad .... Courtroom Observer
Joseph Scoren .... Harry

mamamiasweetpeaches
07-31-2002, 12:19 PM
we saw this play on Broadway and we thought BeBe was gonna be in it. We got Sharon Lawrence(NYPD Blue)..but she was better than we had expected she'd be.
That casting looks pretty crappy to me(just my opinion)for the movie. Why do they have to mess everything up????Oh,Richard Gere..the great singer...I'm sure....same goes for Renee Zellweger.....leave the singing to the singers,folks. I better shut up before they cast Madonna in a movie version of a bROADWAY PLAY AGAIN. eeeps.

BrassyBebeBabe
07-31-2002, 12:24 PM
I agree with Christine. There was always something about Catherine Zeta that just yanked me the wrong way. I am just curious if they even offered Bebe the part. I know that Bebe loves doing Broadway more than movies or TV, but she just recently did Tadpole, so it would seem unlikely that she would turn it down because it was a movie. Oh well. :(

Samsgirl xo
08-01-2002, 12:06 AM
Ditto Alanna.. besides how old is bebe? they probably did it because of her age :(

BrassyBebeBabe
08-01-2002, 12:10 AM
I think she is 43, Christine. Personally, I think there was a great injustice done. LOL Who knows with the way Hollywood is these days. No wonder Bebe likes to stay in the lights of Broadway.

Dr. Lilith Sternin
08-01-2002, 11:03 AM
Okay, I've been gone far too long... can't believe I didn't catch this post earlier.

First... stalker?! Ah! Mes think not. I'm just... her... long lost daughter, right Alanna? LMAO!

Anyhoo... the only reason I haven't brought this discussion up on the board is because it completely disgusts me. Bebe refuses to talk on the subject, but she wasn't offered the role... ever. This is like a complete repeat of when they made the movie of Camelot... Julie Andrew's was brilliant as Guenevere, and wasn't even considered. It's sick, I tell you, sick!

First, it wasn't because of her age... Velma and Roxie are both supposed to be late 30s, early 40s. In fact, when Ruthie Henshall played Roxie, she almost didn't use one of the greatest lines because she was only 25 at the time: "I'm older than I ever intended to be." The ONE and ONLY reason Bebe wasn't asked was because they wanted big POPULAR names. Had this been done in the 80s, I'm sure she would have been offered the role right off the bat. They're not looking to attract the Broadway crowd (hence ME) with this movie, because they're not stupid... we theatre goers WILL see it no matter what, if only out of curiousity. They're trying to attract the young teens who are uneducated when it comes to theatre. The only way they can do that is pulling in younger stars who appeal to them. I can't tell you HOW many kids I mention Bebe's name to who respond with, "Who?" and I say, "Lilith... from Cheers." "OH! HER!"

Bebe's name alone wouldn't draw in the younger audience, and most of the older audience that would see the show has already been introduced to it. So, hence... Bebe had NO shot. Yes, she's very well known, and has done countless movies, so I think it's (omg, I wanna swear so bad right here) ridiculous. First of all, with all the popularity and recognition TADPOLE is recieving, now would have been the perfect time for her to do a movie of Chicago! I mean, look at all the reviews she's getting! Everyone who sees the movie says it belongs to Bebe. *sigh*

Also, Chicago isn't a POP musical like Rent or Aida. It's a REAL musical... you can't get away with sticking POP stars in it! I heard Britney Spears may be making a cameo... I'm so disgusted. The only person I can truly say I'm looking forward to seeing is Chita Rivera, who's only making a CAMEO. Renee as Roxie is the biggest joke. And as MUCH as I adore Christine Baranski.... MARY SUNSHINE is A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How the **** are they going to pull that off?! Lucy Liu as Go-To-Hell Kitty... MYA as MONA?! QUEEN LATIFAH as MAMMA!!!!!!!!!!!! OH-MY-GOD!!!!!!!! *Pulls her hair out of her head.*

This movie disgusts me.

Injustice is putting it far too mildly, Alanna. This movie is going to give musical theatre a bad name. It's going to end up on the list with Moulin Rouge.

Bebe should be happy she wasn't included in the cast... she would just be involved in a flop, and she's too good for that. She should just be upset that they're ruining such a great musical and are going to give it a bad name!!

Sara Micelli
08-01-2002, 11:35 AM
I'm getting the feeling that you feel very strongly about this.

Dr. Lilith Sternin
08-01-2002, 11:56 AM
LOL! What makes you say that? ;)

Dr. Lilith Sternin
08-01-2002, 12:03 PM
Oh, btw... Catherine isn't playing the "Lead." Velma isn't the lead, Roxie is. Well, I suppose they can both be considered the lead, whereas Bebe won the Tony for Best Actress, and not best Featured Actress. Technically, however, Roxie is the lead.

Sara Micelli
08-01-2002, 12:15 PM
I say that because you made your response into a large paragraph.
P.S.This is extremely off topic but do any of you actually know my name because I feel like an alien because all of you seem to know each other so well.Sorry I know it was off topic I just needed to get that off my chest.

BrassyBebeBabe
08-01-2002, 12:25 PM
Bethany, I have been wondering where Bebe's long lost daughter has disappeared to. I was dying for some insight.
I would have to agree with you on the popularity thing. Personally, and obviously, I would declare Bebe a greater actress than Catherine Zeta or Renee Zellweger. Like you said Bethany, so many people are uneducated about the truly good actors and so the studios do have to choose who the people are familiar with.
What really outraged me about your post is the statement that Bebe wasn't even offered the role. I was certain that she was offered it, and possibly turned it down. But, like you said Bethany, if "actresses" like Britney Spears are going to make cameo appearances, do we really want to see Bebe next to them.
While on the topic of Tadpole....I did hear the same thing, that Bebe was the heart of the movie. I am dying to see it, but no movie theaters within 100 miles of are playing it. I would have to travel to Philadelphia to see it. I don't understand that. I know it was kind of an underground film when it was first created, but with all of the hype that is behind it, you would think that more movie theaters would have picked it up.
...And the disgust continues. LOL

BrassyBebeBabe
08-01-2002, 12:27 PM
Sorry Popcorn, I just noticed your post. I, personally, do not know your name. What is it?

Sara Micelli
08-01-2002, 12:29 PM
My name is Sara.

Samsgirl xo
08-01-2002, 12:35 PM
hey sara! lol

bethany.. your right on the bullseye.. and seriously, my 6 year old neighbor knows who lilith is from cheers! im like bebe, shes like whos that.. im like frasiers girlfriend on cheers.. SHE GOES! -- "oh lilith sternin!" see, people know.. and giving the fact that cheers is one of the greatest shows in history, it would be a good choice to pick her. she has a better flim credits behind her, considering that none of her movies were fluff, they were all good that shes been in.. although cupid and cate was BLeHh.. lol, but NEWAYS, i wouldlve loved to see her in that movie.. i love her voice, she just has one of those voices where if she sings, you stop to listen

Sara Micelli
08-01-2002, 01:06 PM
I agree that Bebe has a great singing voice. I would much rather see her in the movie.

Dr. Lilith Sternin
08-01-2002, 01:39 PM
I saw Tadpole the day of its release in NYC. It was awesome... Bebe rocked! I'm going to get the movie as soon as it's released on DVD.

It's still an indie film, even though it's done so well at the box office. That's why it's only playing in selected theatres. I believe they'll be showing it in Boston, so i'll be able to see it again. If it's still playing in NY in Sept. (which I doubt), I can see it then, too.

Samsgirl xo
08-03-2002, 12:16 PM
wait a min.. didnt miramax just buy it?

Central Perk
08-03-2002, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Samsgirl xo
wait a min.. didnt miramax just buy it?

Yes, I believe Miramax has something to do with it..or so I've read.

Samsgirl xo
08-03-2002, 11:53 PM
so that means normal people that cant get to new york like me will see it?

Dr. Lilith Sternin
08-05-2002, 11:11 PM
No, only "normal people" who live in big cities! LMAO! It's only on limited release, and yes, Miramax owns it. You'll have to wait until it comes out on DVD like the rest of the hicks... excuse me, "normal people." LMAO! J/K, you know I love you! LOL Notin' wrone wit bein' a hick, ya now, ya now, ya now!

Beruche
08-11-2002, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Lilith Sternin
Okay, I've been gone far too long... can't believe I didn't catch this post earlier.

First... stalker?! Ah! Mes think not. I'm just... her... long lost daughter, right Alanna? LMAO!

Anyhoo... the only reason I haven't brought this discussion up on the board is because it completely disgusts me. Bebe refuses to talk on the subject, but she wasn't offered the role... ever. This is like a complete repeat of when they made the movie of Camelot... Julie Andrew's was brilliant as Guenevere, and wasn't even considered. It's sick, I tell you, sick!

First, it wasn't because of her age... Velma and Roxie are both supposed to be late 30s, early 40s. In fact, when Ruthie Henshall played Roxie, she almost didn't use one of the greatest lines because she was only 25 at the time: "I'm older than I ever intended to be." The ONE and ONLY reason Bebe wasn't asked was because they wanted big POPULAR names. Had this been done in the 80s, I'm sure she would have been offered the role right off the bat. They're not looking to attract the Broadway crowd (hence ME) with this movie, because they're not stupid... we theatre goers WILL see it no matter what, if only out of curiousity. They're trying to attract the young teens who are uneducated when it comes to theatre. The only way they can do that is pulling in younger stars who appeal to them. I can't tell you HOW many kids I mention Bebe's name to who respond with, "Who?" and I say, "Lilith... from Cheers." "OH! HER!"

Bebe's name alone wouldn't draw in the younger audience, and most of the older audience that would see the show has already been introduced to it. So, hence... Bebe had NO shot. Yes, she's very well known, and has done countless movies, so I think it's (omg, I wanna swear so bad right here) ridiculous. First of all, with all the popularity and recognition TADPOLE is recieving, now would have been the perfect time for her to do a movie of Chicago! I mean, look at all the reviews she's getting! Everyone who sees the movie says it belongs to Bebe. *sigh*

Also, Chicago isn't a POP musical like Rent or Aida. It's a REAL musical... you can't get away with sticking POP stars in it! I heard Britney Spears may be making a cameo... I'm so disgusted. The only person I can truly say I'm looking forward to seeing is Chita Rivera, who's only making a CAMEO. Renee as Roxie is the biggest joke. And as MUCH as I adore Christine Baranski.... MARY SUNSHINE is A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How the **** are they going to pull that off?! Lucy Liu as Go-To-Hell Kitty... MYA as MONA?! QUEEN LATIFAH as MAMMA!!!!!!!!!!!! OH-MY-GOD!!!!!!!! *Pulls her hair out of her head.*

This movie disgusts me.

Injustice is putting it far too mildly, Alanna. This movie is going to give musical theatre a bad name. It's going to end up on the list with Moulin Rouge.

Bebe should be happy she wasn't included in the cast... she would just be involved in a flop, and she's too good for that. She should just be upset that they're ruining such a great musical and are going to give it a bad name!!

I couldn't agree more with what you just said. The movie sounds like it going to be horrible and it makes me sick just thinking about it.

Samsgirl xo
08-11-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Lilith Sternin
No, only "normal people" who live in big cities! LMAO! It's only on limited release, and yes, Miramax owns it. You'll have to wait until it comes out on DVD like the rest of the hicks... excuse me, "normal people." LMAO! J/K, you know I love you! LOL Notin' wrone wit bein' a hick, ya now, ya now, ya now!

Hmm.. nothing like a being a NEW JERSEY Hick.. ::gets to ny in 5 minutes::

:rolleyes: :) :talk: J/k you know i luv ya bebe.. i mean lilith... i MEAN BETHANY. :wave: