TMC
12-06-2021, 01:19 AM
One of the biggest criticisms that I read about Engel is that his works were derivative of each other, especially by the time that Saved by the Bell: The New Class (https://web.archive.org/web/20190224073154/http://www.savedbythebellreviewed.com/category/all-the-new-class-episodes/the-new-class-recaps/) was gaining traction. To give you a better idea (https://shmaltzandmenudo.wordpress.com/2016/04/12/tidlatv-episode-28-recycled-plots/) of what I'm taking about:
If you have ever seen a Peter Engel show, you would know what a recycled plot is.
In the 1990’s, Mr. Engel was known for shows aimed at teenagers (https://web.archive.org/web/20080826075657/http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/SbtB/Home.html). Among them was the wildly successful and memorable Saved by the Bell (https://www.cinemablend.com/television/1602150/the-big-regret-saved-by-the-bell-ep-peter-engel-has-about-the-franchise), which made Mark-Paul Gosselaar (“Zack Morris”) and Mario Lopez (“A.C. Slater”) household names. Other shows Peter Engel produced included: California Dreams (https://web.archive.org/web/20181224202102/http://www.californiadreamsreviewed.com/), Hang Time (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/other-sports/news/hang-time-tv-show-episodes-wiki-saved-by-the-bell/1ojxt6m2x5bap1ts25blh4vcw9), City Guys (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031142617/http://www.jumptheshark.com/c/cityguys.htm), and USA High (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031135358/http://www.jumptheshark.com/u/usahigh.htm).
What these shows were known for was a formulaic approach to storytelling. Look to Saved by the Bell for the template. Usually the main cast would include an enterprising schemer and heartbreaker (Zack), a pretty, popular girl (“Kelly Kapowski”), a jock/tough guy (Slater), a rich, spoiled girl (“Lisa Turtle”), and a nerd (“Samuel ‘Screech’ Powers”). A Soap Box Sadie (“Jessica Spano”) was optional. If you read about these shows, you would notice that there was at least one schemer/heartbreaker in all the shows and he may not have been the “main” character, but he was still in the main cast.
These shows were also known for “borrowing” plots from one another. One egregious example was the plot of the dishonest, fading musician. A teen or pair of teens from the main cast would approach one of their favorite musicians with a song in hopes of getting a music deal. However, that star would steal the song and claim it as his own. But don’t worry, the moral is that the teen can still make more songs, unlike the aging, spent superstar. This was shown first on California Dreams (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031125247/http://www.jumptheshark.com/c/californiadreams.htm) and would be shared on City Guys and USA High (https://rockinatusahigh.tumblr.com/post/164224673402/usa-high-was-a-peter-engel-show-that-aired).
Some more specific examples of Engel's shows "borrowing" plots (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RecycledScript) from one another:
City Guys (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/CityGuys):
Although similar plots have been done on other teen sitcoms, the B-plot involving Dawn in "Bully, Bully" in which Chris and Jamal teach Dawn about the ins and outs of football to prepare for a date with a player on Manny High's football team, is similar to the B-plot in the Hang Time episode "Fighting Words," in which Mary Beth and Julie teach Kristy how to relate to the same interests as her date (ironically played by Chris' portrayer, Scott Whyte). Both episodes even have the latter character in the respective plots incorrectly guess the day most NFL games are held.
The plot involving Cassidy's caffeine pill addiction in "Over the Speed Limit" is basically recycled from the Saved by the Bell episode "Jessie's Song".
The story of L-Train's blues music idol stealing his songs is taken from a popular California Dreams episode.
Hang Time (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/HangTime):
Two episodes have secondary plots in which a character experiences bad luck from walking under a ladder more than once, "Game Day" (involving Michael Maxwell) and "No Smoking" (involving Kristy Connor).
Part of the plot (technically its plot device) of "Midnight Basketball" is lifted from the "Teenline" episode of Saved by the Bell.
USA High (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/USAHigh):
A character spending too much on their father's credit card.
Guy falling for a disabled love interest and learning An Aesop.
Boys helping babysit a baby and losing said infant.
Jackson meets his singing idol and shares some songs with him. To his shock, the guy takes Jackson's work and presents it as his own with Jackson declaring "keep them, I can write fresh songs while you can't." It's almost word-for-word a plot from California Dreams.
If you have ever seen a Peter Engel show, you would know what a recycled plot is.
In the 1990’s, Mr. Engel was known for shows aimed at teenagers (https://web.archive.org/web/20080826075657/http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/SbtB/Home.html). Among them was the wildly successful and memorable Saved by the Bell (https://www.cinemablend.com/television/1602150/the-big-regret-saved-by-the-bell-ep-peter-engel-has-about-the-franchise), which made Mark-Paul Gosselaar (“Zack Morris”) and Mario Lopez (“A.C. Slater”) household names. Other shows Peter Engel produced included: California Dreams (https://web.archive.org/web/20181224202102/http://www.californiadreamsreviewed.com/), Hang Time (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/other-sports/news/hang-time-tv-show-episodes-wiki-saved-by-the-bell/1ojxt6m2x5bap1ts25blh4vcw9), City Guys (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031142617/http://www.jumptheshark.com/c/cityguys.htm), and USA High (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031135358/http://www.jumptheshark.com/u/usahigh.htm).
What these shows were known for was a formulaic approach to storytelling. Look to Saved by the Bell for the template. Usually the main cast would include an enterprising schemer and heartbreaker (Zack), a pretty, popular girl (“Kelly Kapowski”), a jock/tough guy (Slater), a rich, spoiled girl (“Lisa Turtle”), and a nerd (“Samuel ‘Screech’ Powers”). A Soap Box Sadie (“Jessica Spano”) was optional. If you read about these shows, you would notice that there was at least one schemer/heartbreaker in all the shows and he may not have been the “main” character, but he was still in the main cast.
These shows were also known for “borrowing” plots from one another. One egregious example was the plot of the dishonest, fading musician. A teen or pair of teens from the main cast would approach one of their favorite musicians with a song in hopes of getting a music deal. However, that star would steal the song and claim it as his own. But don’t worry, the moral is that the teen can still make more songs, unlike the aging, spent superstar. This was shown first on California Dreams (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031125247/http://www.jumptheshark.com/c/californiadreams.htm) and would be shared on City Guys and USA High (https://rockinatusahigh.tumblr.com/post/164224673402/usa-high-was-a-peter-engel-show-that-aired).
Some more specific examples of Engel's shows "borrowing" plots (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RecycledScript) from one another:
City Guys (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/CityGuys):
Although similar plots have been done on other teen sitcoms, the B-plot involving Dawn in "Bully, Bully" in which Chris and Jamal teach Dawn about the ins and outs of football to prepare for a date with a player on Manny High's football team, is similar to the B-plot in the Hang Time episode "Fighting Words," in which Mary Beth and Julie teach Kristy how to relate to the same interests as her date (ironically played by Chris' portrayer, Scott Whyte). Both episodes even have the latter character in the respective plots incorrectly guess the day most NFL games are held.
The plot involving Cassidy's caffeine pill addiction in "Over the Speed Limit" is basically recycled from the Saved by the Bell episode "Jessie's Song".
The story of L-Train's blues music idol stealing his songs is taken from a popular California Dreams episode.
Hang Time (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/HangTime):
Two episodes have secondary plots in which a character experiences bad luck from walking under a ladder more than once, "Game Day" (involving Michael Maxwell) and "No Smoking" (involving Kristy Connor).
Part of the plot (technically its plot device) of "Midnight Basketball" is lifted from the "Teenline" episode of Saved by the Bell.
USA High (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/USAHigh):
A character spending too much on their father's credit card.
Guy falling for a disabled love interest and learning An Aesop.
Boys helping babysit a baby and losing said infant.
Jackson meets his singing idol and shares some songs with him. To his shock, the guy takes Jackson's work and presents it as his own with Jackson declaring "keep them, I can write fresh songs while you can't." It's almost word-for-word a plot from California Dreams.