Or are you able to ignore these things if the show is good enough? Let's get this out of the way since it's an obvious one, can you for example, still be able to watch The Cosby Show without feeling uncomfortable over what Bill Cosby has been accused of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosby_sexual_assault_cases#:~:text=American%20comedian%20Bill%20Cosby%20has,violations%20of%20his%20constitutional%20rights.) in the past few years?

Or how about being able to still watch 7th Heaven, despite knowing that the lead actor who played a minister and father is a child molester in real-life? And can you bring yourself to watch Smallville despite the knowledge that the actress playing Chloe Sullivan was in a sex cult and allegedly helped assault people?

I can go on and on, so I don't want to take up too much time. It basically goes back to the age old question, can you separate the art from the artist or the character from the actor?

I most definitely will still watch the Cosby Show. It’s one of my favorites.

It doesn't matter to me what they've done. If it's a show I like, I'm not going to quit watching it because an actor on the show done something wrong. That's like saying you're not going to buy something because of who promotes it. I know people like that too. It's crazy. I have the complete series of The Cosby Show and Roseanne. I only have one season of 7th Heaven but I will still buy more. People think about too much political crap when they watch a show. Just watch TV and enjoy it the way it was meant to be!

I can. I still love House of Cards even though the main character got in trouble.

It doesn't matter to me what they've done. If it's a show I like, I'm not going to quit watching it because an actor on the show done something wrong. That's like saying you're not going to buy something because of who promotes it. I know people like that too. It's crazy. I have the complete series of The Cosby Show and Roseanne. I only have one season of 7th Heaven but I will still buy more. People think about too much political crap when they watch a show. Just watch TV and enjoy it the way it was meant to be!

Drugging and raping women is "political crap" ?

I can understand that point for Roseanne but not Cosby. If people want to watch The Cosby Show, fine, but those who won't - it's not because of "political crap." Cosby didn't send out an ill-advised tweet. He did terrible, terrible things.

I loved The Cosby Show, but I have difficulty watching it now. I never watched Seventh Heaven, but would not watch now, due to the Collins scandal.

I still watch Roseanne, and adore the characters. Roseanne Barr stood up for the working poor at a time when TV was ignoring the plight of poor families. Her racist tweets in 2018 justifiably got her fired, but it didn't taint the show for me: the producers removed the element causing problems before the show was marred completely, IMO.

Drugging and raping women is "political crap" ?

I can understand that point for Roseanne but not Cosby. If people want to watch The Cosby Show, fine, but those who won't - it's not because of "political crap." Cosby didn't send out an ill-advised tweet. He did terrible, terrible things.

My thoughts exactly. The examples of The Cosby Show and 7th Heaven are most certainly NOT "political crap." It's such a disgusting cop out to even suggest such a thing.

I will always be a fan of 7th Heaven. Unlike so many, I can separate actors from the roles they play.

Sorry, I didn't mean that raping women and molesting children was political. Of course that's wrong. I just meant that some people get so uptight about things going on and then won't watch a certain program or buy certain things. That was the political part. But I'm still just not going to stop watching a show because of something an actor did. If I liked the show before, I'll still like it.

I've got no interest in the Cosby Show, 7th Heaven, or Roseanne to begin with. But it's kinda nice knowing that I can justify my abhorrence for them based upon sound moral principles.

I can and do separate the TV characters from the actors and actresses who portrayed them.

The Cosby Show

I have to say that I definately would have a problem with watching "Cosby Show" today.
I kind of liked it back in the day, but now I can only watch scenes with no Bill Cosby in them.
However, I think I could watch "Seventy Heaven" without thinking about Stephen Collins's crimes.
And I don't have the energy to hate Roseanne just because she made one stupid tweet.
There are much worse things going around in the world.

And I don't have the energy to hate Roseanne just because she made one stupid tweet.I thought Roseanne was a horrible person long before the revival and tweet.

I have to say that I definately would have a problem with watching "Cosby Show" today.
I kind of liked it back in the day, but now I can only watch scenes with no Bill Cosby in them.
However, I think I could watch "Seventy Heaven" without thinking about Stephen Collins's crimes.
And I don't have the energy to hate Roseanne just because she made one stupid tweet.
There are much worse things going around in the world.
Why can you omit Stephen Collin's child abuse charges which he admitted guilt in but can't overlook Bill Cosby's allegations which he has steadfastly denied?

Roseanne's tweet was beyond stupid it was racist in nature...racism has a dire effect on many people's lives on a daily basis from jokes to discrimination. Racism is, has been, the cause of many of the World's societal ills ie Colonialism. What are some of the things in the World much worse than racism?

What makes you not able to overlook one over the other two?

Why can you omit Stephen Collin's child abuse charges which he admitted guilt in but can't overlook Bill Cosby's allegations which he has steadfastly denied?

Bill Cosby admitted to drugging women for sex. He does not deny it at all.

Bill Cosby admitted to drugging women for sex. He does not deny it at all.
USAToday (click for full article) https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2021/05/27/bill-cosby-denied-parole-after-refusing-sex-offender-treatment/7475265002/

"Mr. Cosby has vehemently proclaimed his innocence and continues to deny all allegations made against him, as being false, without the sheer evidence of any proof," Wyatt said in a statement to USA TODAY on Thursday. "Mr. Cosby continues to remain hopeful that the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court will issue an opinion to vacate his conviction or warrant him a new trial."

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Why can you omit Stephen Collin's child abuse charges which he admitted guilt in but can't overlook Bill Cosby's allegations which he has steadfastly denied?
But he did admit guilt at one point.

Roseanne's tweet was beyond stupid it was racist in nature...racism has a dire effect on many people's lives on a daily basis from jokes to discrimination. Racism is, has been, the cause of many of the World's societal ills ie Colonialism. What are some of the things in the World much worse than racism?
Roseanne only did a controversial tweet after taking some medication.
Surely you agree that rape and murder and many other crimes are worse than that?

What makes you not able to overlook one over the other two?
I guess I just feel that Bill Cosby looks like a slimy bastard in all of his roles.
Stephen Collins at least was convincing as a (mostly) nice reverend.
And as for Roseanne, I don't really care.
But I don't bother myself with hating her either.

Drugging and raping women is "political crap" ?

I can understand that point for Roseanne but not Cosby. If people want to watch The Cosby Show, fine, but those who won't - it's not because of "political crap." Cosby didn't send out an ill-advised tweet. He did terrible, terrible things.

I agree with you %100.

Cosby Show was one of my favorite shows growing up. I haven’t watched it for years and don’t plan on it in the future.

But he did admit guilt at one point.

Roseanne only did a controversial tweet after taking some medication.
Surely you agree that rape and murder and many other crimes are worse than that?


I guess I just feel that Bill Cosby looks like a slimy bastard in all of his roles.
Stephen Collins at least was convincing as a (mostly) nice reverend.
And as for Roseanne, I don't really care.
But I don't bother myself with hating her either.
No, as I posted above Bill Cosby has maintained his innocence throughout the legal process-allegations. Bill Cosby even refuse to participate in a sexual offenders rehabilitation classes-therapy while in prison because he claimed that he is innocent and that refusal in large part prevented him from being paroled.

Roseanne has a history of making racist remarks. It was a RACIST tweet not a controversial tweet. Can you say racist? How do you know that she took medication before the tweet- because she said so? Who was convicted of rape or murder in this discussion? Why try to downplay her racism in that manner (comparing it to rape/murder) to begin with?

Medication makes people tweet out racist particulars? Sounds like the HS broadcaster who called a girls basketball team a bunch of nwords on a live broadcast hot mic then tried to blame it on his low sugar count (diabetes/lack of an insulin shot).

Since Stephen was more convincing to you in his acting role as a 'mostly nice' reverend he seemingly gets a pass from you for admitted child molestation?

That's your prerogative...to hate the brother man and not the other man or woman.

No, as I posted above Bill Cosby has maintained his innocence throughout the legal process-allegations. Bill Cosby even refuse to participate in a sexual offenders rehabilitation classes-therapy while in prison because he claimed that he is innocent and that refusal in large part prevented him from being paroled.I don't believe him. Claiming you are innocent does not make you innocent. And he knew all along his lawyers would get him released on a technicality because of an IDIOT prosecutor who had no business making that immunity deal, so it didn't matter he was denied parole. There are women out there who would make false claims. But when at least a dozen women (don't remember the exact number) have accused Bill Cosby of rape, no way are they all lying.

Major Crimes and Scandal are shows that could potentially be problematic to audiences who don't want to watch shows with crimes and scandals. ;)

I thought Roseanne was a horrible person long before the revival and tweet.

She really was. My friend worked on her show, and it was a bad experience for her. By the later era of the show, Roseanne was drugged out and could barely walk at times. She treated people badly, gave her writers numbers and refused to call them by their actual names, and alienated many people. The ninth season was ruined in part because Roseanne had her untrained children writing some of the episodes. She not only mistreated the people on her show, she tried to pull rank on the Seinfeld cast, was lewd and crude on multiple occasions, had multiple public outbursts, and more. She was a Karen decades before Karens were known.

Roseanne is the perfect example of someone who, when given power, eventually abuses it to the extreme. And yet, I still loved her show (at least the first seven seasons), which had some of the best writing of the 1980s and 1990s.

Roseanne proved she never learned anything from the dust-ups over her terrible behavior in the 1990s, and was quite clearly caught off guard by her sudden expulsion from her series in 2018. She still blames Michael Fishman (https://www.today.com/popculture/roseanne-barr-says-co-star-michael-fishman-threw-her-under-t130026) and Sara Gilbert for her tweets.

No, as I posted above Bill Cosby has maintained his innocence throughout the legal process-allegations. Bill Cosby even refuse to participate in a sexual offenders rehabilitation classes-therapy while in prison because he claimed that he is innocent and that refusal in large part prevented him from being paroled.

Roseanne has a history of making racist remarks. It was a RACIST tweet not a controversial tweet. Can you say racist? How do you know that she took medication before the tweet- because she said so? Who was convicted of rape or murder in this discussion? Why try to downplay her racism in that manner (comparing it to rape/murder) to begin with?

Medication makes people tweet out racist particulars? Sounds like the HS broadcaster who called a girls basketball team a bunch of nwords on a live broadcast hot mic then tried to blame it on his low sugar count (diabetes/lack of an insulin shot).

Since Stephen was more convincing to you in his acting role as a 'mostly nice' reverend he seemingly gets a pass from you for admitted child molestation?

That's your prerogative...to hate the brother man and not the other man or woman.
Since you seem to take this very personally, I won't argue with you anymore.
So we can only agree to disagree about both Cosby and Roseanne.
And I never said that what Stephen Collins did wasn't terrible.
But I can look at him playing a role and enjoy the show despite his crimes.
That is the difference.