For example, I've heard the arguments elsewhere (https://www.tvguide.com/news/game-of-thrones-final-season-review-how-i-met-your-mother/) that How I Met Your Mother and Game of Thrones, both (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/cliqod/game_of_thrones_ending_vs_how_i_met_your_mother/) barely (https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-reason-fans-hate-the-last-season-of-game-of-thrones/) have any fans (https://www.today.com/popculture/how-i-met-your-mother-slaps-its-fans-series-finale-2D79463458) anymore due in no small part to their (https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-that-people-dont-like-the-How-I-Met-Your-Mother-series-finale-Last-Forever) respective terrible (https://www.filmbecomesher.com/blog/if-you-hate-how-i-met-your-mothers-ending-you-missed-the-point#:~:text=%EF%BB%BFThe%20latter%20may%20have,the%20turn%20of%20the%20century.&text=The%20final%20episode%2C%20Last%20Forever,away%20from%20an%20unspecified%20illness.) endings (https://collider.com/game-of-thrones-finale-why-its-bad-explained/).

What about Lost? I remember that show was very popular when it was on in the mid-late 2000s but I don’t ever hear anything about it now

There definitely are still fans of Game of Thrones, despite the horrible last season. They just say things like, "I'm a huge fan of the show, except that horrible last season."

Facts of Life. You never hear anything about that show anymore.

Facts of Life. You never hear anything about that show anymore.

Really?

I thought the four actors that played the four girls (after season 1) to this date still get feedback of fondness related to the show from fans.

Also, it's on Antenna TV, Roku Channel, and Logo/Pluto TV, which to me indicates some good staying power for it to be in their programming or library. I'd say that's decent coverage for an old show.

I'd say Lost more than Game of Thrones.

The Game of Thrones ending was weak, but the characters of the show are memorable. For example, Cersei and Joffrey Lannister.

It's not a show like Veep where I can watch again anytime I resubscribe to HBO. It might not be a show that I'd recommend either, given the craze is over, but still likely made in reference by fans.

Seinfeld is an example that has had strong staying power in culture references largely because of fans still remember scenes and particular characters of the show.

Really?

I thought the four actors that played the four girls (after season 1) to this date still get feedback of fondness related to the show from fans.

Also, it's on Antenna TV, Roku Channel, and Logo/Pluto TV, which to me indicates some good staying power for it to be in their programming or library. I'd say that's decent coverage for an old show.

Sure would be nice if Pluto would show more than just the first two seasons.

Really?

I thought the four actors that played the four girls (after season 1) to this date still get feedback of fondness related to the show from fans.

Also, it's on Antenna TV, Roku Channel, and Logo/Pluto TV, which to me indicates some good staying power for it to be in their programming or library. I'd say that's decent coverage for an old show.

It's also the most active TV show board here on SO. It was ranked number 3 on Antenna TV's poll of favorite shows on the network. The Facts of Life still has a strong fan base.

I would say Glee is a show where fans have abandon it. The show was huge when it first started and by the end hardly anyone was watching. I don't even think it had a run in syndication.

Really?

I thought the four actors that played the four girls (after season 1) to this date still get feedback of fondness related to the show from fans.

Also, it's on Antenna TV, Roku Channel, and Logo/Pluto TV, which to me indicates some good staying power for it to be in their programming or library. I'd say that's decent coverage for an old show.

If you read the boards regularly here, just a little joke.

There definitely are still fans of Game of Thrones, despite the horrible last season. They just say things like, "I'm a huge fan of the show, except that horrible last season."

Yeah, with the 80,000 "prequels" and "will they be good? we'll see-quels" coming up, it's hard to believe the fanbase has died out

X-Files! That show was huge in the 90's and everyone was a fan. I think Disney might own the rights to the show after the Fox merger?

Yeah, with the 80,000 "prequels" and "will they be good? we'll see-quels" coming up, it's hard to believe the fanbase has died out

I definitely believe the fanbase is still there. "We'll see" if any of the sequels or prequels even get off the ground. George needs to finish writing so fans can get a proper ending. The ending we did get felt like a Mad Libs ending: like the final winner was drawn out of a hat rather than relying on the detailed foreshadowing from the previous seven seasons. I've never seen a TV show fall apart so quickly.

If you read the boards regularly here, just a little joke.

I got the joke, and I thought it was VERY cute!

I'd say Lost more than Game of Thrones.

The Game of Thrones ending was weak, but the characters of the show are memorable. For example, Cersei and Joffrey Lannister.


I've got no problem with the characters of GOT. The Lannisters are so bad they are great. The Starks are so great they are great. Dany was so pure and powerful she was great. The producers simply failed to execute a decent ending. Like seeing the most amazing gymnastics performance, and at the end the gymnast stumbles, falls over, and crashes into the mat, busting his/her lip open and breaking a leg. Painful to watch. Cringe inducing.

Really?

I thought the four actors that played the four girls (after season 1) to this date still get feedback of fondness related to the show from fans.


The Core Four and the Lost Girls are all active on various social media platforms of their respective choices, and have followings for sure.

I got the joke, and I thought it was VERY cute!

Thanks for bailing me out. I owe you one :wave:

Facts of Life. You never hear anything about that show anymore.

Really? Facts Of Life still shows in reruns, the forum is pretty active and it seems to have a pretty big fanbase.

The Facts Of Life is definitely one of my all-time favorite shows.

I would say Glee is a show where fans have abandon it. The show was huge when it first started and by the end hardly anyone was watching. I don't even think it had a run in syndication.

I remember that. I didn't watch, but I had friends who were big fans. They weren't even watching at the end.

I remember Angel having a very vocal fan base back in the day. I remember them sending, like, a million candy bars to TV executives. I think that fan base may be elsewhere now.

Really? Facts Of Life still shows in reruns, the forum is pretty active and it seems to have a pretty big fanbase.

The Facts Of Life is definitely one of my all-time favorite shows.

One more time, I only wrote that because it IS the most popular show here.

I surrender

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:lol:

Facts of Life. You never hear anything about that show anymore.

I was always under the impression that FOL was a gay staple, up there with Golden Girls.

I would say Glee is a show where fans have abandon it. The show was huge when it first started and by the end hardly anyone was watching. I don't even think it had a run in syndication.

I watched it during its early seasons, but stopped after I lost interest. My sister kept up with it and told me that the problem was them using whatever songs were popular of the time, like Gangnam Style, whether or not it made sense for the plot.

Desperate Housewives? Ally McBeal?

X-Files! That show was huge in the 90's and everyone was a fan. I think Disney might own the rights to the show after the Fox merger?

Yes! It had a huge cult following back in the day. You'd think there'd be X Files conventions, comic books, animated series, extended universe type stuff, etc. but the show rarely registers a blip. I don't even think the reboot made any real waves. It just sort of...happened.

Ditto, House. That was another show with a cult following that seemed to vanish overnight as soon as the series ended.

A third show that seems to have a dwindled fanbase is ER. This was the most watched, talked about show of the 90s and today, I hear no one talk about it or even the characters.

I remember Angel having a very vocal fan base back in the day. I remember them sending, like, a million candy bars to TV executives. I think that fan base may be elsewhere now.

That sounds like something the Trekkies would do. It's so bizarre :lol:

I watched it during its early seasons, but stopped after I lost interest. My sister kept up with it and told me that the problem was them using whatever songs were popular of the time, like Gangnam Style, whether or not it made sense for the plot.

I stopped after Corey's death. The show was already on its last leg and his passing just finished it off. I also wasn't a fan of the new class for Glee that was introduced in season 4.


Desperate Housewives?

It's a shame this show doesn't have the fan base like it did during its run. It's very good. It's just as funny as The Facts of Life, Golden Girls, or Designing Women. They did a great job of having both comedy and drama. I still watch it to this day.

Desperate Housewives? Ally McBeal?

Reasons that I've heard regarding why Desperate Housewives (https://jacksonupperco.com/2013/08/07/editorial-what-went-wrong-on-wisteria-lane/) could fit in this criteria:

It really wasn't very good to begin with (https://screenrant.com/desperate-housewives-aged-timeless/), as soap operatic camp or as mystery thriller.

While the the first season (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/desperate-housewives-season-1-anniversary_n_5793322) was excellent but it went immediately downhill when the cast's egos came out and Marc Cherry showed he didn't have anything else up his sleeve. Even bringing respected actress Alfre Woodard in couldn't stop the show from suffering from the sophomore slump.

At the time (mid 2000s--pre-Netflix/Hulu/multitude of good shows on the interwebs), the dark humor of the first season was refreshing, then it quickly jumped the shar (https://www.reddit.com/r/DesperateHousewives/comments/gmpdvm/point_at_which_the_show_jumped_the_shark/)k as the writers/producers clearly had no long term goals for it. It devolved into a season-long "mystery" that was something out of the worst of the Nancy Drew books. After Season 4, the central mysteries ran out of steam.

The first season as previously mentioned, was good (https://www.benweatherill.com/blog/2020/10/2/5-things-every-writer-can-learn-from-the-desperate-housewives-pilot), but they should have done mini-series on the subsequent ones. Those kind of shows can only go for a few seasons before they decline because to keep it entertaining the storylines (https://www.eonline.com/news/1079642/the-15-craziest-stories-from-the-desperate-housewives-set) start to become unrealistic. That much drama (https://www.spoilertv.com/2015/03/throwback-thursday-desperate-housewives.html) doesn't happen unless the characters are doctors or investigators who come across gripping situations every day.

Dramas rarely have a second life the way comedies do anyway. With comedies you can re-watch any random episode and it's still funny, where watching a random episode of a drama feels out of place. Each episode of a drama like Desperate Housewives doesn’t stand independently on its own. You have to watch them all in order start to finish. The exception are shows like the Law and Order franchise where the back story of the cops is secondary to the crime they are trying to solve.

It was the end of the era of network TV. Cable TV/streaming took off right after that, and of course they could get away with much more. So what seemed edgy at the time (https://www.reddit.com/r/DesperateHousewives/comments/e6ky6z/this_show_couldnt_have_been_written_now/) now seems very tame. Nowadays a show like Desperate Housewives wouldn't even be shopped around to a network; it'd go straight to cable.