Per DNA Doe Project. No names at this time, they will be providing updates.

This was always a pet case for me. Seemed so sad, so solvable. Will be interesting to learn the details.

https://twitter.com/dnadoeproject/status/1351639757659508737?s=21

Very strange that this wasn't solved long ago.

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Sumter_County_Does

Any word on whether this was solved with a CODIS database? Perhaps some other unidentified victims could be identified the same way.

Didn't they think the two people murdered were Canadian or otherwise foreign tourists?

Great news. Looking forward to finding out more details soon.

Didn't they think the two people murdered were Canadian or otherwise foreign tourists?

Both were American. He was from Pennsylvania, she was from Wisconsin.

They found the murder weapon in 1977. I've always been amazed that this has never been solved.

https://www.facebook.com/UnidentifiedAndMissingPeople/photos/a.1970471479898392/2896866450592219/

Announcement �� - IDENTIFIED - ✨ After 45 years details will be revealed. Press conference scheduled for Thursday, January 21 at 2 pm Eastern time ✨ - The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina on August 9, 1976.

The two victims in this case have been identified as James Freund of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and Pamela Buckley of Colorado Springs, Colorado. These are their most recent places of residence prior to them being found in Sumter County.

Link to the press conference.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=781108599168142&ref=watch_permalink

https://mobile.twitter.com/DnaDoeProject/status/1352358367629553665

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsSKtqRXcAcQ2k0?format=jpg

Did no one miss these people or was anyone looking for them? Did they run off together and both families disowned them?

Did no one miss these people or was anyone looking for them? Did they run off together and both families disowned them?

It doesn’t appear that anyone was looking for the male. His name was James Paul Freund and he had a ring with the initials JPF engraved on it. If you knew him, but wasn’t totally sure about the drawing, how could the initials on the ring not convince you that it could be him?

Holy smokes...i live in Lancaster Pa. And we just had the Christy Mirack case solved recently as well.

I knew a girl in school with the last name Freund...wonder if they were related.

Wow, glad to see these two finally IDed. Sadly it looks like one of those situations where knowing who they are won't shed much, if any, light on why they were where they were or who did this to them.

Also Pamela, it turns out, was from Colorado by way of Minnesota, not Wisconsin.

Looks like her family reported he missing. It was only entered into NAMUS in the last year or so.

He may not have had much family. His father had died, and I read he was an only child. He had filed for divorce before he disappeared, he called someone in Lancaster on December 25 1975.

It wasn’t unheard of back then for people to just take off. Many families had someone who had taken off to travel, maybe with vague plans to head to California or something. I think they were likely both people who got married to young and weren’t ready for square life.

The whole "jock, son of a Canadian doctor" thing turned out to be wrong, huh? I we have learned anything from UM, it's that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.

The whole "jock, son of a Canadian doctor" thing turned out to be wrong, huh? I we have learned anything from UM, it's that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.

Bulls-eye. The eyewitness who gave that statement was probably speaking to a man who resembled the then-Jock Doe but turned out to be wrong.

I was shocked when the Grateful Dead John Doe actually turned out to be named Jason, figured that was BS as well.

I'll have to watch the press conference tomorrow. I remember a documentary years ago, from 1981. A PI was interviewed and said "Some cop told me, 'Listen, we find these bodies out there by the dozens. Hitchhikers. People who pick them up and people who get rides. Nobody cares...'" Guess it must have been a 70's thing. Sad.

Wow. I can't believe this got solved. :eek2:


But even less believable is that there aren't more people posting about it on here. :doh:

I’m surprised more aren’t posting here. Its a hot topic at Websleuths.

One of the victims, I think the female, was reported missing about nine months before the murder

Trace Evidence Podcast on YouTube has a really good episode about them.

If this is all true, in a sad kinda way this brings some happiness. I have been intrigued by this case for years, and always wondered who they were and what happened to them..

I believe the killer in theory had also died years ago, so it wasn't even about getting justice at this point.

Trace Evidence Podcast on YouTube has a really good episode about them.


Can you post the link? I can't find it...

This might be over anylitical, but some of the crime scene photos of James ("Jock") clearly seem to show a bullet hole in his neck.

However, the press info says neither were shot in their neck, despite previous claims.

Can anybody clarify this?

Thanks

I was shocked when the Grateful Dead John Doe actually turned out to be named Jason, figured that was BS as well.

Well you do remember that little piece of paper with the mysterious phone numbers, the name ' to Jason' was written on there. Not sure why that would eventually turn out to be a shock.

If it had said Ron or George or something, yes that would be different. :)