Jenny O'Hara liked this picture of Mrs. Garrett and Miss Mahoney on Twitter.

We have seen the picture before, but it cool that a cast member liked it.
https://twitter.com/factsoflife1979/status/1295134116518731776/photo/1

https://twitter.com/jennyoharaulle1/status/1295930730472599553?s=21 Hahahaha

Hahahaha

She laughed at the hair!! :rofl: That is so awesome!!

I love her even more now! :D

Miss Mahoney forever! patriot:

Ahahahahahaha!

:brent

Even she thought the hair was excessive!

Ahahahahahaha!

:brent

Even she thought the hair was excessive!

Yep! Good old Miss Mahoney!

Miss Mahoney even follows some of her former students on Twitter. Julie Pie, Lisa, Kim Fields. Even Geri Jewell, who she never acted with on Facts of Life. But one of the students she doesn't follow is Le Mol.

Miss Mahoney even follows some of her former students on Twitter. Julie Pie, Lisa, Kim Fields. Even Geri Jewell, who she never acted with on Facts of Life.

Now that is cool!

SO cool!! :D

Sure is! I wonder if they kept in touch.

I just came across this Tweet from Miss Mahoney as to why she left Eastland. This is from August 2019 and is more detailed than what she said on the Reelz documentary last spring. All I can say is "Wow".
https://twitter.com/willmckinley/status/1165678708864294917

The other night, I caught Jenny on an old episode of “Family” that was sitting on my DVR. It was from 1979, so close to the time she was on FOL. She had the same awful hairdo, and was playing a similar character (a teacher). The storyline was that Annie was being bullied in school. Jenny’s character was probably less savvy/sensitive than Mahoney.

It’s interesting that Jenny referred to her and John Lawlor as “other adult leads.” I don’t consider her a lead at all, but supporting.

It’s interesting that Jenny referred to her and John Lawlor as “other adult leads.” I don’t consider her a lead at all, but supporting.

Well she was a lead even with little screen time, as Charlotte, John, and Jenny were the three adult leads in the main credits.

It's kinda like in "Mary Poppins" how the leads are Mary, Bert, Mr. Banks, and Mrs. Banks. Mrs. Banks is more of a supporting player compared to how much screen time the other three have, but she's still one of the four adult leads.

"VOTES FOR WOMEN!!"

I don’t view her as a lead just because she was an adult. She was a supporting character. Charlotte was the sole lead on the show. On Cheers, there were two leads: Ted Danson and Shelley Long. Friends is one of those shows where all six characters were leads because they traded off the spotlight. I just wonder if she viewed her character as more important than it was.

I don’t view her as a lead just because she was an adult. She was a supporting character. Charlotte was the sole lead on the show. On Cheers, there were two leads: Ted Danson and Shelley Long. Friends is one of those shows where all six characters were leads because they traded off the spotlight. I just wonder if she viewed her character as more important than it was.

Well, if you're going by award industry standards, she was one of the main characters then if you want to separate it that way, as anyone in opening credits is a main character.

And I didn't say because she was an adult, I just said that they were the three adult leads. :) The seven girls were the "child leads".

I don’t view her as a lead just because she was an adult. She was a supporting character. Charlotte was the sole lead on the show. On Cheers, there were two leads: Ted Danson and Shelley Long. Friends is one of those shows where all six characters were leads because they traded off the spotlight. I just wonder if she viewed her character as more important than it was.

If you saw the documentary, it sounded like we had a battle of the Queen Bees. Jenny wanted more a roll and to be seen as the mentor for the girls. That was moving into Charlotte's territory. It was Charlotte's show. Not surprised that Charlotte reacted as her role being threatened.

If you saw the documentary, it sounded like we had a battle of the Queen Bees. Jenny wanted more a roll and to be seen as the mentor for the girls. That was moving into Charlotte's territory. It was Charlotte's show. Not surprised that Charlotte reacted as her role being threatened.

But she did say that any nurturing of the girls was Charlotte's role, and should be; she didn't want to intrude on that.

She was right to leave the role. I think her character was unnecessary from the beginning.

The tweet above her "Yes she was" comment is unavailable to view. Anyone get a chance to see what it said?

The tweet above her "Yes she was" comment is unavailable to view. Anyone get a chance to see what it said?

Can you refer which Tweet you were talking about? Was it one of mine?

She was right to leave the role. I think her character was unnecessary from the beginning.

Clearly, the producers agreed with you, as they hired no replacement for her.

But having no female staff member to confide with Mrs. Garrett meant that Mrs. Garrett would now be confiding in her girls, sometimes inappropriately.

In "Overachieving", taped just after Miss Mahoney's departure, Mrs. Garrett confides in Blair and Sue Ann that Mr. Ramsey doesn't want her to have contact with Tootie. But Mrs. Garrett never should have said this to Eastland students. She should have confided this to Miss Mahoney, and then Blair and Sue Ann could have overheard.

By Mrs. Garrett talking directly to the girls about conflict between herself and a parent, it weakens Mrs. Garrett's professionalism. These are the types of scenes that are weakened by the loss of an Eastland staff member.

But having no female staff member to confide with Mrs. Garrett meant that Mrs. Garrett would now be confiding in her girls, sometimes inappropriately.

In "Overachieving", taped just after Miss Mahoney's departure, Mrs. Garrett confides in Blair and Sue Ann that Mr. Ramsey doesn't want her to have contact with Tootie. But Mrs. Garrett never should have said this to Eastland students. She should have confided this to Miss Mahoney, and then Blair and Sue Ann could have overheard.

By Mrs. Garrett talking directly to the girls about conflict between herself and a parent, it weakens Mrs. Garrett's professionalism.

I see it as fitting in a way, because Mrs. Garrett was kinda thrust into this role. She didn't pursue being on staff as a housemother at a girls' private school, it just fell into her lap (kinda like Leon :lol:). I know what you mean though.

I see it as fitting in a way, because Mrs. Garrett was kinda thrust into this role. She didn't pursue being on staff as a housemother at a girls' private school, it just fell into her lap (kinda like Leon :lol:). I know what you mean though.

She definitely was thrust into this position, so I know what you mean. But without other staff, it happened quite often. That's why I treasure those rare moments when Mrs. Garrett sits down for coffee with Gail, or meets with Professor Gideon for tea (okay, that didn't happen on-screen, but it could have occurred :lol:).

It would have been great to have a shoulder for Mrs. Garrett on the show, someone to talk about her problems, in episodes like Overachieving, Free Spirit, Give and Take, Under Pressure. An actor/actress with a recurring role, ten or twelve (:lol:) episodes in a season. Howard the Cook had a great potentional and could have filled the role but they did get rid of him after a couple of episodes.

Both Mr. Bradley and Miss Mahoney could have filled the role if they were kept on the show. There was no reason to let them appear in every episode, a recurring status would have been perfect for them. Charlotte was the star, the only adult lead on the show (that was a good thing since Mrs. Rae had talent). However, the new writers made a mistake, because she had to confide on the girls and not on a friend/staff member. Even Charlotte complained about this in her book. The original idea was good but the final results could have been better. The same thing happened on DS, Rae and Conrad Bain were the two adult leads, after FOL came back as a full series and Rae left, Bain was the only adult lead until Dixie Carter was hired.

Anyway, I wish they had kept Bradley or Mahoney since they already had an established relantionship with Mrs. Garrett.

It would have been great to have a shoulder for Mrs. Garrett on the show, someone to talk about her problems, in episodes like Overachieving, Free Spirit, Give and Take, Under Pressure.

And "Breaking Point". Mrs. Garrett had to answer all the girls' questions by herself. But she was the school dietician.


An actor/actress with a recurring role, ten or twelve (:lol:)

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Cute!


episodes in a season. Howard the Cook had a great potentional and could have filled the role but they did get rid of him after a couple of episodes.

It seems odd that Howard didn't appear in episodes where he really should have come in handy. For example, "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"?


Both Mr. Bradley and Miss Mahoney could have filled the role if they were kept on the show. There was no reason to let them appear in every episode, a recurring status would have been perfect for them.

That would have worked for me. Then we wouldn't had these weird issues where Mrs. Garrett feels like the only staff member at the school. Then Miss Mahoney could have coordinated the Graduation ceremony, instead of the wildly inappropriate Tootie. Then Mr. Bradley could have disciplined the girls in "The New Girl", and talked to Mrs. Garrett about her "drinking problem" in "Gossip".


Charlotte was the star, the only adult lead on the show (that was a good thing since Mrs. Rae had talent). However, the new writers made a mistake, because she had to confide on the girls and not on a friend/staff member. Even Charlotte complained about this in her book.

What did she say, ITA?

The original idea was good but the final results could have been better. The same thing happened on DS, Rae and Conrad Bain were the two adult leads, after FOL came back as a full series and Rae left, Bain was the only adult lead until Dixie Carter was hired.

That's a good point: DS ended up with a similar problem. And the solution led to... SAM! :eek:

And "Breaking Point". Mrs. Garrett had to answer all the girls' questions by herself. But she was the school dietician.



:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Cute!



It seems odd that Howard didn't appear in episodes where he really should have come in handy. For example, "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"?



That would have worked for me. Then we wouldn't had these weird issues where Mrs. Garrett feels like the only staff member at the school. Then Miss Mahoney could have coordinated the Graduation ceremony, instead of the wildly inappropriate Tootie. Then Mr. Bradley could have disciplined the girls in "The New Girl", and talked to Mrs. Garrett about her "drinking problem" in "Gossip".



What did she say, ITA?



That's a good point: DS ended up with a similar problem. And the solution led to... SAM! :eek:


We'll never know if Howard left or the producers fired him.

I have to check the book for her exact words. She said something like "Teenagers already have their own problems".

They did have the headmaster in a recurring role starting in season 3 - it just wasn’t Bradley. And I think Parker was an improvement over the buffoonish, sort-of-creepy Bradley.

But I do agree that a recurring colleague or two for Edna would have been nice. Like Jo’s friend Gail, except that it would have been someone who wasn’t about to keel over. Definitely someone not like that douchey journalism teacher who publicly bullied Jo.

What did she say, ITA?

It's nearly 2021! When are you gonna get her book already?? :lol:

;)

They did have the headmaster in a recurring role starting in season 3 - it just wasn’t Bradley. And I think Parker was an improvement over the buffoonish, sort-of-creepy Bradley.

I don't think it's fair when people say he was "creepy".

And Mr. Parker did serve the headmaster role, but I wish they had kept Bradley for continuity. And while he was a jerk at times, I would have hated to see the show vilify him the way they did Parker in some scripts, so in that respect I'm glad it wasn't Bradley since we didn't have to see him mistreat Mrs. Garrett like that.

They did have the headmaster in a recurring role starting in season 3 - it just wasn’t Bradley. And I think Parker was an improvement over the buffoonish, sort-of-creepy Bradley.

Certainly Mr. Parker was more professional. In the Reelz documentary, John Lawler says Mr. Bradley was always a day late and a dollar short. He was used to running a boys' school, and the precepts he used on boys just weren't going to work on girls.

In many ways, Bradley was a stronger foil for Mrs. Garrett than Mr. Parker. He had these male ideas for management and education, while Mrs. Garrett had the correct, softer, gentler approach: you can't just go upstairs and order a girl to eat. Time and time again, we see Mrs. Garrett and Mr. Bradley clash, and that was a nice way of establishing that Mrs. Garrett is Always Right.

In fact, I'm not sure Mr. Bradley ever got to be "right" on a school issue. Sure, he shows up at the end of Molly's Holiday, but he's again late and dollar-less: the problem has already been resolved, and he missed his flight for no reason.

You couldn't really do that with Mr. Parker: he was so professional and smooth that Mrs. Garrett rarely clashed with him. We see some clashing in "Read No Evil", and of course Edna's final confrontation when Mr. Parker acts like a complete ass, but until then, Mr. Parker was never as wrongheaded as Mr. Bradley.


But I do agree that a recurring colleague or two for Edna would have been nice. Like Jo’s friend Gail, except that it would have been someone who wasn’t about to keel over.

If they had made Gail recurring before "Teacher's Pet", THAT would have been awesome on so many levels. Have Gail try to help Jo get a scholarship in "Ain't Miss Beholden", establishing a relationship at the beginning of Season 4. Then have her have coffee with Mrs. Garrett, mentioning there's a job down at the garage in "A Woman's Place". Then it doesn't feel so awkward when we're told Jo and Gail have been friends all year, when we never saw that. And then it's much more powerful for the audience when Gail dies: the audience has seen Gail mentoring Jo; viewers know what Gail meant to Jo.

By keeping the teachers to one-offs, it weakens Eastland.

It's nearly 2021! When are you gonna get her book already?? :lol:

;)

:lol:

In February 2021.

(Also, you are nine posts away from 10,000 posts!)

You couldn't really do that with Mr. Parker: he was so professional and smooth that Mrs. Garrett rarely clashed with him. We see some clashing in "Read No Evil", and of course Edna's final confrontation when Mr. Parker acts like a complete ass, but until then, Mr. Parker was never as wrongheaded as Mr. Bradley.

Don't forget the bun warmer argument (which he was an *ss about), and the "Under Pressure". There are many times I am unhappy with him in his appearances.


(Also, you are nine posts away from 10,000 posts!)

I am? Holy cow! :eek:

Wow, we'll see what happens first: I hit 10,000 posts or you get Charlotte's book! :lol:

Don't forget the bun warmer argument (which he was an *ss about), and the "Under Pressure". There are many times I am unhappy with him in his appearances.

GREAT point, and I'd forgotten about the bun warmer.

It would have made her job so much easier. A bun warmer couldn't have broken Eastland's budgets. They had enough money to build an Assembly building and a new library.


I am? Holy cow! :eek:

Okay, Sue Ann! ;)


Wow, we'll see what happens first: I hit 10,000 posts or you get Charlotte's book! :lol:

You will hit 10,000 posts first. I have to submit a Masters thesis before I can do any book reading, so have sworn off any extracurricular reading until February 2021. :)

GREAT point, and I'd forgotten about the bun warmer.

It would have made her job so much easier. A bun warmer couldn't have broken Eastland's budgets. They had enough money to build an Assembly building and a new library.

Haha! That must have been one hell of a deluxe bun warmer!! :rofl:

(although I guess to be fair re: the library, Blair's racist granddaddy did put up the dough for that, or at least part of it)


Okay, Sue Ann! ;)

Haha! I don't even know when she says that! :lol:


You will hit 10,000 posts first. I have to submit a Masters thesis before I can do any book reading, so have sworn off any extracurricular reading until February 2021. :)

Looking at the number again, I do think you're right. :lol:

Haha! That must have been one hell of a deluxe bun warmer!! :rofl:

Ahahahahaha! :lol::lol::lol::lol:


(although I guess to be fair re: the library, Blair's racist granddaddy did put up the dough for that, or at least part of it)

Maybe Mr. Parker should have hit up Blair's racist granddaddy for a new bun warmer! :lol:


Haha! I don't even know when she says that! :lol:

She doesn't, but I'm sure if she had, Blair could work it into a slam about the Midwest! ;)


Looking at the number again, I do think you're right. :lol:

Ooh, you are so close! This calls for a celebration! *begins prepping*

She's great. Very funny as Doug's mom on King Of Queens.

She's great. Very funny as Doug's mom on King Of Queens.

Yes she is!

Edna did not need a bun warmer! She should have just used the oven instead of acting all entitled to a bun warmer.

Maybe Mr. Parker should have hit up Blair's racist granddaddy for a new bun warmer! :lol:

Hahaha, it sounds like it! :lol:


Ooh, you are so close! This calls for a celebration! *begins prepping*

Yes, it does! :clap:


Edna did not need a bun warmer! She should have just used the oven instead of acting all entitled to a bun warmer.

:lol:

Edna did not need a bun warmer! She should have just used the oven instead of acting all entitled to a bun warmer.

And just why are you taking the headmaster's side, all of a sudden? :lol:

Edna needed that bun warmer. Without it, the girls would have had cold bread. COLD BREAD!

You’re right, Retro. We wouldn’t want the little darlings to have to eat cold bread. Besides, Mr. Parker should have been able to afford a bun warmer, given all he was saving with the slave labor in the kitchen.

Certainly Mr. Parker was more professional. In the Reelz documentary, John Lawler says Mr. Bradley was always a day late and a dollar short. He was used to running a boys' school, and the precepts he used on boys just weren't going to work on girls.

In many ways, Bradley was a stronger foil for Mrs. Garrett than Mr. Parker. He had these male ideas for management and education, while Mrs. Garrett had the correct, softer, gentler approach: you can't just go upstairs and order a girl to eat. Time and time again, we see Mrs. Garrett and Mr. Bradley clash, and that was a nice way of establishing that Mrs. Garrett is Always Right.

In fact, I'm not sure Mr. Bradley ever got to be "right" on a school issue. Sure, he shows up at the end of Molly's Holiday, but he's again late and dollar-less: the problem has already been resolved, and he missed his flight for no reason.

You couldn't really do that with Mr. Parker: he was so professional and smooth that Mrs. Garrett rarely clashed with him. We see some clashing in "Read No Evil", and of course Edna's final confrontation when Mr. Parker acts like a complete ass, but until then, Mr. Parker was never as wrongheaded as Mr. Bradley.



If they had made Gail recurring before "Teacher's Pet", THAT would have been awesome on so many levels. Have Gail try to help Jo get a scholarship in "Ain't Miss Beholden", establishing a relationship at the beginning of Season 4. Then have her have coffee with Mrs. Garrett, mentioning there's a job down at the garage in "A Woman's Place". Then it doesn't feel so awkward when we're told Jo and Gail have been friends all year, when we never saw that. And then it's much more powerful for the audience when Gail dies: the audience has seen Gail mentoring Jo; viewers know what Gail meant to Jo.

By keeping the teachers to one-offs, it weakens Eastland.



Once again i absolutely agree with you Retro: MR BRADLEY was the perfect foil for MRS G and we were able to enjoy that all through season 1!
I know i am definitely in the minority here, but to me MR BRADLEY was the best headmaster (and not creepy like most people around here think): he was such a laugh, and you could never get bored with him! Besides, he was the youngest one of them all, and having some of his students fall for him would have given great story plots on FOL...

And yes: MRS G is always right!

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

You’re right, Retro. We wouldn’t want the little darlings to have to eat cold bread. Besides, Mr. Parker should have been able to afford a bun warmer, given all he was saving with the slave labor in the kitchen.

Thinking of the holiday season, they could have done an episode where Mr. Parker refuses to buy a bun warmer, being a major Scrooge. He's first visited by the Ghost of Mr. Bradley, who warns him that these stingy tactics against Mrs. Garrett will backfire. Later, he's visited by the Ghosts of Christmas Past (Molly, Cindy, Nancy, and Sue Ann), then the Ghost of Christmas Present (Edna), and then the Ghost of Christmas Future (Pippa). There, in the vision of the future, he sees the grim reality of 1987: the girls are slaving away in a tacky gift shop, urchins all around them, all because he didn't spring for a bun warmer when Edna needed it most! :lol:

Thinking of the holiday season, they could have done an episode where Mr. Parker refuses to buy a bun warmer, being a major Scrooge. He's first visited by the Ghost of Mr. Bradley, who warns him that these stingy tactics against Mrs. Garrett will backfire. Later, he's visited by the Ghosts of Christmas Past (Molly, Cindy, Nancy, and Sue Ann), then the Ghost of Christmas Present (Edna), and then the Ghost of Christmas Future (Pippa). There, in the vision of the future, he sees the grim reality of 1987: the girls are slaving away in a tacky gift shop, urchins all around them, all because he didn't spring for a bun warmer when Edna needed it most! :lol:



:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Thinking of the holiday season, they could have done an episode where Mr. Parker refuses to buy a bun warmer, being a major Scrooge. He's first visited by the Ghost of Mr. Bradley, who warns him that these stingy tactics against Mrs. Garrett will backfire. Later, he's visited by the Ghosts of Christmas Past (Molly, Cindy, Nancy, and Sue Ann), then the Ghost of Christmas Present (Edna), and then the Ghost of Christmas Future (Pippa). There, in the vision of the future, he sees the grim reality of 1987: the girls are slaving away in a tacky gift shop, urchins all around them, all because he didn't spring for a bun warmer when Edna needed it most! :lol:

Hahahahaha! Omg this is a brilliant premise! Please write this to submit to the Eastland Holiday Cyber Book! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hahahahaha! Omg this is a brilliant premise! Please write this to submit to the Eastland Holiday Cyber Book! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

You got it! :lol:

You got it! :lol:

Wow, now we'll have two versions of five more staves! :D

"Listen, Ghost Cindy with a sheet to match--when you pass someone while flying you're supposed to pass on the right!"

Wow, now we'll have two versions of five more staves! :D

"Listen, Ghost Cindy with a sheet to match--when you pass someone while flying you're supposed to pass on the right!"

Sheet to match! :rofl:

Sheet to match! :rofl:

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Boo buddies forever!

Wow, now we'll have two versions of five more staves! :D

"Listen, Ghost Cindy with a sheet to match--when you pass someone while flying you're supposed to pass on the right!"

"Who could pass you on the right? You're wearing king-sized sheets!!!!!" :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Boo buddies forever!

Hahaha! :rofl:

"Right, spirits to the end!"

"Who could pass you on the right? You're wearing king-sized sheets!!!!!" :lol::lol::lol::lol:

"You're built like a ghost bus!" :lol:

"You're built like a ghost bus!" :lol:

Or: "...You're built like a ghoul bus!" :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Or: "...You're built like a ghoul bus!" :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oooh clever! 👻

Hahaha "ghoul bus"! :brent