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Scrabjan1 05-21-2020, 08:21 AM 3 things
Why would Mr. Swanson leave his job in the middle of the day and drop Chuckie off with no one home. You would think he would have made an announcement in the store that he had Chuckie here and come to sporting goods. Not take the word of a 5 year old that the kid he was with got “losted.” Mrs. Murdoch obviously wasn’t home yet or could have taken him for shoes. Then she appears at the Cleaver’s house. (Weird) Didn’t seem much time went by from losing Chuckie to his getting home.
Why would that shoe salesman just leave the shoe department to look for Chuckie. Doesn’t he have to sell shoes?
How did Beaver know what shoe store to go to since Mrs. M didn’t tell Wally as Wally didn’t know.
Only good part is when Eddie showed up and the Cleavers were mean to him.
stevea 05-21-2020, 09:33 AM Yeah Eddie saved this episode. And that final scene with him insulting W&J without them knowing it (til he left) was great! "People being the way they are."
stevea 05-21-2020, 09:56 AM In answer to the other points:
1. Today Mr. Swanson would be arrested for child abduction.
2. It was a slow day?
3. Beaver took Chuckie to the closest shoe store (or maybe the store name was on a note with the money.)
One other note. In this episode there's the scene where Beaver is walking on the sidewalk with Chuckie, and he's saying, I like you, Beaver. Yet one season later in the babysitting episode, Chuckie doesn't even know him.
And Ward makes a comment about a baseball he got, and I think he makes a comment about mis-spelling Gabbie Hartnit's name when he signed it. Did the episode Ward's Baseball not exist?
Scrabjan1 05-21-2020, 01:14 PM Right. Hey maybe that was another baseball and he was doing a Larry Mondello to the baseball. Baby Ruth, Augy Dickey and Kiki Gehrig. Gabbie wasn’t even on Ward’s Baseball.
Scrabjan1 05-21-2020, 02:24 PM Yeah Eddie saved this episode. And that final scene with him insulting W&J without them knowing it (til he left) was great! "People being the way they are."
Yup they might have been mean to Eddie but he got the last word with his comment. It was nice of them to apologize.
Scrabjan1 05-22-2020, 09:30 AM Someone posted on FB how Chuckie’s Shoes was another good episode. I set her straight.
stevea 05-22-2020, 09:39 AM That, the episode where Beaver babysits Pat, and the bunny have to be the 3 worst episodes of the 234.
My initial reaction, and one I still hold is this:
Chuckie's mother had a whopping amount of nerve to barge into the Cleaver's home and make a sudden "request" ( read: demand ) of Wally to shop for shoes for her son. I mean really; what is the kid going to go barefoot because he can't have new shoes right now
Pull-leeeze!
stevea 05-22-2020, 12:19 PM My observation, had I been at the read-thru, would be: dump this script. Who wrote this? (Good question--let me check...Connelly and Mosher!!) So much for dumping the script!
Tankeryanker 05-22-2020, 03:24 PM I went to the dump with someone's dad once and my parents did not know. It was the late 60's. So, it could happen. But I was walking down the road and asked for a ride. I was not in a store.
Maybe there was one shoe store that most people with kids shopped at? Things were so different then.
stevea 05-23-2020, 01:49 PM Somebody on FB had a different take on the episode, saying that, in their small town, people always had neighbors' kids do them favors like that.
Tankeryanker 05-23-2020, 02:13 PM Somebody on FB had a different take on the episode, saying that, in their small town, people always had neighbors' kids do them favors like that.
and back then there were more churchgoers and that meant you saw your neighbor at church as well as at work so kids being with people in the community wasn't such a big deal.
But, to come over and insist that somebody do something just because and do it right now, I am not sure how often that would happen.
Ward was totally wrong with the jab at Wally blaming a junior in high school for creating such a mess. It was a woman in her 40's that caused the mess.
stevea 05-23-2020, 03:13 PM Also, Ward or June could have said, "Mrs. Murdock, neither of us knew anything about this. Didn't you know, like maybe last night, that Chuckie would need shoes? Maybe next time you could call us and ask if we could do it, and we could plan for it."
Scrabjan1 05-24-2020, 12:05 PM The woman was way out of line. Also she left Chuckie all alone at home when she went to ask Wally or tell Wally to get him shoes. She should have had Chuckie with her and then just pushed the kid right into the house that would’ve been really funny kind a like when Mrs. Mondello pushes Larry.
The way she just barged in and put them on the spot would be thought of as grossly impolite if done to other adults, even if they did get shamed into acceding. Yet, the implication seemed to be that it was OK to do so to Wally, as if his time was considered less valuable as an absolute truism.
It would be different if an exasperated mother were to drop in to a neighbor and ask for them to mind their kid because she had to attend to a family emergency ( illness, ER visit of a relative ). But to push her way into a home in a panicky state over getting....shoes for her son!!??
stevea 05-24-2020, 04:03 PM The woman was way out of line. Also she left Chuckie all alone at home when she went to ask Wally or tell Wally to get him shoes.
Maybe she left Chuckie with Pat. And speaking of Pat, who was staying with her while Marjorie went to the airport?
stevea 05-24-2020, 04:09 PM It would be different if an exasperated mother were to drop in to a neighbor and ask for them to mind their kid because she had to attend to a family emergency ( illness, ER visit of a relative ). But to push her way into a home in a panicky state over getting shoes for her son.
This would have been much better. "Mr. Murdock is out of town on business, with Mr. Mondello in Cincinnati, and my sister in Bellport fell and needs me to take her to the hospital. Now Chuckie needs his shoes", etc. The episode would have even worked, this way. The shoes are still lame, but this is a little better.
And she could still come back later and do all her emoting. "Beaver is lost and my sister is in the hospital. Boo hoo!!"
Scrabjan1 05-25-2020, 09:52 AM But instead of shoes maybe Chuckie needed his prescription filled for asthma and the pharmacy closed at 4 and wasn’t open on Sunday. Chuckie could get lost when he strays from Beaver and winds up having a soda at the snack bar. He hears Beaver calling and finds someone like in medical supplies to take him home. Remember when the drug store had a small soda fountain? Either way that script should have been left on the cutting room floor.
stevea 05-25-2020, 05:59 PM That's better...call it Chuckie's Lost.
Scrabjan1 05-26-2020, 09:18 AM The title was really bad, Chuckie’s Shoes. Just call it, as you say, Chuckie’s Lost or Chuckie the Brat or better still, Hysterical Mother.
Just saw Rory Stevens in a really lame episode of Gomer Pyle. He was at least in color. Don’t know how many seasons Gomer Pyle ran for but I think 2 seasons were too many. Frank Sutton saved that show.
stevea 05-26-2020, 09:50 AM Frank Sutton as Carter should have thrown Gomer out of the Marines after the first day.
Gomer Pyle ran 5 seasons.
I thought it was funny he lost his southern drawl when he sang.
Title: "Mommy Dumps the Kid on Beaver"
Tankeryanker 05-26-2020, 06:12 PM Good ole Gomer and that song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrqrlZYsDA
Scrabjan1 05-26-2020, 08:03 PM That was really explosive.
stevea 01-07-2021, 07:39 AM I think I just saw the kid who played Chuckie, on a 1967 episode of My Three Sons. Obviously a little older. Episode "You Saw A What?"
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