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BigManMike
09-06-2019, 08:18 AM
Just saw it announced on TVshowsonDVD’s Facebook post this morning

https://www.moviezyng.com/810017881499.aspx

https://www.moviezyng.com/810017881505.aspx

TheLogoMan94
09-06-2019, 08:57 AM
Wonderful news! Hopefully we'll see S05 soon, then that'll complete the B&W episodes. It's yet another MOD release, and ridiculous price tags for both volumes, but it's something I'd consider buying. I'm curious as to how the quality of these prints will be.

TeeVeeCloset
09-06-2019, 09:25 AM
Wonderful news! Hopefully we'll see S05 soon, then that'll complete the B&W episodes. It's yet another MOD release, and ridiculous price tags for both volumes, but it's something I'd consider buying. I'm curious as to how the quality of these prints will be.

Im in although I have the entire series with many uncut episodes, can't resist official releases and we need to get to my forever fantasy TV wife Katie seasons!

No link to amazon yet as of sept 6, 2019

Hazel Anyday
09-06-2019, 09:41 PM
FANTASTICO!! Now let us hope that they don't replace the original music and chop them up. Uncut and with original music please CBS masters.

By the way, I'm also happy that here these season 4's are coming out so soon after the season 3's came out. It took forever for season 3 to arrive, now with season 4 so soon following s.3 it hopefully means they've had a great response from us buyers for s.3 that they quickly came out with s.4. Now if they could just stop releasing these things divided into 2 volumes. Single seasons should be in one DVD set not 2. $32 for one entire season is much more in reality of what people are willing to spend. $64 for a single season is a lot to ask. But us crazed fans, at least, will be the ones to go for it. The average Jamoke? I doubt it.

faraj
09-07-2019, 03:11 AM
This was the first season with Ernie. When Stanley Livingston's real life brother, Barry, joined the cast as Ernie Thompson who eventually became the 3rd son after Mike and Sally got married and left in S6 when the show became color.

1960'sTVfan
09-07-2019, 11:54 AM
Will be interesting to know if season 4 has any edited episodes since a total of 8 edited episodes ended up on the season 3 DVD's.

stevea
09-08-2019, 01:20 PM
Also,

https://www.oldies.com/search/results.cfm?q=my+three+sons+4th+season+volume+1&results=

TeeVeeCloset
09-11-2019, 09:22 AM
Just saw it announced on TVshowsonDVD’s Facebook post this morning

https://www.moviezyng.com/810017881499.aspx

https://www.moviezyng.com/810017881505.aspx

Was anxious to order, it's september 11 and still i cannot find any link on amazon for ordering.

Saw cover art from the above links, but can anyone confirm a amazon link for september 10 as posted or has the release date changed?

stevea
09-11-2019, 09:30 AM
The oldies.com site is reliable. They have a lot of Ozzie & H DVDs I've ordered before.

Not sure why Amazon is not carrying it.

CJ
09-11-2019, 11:21 PM
Amazon was supposed to email me when it became available and I have heard nothing from them.

I took a chance on the Movie Zyng website that stated they would ship on 9/10. This afternoon I received a confirmation email that my DVD's have shipped and will be here tomorrow 9/12.

With Amazon adding tax, there was only a 96 cent difference between what I paid for S3 on Amazon and what I paid Movie Zyng for S4 including paying extra for 2-day shipping via UPS.

Just a teency-weency excited, I am ;)

TheLogoMan94
09-12-2019, 05:37 AM
Both volumes are now up on Amazon.

Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XL54YYT/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RPSNZBZ04U0S&keywords=my+three+sons+season+4+dvd&qid=1568254327&s=movies-tv&sprefix=my+three+sons+sea,movies-tv,1334&sr=1-5&pldnSite=1

Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XR974Q3/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=my+three+sons+season+4&qid=1568281009&sr=8-7

thejasoomian
09-17-2019, 04:46 PM
I have to say, I was surprised to learn they started releasing these My Three Sons seasons again. But it is definitely a pleasant surprise. I can't wait for the California episodes as they are my favorites.

Kasey
09-20-2019, 10:28 AM
This review is for Volumes 1 and 2 since I purchased both together. These two sets are the same as the Season 3 releases. No remastering has been done on the episodes themselves, but the score has not been altered like it was on the first two seasons that were released in 2008-2010. Those were pressed discs but these are the purple burned discs. They do have a nice silk screened logo on each disc that lists the episode titles. There is no insert with titles/airdates though.

The back covers feature the same colorized cast photo, although it not a Season 4 publicity pic, it’s from the first season. The bad news is that once again there are cut episodes. Most of the episodes on Volume 1 run between 25:30-25:40. On Volume 2, the episodes all start having shorter running times that range from around 24:00-24:50. I can’t tell if they are edited, so I assume maybe mid-season they began to make the episodes shorter. I did compare with The Patty Duke Show Season 1, which aired on ABC the same year as this, but the Patty episodes were all around 25:30, so it makes me wonder. The following is a list of run times on the confirmed edited ones:

DEAR ROBBIE 22:34
SECOND CHORUS 23:45
MY FRIEND ERNIE 22:38
THE END OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT 22:26
THE TOUPEE 22:29

I liked this Season better than the first three. The addition of Ernie (Barry Livingston) and Sally (Meredith MacRae) made the show more enjoyable for me. But, this is still pricey for edited episodes that are not remastered. Casual fans may want to pass on this and just watch on Me-TV, etc. rather than springing for this set. Season 5 is my favorite of the B&W years. I do hope if it’s released, there are no edits, but I am not holding my breath.

Hazel Anyday
09-20-2019, 11:52 AM
Thanks so much for the great pictures and the still shots! Great to see these wonderful new discs "in person" now. As for watching Me TV instead of buying these, then you'd be seeing EVERY episode edited and cut down as opposed to a few. I can't wait to get this set of Unedited and musically unmutilated My 3 Sons shows. I'm still watching Season 2 but I'm thinking maybe I should take the plunge and buy Seasons 3 & 4 now before someone at CBS decides to pull the plug on these marvelous releases.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 11:57 AM
So season 4 is similar to season 3, too many problems with edited episodes. The 24 minute episodes in the 2nd volume might mean the shows are speeded up/time compressed. I passed on season 3 so I'll pass on this one too, it's a no sale for me. I have the DVD's of the first two seasons and it looks like I'll be stopping there.

stevea
09-20-2019, 04:01 PM
I think the 24 minute episodes are probably a flat-out mistake--they might have used the same masters that MeTV has already time-compressed. I don't have a "good" source to compare to, or I'd time-compare scenes.

CBS ought to do corrections on this, but I doubt they will.

I agree with Kasey--we're paying steep prices for episodes that are mastered from source material that traces back to 16mm film. It isn't bad, but they could at least have used the 35mm originals for better quality.

I've said this before but they can't seem to put it all together for this show. We had the first two seasons remastered from high-quality negatives, but had music substitutions and edits. Now we have original music, but inferior-quality mastering. IMO we can expect the same for season 5 (but hopefully not sped-up episodes).

My prediction for season 6 (if we get that far) is the videotape sources from the 1990s, which are at least sourced from the 35mm masters. There are 4 or 5 edited episodes toward the end of season 7, and the first part of season 8 is slightly sub-par quality.

stevea
09-20-2019, 04:07 PM
BY the way, another note re Kasey's remark: there is definitely an issue with the 24+ minute episodes on Volume 2. They all should be 25+ minutes. I think Retro is right--my guess (noted above) is that they're time-compressed. I just can't prove it out.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 06:55 PM
I can accept the background music replacements in the season 1 and 2 DVD's because otherwise the episodes are uncut, aside from small edits in two season 1 shows.

For me, seasons 3 and 4 just have too many problems with edited or time compressed episodes to justify making the purchase.

Starting with season 3:

CBS is now going with alternate sources for the episodes instead of using the 35mm originals.

The DVD's are now purple DVD-R's instead of silver/pressed DVD's.

The DVD sets are now MOD releases instead of released at general retail.

These all sound like cost reducing moves to me in order to produce the DVD's as inexpensive as possible. It probably isn't high priority for CBS to make sure every episode is presented in it's uncut form. These DVD sets are being released for fans of the series who have been asking for more since DVD's were stalled after season 2. More DVD's are now available, along with their imperfections, for those who choose to buy them.

stevea
09-20-2019, 07:11 PM
I sent a complaint to the CBS Store re Vol. 2. Don't know if that's the right place but nothing came up for complaints to CBS DVD.

Based on the time-compressed episodes I'm beginning to wonder if MeTV is involved in supplying the masters for these DVD sets.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 07:34 PM
Based on the time-compressed episodes I'm beginning to wonder if MeTV is involved in supplying the masters for these DVD sets.

Could be, anything is possible.

12 season sitcom, 1960-72, this series deserves better treatment on DVD than it's been getting. Maybe it's lost some of it's audience, not as popular as it once was, I don't know.

It seems that CBS goes all out for Lucy and her shows, I have the 6 seasons of The Lucy Show and those episodes are pretty much all uncut.

stevea
09-20-2019, 07:59 PM
Oh, right, CBS went all-out with Lucy, original and Lucy Show. I'm just guessing, but probably some of the expense is actually finding all the original elements to remaster. Then creating a new 35mm print, and actually remastering it digitally, correcting it frame by frame as needed. Then clearing all the music, which CBS did with Lucy, but does with virtually no other series.

stevea
09-20-2019, 08:08 PM
Thanks so much for the great pictures and the still shots! Great to see these wonderful new discs "in person" now. As for watching Me TV instead of buying these, then you'd be seeing EVERY episode edited and cut down as opposed to a few. I can't wait to get this set of Unedited and musically unmutilated My 3 Sons shows. I'm still watching Season 2 but I'm thinking maybe I should take the plunge and buy Seasons 3 & 4 now before someone at CBS decides to pull the plug on these marvelous releases.

They've never pulled the plug on Seasons 1 and 2, but with these MOD sets, they might have made an initial run and if they see no more demand, I'm with you: they could pull the plug.

I also agree--with the few episodes that are syndication-length, and with a lot of Vol. 2 being time-compressed, it's still better than MeTV.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 08:29 PM
Oh, right, CBS went all-out with Lucy, original and Lucy Show. I'm just guessing, but probably some of the expense is actually finding all the original elements to remaster. Then creating a new 35mm print, and actually remastering it digitally, correcting it frame by frame as needed. Then clearing all the music, which CBS did with Lucy, but does with virtually no other series.

Lucy remains popular and is still a big money maker for CBS, so Lucy's shows got the royal treatment on DVD.

Compare that to My Three Sons which is no longer as popular and a smaller number of DVD sets will sell, which likely explains why the series gets lackluster treatment on DVD. It's a 12 season sitcom and it deserves better, but it is what it is.

Gomer Pyle USMC didn't get great DVD treatment either as CBS cut music segments from several episodes.

TeeVeeCloset
09-20-2019, 09:19 PM
Ok guys (the serious My Three Sons Club, Im A Member!) LOL.....

Got my set today and haven't popped in any, i first check to make sure all are clean discs with no scratches....lucked out there. Though as mentioned in another thread but with no response, I have 8 dvd players/recorders.....i have bought many warner/other company mod titles......the recent hanna barbera warner titles started having over the back case barcode "manufactured by amazon, Lexington, KY" it's really small print, the sons mod titles both have this.....my cartoon dvd's freeze up in my best player, and thought/asked is their a difference if you buy a mod title from the warner site?

anyway back to sons, im surprised none of you noticed that on season 4 volume two/disc 3 on the back case episode listing it's written as "The Guys and The/Dolls" as if they were separate episodes! LOL.....WOW a CBS MOD title has a typo that i spotted within seconds! If I made my own set, i couldn't live with my own mistake and would do over. And nobody at CBS noticed to my astonishment.

I do think the pictures are a bit clearer on the cases then the miserable blurriness that is on the season 3 dvd's.

Well here's hoping they at least play correctly, as i keep buying these, tho i have the entire series from various sources, including some season 10 uncut master 3/4 tapes from a UHF station that ran the series in early 1990. I have since transferred those episodes to dvd but still have the 3/4 umatic tapes.

Funny they still appear as glorified bootlegs though to me.

Hazel Anyday
09-20-2019, 10:32 PM
Wow, youz guys are really picky, or maybe you're just too cheap to shell out the big bucks and find it easier to blame not buying on a couple episodes missing a minute. Pretty lame invalid reason not to buy all the episodes because a couple are a minute short.

I can't believe we have just about every episode here uncut with original music and you all still can't muster up the coin to buy what you've all been begging for for years. Sorry, I just don't buy some of you here who say you won't buy the new sets because a couple episodes are missing one minute. Admit the truth at least, the real reason you aren't buying is you don't want to shell out the big bucks.:rolleyes:

Am I happy a couple episodes are missing a minute? No, of course not, is this a reason to take my ball and go home and not play? Uh uh.(That's a no.) Yes, I too have said here before that these prices are very steep, the whole season should be $35 not 1/2 a season. But, it's either accept it or continue to watch the highly edited episodes you get on TV. Yes, even the TV Land episodes are highly edited, tho w/original music.

The recent S.2 episode I talked about in another Sons thread "2nd Time Around" in the TV Land version a full straight 5 min. was cut out that I could only see on the commercial version. This made those commercial versions worthwhile, this is why these new DVDs are also invaluable if you're interested in watching a complete episode. You will never (at least till a genius creates cable channel that does for old TV what TCM does for old movies), you'll never see uncut Sons episode on TV today. Your only chance is these (admittedly overpriced) DVDs.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 10:34 PM
Ok guys (the serious My Three Sons Club, Im A Member!) LOL.....

im surprised none of you noticed that on season 4 volume two/disc 3 on the back case episode listing it's written as "The Guys and The/Dolls" as if they were separate episodes! LOL.....WOW a CBS MOD title has a typo that i spotted within seconds! If I made my own set, i couldn't live with my own mistake and would do over. And nobody at CBS noticed to my astonishment.

I doubt if CBS DVD has a quality control department that inspects things for errors like these prior to the DVD's being released. Makes me wonder sometimes who is actually working on these DVD's. Probably someone who was born 20 years after the series ended, hasn't seen the show before and not familiar with it at all.

Not to change the subject but I want to say, I recently bought the complete series DVD of Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, I just got finished watching the 4th season episode titled "The Deadly Dolls". This is a crazy episode. Vincent Price is the guest star and he's good at playing the villain. Irwin Allen's shows often defy logic and realism, but they sure can be a fun fantasy trip. :lol:

stevea
09-20-2019, 10:46 PM
Teeveecloset Just checked out the Guys and the/Dolls...Wow! Surprised nobody caught that one. The only playback issue I've had recently is a DVD that froze, and I discovered it had a hunk of tape on the playing surface. I thought something must be wrong because this particular player will play anything, usually.

HA I agree, whatever is done is way better than what we had before in the way of full episodes, which was NOTHING. Unless somebody can get in a wayback machine and tape from 1988 Nick at Nite. However, it doesn't hurt to note they've given this series short shrift, either. And we're paying a lot of money for episodes that are erroneously time-compressed.

Retro, interesting. When I wrote about Lucy (rightly) getting the red carpet treatment and clearing all the music, vs. not for other shows, I was thinking about Gomer.

stevea
09-20-2019, 10:53 PM
I doubt if CBS DVD has a quality control department that inspects things for errors like these prior to the DVD's being released. Makes me wonder sometimes who is actually working on these DVD's. Probably someone who was born 20 years after the series ended, hasn't seen the show before and not familiar with it at all.

Not to change the subject but I want to say, I recently bought the complete series DVD of Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, I just got finished watching the 4th season episode titled "The Deadly Dolls". This is a crazy episode. Vincent Price is the guest star and he's good at playing the villain. Irwin Allen's shows often defy logic and realism, but they sure can be a fun fantasy trip. :lol:

Voyage... was a good series. It's amazing the Seaview survived al it went thru.

Good point about who's working on older shows. It may be another reason it's so hard to get them on DVD. The young higher-ups have probably never heard of them. If M3S wasn't on MeTV it would probably be totally forgotten by CBS.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 11:08 PM
Wow, youz guys are really picky, or maybe you're just too cheap to shell out the big bucks and find it easier to blame not buying on a couple episodes missing a minute. Pretty lame invalid reason not to buy all the episodes because a couple are a minute short.

I can't believe we have just about every episode here uncut with original music and you all still can't muster up the coin to buy what you've all been begging for for years. Sorry, I just don't buy some of you here who say you won't buy the new sets because a couple episodes are missing one minute. Admit the truth at least, the real reason you aren't buying is you don't want to shell out the big bucks.:rolleyes:

Am I happy a couple episodes are missing a minute? No, of course not, is this a reason to take my ball and go home and not play? Uh uh.(That's a no.) Yes, I too have said here before that these prices are very steep, the whole season should be $35 not 1/2 a season. But, it's either accept it or continue to watch the highly edited episodes you get on TV. Yes, even the TV Land episodes are highly edited, tho w/original music.

The recent S.2 episode I talked about in another Sons thread "2nd Time Around" in the TV Land version a full straight 5 min. was cut out that I could only see on the commercial version. This made those commercial versions worthwhile, this is why these new DVDs are also invaluable if you're interested in watching a complete episode. You will never (at least till a genius creates cable channel that does for old TV what TCM does for old movies), you'll never see uncut Sons episode on TV today. Your only chance is these (admittedly overpriced) DVDs.

The season 3 DVD has a total of 8 edited episodes, the season 4 DVD is reported to have at least 5 edited episodes and several others seem to be time compressed. I have a strong dislike for edited episodes, and for me, that is just way too many problems to justify buying seasons 3 and 4.

The season 1 and 2 DVD's have the issue with the background music score being changed, but I can accept that because the episodes are otherwise uncut, aside from small edits in two season 1 shows.

I've recently bought several classic TV show DVD sets, spent a few hundred dollars, so I'm not reluctant to make purchases but it usually has to be something that's done well with all episodes or nearly all episodes uncut and not time compressed. I usually avoid DVD sets that contain several episodes which are edited or time compressed.

I agree that CBS is overcharging for these My Three Sons DVD's. For the lackluster quality of product they are releasing, the amount they charge for a half season would be more than enough for the full season.

I shop around on line for good DVD deals and I've found several good bargains by shopping on ebay. ebay is my main source lately for buying DVD's. Amazon not so much.

1960'sTVfan
09-20-2019, 11:37 PM
Voyage... was a good series. It's amazing the Seaview survived al it went thru.

Good point about who's working on older shows. It may be another reason it's so hard to get them on DVD. The young higher-ups have probably never heard of them. If M3S wasn't on MeTV it would probably be totally forgotten by CBS.

The "Voyage" DVD's are awesome, every episode is uncut. The only negative is that the DVD's are double sided. Fox DVD was no doubt trying to save some money by using two sided discs.

Another awesome DVD set is It Takes A Thief complete series, every episode in that set is also uncut. It's out of print now so sets being sold tend to be pricey, but worth the purchase if you can find a used set in good shape for a reasonable price.

I agree that if not for My Three Sons being shown on MeTV, CBS might not have continued with the DVD's. Just unfortunate they aren't doing a better job with them.

CJ
09-21-2019, 12:10 AM
Below are the run times of the episodes on the official Season 4 release.

Included in (parenthesis) after the run times of the shortened episodes of the release are the run times of the Nick-at-Nite uncut episodes from the late 1980's.

Haven't had a chance to compare to see just what is missing from the S4 release to make so many episodes shorter than the uncut N@N episodes.

And yes, being a true fan, I shelled out the big bucks for the official S4 release. And yes, I was somewhat disappointed, but as I always tell my trade friends. One can never have too many episodes of "My Three Sons."

Season 4 - Volume 1
112. 4-1 19 Sep 63 Almost the Sound of Music 25:33
113. 4-2 26 Sep 63 Scotch Broth 25:35
114. 4-3 03 Oct 63 Didya Ever Have One of Those Days? 25:34
115. 4-4 10 Oct 63 Dear Robbie 22:29 (25:13)
116. 4-5 17 Oct 63 A Car of His Own 25:35
117. 4-6 24 Oct 63 How Do You Know? 25:33


118. 4-7 31 Oct 63 My Friend Ernie 22:38 (25:25)
119. 4-8 07 Nov 63 The End of The You-Know-What 22:24 (25:22)
120. 4-9 14 Nov 63 The Toupee 22:28 (25:15)
121. 4-10 21 Nov 63 The Ever-Popular Robbie Douglas 25:32
122. 4-11 28 Nov 63 The Proposals 25:36
123. 4-12 05 Dec 63 Steve and the Viking 25:35


124. 4-13 12 Dec 63 Par for the Course 25:35
125. 4-14 19 Dec 63 Windfall 25:26
126. 4-15 26 Dec 63 Top Secret 25:34
127. 4-16 02 Jan 64 Will Success Spoil Chip Douglas? 25:32
128. 4-17 09 Jan 64 Second Chorus 23:44 (25:28)
129. 4-18 16 Jan 64 Never Look Back 25:35

Season 4 - Volume 2
130. 4-19 23 Jan 64 Marriage by Proxy 25:21
131. 4-20 30 Jan 64 The Chaperone 25:32
132. 4-21 06 Feb 64 My Fair Chinese Lady 25:35
133. 4-22 13 Feb 64 House for Sale 24:04 (25:24)
134. 4-23 20 Feb 64 Stone Frog 24:43 (25:20)
135. 4-24 27 Feb 64 Stage Door Bub 24:30 (25:09)


136. 4-25 05 Mar 64 Fish Gotta Swim, Birds Gotta Fly 24:05 (25:24)
137. 4-26 12 Mar 64 Cherry Blossoms in Bryant Park 24:38 (25:23)
138. 4-27 19 Mar 64 What's the Princess Really Like? 24:55 (25:27)
139. 4-28 26 Mar 64 The People's House 24:44 (25:23)
140. 4-29 02 Apr 64 The Tree 23:56 (?N@N?)
141. 4-30 09 Apr 64 The Substitute Teacher 24:09 (?N@N?)


142. 4-31 16 Apr 64 Mike Wears the Pants 24:20 (25:24)
143. 4-32 23 Apr 64 The Guys and the Dolls 24:32 (24:37)
144. 4-33 30 Apr 64 The Ballad of Lissa Stratemeyer 24:49 (25:26)
145. 4-34 07 May 64 Tramp Goes to Hollywood 24:33 (25:15)
146. 4-35 14 May 64 Adventure in New York 25:34
147. 4-36 21 May 64 Huckleberry Douglas 24:22 (25:25)
148. 4-37 28 May 64 Guest in the House 23:56 (25:26)

1960'sTVfan
09-21-2019, 10:28 AM
Season 4 turned out worse than season 3. Volume 1 has 5 edited episodes in the 22-23 minute range. In volume 2, only 4 episodes are at their proper run times, all the others seem to be either edited or time compressed. Very poor job by CBS DVD, it's inexcusable.

"True fans" of classic TV shows wouldn't accept this, but there are absolute die hards who will take anything they can get, even if it's garbage.

I didn't buy season 3 and won't buy season 4, I'll gladly save myself the expense, buying it would be a waste of money.

stevea
09-21-2019, 10:44 AM
It depends on whether the 24+ minute episodes are time-compressed, or if there is material edited out. If they're time-compressed they shouldn't be, but they're still quite watchable, if the one I viewed is any indication. The only other source I have to compare to is the MeTV version.

If it turns out to be time compression, on this set you might have 32 or 33 complete episodes. out of 37. If your private collection of season 4 can top that, Retro, I envy you (seriously)!

By the way, looking at CJs list above, it looks like "Second Chorus" (by the title and length) probably has a music edit.

1960'sTVfan
09-21-2019, 11:14 AM
It depends on whether the 24+ minute episodes are time-compressed, or if there is material edited out. If they're time-compressed they shouldn't be, but they're still quite watchable, if the one I viewed is any indication. The only other source I have to compare to is the MeTV version.

If it turns out to be time compression, on this set you might have 32 or 33 complete episodes. out of 37. If your private collection of season 4 can top that, Retro, I envy you (seriously)!

By the way, looking at CJs list above, it looks like "Second Chorus" (by the title and length) probably has a music edit.

LOL, I'm just very picky when it comes to edited or otherwise compromised episodes on DVD's. I can tolerate maybe an episode or two, but seasons 3 and 4 of My Three Sons just have way too many problems for me to consider making the purchase.

I can't watch My Three Sons on MeTV because during the time it's on, 7 to 8AM Monday thru Friday, the local channel cuts in for an hour of news. The season 1 and 2 sets from CBS are the only My Three Sons DVD's that I have and I watch those discs occasionally.

CJ
09-21-2019, 03:23 PM
"True fans" of classic TV shows wouldn't accept this, but there are absolute die hards who will take anything they can get, even if it's garbage.


As always--"To each, his own." However, I beg to differ with your perception of "True fans." We fans absolutely do accept and welcome any release. If nothing else, for support in the hope of subsequent season releases. Personally, this die hard fan did not need to purchase this S4 release, but chose to do so.

Honestly, I do not regard any episode of "My Three Sons" as "garbage", even though the Fergus episodes did leave alot to be desired. This show holds childhood memories for many of us. Edited or time-compressed episodes could be the only choice for some to see this memorable TV show again for the first time in years and years. Seriously, edited scenes would likely not even be noticed, much less remembered, but the joy of seeing the show again remains completely intact.

My collection contains just about every previously available source for M3S. Canadian TV Land S1 primarily uncut (with original music), Nick-at-Nite uncut b&w episodes, TV Land, Hallmark, Odyssey, ME-TV, Seattle KONG, Indianapolis WHMB, Columbia House VHS episodes. However, I still chose to purchase each of the official releases.

I would never wish to push my views upon you, but you may want to highly consider sticking with your plan to not purchase the S3 & S4 releases of M3S. No doubt you would be extremely dissatisfied if you did.

1960'sTVfan
09-21-2019, 04:25 PM
you may want to highly consider sticking with your plan to not purchase the S3 & S4 releases of M3S. No doubt you would be extremely dissatisfied if you did.

Yes I would be very dissatisfied and that's why I won't buy seasons 3 and 4. I don't like edited or time compressed episodes, and these sets have way too many of those for me to consider making the purchase. Seasons 3 and 4 DVD episodes are available for those who want them, despite their warts, blemishes, and imperfections. For me it's a no sale.

1960'sTVfan
09-21-2019, 05:43 PM
As always--"To each, his own." However, I beg to differ with your perception of "True fans." We fans absolutely do accept and welcome any release. If nothing else, for support in the hope of subsequent season releases. Personally, this die hard fan did not need to purchase this S4 release, but chose to do so.

Honestly, I do not regard any episode of "My Three Sons" as "garbage", even though the Fergus episodes did leave alot to be desired. This show holds childhood memories for many of us. Edited or time-compressed episodes could be the only choice for some to see this memorable TV show again for the first time in years and years. Seriously, edited scenes would likely not even be noticed, much less remembered, but the joy of seeing the show again remains completely intact.

True fans should be in revolt and not buy these DVD's. By purchasing them, it's basically telling CBS that it's OK to put edited and time compressed episodes on the DVD's. Accepting garbage means CBS will continue releasing garbage. That's what I meant when I said "garbage". I wasn't referring to the My Three Sons show or the quality of it's episodes, I was referring to the quality of product CBS DVD is releasing. Edited episodes/time compressed episodes are garbage. If CBS can't do any better, they should at least explain why these DVD sets are turning out so shoddy.

Some of the edits are probably due to music, but I don't want to get started on that, music edits are a huge bone of contention with me. I've never heard anything so ridiculous, scenes having to be deleted on the DVD because of music. It's an outrage, a pile of legal BS, something lawyers dreamed up so they can make more money.

TheLogoMan94
09-23-2019, 12:53 AM
This show is one I'm constantly looking for on 16mm. I only have 1 B&W episode, S02 E21 "Robbie Valentino". It is complete and has all original music. The other 6 prints I have are color episodes and all but 2 are complete. It's great to see progress on the DVDs, yes, but I do believe the only way to get the episodes in their original, unedited quality is by finding 16mm prints, but even then, some may be edited.

As for me, I'm split on whether to buy these DVDs or not. I may wait a little while before I do.

1960'sTVfan
09-23-2019, 02:35 PM
I'm split on whether to buy these DVDs or not. I may wait a little while before I do.

These half season sets of seasons 3 and 4 should be priced at around 10 dollars each because that's about all they're worth with all the edited and time compressed episodes.

Hazel Anyday
09-24-2019, 12:38 AM
Like I said, the real reason those here refuse to buy is they just don't want to shell out the big bucks. It's easier to blame a couple episodes missing a minute or 2 than to admit you're cheap. If though you're so happy to stick with your highly edited TV versions of My 3 Sons rather than buy 99% unedited versions this only means you don't really mind edited versions at all, it's the price you mind. Just admit it to yourself at least.

CJ's list of various sources of My 3 Sons sounds exactly like mine and I can add I also had some UNCUT Australian Fox Family channel b/w episodes in my set. I too had some of those extremely expensive Columbia House "Club" tapes, maybe you even got my set in a trade in the old days. Now "Retrotvfan4ver" if you want to complain about high prices, there's where you'd have a valid point. Each VHS Columbia tape had 3 or 4 episodes on it and cost $28 per tape. And you thought $30 for 16 episodes was too much. You don't know how lucky you are.

I'm pleased as punch to announce that TODAY I ordered all of both Seasons 3 & 4:D. Can't wait to enjoy the musically intact and mostly unedited episodes. Meanwhile the very vocal opposer of edits sticks with the highly edited TV versions.:crazy:

1960'sTVfan
09-24-2019, 09:45 AM
Like I said, the real reason those here refuse to buy is they just don't want to shell out the big bucks. It's easier to blame a couple episodes missing a minute or 2 than to admit you're cheap. If though you're so happy to stick with your highly edited TV versions of My 3 Sons rather than buy 99% unedited versions this only means you don't really mind edited versions at all, it's the price you mind. Just admit it to yourself at least.

CJ's list of various sources of My 3 Sons sounds exactly like mine and I can add I also had some UNCUT Australian Fox Family channel b/w episodes in my set. I too had some of those extremely expensive Columbia House "Club" tapes, maybe you even got my set in a trade in the old days. Now "Retrotvfan4ver" if you want to complain about high prices, there's where you'd have a valid point. Each VHS Columbia tape had 3 or 4 episodes on it and cost $28 per tape. And you thought $30 for 16 episodes was too much. You don't know how lucky you are.

I'm pleased as punch to announce that TODAY I ordered all of both Seasons 3 & 4:D. Can't wait to enjoy the musically intact and mostly unedited episodes. Meanwhile the very vocal opposer of edits sticks with the highly edited TV versions.:crazy:

I'm not cheap, I recently spent a few hundred dollars on classic TV show DVD releases that I like, sets that are done well with all uncut episodes. :) What I won't do is throw my money away on shoddily done DVD sets like seasons 3 and 4 of My Three Sons. If all the edited and time compressed episodes don't bother you, then go for it, good for you.

I have the season 1 and 2 DVD's and I'll probably be stopping there. Yes there are changes in the background music score but at least the episodes are uncut aside from small edits in two season 1 shows.

Svenfan1234
09-24-2019, 06:17 PM
I'll admit that the high price tag bothers me (I mean--$140 for two seasons of a show?!) but I'll probably end up caving to buying them probably volume by volume one day. To me, having a majority of episodes unedited and having a few edited (the music rights thing is BS--I am with all of you on that--but it ain't changing anytime soon) doesn't bother me as much as if they had just used the syndication masters they'd provided to MeTV. There were--what? Somewhere around 6 to 8 edited episodes on Season 3 out of 39? That's not really that bad at all, considering it IS an old show and clearly they went to the effort on finding the old prints for this show and there are probably reasons they could only find 22-minute syndicated episodes for some of the episodes. Just my two cents. :)

1960'sTVfan
09-24-2019, 07:31 PM
I'll admit that the high price tag bothers me (I mean--$140 for two seasons of a show?!) but I'll probably end up caving to buying them probably volume by volume one day. To me, having a majority of episodes unedited and having a few edited (the music rights thing is BS--I am with all of you on that--but it ain't changing anytime soon) doesn't bother me as much as if they had just used the syndication masters they'd provided to MeTV. There were--what? Somewhere around 6 to 8 edited episodes on Season 3 out of 39? That's not really that bad at all, considering it IS an old show and clearly they went to the effort on finding the old prints for this show and there are probably reasons they could only find 22-minute syndicated episodes for some of the episodes. Just my two cents. :)

I would have bought season 3 if only 1 or 2 episodes were edited, but 8 edited episodes is just too many for me. Season 4 is worse than season 3 with all the time compressed episodes along with the edited ones.

Anyhow, it is what it is, CBS is not going to go back to make corrections and reissue the sets with all perfect uncut episodes. That isn't going to happen. There are those like me who won't buy the DVD's, and there are others who will buy them anyway in spite of the problems.

Hazel Anyday
09-24-2019, 10:23 PM
OK, I've done some price shopping for you guys, I bought mine yesterday from Movies Unlimited they had a 15% off sale. Unfortunately the sale was over midnight last night, BUT they have these sales fairly often. They send me their email ads all the time. Yesterday the price for each of S. 3 & S. 4 DVD sets was $25.49. Today I checked out what the price is now and it's only gone up to $29.99 at Movies Unlimited. I then checked out Deep Discount (the most expensive, surprisingly), Critics Choice Video, and Oldies.com all of them $32 or 31 something. So (I don't buy from ebay) so as of now Movies Unlimited is still the place to go, $29.99 each. Not bad. Certainly better than what was talked about here as each of them being $35 a piece, so good deals can be had.:)

CJ
09-25-2019, 02:54 PM
I'm pleased as punch to announce that TODAY I ordered all of both Seasons 3 & 4:D. Can't wait to enjoy the musically intact and mostly unedited episodes. Meanwhile the very vocal opposer of edits sticks with the highly edited TV versions.:crazy:

Taking all things into consideration, you will not be disappointed. True fans will be pleased. Those who have waited years to see these b&w episodes, with no other means to view it, will be even more pleased. Not everyone has bootlegs or receives ME-TV to be able to watch it.

I had a little time and compared three of the episodes on Vol.2 Disc 2 to the uncut N@N episdoes. There is a straight 27 seconds short on all episodes which is due to the end credit theme song having a stanza edited out. All credits remain intact, just the shortened background music only. Not sped up, just the credits do not remain on the screen as long (just hit pause, if you really need more time to read :lol: ) So, the good news is that some of the previously thought to be edited episodes are likely not edited at all.

There was NO time compression of the episodes, themselves.

The cut scenes I found on all three episodes checked were insignificant to storyline and added nothing of value. Had I not seen what was cut, I would never have missed it. One example: Bub walking from the kitchen to the LR, humming and picking up a sock and a shoe :eek: Let's just go ahead and throw the baby out with the bath water :rolleyes:

stevea
09-25-2019, 03:05 PM
Excellent news on the lack of time compression.

I remember noticing an edit when comparing the MeTV version to another taped version of a season 5 episode. The MeTV version had edited out Charley or Bub hauling out or bringing back a trash can at the beginning of an episode, maybe 10 or 15 seconds. These kind of edits are hardly make or break for anyone.

The shortened credits are commonplace on MeTV, too. As CJ says, if you can't read them, hit pause.

And I'm sure Bub picking up a sock added nothing to the script, either.

Oh, by the way, HA, thanks for letting everyone know about your great deal!

stevea
09-25-2019, 03:14 PM
...Meanwhile the very vocal opposer of edits sticks with the highly edited TV versions.:crazy:

The MeTV versions run about 23 minutes. The CBS DVD versions on S4 V2 mostly run 24+ minutes. So, these versions are WAY better than we can get anywhere else, unless we can get the 1980s Nickelodeon network back.

1960'sTVfan
09-25-2019, 04:07 PM
You folks can dress it up all you like and try to make the DVD's sound acceptable, but the fact remains that season 4 has lots of problems. It doesn't matter if an edit is "insignificant to the storyline" (:lol:, that's a funny excuse) an edit is still an edit. Shortened end credits are less of an issue but it's still an edit also. Season 4 episodes should run in the 25:30 range, any episode running under 25 minutes means there's a problem, season 4 has 20 episodes under 25 minutes so there are plenty of problems regardless of any positive spin you try to put on it. :rolleyes: :crazy: :lol:

Maybe CBS will do much better with season 5, will see what happens if they release it.

stevea
09-25-2019, 04:59 PM
Nothing's perfect. It's better than anything else out there. It's clear some people won't want the set. To each her or his own.

I agree, I would hope the 5th season set, if there is one, is better. Who wouldn't want that?

1960'sTVfan
09-25-2019, 05:28 PM
It's better than anything else out there. It's clear some people won't want the set. To each her or his own.

I agree, I would hope the 5th season set, if there is one, is better. Who wouldn't want that?

That is true, it's better than anything else because season 4 hasn't officially been released before so there's no other option to choose from.

If season 5 gets released, I might be in for it if every episode is uncut and at it's proper original run time. If one or two episodes would be edited, I wouldn't like it but could probably live with it.

Hazel Anyday
09-25-2019, 06:14 PM
I can predict it already, you won't buy, even if it's a fuzzy on one of the frames of the picture, that would give you excuse not to buy. ohno: Fine, but don't try to convince us that highly edited TV versions are just as good as these beautiful commercial versions.

As a wise man said a couple posts back, those who wait for perfection will wait forever. Enlightening, oh, that was little old me.:lol:

1960'sTVfan
09-25-2019, 06:41 PM
don't try to convince us that highly edited TV versions are just as good as these beautiful commercial versions.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just pointing out the flaws in these My Three Sons DVD's. They are far from beautiful. While I think buying these is a waste of money, it's up to each person to decide what they want to do. There are those like me that will choose not to buy, and others that will buy anyway in spite of the flaws.

those who wait for perfection will wait forever.

And that sadly seems to be the case with My Three Sons. There are DVD sets of other classic TV shows that are perfect with uncut episodes at their proper original run times and I have several of these. :)

Hazel Anyday
09-27-2019, 09:41 PM
Well, I told you Movies Unlimited has these 15% off sales pretty often and they just started the next 15% off sale starting today and ending on 9/30 at midnight CT. Quoting now their ad:

"MERCHANDISE ORDER MUST BE AT LEAST
$50.00 TO RECEIVE EXTRA 15% OFF.

Discount applies to items only and not to shipping and tax.
Discount applied at checkout. Not valid on phone or mail orders.
Coupon expires Monday, 9/30/2019, at 11:59 PM CT

Here is the Movies Unltd. website:

https://www.moviesunlimited.com/?utm_campaign=1906392701&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zaius

So their normal price for these Seasons 3 & 4 individual volumes is $29.99 but now with the sale on the price for each vol. is $24.49.

When you get to the checkout you need to:
"ENTER COUPON CODE "15OFF50"

OK gang, now's your chance to save big, even the normal Movies Unltd. price of $29.99 is $10 cheaper than the list price of these sets.

OK, ready set, BUY!:D

stevea
09-29-2019, 07:56 PM
So strange, I plopped in an S4 DVD, and the first thing I heard was some of that H-B, O&H, Donna Reed, etc. John Seely music that I think was bleeped and subbed on seasons 1 and 2.

THANK YOU, CBS! I DON'T GET IT, BUT THANKS!!!

stevea
09-29-2019, 08:10 PM
Here's an interesting, but long, old post on another site about those music cues. One name, Emil Cadkin, I recognize from Donna Reed credits.

If you read this post and attempted to ascertain who owned the rights, you'd probably have to give up and hope the copyrights had expired. Sounds like back in the day there was a lot of iffy stuff going on with these compositions.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/music-by-john-seely-love-or-hate-wb-and-olther-cartoons.240570/

Hazel Anyday
09-29-2019, 09:55 PM
Doorbell rang today, the postman ran away but he left a box in front of the door before taking off.:mail: (When did the US Post Office start delivering on Sunday? Never heard of before. Come to think of it, they used to wait for you to answer the door too.)

Wow, I was excited:happyface, all the My 3 Sons' were there! And what a great beautiful color picture of the family on the back of the Seasons 4. It's so sharp and clear, the picture posted earlier of the DVDs doesn't do the real thing justice, so sharp, clear and colorful in person. I'm a big fan of colorization:rainbow: and seeing this great color picture really makes me wish they'd colorize this series, would love to see Bub & Jean (Mike's season 1 girl friend) in color.

Glad to just have read above they're using the original "Popcorn" song on the menu screen:yippee: instead of the imitation "Popcorn" song they used on the Season 2's. For those not familiar, here's the classic "Popcorn" used by My 3 Sons and countless other shows in the early '60's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn_4YjZx5Vo

By the way, the imitation of the original "Popcorn" song used on the commercial Season 2 discs is interesting, it's almost like the original but different. Funny how they tried to do an imitation of it for the fake music discs.

OK, I was worried today:doh: when I read the very dreaded teeny-tiny print on the back of the DVD that "Music has been changed" YIPE!!!omg: But the report just above here gives me some relief.:baby: I'll know for sure when I watch them if this is really the real music or not. Let's hope they just forgot to remove that warning from the DVDs. I just hope it's the real thing. But using the original "Popcorn" song does give me some relief.:beeutiful

stevea
09-29-2019, 10:24 PM
I think they put that disclaimer on there in hopes no copyright maven is paying attention. I'm sure it was on season 3 too.

Never knew the name of that theme (Popcorn) but that's it. It's on tons of shows from that era (along with many other cues).