I watched the Zodiac movie with Mark Ruffalo recently and I thought it was an excellent movie. My question is who do you guys think the Zodiac killer was in real life? Do you think the movie got it right? Or do you have a different opinion? I would love know your guys thoughts and opinions on who you think the Zodiac killer was and what you thought about the movie and how it was portrayed if you watched it.

My best guess - as it usually turns out in most serial killer cases - is some one
off the radar, or came up briefly as a person authorities looked at one time.

Conversely you can make argument for most of most popular suspects,
obviously with exception of Ted Cruz...enough said :lol:

My best guess - as it usually turns out in most serial killer cases - is some one
off the radar, or came up briefly as a person authorities looked at one time.

Conversely you can make argument for most of most popular suspects,
obviously with exception of Ted Cruz...enough said :lol:


No.. There's one unique thing that sets whoever the Zodiac is(or was) apart.. And that's the ciphers he sent out. 3 out of the 4 have not been cracked yet. Now.. One of two things there.. Either he screwed up and miscalculated and 3 of the 4 are accidentally unsolvable due to that, and he's not as smart as I think.

But.. My opinion is they're legit ciphers and this guy was pretty damn smart.

I watched the Zodiac movie with Mark Ruffalo recently and I thought it was an excellent movie. My question is who do you guys think the Zodiac killer was in real life? Do you think the movie got it right? Or do you have a different opinion? I would love know your guys thoughts and opinions on who you think the Zodiac killer was and what you thought about the movie and how it was portrayed if you watched it.

IMHO, it was a great movie, many great actors doing superb jobs in their respective roles. I also know that in the 10 or so years since I saw it, I have never been able to hear that song that starts the movie without getting chills.

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IMHO, it was a great movie, many great actors doing superb jobs in their respective roles. I also know that in the 10 or so years since I saw it, I have never been able to hear that song that starts the movie without getting chills.

The daylight attack at Berryessa Lake scene, was the most genuinely scared I have ever been in a movie cinema :eek:

Someone not on the radar.

It's kind of a pointless question.

A better question is what kind of person was the Zodiac? In all probability, a sexually frustrated, woman fearing male in his thirties with a military background, highly intelligent but with feelings of inferiority and a need to prove himself.

The movie was enjoyable. I saw it in the theater when it came out. The Lake Berryessa scene was shocking.

David Fincher really knows how to shoot crime dramas. Fantastic film all around and every time I watch the final scene where the actor portraying Mike Mageau says, “The last time I saw that face was July 4th, 1969. I am very sure that’s the man who shot me.” right as “Hurdy Gurdy Man” kicks in and the credits pop... man. It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Every. Single. Time.

What do you think of Thomas Henry Horan’s theory about Zodiac being a hoax? (https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/category/thomas%20horan)

Have any of you ever heard the theory that Zodiac might be Bruce Davis from the Manson family? I really don't think so! I don't get the connection with him being the Zodiac killer ! :confused:


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What do you think of Thomas Henry Horan’s theory about Zodiac being a hoax? (https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/category/thomas%20horan)

I'm not sure if I believe his theory in total, but I have heard other theories on the Zodiac being multiple people or an original and a copycat and I find that intriguing.

The Zodiac either evolved quite a bit or a new person committed some of the later attacks and changed the method.

In one of the podcasts I was listening to about Zodiac, they said that as far as killers go, this wasn't even that big. (Any murder is horrible, mind you, but the point was compared to the OSN/EAR and others, Zodiac was relatively small in number.) Zodiac got so much attention because of the letters and they cyphers, which were so bizarre.

As far as the unsolvable cyphers, I'm not convinced they are the work of a genius or contain anything meaningful. As no one has been able to solve them, they could just be symbols with no real meaning but the Zodiac got off by taunting everyone that the answer was right there in front of them. If he was so smart, why would he give away his identity and risk being caught? I think that whole thing was just a big, fat tease.

I agree with the others who said Zodiac is probably someone unknown to law enforcement who hasn't been identified yet. Some of the suspects were good, but all of them can be eliminated to some extent. I do think it's possible that it was more than one person, though, and that would explain a lot.

I think Zodiac was Robert Ivan Nichols. When the letters ROBERTINICHOLS are substituted for the last line in the Z340 message, the word REVENGE appears in the text. Nichols was living under a stolen ID at the time of his death, and for many years prior to that, acted very strange according to co-workers, built his own machine gun, and fits the profile of Zodiac, having served in the military and having been an engineer.

I don’t have a clue who did it. One suspect really startled me - RICHARD GAIKOWSKI! He’s from South Dakota and went to the local area college.

I did listen to the Art Bell show (years ago) on the Zodiac Killer and Gaikowski was mentioned by the guest. I don’t know too much of the Zodiac Killer case other that has been on UM and other shows.

I doubt that he is zodiac however.

My best guess - as it usually turns out in most serial killer cases - is some one
off the radar, or came up briefly as a person authorities looked at one time.

Conversely you can make argument for most of most popular suspects,
obviously with exception of Ted Cruz...enough said :lol:

This.

Does anybody think that Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac killer? Like the move implied.

So we're all in the same camp here when we say Zodiac and the Unibomber weren't the same person? :eek:

The only suspect I ever took seriously was Kjell Qvale... and he wasn't the Zodiac.

So we're all in the same camp here when we say Zodiac and the Unibomber weren't the same person? :eek:

I'm with you on it, at least. Takes two different types of people.. Ted was a smart guy, but he killed from a distance. Zodiac did it up close.

I think IQ-wise, they're likely on par with each other. But personality.. I think they're very different people.

I'm with you on it, at least. Takes two different types of people.. Ted was a smart guy, but he killed from a distance. Zodiac did it up close.

I think IQ-wise, they're likely on par with each other. But personality.. I think they're very different people.

I joke CONSTANTLY that The Unabomber and Zodiac were one and the same. However, I don't think they are the same individual. I'll joke about it, but it's not a real thing.

I do like the theory that Ted Cruz is the Zodiac, though... :D

I joke CONSTANTLY that The Unabomber and Zodiac were one and the same. However, I don't think they are the same individual. I'll joke about it, but it's not a real thing.

I do like the theory that Ted Cruz is the Zodiac, though... :D

Small brain: Ted Kaczynski is the Unabomber

Normal brain: Ted Kaczynski is Zodiac

Expanding brain: Ted Cruz is Zodiac

Galaxy brain: Ted Cruz is the Unabomber

:eek:

I should've just made this as a meme, rather than do it in text format

I too, am skeptical of the Ted Kaczynski theory. Give me something more solid to go on than “he lived in the area at the time and they both killed people.” The Bay Area is home to millions of people and some of them probably committed crimes, so following that logic, congratulations, every man living in 60s-70s era Bay Area California, who later went on to commit a crime, is a reasonable suspect. Heck there might be a few people on this messageboard who fit that description.

I too, am skeptical of the Ted Kaczynski theory. Give me something more solid to go on than “he lived in the area at the time and they both killed people.” The Bay Area is home to millions of people and some of them probably committed crimes, so following that logic, congratulations, every man living in 60s-70s era Bay Area California, who later went on to commit a crime, is a reasonable suspect. Heck there might be a few people on this messageboard who fit that description.

To Quote https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Zodiac_Killer with a little rewording/correcting:

*Kaczynski became a professor at the University of California Berkeley in 1967. Just over a year later, the Zodiac committed his first murders in nearby Vallejo.

*One month after the first murders, Kaczynski tendered his resignation from Berkeley without any apparent reason.

*Kaczynski owned a light, tan-colored 1967 Chevy Malibu, which was the same car that the Zodiac drove, according to Michael Mageau.

*During the Lake Berryessa attack, the Zodiac mentioned that he had escaped from Deer Lodge, Montana. Kaczynski's cabin was located just an hour's drive from Deer Lodge.

*Kaczynski matched the description of the Zodiac Killer; specifically, he looked almost identical to the man seen near the Stine murder scene.

*Kaczynski was a mathematical genius, more than apt to create the codes used by the Zodiac.

*Kaczynski also communicated with the police through the newspaper as the Unabomber.

*The Unabomber attacks started just one month after the last Zodiac letter was sent; The Zodiac had threatened to return with a new war with technology.

*Similarity of writing style and wording by Kaczynski and the Zodiac.

*The name "Theodore J. Kaczynski" fits perfectly in an undeciphered sequence of letters in one of the Zodiac letters.

Now I'm not saying I firmly believe that Ted Kaczynski was Zodiac, and there's certainly nothing concretely tying him to those crimes. The above does make it difficult to discount the theory entirely though.

I've always wondered if they questioned the dispatcher who put the ABP out that they were searching for an African American suspect @ the Washington and Cherry crime scene and where they got that information from?

Zodiac could have been a complete rando or one of the suspects Larry Kane lived in the theater district of San Francisco and walking distance of the crime scene.

Arthur Leigh Allen apparently lived not to far from Darlene Ferrin.