What do the people want? Of course for CBS to release My 3 Sons on DVD, all seasons and UNCUT. Does CBS listen, do they do what folks would like? Uh, no, not exactly. They JUST REMOVED ALL My 3 Sons from You Tube!!! They're ALL gone. Now just yesterday when I wanted to check on Katie's Career, I went to you tube and the episode was there just yesterday. It's been a Thursday massacre of all episodes off of you tube. Whoever did originally post those episodes did every fan a favor. I have never mentioned the fact that you could find these episodes on You Tube because I didn't want those ever lovin' CBS censors to realize all episodes were up for viewing on You Tube. Well, they finally woke up and ruined every fan's chance to see these episodes whenever they want.

Once again, thank goodness for bootlegs. A sad day for those who still haven't realized to record these shows when they are available. Let this be a lesson, record these shows when you can, because it's guaranteed they WILL disappear for perhaps decades as My 3 Sons has done before.

My real question is, if these companies that own the shows have no intention of releasing them on DVD for people to gladly buy, then why are they so intent on removing people's opportunity to see these shows? I could understand if they were releasing these on DVD and didn't want people to get them for free off you tube, but when they have zero desire to release them themselves why simply ruin people's chance to watch?

They do absolutely NOTHING with their catalog of older shows such as this, no DVD sets, no remastering beyond season 2. But they go to the trouble of claiming their copyright, and having Youtube yank the episodes. The only good thing you might say about this is that someone there has actually noticed the show ("Hey, what's this show? Anyone ever, like, heard of it?" said the millennial CBS guy to the millennial CBS girl. "Well, we hear it's like out there on Youtube. Let's like make sure to claim our copyright on it and have it removed.")

All they really do with M3S is collect revenue from syndication.

If they have no interest in doing DVDs, they should contract it out to Shout or Time Life to reap their back catalog.

Ah-ha !!! Looks like they really cleaned house, this time.

A few months ago, they removed the episodes originally posted by whomever put them up there [this time], minus Season 7 which was never posted along with the other seasons.

However, other people saved the episodes and re-posted them with longer running times, like 25-30-40 minutes, or so. To disguise? Perhaps.

Last night I went looking for "The Lostling" and there were still lots of episodes on there, but many were listed under incorrect titles and there were several duplicate titles, but none of the titles matched the episodes. Perhaps another attempt to disguise? But, now those are also gone.

They come and go. This go round, I downloaded them and also put them on a USB. Call me crazy, but you are correct about bootlegs being the only way to get this show. I have several different DVD sets from various airings and the official releases [I don't mind the music, to get uncut episodes.] Most valued are the Season 6-10 uncut episodes. The Nick at Nite uncut episodes still elude me, but I just found someone claiming to have them. We shall see....

One can never have too many "My Three Sons" episodes archived on different types of media, can one?

Ah-ha !!! Looks like they really cleaned house, this time.

A few months ago, they removed the episodes originally posted by whomever put them up there [this time], minus Season 7 which was never posted along with the other seasons.

However, other people saved the episodes and re-posted them with longer running times, like 25-30-40 minutes, or so. To disguise? Perhaps.

Last night I went looking for "The Lostling" and there were still lots of episodes on there, but many were listed under incorrect titles and there were several duplicate titles, but none of the titles matched the episodes. Perhaps another attempt to disguise? But, now those are also gone.

They come and go. This go round, I downloaded them and also put them on a USB. Call me crazy, but you are correct about bootlegs being the only way to get this show. I have several different DVD sets from various airings and the official releases [I don't mind the music, to get uncut episodes.] Most valued are the Season 6-10 uncut episodes. The Nick at Nite uncut episodes still elude me, but I just found someone claiming to have them. We shall see....

One can never have too many "My Three Sons" episodes archived on different types of media, can one?Is someone privately selling the N@N episodes? I would sure like to have copies of those prints.

Is someone privately selling the N@N episodes? I would sure like to have copies of those prints.

I have never come across anyone selling them, or I would certainly be in the poor house. Years of searching high and low for them, have produced no results. I specifically ask every time I see anyone offering the series and they all have the same ones that are already out there.

I figure the cost of blank VHS tapes is the reason they are hard to come by.

My latest lead may not pan out, but it as close as I have ever gotten.

Yes, all that seems to be "out there" are Odyssey/Hallmark.

I could kick myself for not rolling the VCR--I remember seeing those episodes on Nick at Nite. I just didn't know how rare they were, at the time.

If they're doing the 'we're not going to release it AND won't let you watch it deal, could it be that they may be thinking of redoing it and don't want viewers to make easy comparisons to the original?

I'd like to think so. I read someplace that they're moving on The Beverly Hillbilles again. Maybe they hired some people and decided to do something for a change.

Reportedly Beverly Hillbillies Season 5 is scheduled for release later this year.

Regarding older My Three Sons airings: I taped Season 1 of M3S from Nick at Nite on VHS back in the 1990s, but the tape had degraded the last time I tried to view it. That was several years ago. Once the official releases had come out, I was no longer concerned -- until I learned of the music problems.

What do the people want? Of course for CBS to release My 3 Sons on DVD, all seasons and UNCUT. Does CBS listen, do they do what folks would like? Uh, no, not exactly. They JUST REMOVED ALL My 3 Sons from You Tube!!! They're ALL gone. Now just yesterday when I wanted to check on Katie's Career, I went to you tube and the episode was there just yesterday. It's been a Thursday massacre of all episodes off of you tube. Whoever did originally post those episodes did every fan a favor. I have never mentioned the fact that you could find these episodes on You Tube because I didn't want those ever lovin' CBS censors to realize all episodes were up for viewing on You Tube. Well, they finally woke up and ruined every fan's chance to see these episodes whenever they want.

This wasn't just M3S, something is up over at Youtube, someone is going through and cleaning house on episodes of all kinds of sitcoms that were there just a few months ago. "The King of Queens" used to have every episode from every season on there, now there are only a select few, same with "Designing Women" and "The Mary Tyler Moore Show", to name a few. I work nights from home as a triage nurse and often have time between calls to watch stuff on Youtube and I have noticed them systematically taking away these shows one by one.

I guess it only makes sense that the people who own the rights to these shows don't want to give their product away for free, it was only a matter of time before they caught up with the folks posting them for free on Youtube. It really doesn't make sense with a show like M3S, though, where the full series isn't available on DVD. You would think that they would want to leave them on there to attract attention and have new people discover them before releasing the DVDs, it could only help sales. KOQ and DW are both available in their entirety on DVD so I can see it a little more there, why buy the cow when there's milk in the fridge?

CBS cannot knowingly leave those M3S episodes up on YouTube. Let’s say that CBS leaves them. And later on, someone else takes M3S and starts showing them on a higher profile station or website without CBS permission. If CBS sues, their damages will be more limited than if they weren’t protecting their copyright all along.

Perhaps more M3S DVD's are being planned, so request was made to You Tube to pull all episodes posted. I was thinking about buying seasons 1 and 2 when those DVD's came out, but when I found out about the music alterations/changes I said hell no I'm not buying this garbage. This music rights stuff is a pile of BS, a bunch of legal nonsense and it has ruined some DVD releases. The DVD's of Gomer Pyle USMC were ruined because many of the scenes containing music/songs were trimmed out of the episodes. :mad:

This isn't a TV show, but I noticed recently that the Bowery Boys movies have been pulled from You Tube also, someone had been posting them. Warner's released all Bowery Boys movies on DVD a few years ago, but they did a stupid thing by putting the later titles from the series on the DVD's in widescreen format. It's true that the later films in the series were filmed in widescreen, which is fine for theater viewing, but for home DVD purposes fullscreen is so much better. I hate seeing that widescreen crap with the black bars at top and bottom of the picture, it looks terrible. So with the Bowery Boys DVD's from Warner's, I believe the films are fullscreen all the way up thru "Loose In London". Then starting with "Clipped Wings", it switches to widescreen for the remainder of the series. Because of this, I avoided the Bowery Boys DVD's from Warner's and did not purchase them. I have my own Bowery Boys collection, movies were recorded from TV, all are complete and all are fullscreen including the later ones. :)

It sounds like CBS and Sony made a large complaint to Youtube on copyright violation. I think you can post a few scenes, but not whole episodes. They probably spell it out in their terms of use that everyone diligently reads.

stevea could be correct, maybe someone at CBS or Sony got a bug up their ass and whined to You Tube to remove all the My Three Sons episodes. I'm actually not a huge fan of the show but probably would have bought the first two seasons DVD's if the scoundrels at CBS DVD hadn't messed with the music.

retrotvfan just reminded me of what I just saw earlier today. I was watching Columbia's official release of the 3 Stooges short from 1954 "Fling In The Ring" with my favorite, Shemp. At least twice during the short Shemp's upside down but you can't see his head, even when it's called for for the joke to pay off, for instance he lands upside down in a bucket of water and you hear him making bubble noises in the bucket BUT all you see is his chest to his feet on top, head's cut off by the wide screened 3 Stooge episode. Now to be clear, I love wide screen when it's genuinely used, for instance when a TV square picture takes a genuine widescreen movie and cuts off the sides to fit it in a squareish old style TV then I really want it in widescreen. But sometimes, as here with the Stooges, I believe I've always seen the bucket containing Shemp's head in old TV broadcasts of the Stooges, I don't ever remember his head cut off. I think what's happened is they've taken an original 4x3 picture frame Stooge and turned it into a ipso facto widescreen, doing just the opposite of what TV used to do to widescreen movies, only now they actually cut off the top and the bottom of the 4x3 picture to stretch it out into a widescreen image for DVD. I hate this as much as I hated when they'd cut off the sides of a real widescreen picture to fit it onto a 4x3 screen of old.

retrotvfan just reminded me of what I just saw earlier today. I was watching Columbia's official release of the 3 Stooges short from 1954 "Fling In The Ring" with my favorite, Shemp. At least twice during the short Shemp's upside down but you can't see his head, even when it's called for for the joke to pay off, for instance he lands upside down in a bucket of water and you hear him making bubble noises in the bucket BUT all you see is his chest to his feet on top, head's cut off by the wide screened 3 Stooge episode. Now to be clear, I love wide screen when it's genuinely used, for instance when a TV square picture takes a genuine widescreen movie and cuts off the sides to fit it in a squareish old style TV then I really want it in widescreen. But sometimes, as here with the Stooges, I believe I've always seen the bucket containing Shemp's head in old TV broadcasts of the Stooges, I don't ever remember his head cut off. I think what's happened is they've taken an original 4x3 picture frame Stooge and turned it into a ipso facto widescreen, doing just the opposite of what TV used to do to widescreen movies, only now they actually cut off the top and the bottom of the 4x3 picture to stretch it out into a widescreen image for DVD. I hate this as much as I hated when they'd cut off the sides of a real widescreen picture to fit it onto a 4x3 screen of old.

I don't have a widescreen TV, the TV's I have are the old school type with the square 4x3 picture screen. So any widescreen movies that's been re-formatted to fullscreen is good with me. Some people have told me that part of the picture is lost when re-formatting from widescreen to fullscreen, but that's never bothered me, I just want to see a full picture on my TV screen. :lol:

You gotta get with the times and get a widescreen TV, esp. nowadays, they've REALLY gone down in price compared to what they were just a couple years ago. I got a widescreen TV some years ago cause when laser discs came out so I could see widescreen movies on them and not have the picture look like a strip of tape across the screen. I still have one old school square tube TV, a "big" 25" one in my bedroom now, it used to be 25 years ago in the living room, I never watch TV in the bedroom though so it's never used anymore. Trouble is these old tube TVs NEVER die, you almost have to just throw it away if you want to see your shows and movies on a beautiful giant flat screen TV. But these 40" flat screens that just a few years back cost a small fortune are now $100 to $200. I recently saw in Best Buy a really impressive 85" TV! WOW, that was really big. Now that one is still too new to buy, it's like $3000, but I bet in a few years the price will come down.

I guess I need to break down and get one, too--I still have the old tube TV. And all this stuff they do with these pictures now drives me up the wall.

Black bars every which way, squeezed picture, letterbox, aspect ratio off. Seems like the only normal picture for me is on Antenna TV or DVD sets.

Actually, other than being badly edited, those Odyssey DVDs of M3S S12 don't look too bad, in their nice, normal standard definition.

I guess I'm strictly from the old school when it comes to technology. The only way I would get a widescreen TV is if I absolutely had to and didn't have another choice. I prefer vinyl records over CD's, also prefer VHS over DVD, although I will say that CD's and DVD's do have their advantages. I don't have a cell phone, I hate those things, I have a land line phone and that's good enough for me. It might be 2018 but I live as if it's still 1975. :lol:

I could have written that post. It sounds just like me.

Probably the most important technology advancement during recent times is the advent of the internet. It has become such an important part of daily life, I don't know if I could live now without a computer and internet access. Most of my shopping and purchases are done on line.

Speaking of computers, I still have a DOS computer, bought it in 1990, it runs fine and I have a NBA basketball simulation game on it that I like to play. I hope the computer continues working because if it breaks down and not able to be fixed I would go nuts not being able to play that game.

Having a working 1990 computer is kind of like having a working Beta VCR (and some people have those too!).

I'm relatively new to the home computer world. I used to do all my computer stuff on breaks at work.

Having a working 1990 computer is kind of like having a working Beta VCR (and some people have those too!).

I'm relatively new to the home computer world. I used to do all my computer stuff on breaks at work.

Well, guys, we can form a club, I also ONLY have land line phones & further they are the exact same phones as Rob & Laura Petrie used and that That Girl used in the 1970 episodes (the original push button phone that looked like a '60's phone except it had push buttons). I've never owned a cell phone and wouldn't want one, I like my freedom when I'm on the road and the last thing I need is the phone ringing interrupting my music time in the car. The dialing phones of the '60's are called 500 phones, the push button version is called, I believe, a 2500, I use one 2500 for when I need to call a business that require you to communicate by push button, but my other 2 phones are the great old dialing Hazel style phones. I even bought a blue one to match the kind Mr. B had in their living room. I also made my own version of a "2 Tone Phone" using a black and red phone
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And never owned a computer till 2012. BUT, as far as entertainment technology, I was first on the scene (in some cases to my regret) I bought a laser disc player, a beta recorder, 8 track player, cassettes in the late '60's and had a 40" projector screen TV back in the '80's (that was all there was in the way of big screens back then). So as far as audio or visual entertainment I'm in front. Everywhere else, it's retro city, still stylin' in my high heel boots too.:D

I can't believe the 3 people in this country who don't have a cell phones happened to meet here. (And I take constant ribbing about not having one!)

If you have a working Beta recorder, you have my admiration. I have old Beta tapes and am debating buying one from Amazon. I've been putting it off because they're very expensive. I did have to join the modern world and get a DVD recorder in 2005--now those are relics too, I guess.

Oh, I have a WE 2500 Touch Tone set...red...cool! I also have a couple of wall models...2550 or something like that. One of those is blue.

Sorry, this is pretty far afield...MeTV had another heavily edited M3S episode today, "Alfred." It tracked almost identical to the Odyssey version. ...heavily edited. A couple of Dodie's friends were in the cast but weren't in the edited version. From all I'm hearing from other posters I really wish I had rolled the VHS machine back in the 80s and 90s and had recorded these episodes from Nick at Nite! At the time, I really did not know how rare they were...I do remember watching them...they aired them right after season 5 ended...Ernie was 10, then he was 17 on the next episode, and Chip was married.

I had considered getting a cell phone as a back up in case my land line service ever gets temporarily interrupted, but it would just be another monthly bill to pay and land line service is usually pretty reliable. Cell phone, iphone, smartphone, whatever they call those crazy things nowadays. :crazy: And they aren't just phones, you can access the internet with them, you can text message people, you can take photos with it, many people love it but no thanks I don't want one. I prefer living like it's still 1975 aside from a few modern things like computer, internet, CD's and DVD's. ;) :)

That's too bad if MeTV is airing heavily edited M3S episodes. These retro channels have all gone downhill, Antenna TV is probably the best one currently but they are far from perfect as their shows are edited also and they have their infamous credit crunches. One feather in Antenna TV's cap is that they still televise their shows in fullscreen. Antenna TV is a good channel for older sitcoms because that's basically all they have, there are no depressing dramas or dull westerns clogging up the schedule. And Antenna also has Johnny Carson for those who want to revisit that.

I went into cell phones very reluctantly several years ago, but now that my monthly landline bill keeps creeping up with increasing fees, I'll soon be going cell only. But no texting or video or net access, etc. -- just a flip phone, like other out-of-date holdouts.

I have one flatscreen TV, not particularly big, and also one tube-style TV -- a newer one, with a digital tuner.

I keep expecting "My Three Sons" to pop up on CBS' paid streaming service, CBS All Access. I'm not a subscriber, but they have all the seasons of Perry Mason and Hawaii Five-O (the original, of course) there.

If they were to do that, they'd have to remaster these seasons. They're being aired on MeTV, of course, but they're really below par for broadcast. MeTV wanted to air them, and they did the best they could.

If I had been MeTV, I would have checked with the Library of Congress. Any copyrighted program is supposedly archived there.

If you have a working Beta recorder, you have my admiration. I have old Beta tapes and am debating buying one from Amazon. I've been putting it off because they're very expensive. I did have to join the modern world and get a DVD recorder in 2005--now those are relics too, I guess.

I think my brother's old Sony Betamax from circa 1984 still runs. That reminds me that I should take any old tapes and at least fast-forward them, to prevent sticking of the tape.

You should stick with your 2005 DVD machine -- I have a JVC player from 2003/2004 and it's superior to a much later Samsung. The Samsung could not handle the audio correctly on an inexpensive DVD, while the JVC equalized that same DVD with no problem...!

I think 2005 was the first year you could buy a DVD recorder, I think either 2005 or possibly 2004 was when I first bought a DVD recorder. The shame of it all is that now (in the U.S. at least) you can't buy a new DVD recorder!

Thanks to studio and copyright storm troopers they've put out the order to not sell anything enabling the average citizen from making their own copy of something. You're supposed to sit back and wait forever for the all knowing original copyright owners to piece-meal out their material for sale. Of course, the only problem with this master plan is they would rather keep the materials we would gladly buy locked up stored in warehouses. Example, My 3 Sons seasons 3 to 12, in the warehouse, not ever to be in your unworthy hands to enjoy.

Fortunately Japan still retains their freedom to sell what the people want, let's all take a joint trip to Japan and buy us a new DVD recorder too.

As for Beta, I had so many beta tapes and no working beta machine to play them on for so long, I finally went to ebay and bought a still working Sony Beta machine. Still works too, I transferred some of my Beta tapes that aren't shown anywhere anymore onto DVD with my still handy dandy DVD recorder. :D

As for DVD players, my advice would be (if you can find one, they're hard to locate now) is to buy a Philips brand DVD player, they'll play just about any disc you put in them. I've had many experiences with my main DVD player (a Sony player) where a disc when put in won't play ("Cannot Read Disc" is the standard, oh so often, Sony player message) BUT when I put the very same disc in the Philips player, Bingo, no problem, disc plays just fine.

Used to see Philips players everywhere, now they seem to have disappeared, though I have seen Philips Blu ray players (which will also play DVDs) available for sale in stores. But as long as I have my Philips DVD players I still refuse to buy a Blu Ray player. I refuse to re-purchase everything all over again again just to suit another never ending format change.:mad:

I really like my Panasonic DVD Recorder, but it's also picky on playing DVDs. I have a newer Toshiba, and it will play anything.

I really need to go on Ebay and buy a Beta VCR. I could kick myself for not having a 1980s Betamax repaired. I, too, have a lot of Beta tapes that I can't play.

That's what I have, Panasonic DVD recorder, also bought a Magnavox DVD recorder the last minute just before they were banned forevermore from everywhere in the US. I remember going back to Walmart to get another Magnavox recorder but they were gone, never to be seen again.:(

But as for playing DVDs, I hate to waste my valuable DVD recorder motor just playing DVDs, I only use my Sony or Philips DVD players when playing back a DVD, I reserve my DVD recorders only for recording, don't want to force them to work any more overtime than they are already now working in my still daily recordings. I'd buy a Philips DVD player or even a cheapie DVD player and use that to play DVDs and save your Panasonic for recording only.:talk: This is just my advice, take it or leave it.

My DVD recorder of choice is the Pioneer DVR series from around 2004. It is not a DVR, like what you have with cable or satellite, though. My first one was purchased brand new. I have since purchased several more off Ebay when I can get a good deal. It makes nice menu's and I know how to operate it, which was a plus for me with not having to learn how to operate a different one, and I have the remote which is often not included. I have had less than 10 coasters total in all the years and the various ones I have purchased.

Yes, Philips is the best DVD player for not having issues. Another is an old Apex. I have found Philips' at our local Goodwill for less than $10 and buy them up as I see them. I got a new "older" Apex on Ebay. Sometimes, I can even copy DVD's that you wouldn't think you could copy. I also buy up Sony VCR's when I see them.

I have a Beta player, but am afraid to use it as it ate a tape one time and I don't want to risk it eating something valuable.

No comment on my iPhone, HD TV, tablet, desktop, laptop, etc. I am not techy at all, but I would be lost without every one of them.

That's what I have, Panasonic DVD recorder, also bought a Magnavox DVD recorder the last minute just before they were banned forevermore from everywhere in the US. I remember going back to Walmart to get another Magnavox recorder but they were gone, never to be seen again.:(

But as for playing DVDs, I hate to waste my valuable DVD recorder motor just playing DVDs, I only use my Sony or Philips DVD players when playing back a DVD, I reserve my DVD recorders only for recording, don't want to force them to work any more overtime than they are already now working in my still daily recordings. I'd buy a Philips DVD player or even a cheapie DVD player and use that to play DVDs and save your Panasonic for recording only.:talk: This is just my advice, take it or leave it.

I usually do not use the Panasonic to play DVDs--that's good advice. But on the few occasions I did, it seems to be very picky. I normally use the Toshiba for that.

I also have a very old Sony DVD player, and it'll play anything and everything, also.

I never had a Beta machine, the first VCR I bought was in 1981, it was a top loader General Electric brand, nice machine but sadly I decided to let it go a few years ago because the inner workings of the machine broke down and it wasn't able to play tapes anymore.

Those VCR's from the early and mid 1980's were heavy machines and they weighed a lot. Then as the 1990's came along VCR's weren't as heavy anymore, manufacturers made them lighter.

I have two Panasonic VCR's still unopened inside the boxes in case I ever need them. The main VCR that I currently use is a Panasonic four head unit, good machine and it gives a nice image on my TV screen, the four heads make a difference. I also have a Toshiba VCR/DVD combo deck, it records both ways, VHS to DVD and DVD to VHS, but the VCR in the Toshiba unit only has two heads so I seldom use it. So when I transfer stuff from VHS to DVD, I connect the Panasonic VCR to the Toshiba unit and play the tapes thru the Panasonic VCR instead since it has four heads and provides a sharper image. And in instances when I want to transfer from DVD to VHS, I play the DVD in the Toshiba unit and record to VHS using the Panasonic VCR.

My VCR is also a Panasonic--I've had it since the 1990s. It's never eaten a tape--I've always had luck with Panasonic.

And in instances when I want to transfer from DVD to VHS, I play the DVD in the Toshiba unit and record to VHS using the Panasonic VCR.

Coincidentally, like you and stevea, my VCR is also a Panasonic. I did a lot of transfers from a DVD (JVC player) to VHS around 2005, to give to friends, and those 2 machines still serve me well.

Just saw there is a DVD release coming for the show everyone is clamoring for, I Married Joan, but still no more M3S.

Years ago on this site, there used to be a healthy trading group. As a matter of fact, I traded for all the color seasons of MTS on DVD from someone here and still have them. The quality was decent and I think most were recorded from KONG TV channel 6/16 out of the state of Washington. Thinking that had to have been 15 years ago when I got those.

I could have written that post. It sounds just like me.

Well I still have my 1977 12 inch Zenith black and white TV that I use on occasion to watch some of the old black and white TV shows from MeTV and Antenna TV....:wave:

On shows like Storage Wars, the buyers routinely say that the older TVs they find have no value -- but as you've indicated, they can be great for playing recorded media (including music CDs).