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icecream 05-29-2018, 02:02 PM Good riddance! I never thought it would happen with the big ratings Roseanne pulled though. I hope Speechless can get upgraded to Tuesdays at 8:00 now, would be nice watching it and The Kids Are Alright back-to-back.
http://tvline.com/2018/05/29/roseanne-cancelled-season-11-racist-tweet-controversy-abc/
Wawwie 05-29-2018, 02:14 PM I'm wondering why this thread isn't on the Roseanne board.
However, I'm glad that "Roseanne" was cancelled. The show was unrealistic, out of character, depressing and unfunny.
icecream 05-29-2018, 02:19 PM I'm wondering why this thread isn't on the Roseanne board.
However, I'm glad that "Roseanne" was cancelled. The show was unrealistic, out of character, depressing and unfunny.I put it here (General Sitcoms) because I was not going to put good riddance on the board for its fans. It might still get moved there by moderators though.
stevea 05-29-2018, 02:19 PM Bring back The Middle.
I saw an episode of this with my dad because he wanted to watch, and it just wasn't even that funny at all. He was the only person laughing in the room.
There's also this to consider as well.
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/roseanne-season-finale-ratings-the-middle-series-finale-1202819684/
Merry24 05-29-2018, 02:44 PM I wonder if TVLAND and other channels will pull her show.
P.S. lol! I agree bring back the middle.
I wonder if Laff will pull the show also come to think of it.
icecream 05-29-2018, 02:53 PM I wonder if Laff will pull the show also come to think of it.Home Improvement would make a great replacement when it comes in the fall.
Steal from the past.
Kill Roseanne and change the name to Roseanne's Family. Then eventually The Conner Family.
Home Improvement would make a great replacement when it comes in the fall.
But say if the show got pulled right away, what would replace it?
icecream 05-29-2018, 02:54 PM As for The Middle, from what I have heard ABC would have brought the show back but Patricia Heaton and the cast and crew were ready to move on. Sad though, one more season and it would have outlasted Everybody Loves Raymond.
icecream 05-29-2018, 02:55 PM But say if the show got pulled right away, what would replace it?maybe Night Court
maybe Night Court
Night Court would get moved to night for once and maybe Home Improvement will go in NC's old time slot.
stevea 05-29-2018, 03:06 PM As for The Middle, from what I have heard ABC would have brought the show back but Patricia Heaton and the cast and crew were ready to move on. Sad though, one more season and it would have outlasted Everybody Loves Raymond.
I read a quote from one of the writers, or a producer, somewhere, that they had many more stories to tell. A renewal would be problematic, having had a finale already--but that didn't stop Roseanne.
I would imagine those new Roseannes will become super rare. I assume ABC will even ditch the reruns.
Merry24 05-29-2018, 03:16 PM Yes as much as I would love the middle to return. They ended the show perfectly. I respect the cast and crew of the middle knowing when it was time to end.
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 03:35 PM It's too bad because I liked it. It was just like a straight continuation of the original. But I think another network likely will pick it up. It wasn't like a reboot, it was just like Season 10 of Roseanne.
stevea 05-29-2018, 03:52 PM It's too bad because I liked it. It was just like a straight continuation of the original. But I think another network likely will pick it up. It wasn't like a reboot, it was just like Season 10 of Roseanne.
I had that thought to, but it's poison now. I'd bet no one will touch it.
I would wonder if it will even air tonight. We may see the plug totally pulled.
Wawwie 05-29-2018, 04:09 PM Yes as much as I would love the middle to return. They ended the show perfectly. I respect the cast and crew of the middle knowing when it was time to end.
It's always best to leave on a high note... like "Seinfeld." Jerry Seinfeld did the right thing and knew when it was time to go. That show was pure gold in its time. Everything about that show was perfect in the '90s, so a reboot/revival for a show like "Seinfeld" would just tarnish what was perfect.
Roseanne Barr should have left her show "Roseanne" in the past where it belongs.
tenter 05-29-2018, 05:55 PM http://deadline.com/2018/05/roseanne-pulled-viacom-cable-networks-tomorrow-1202399484/
Not sure which to post but Roseanne encores will be pulled from Viacom cable networks (TVLand, CMT, and Paramount network) starting tomorrow
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 05:59 PM http://deadline.com/2018/05/roseanne-pulled-viacom-cable-networks-tomorrow-1202399484/
Not sure which to post but Roseanne encores will be pulled from Viacom cable networks (TVLand, CMT, and Paramount network) starting tomorrow
And OTA network Laff is still airing it.
And OTA network Laff is still airing it.
That will be next I’m sure.
Merry24 05-29-2018, 06:16 PM According to the middle’s Facebook page two rerun episodes of the middle will air on ABC tonight May 29, 2018 Tuesday at 8pm & 830pm.
According to the middle’s Facebook page two rerun episodes of the middle will air on ABC tonight May 29, 2018 Tuesday at 8pm & 830pm.
So looks like Roseanne has been pulled already from reruns.
Why is the show still under Sitcoms Airing Tonight then?
Dale Key 05-29-2018, 06:28 PM The show was diet Roseanne all the way through. I enjoyed it, but it's not a big loss. What sucks is that the legacy of the terrific original series is forever tainted. It was a groundbreaking beast that tackled every issue under the sun with intense drama and hilarious comedy. Now it won't be shown in repeats ever again. I'll always have my dvds at least.
tlc38tlc38 05-29-2018, 06:30 PM The show was diet Roseanne all the way through. I enjoyed it, but it's not a big loss. What sucks is that the legacy of the terrific original series is forever tainted. It was a groundbreaking beast that tackled every issue under the sun with intense drama and hilarious comedy. Now it won't be shown in repeats ever again. I'll always have my dvds at least.
Yes it will. Give it a few months and it'll be back.
MikeLutton 05-29-2018, 06:32 PM even talked about re doing it with roseanne on there
Yes it will. Give it a few months and it'll be back.
You think the show will return?
(Sorry for me asking so many questions, I apologize for that)
Merry24 05-29-2018, 06:38 PM Laff has now also pulled Roseanne.
Laff has now also pulled Roseanne.
What?! How did you find out this?
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 06:42 PM Laff has now also pulled Roseanne.
It's still on their website, and other TV listings sites. What's on instead?
It's still on their website, and other TV listings sites. What's on instead?
Laff has gotten rid of the Roseanne video on their site and replaced it with this:
Merry24 05-29-2018, 06:44 PM I don’t know how to cut and paste just put in your google search Laff removes Roseanne and it should come up.Deadline is reporting it
It's still on their website, and other TV listings sites. What's on instead?
I have no idea to be honest with you.
Found the articles.
http://deadline.com/2018/05/roseanne-dropped-laff-schedule-roseanne-barr-comments-1202399508/
https://wtop.com/social-media/2018/05/the-latest-abc-cancels-roseanne-after-stars-racist-tweet/
https://www.multichannel.com/news/viacom-nets-to-pull-roseanne
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 06:47 PM I don’t know how to cut and paste just put in your google search Laff removes Roseanne and it should come up.Deadline is reporting it
Found it. Just don't see what's in its place.
MikeLutton 05-29-2018, 06:48 PM Night court going replace it i saw the schedule
Night court going replace it i saw the schedule
Any evidence?
Merry24 05-29-2018, 06:49 PM Sorry again for not being able to post it. All it says it’s being pulled for now but doesn’t say it’s replacement.
Sorry again for not being able to post it. All it says it’s being pulled for now but doesn’t say it’s replacement.
Apparently, it’s Night Court according to MikeL.
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 06:51 PM Night court going replace it i saw the schedule
Oh. Was hoping it'd be Empty Nest or 3rd Rock.
Oh. Was hoping it'd be Empty Nest or 3rd Rock.
3rd Rock would’ve been really nice to see.
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 06:57 PM 3rd Rock would’ve been really nice to see.
Never seen it, but would like to.
Just looked at the printable schedule and it is indeed NC.
Never seen it, but would like to.
I’m just happy that Night Court is FINALLY on at NIGHT for once.
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 07:01 PM I’m just happy that Night Court is FINALLY on at NIGHT for once.
It's been on at night before on Laff.
MikeLutton 05-29-2018, 07:01 PM http://www.laff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LAF-Website-EST-Grid-05-28-18-thru-07-29-18_1.pdf
3rd rock comes next month check it out.
http://www.laff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LAF-Website-EST-Grid-05-28-18-thru-07-29-18_1.pdf
3rd rock comes next month check it out.
Is anything else getting pulled though?
Svenfan1234 05-29-2018, 07:05 PM http://www.laff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LAF-Website-EST-Grid-05-28-18-thru-07-29-18_1.pdf
3rd rock comes next month check it out.
July 2nd nice.
July 2nd nice.
At last it’s coming.
MikeLutton 05-29-2018, 07:07 PM dont look like anything else being taken off just moved around a little bit
dont look like anything else being taken off just moved around a little bit
Oh that’s good.
Roseanne is still on the TV schedule.
MikeLutton 05-29-2018, 07:50 PM for now
Plater of Everything 05-29-2018, 07:58 PM July 2nd nice.
That's my birthday, so I hope the show is good.
I’m just happy that Night Court is FINALLY on at NIGHT for once.
Now they're putting the "Night" back in "Night Court"
That's my birthday, so I hope the show is good.
Now they're putting the "Night" back in "Night Court"
:D
ABC brought the hammer down so completely so fast there must have been other things going on behind the scenes. I mean, this hasn't been the first time (https://splinternews.com/the-praise-for-abcs-cancellation-of-roseanne-could-not-1826398592) that Roseanne Barr has said objectionable things through Twitter. So I'm not going to be one of those people who is going to immediately pat ABC (http://variety.com/2018/biz/columns/roseanne-barr-racist-tweet-abc-cancel-1202824441/) on the back.
Apparently, the first batch of shows went well, but the final four went off the rails production wise. Roseanne insisted that her children (her son Jake Pentland is in particular, allegedly a world class pain to deal with) be part of production and they caused many issues.
Roseanne is no longer on Laff’s website (schedule) anymore.https://s15.postimg.cc/a5sqhmeu3/577_E181_A-88_CD-4_C7_D-8_D4_D-_C77390436906.png
But it’s still on the XFINITY (Comcast) channel guide.
mikey0581 05-29-2018, 08:40 PM I wish they would bring back ellen and empty nest. Did they lose the rights?
Clayton Endicott III 05-29-2018, 08:41 PM Hi guys, longtime lurker. I really respect most of the posters on these boards which is why I've kept coming back. Grew up with 70s/80s sitcoms and I think I can speak with some perspective.
On to Roseanne...The moment she had her character support conservative values, she had a target on her back. Anyone who thinks different isn't fooling anyone.
Roseanne is not a conservative, and has been insulting groups associated with conservative values for a long time. But that's just fine according to Hollywood and the media because according to them conservatives are all stupid and evil.
Nobody complained when she compared the Israelis to Nazi Germany over their conflicts with Turkey. Nothing insensitive about that.
Nobody finds it insulting when a formerly white character in a book, movie or show is made black in the remake/modern version.
Nobody finds it insulting when a black comedian makes fun of white people.
But Black Americans are always treated differently by the liberal media. Anything that can remotely be interperated as being insensitive is not to be tolerated and anyone who sees things differently is automatically branded a racist and ostracized.
I am white, and I look like a monkey. It's not racist it's true. Some people, of all races are just ugly.
I find it funny that nobody ever found anything racist in Roseannes humor before her support of Trump. She just suddenly turned racist at age 65?
I can't watch ANYTHING on TV anymore because of the out of control political correctness. People should find racism insulting for moral reasons, but when you only find it insulting to cast people of a certain ethnicity in a negative light, but are fine when people of other ethnicities are treated THE SAME WAY, then you only find racism unacceptable for political reasons and not moral ones.
Yes, I understand history very well, and how things were once much different. But that doesn't excuse this level of social engineering. I don't think people should be treated differntly. And Hollywood shouldn't always speak to their audiences like they are five years old. Let Black actors play the bad guys sometimes. Seeing them in a negative light on TV sometimes isn't going to make everyone think they are all bad. Some of the best roles are the bad guy roles. Denying Black actors the chance to play bad guys is like a blue collar business not hiring them because they don't want to perpetuate a stereotypical image. It hurts Black actors, it doesn't help!
But at the end of the day, liberals only want to point the finger at others. Only white conservatives and people from the south and midwest can be racist. Funny, though it doesn't seem like there are a lot of interracial relationships in Hollywood though. Maybe Hollywood liberal elitists should point the finger at themselves sometimes. But we're not supposed to talk about REAL RACISM.
There could never be a show like All in the Family today, because it did show both sides. It did show that people on all sides of the issues were flawed, but yet had important things to say. That show wasn't a one sided politcal screed at all.
I am sure all of the journalists and posters criticizing Roseanne have never said anything that could be interpereted as being racist. We all have said hurtful things, we are not born perfect. But we grow, we mature. Still we are not perfect. I am just so sick of the holier-than-thou attitude of the media. Everyone is racist...except for them! You are not fooling anyone by denying it.
tenter 05-29-2018, 08:44 PM But it’s still on the XFINITY (Comcast) channel guide.
I believe they should update by tomorrow
I wish they would bring back ellen and empty nest. Did they lose the rights?
Probably. The contract most likely expired.
stevea 05-29-2018, 08:46 PM ABC brought the hammer down so completely so fast there must have been other things going on behind the scenes. I mean, this hasn't been the first time that Roseanne Barr has said objectionable things through Twitter. So I'm not going to be one of those people who is going to immediately pat ABC on the back.
Apparently, the first batch of shows went well, but the final four went off the rails production wise. Roseanne insisted that her children (her son Jake Pentland is in particular, allegedly a world class pain to deal with) be part of production and they caused many issues.
The only place you can see it now (for those of use who haven't cut the cord yet) is on-demand, and by tomorrow, that'll probably be gone, too.
mikey0581 05-29-2018, 08:48 PM ya it takes awhile on cable packages to change
mikey0581 05-29-2018, 08:49 PM Probably. The contract most likely expired.
That sucks. As far as I know they don't air anywhere else.
ya it takes awhile on cable packages to change
How long though? I wonder if it will be gone by tomorrow.
That sucks. As far as I know they don't air anywhere else.
You can probably find it online somewhere.
MikeLutton 05-29-2018, 09:15 PM if u mean cosby show check tv one
if u mean cosby show check tv one
Is it gone?
The only place you can see it now (for those of use who haven't cut the cord yet) is on-demand, and by tomorrow, that'll probably be gone, too.
http://www.goojara.ch/toW9pg (original)
http://www.goojara.ch/tEw6b0
http://putlocker.io/search-movies/roseanne.html
https://www5.fmovies.se/search?keyword=roseanne
Yong Fang 05-29-2018, 10:07 PM I for one enjoyed the new show very much and was looking forward to the new season. The show was also a huge hit in the ratings, so a lot of people enjoyed the revival also.
The show was canned because Roseanne insulted somebody. Most of us viewers couldn't care less. I think we the viewers are being punished. I think John Goodman is being punished as well as the rest of the cast of the show. This will cost Roseanne Barr who knows how many millions of dollars. For insulting someone.
This is one of the very few shows I liked, so now there is one less.
stevea 05-29-2018, 11:11 PM I was watching the 4th episode on On-Demand, and was going to watch the 5th, and by then they had totally yanked it.
icecream 05-29-2018, 11:18 PM ABC brought the hammer down so completely so fast there must have been other things going on behind the scenes. I mean, this hasn't been the first time (https://splinternews.com/the-praise-for-abcs-cancellation-of-roseanne-could-not-1826398592) that Roseanne Barr has said objectionable things through Twitter. So I'm not going to be one of those people who is going to immediately pat ABC (http://variety.com/2018/biz/columns/roseanne-barr-racist-tweet-abc-cancel-1202824441/) on the back.
Apparently, the first batch of shows went well, but the final four went off the rails production wise. Roseanne insisted that her children (her son Jake Pentland is in particular, allegedly a world class pain to deal with) be part of production and they caused many issues.I am just glad this awful show is gone for good now. And I have thought Roseanne was a despicable person long before today's comments (or even before Twitter became common). Now my opinion is all of a sudden becoming a lot more popular. :D
I am just glad this awful show is gone for good now. And I have thought Roseanne was a despicable person long before today's comments (or even before Twitter became common). Now my opinion is all of a sudden becoming a lot more popular. :D
I'm not necessarily defending or rationalizing for Roseanne, but the fact of the matter is that she has always had a reputation for being irreverent, edgy, provocative, and dare I say, a "loose cannon". Remember the big brouhaha over her singing the "Star Spangled Banner"? So in some respects, I'm not that surprised that it eventually came to pass this way. Maybe Roseanne thought that embracing Trump supporters and telling their story also meant embracing their love for any and everything that's “non-PC.“ Unfortunately, for Roseanne and the like, there’s a difference from having a conservative viewpoint and attacking (even if it was on the surface meant to be a "joke") someone’s race in such a mean spirited, vicious way.
Impressions 05-30-2018, 12:59 AM I'm gonna be honest. This is kinda bittersweet. It was fun seeing the show in the 21st century, with the original cast, set, and supporting characters, but the reboot just wasn't that great. It was agenda driven, had terrible jokes aimed at Muslims' expense, and the scenario just all around felt contrived to drive some political commentary home, whether or not the plot or characters made sense doing them. At least the original was subtle. This just felt like politics on blast. I'm not sure how a season 11 would be any better.
And ABC did right to cancel the show. I just can't imagine them trying to work with Roseanne Barr again for another season anyway, who is just an all-around PR nightmare because she spews racist alt-right hate from her Twitter feed. It wouldn't have lasted that long in the first place. I kinda wonder now why it took them this long to realize these were the circumstances and person they'd be dealing with.
I highly doubt another network or streaming service will pick it up where it left off, even without Roseanne. I mean, it could happen like it did with The Hogan Family, but Roseanne was so iconically part of that show, I doubt it'd work.
Edward216 05-30-2018, 01:29 AM I can't believe anyone's surprised they cancelled Roseanne after she proved once again what a hateful witch she really is. I'm so sick and tired of these useless celebrities getting in trouble for the stupid things they say and then always claiming it was just a joke like that's supposed to excuse everything. I for one am glad they cancelled the show. But then I'll never understand why they brought back that piece of garbage show in the first place.
Ed.
icecream 05-30-2018, 01:51 AM I can't believe anyone's surprised they cancelled Roseanne after she proved once again what a hateful witch she really is. I'm so sick and tired of these useless celebrities getting in trouble for the stupid things they say and then always claiming it was just a joke like that's supposed to excuse everything. I for one am glad they cancelled the show. But then I'll never understand why they brought back that piece of garbage show in the first place.
Ed.The surprise here is Roseanne came back as a smash hit and was TV's highest rated show in the 18-49 demo most weeks it was new. Shows with hit ratings like that don't usually get cancelled unless it is a planned final season, especially with ABC's fall schedule recently released. I agree Roseanne is an all around hateful nasty person, but she has always been like that since the show's original run in the 90s. That did not get her any repercussions until now though.
storrs19 05-30-2018, 02:03 AM I wonder if Laff will pull the show also come to think of it.
I think Ladd did as I saw Grace Under Fire from 1 to 2am Eastern time.
I am just glad this awful show is gone for good now. And I have thought Roseanne was a despicable person long before today's comments (or even before Twitter became common). Now my opinion is all of a sudden becoming a lot more popular. :D
Not a fan of the revival I’m assuming? Or just the show in general?
I believe they should update by tomorrow
It’s still Roseanne at the moment. Just checked it.
icecream 05-30-2018, 06:24 AM Not a fan of the revival I’m assuming? Or just the show in general?the show in general, but especially Roseanne the person
the show in general, but especially Roseanne the person
I don’t blame you at all.
It's been on at night before on Laff.
But just not in a long time.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-cast-and-crew-in-shock-as-roseanne-barr-apologizes-for-cancellation-exclusive/ar-AAy0qfm?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/stars-react-to-roseannes-cancellation/ss-AAxZGpN?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-trashes-former-cast-members-%e2%80%98you-throw-me-under-the-bus%e2%80%99/ar-AAy1fEX?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
KatieAnn 05-30-2018, 11:17 AM I liked Roseanne's show. It certainly wasn't as good as the original, but it was nice to revisit the family and see where they were in 2018.
She had to know that her tweet would cause an uproar. I think she thought she was untouchable and could say anything. I wonder if she thought that as a "comedian" people would just consider what she said to be a "joke" the same way Kathy Griffin thought that picture of her holding Trump's severed head would be taken as a "joke."
icecream 05-30-2018, 12:24 PM And the circus continues.
http://tvline.com/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-ambien-racist-joke-twitter-controversy/
I love Charlie Sheen's reaction on Twitter:
adios Roseanne! good riddance. hashtag NOT Winning. the runway is now clear for OUR reboot. © #CharlieHarperReturns pic.twitter.com/HcqMvIo…
Now there's a reboot I would definitely watch. By comparison, the man is a saint!
And the circus continues.
http://tvline.com/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-ambien-racist-joke-twitter-controversy/
Sounds like she’s just giving another excuse.
bigg300 05-30-2018, 01:00 PM I understand the cancellation of
Roseanne,but I can't believe that Show Executives would cancel the Show! They stand to lose millions of dollars,the disruption of loyal employees and other supporters lives because of the stupidity of one person. The Show is a success. How often do you send successful shows down the drain? This is Executive decisions? Roseanne can easily be replaced with someone such as Melissa McCarthy for instance. If worried about the stigma of the Show name "Roseeanne", change the name. The rest of the shows plot is intact. If I was a Show "Excutive" I would take the chance. I wonder how many show viewers would like to see some one such as Melissa in that role. Excutives?
tenter 05-30-2018, 03:17 PM With Viacom networks pulling Roseanne:
TVLand replaced it with another couple airings of The New Adventures of Old Christine overnights, CMT replaced it with Full House with Reba getting more slots, Paramount replaced it with Two and Half men.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/roseanne-barr%e2%80%8f-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-not-a-racist-i-never-was-and-i-never-will-be%E2%80%99/ar-AAy1Zdx?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/whoopi-goldberg-slams-roseanne-barr-for-retweeting-horrific-altered-photo-of-her-on-twitter/ar-AAy2a0h?li=BBnb4R7&ocid=iehp
Roseanne executive producer recalls the "shock" of learning of cancelation on the first day working on Season 2 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-canceled-inside-writers-rooms-reaction-1115654)
Dave Caplan says "there was a lot of bittersweet hellos — and a couple hours later, a lot of very difficult goodbyes." He says the writing staff first learned about the cancelation via the media. "Everybody is still in shock at how quickly this all went down," he says. "It's unfortunate because the writers did pass on other jobs to take this job and nobody really knows yet what kind of compensation they're going to get. Everybody is a little bit on edge about how it's going to turn out. But we all know it's a wasted opportunity to write more episodes."
ALSO:
ABC president apologizes to Roseanne's now-unemployed staff (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/abcs-ben-sherwood-apologizes-roseannes-now-unemployed-staff-company-memo-1115820): "We're so sorry they were swept up in all of this and we give thanks to their remarkable talents, wish them well and hope to find another way to work together down the road."
Roseanne Barr tweets "I’m not a racist. I never was & I never will be" before retweeting an anti-Valerie Jarrett Wikileaks document dump (http://deadline.com/2018/05/roseanne-not-racist-valerie-jarrett-wikileaks-tweet-abc-cancel-1202400218/)
Dictionary searches for "racist" have skyrocketed in the past 24 hours (https://www.thedailybeast.com/roseanne-effect-dictionary-searches-for-racist-have-skyrocketed)
Ambien maker responds to Roseanne's Ambien defense: "racism is not a known side effect" (https://www.vox.com/2018/5/30/17408398/roseanne-ambien-racism-abc-twitter)
Mindy Kaling offers to "write things" for Laurie Metcalf and John Goodman (https://twitter.com/mindykaling/status/1001689030570971136)
Lena Dunham responds to Kaling's tweet, offering to do a spinoff "starring Darlene’s cool kids" (https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/1001834581706858496)
Whoopi Goldberg slams Roseanne for retweeting a fake anti-Trump meme about her (https://www.thedailybeast.com/whoopi-goes-off-on-roseanne-for-promoting-fake-meme-about-her)
From Jackie to Darlene to Jackie and Darlene: Five ways Roseanne could return without Roseanne Barr (http://tvline.com/gallery/roseanne-season-11-ideas-muslim-neighbors-spinoff-photos/#!1/roseanne-season-11-jackie/)
Jimmy Kimmel imagines a Roseanne-less Roseanne show that focuses on Dan Conner (http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/30/jimmy-kimmel-roseanne-cancellation/)
Why Roseanne can't carry on without Roseanne Barr: She'll undermine the show with her tweeting (http://www.showbiz411.com/2018/05/30/roseanne-cant-come-back-without-roseanne-or-on-fox-for-a-variety-of-reasons)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus responds to Roseanne with an Instagram picture with "my pal" Valerie Jarrett (https://www.instagram.com/p/BjYnohtBh57/)
Shonda Rhimes blasts Roseanne's Ambien defense, tells her to "#ownyouractions" (https://twitter.com/shondarhimes/status/1001845507294035968)
Bill Maher -- who also was canceled by ABC amid controversy -- gets caught in the Roseanne cancelation crossfire (https://newrepublic.com/minutes/148597/bill-maher-gets-caught-roseanne-barr-crossfire)
cnnbcbs 05-30-2018, 10:51 PM I understand the cancellation of
Roseanne,but I can't believe that Show Executives would cancel the Show! They stand to lose millions of dollars,the disruption of loyal employees and other supporters lives because of the stupidity of one person. The Show is a success. How often do you send successful shows down the drain? This is Executive decisions? Roseanne can easily be replaced with someone such as Melissa McCarthy for instance. If worried about the stigma of the Show name "Roseeanne", change the name. The rest of the shows plot is intact. If I was a Show "Excutive" I would take the chance. I wonder how many show viewers would like to see some one such as Melissa in that role. Excutives?
It wasn't show executives, it was the network and its parent company Disney.
cnnbcbs 05-30-2018, 10:53 PM Bring back The Middle.
Well, they're developing a spin-off for the daughter. It's in the planning stages, so it will probably make the air at mid-season at the earliest.
Yong Fang 05-31-2018, 06:30 AM My question would be if any of the other actors and staff have grounds for a lawsuit against Roseanne Barr. This is 1000 percent her fault. The show was a smash hit, and cost all the actors on the show literal millions if not tens of millions of dollars especially Melissa Gilbert (who I think had a piece of the show) and John Goodman (who is older now and not getting roles like he used to).
If I were one of the actors, I would sue Barr. Probably wouldn't succeed since ABC pulled the show and Barr has a First Amendment right. But she is negligent and should pay.
icecream 05-31-2018, 12:22 PM My question would be if any of the other actors and staff have grounds for a lawsuit against Roseanne Barr. This is 1000 percent her fault. The show was a smash hit, and cost all the actors on the show literal millions if not tens of millions of dollars especially Melissa Gilbert (who I think had a piece of the show) and John Goodman (who is older now and not getting roles like he used to).
If I were one of the actors, I would sue Barr. Probably wouldn't succeed since ABC pulled the show and Barr has a First Amendment right. But she is negligent and should pay.Sara Gilbert. Melissa is her sister who starred in Little House on the Prairie.
JamesG 05-31-2018, 12:55 PM I don't know how this works, but will Roseanne Barr still get money if they continue the show without her?
Would they have to change the name to "The Conners" or something like that and not call it "Roseanne"?
Wawwie 05-31-2018, 02:57 PM I don't know how this works, but will Roseanne Barr still get money if they continue the show without her?
Would they have to change the name to "The Conners" or something like that and not call it "Roseanne"?
It would be much more of a kick in the ass to Roseanne if the network killed off her character and continued the show without her, renaming it "The Conners" which was done with Valerie Harper's show back in the day when they renamed "Valerie" as "The Hogan Family."
I don't know how this works, but will Roseanne Barr still get money if they continue the show without her?
Would they have to change the name to "The Conners" or something like that and not call it "Roseanne"?
From what I've seen (no links, just stuff I've come across here and there), Roseanne Barr would still benefit greatly monetarily from the continuation of the show even without her.
Looks like Roseanne is now officially gone from the channel guide.
Regulus 05-31-2018, 04:17 PM Congratulations Ms Barr, your my number one candidate for my 2018 Butthead of the year award. puke:
From what I've seen (no links, just stuff I've come across here and there), Roseanne Barr would still benefit greatly monetarily from the continuation of the show even without her.
OK, here's a story that says she would benefit financially
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-abc-new-show-conners/
king of comedy 05-31-2018, 06:12 PM I'll miss everybody but her. Good Riddance!!! By the way, isn't she Jewish herself? That's sick to make fun of Hitler.
Impressions 05-31-2018, 07:10 PM OK, here's a story that says she would benefit financially
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-abc-new-show-conners/
The writer referred to them as The Bonners twice. I guess they need a new editor :lol:
I would still watch a spin-off, and I think they should do it sans-Roseanne.
Edward216 06-01-2018, 02:01 AM My question would be if any of the other actors and staff have grounds for a lawsuit against Roseanne Barr. This is 1000 percent her fault. The show was a smash hit, and cost all the actors on the show literal millions if not tens of millions of dollars especially Melissa Gilbert (who I think had a piece of the show) and John Goodman (who is older now and not getting roles like he used to).
If I were one of the actors, I would sue Barr. Probably wouldn't succeed since ABC pulled the show and Barr has a First Amendment right. But she is negligent and should pay.
If there was a lawsuit of any kind I seriously doubt John Goodman would get involved. His movie career has done all right and I'm sure he's made lots of money from that and isn't in any danger of ending up in the poor house LOL.
Ed.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-barr-return-possible-but-lesser-platform-likely/ar-AAy5SPI?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:03 AM I'm disgusted with both Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman for how quickly they turned on Roseanne in order to save their own skin. These people grew up with her and surely without a doubt knew 100% the way Roseanne thinks and talks. I'm also sure they've heard far worse than that tweet from her behind the scenes over the years.
Yet both took to Twitter a bit too quickly to publicly distance themselves from her. Roseanne gave them both their careers and this is how they repay her. I look at Sara Gilbert especially and can see there's an evil streak to that woman. In fact, I never liked her even in the original series.
She's probably already pitching to ABC how to continue the series without Roseanne.
KatieAnn 06-01-2018, 11:35 AM I'm disgusted with both Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman for how quickly they turned on Roseanne in order to save their own skin. These people grew up with her and surely without a doubt knew 100% the way Roseanne thinks and talks. I'm also sure they've heard far worse than that tweet from her behind the scenes over the years.
Yet both took to Twitter a bit too quickly to publicly distance themselves from her. Roseanne gave them both their careers and this is how they repay her. I look at Sara Gilbert especially and can see there's an evil streak to that woman. In fact, I never liked her even in the original series.
She's probably already pitching to ABC how to continue the series without Roseanne.
Sara was getting so much praise and credit for bringing the show back, that she probably felt she HAD to comment immediately.
This has become so complicated because there have been so many reveals, including the fact that Roseanne tweeted close to the same thing about someone else around 5 years ago, so ABC must have known her history and they didn't seem to have any problem bringing her back.
So far it's been Tom Arnold's comments that I think are kind of compassionate towards Roseanne, and he's the last person from Roseanne's life that I would have expected any sort of kindness.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:48 AM Sara was getting so much praise and credit for bringing the show back, that she probably felt she HAD to comment immediately.
This has become so complicated because there have been so many reveals, including the fact that Roseanne tweeted close to the same thing about someone else around 5 years ago, so ABC must have known her history and they didn't seem to have any problem bringing her back.
So far it's been Tom Arnold's comments that I think are kind of compassionate towards Roseanne, and he's the last person from Roseanne's life that I would have expected any sort of kindness.
I watched a You Tube video the other day where Sara Gilbert says she had to convince Roseanne to come back for the reboot because she wasn't too keen on going back to ABC and dealing with the studios again.
Gilbert stated she assured Roseanne that it would be her who dealt with the studio this time and convinced her to come back. I don't even think Roseanne really wanted to do this in the first place. It seems to have been all Gilbert's doing.
I was also reading Roseanne's Twitter feed yesterday to see any updates from her to this whole fiasco and one tweet stood out where she says "They won't stop till I die. I fear---pray for me!"
Makes me wonder if she's referring to Joan Rivers, who conveniently died just weeks after publicly making a disparaging comment about the Obamas. The "they" who she's referring to must be the same people.
And Tom Arnold is a pig so I too am surprised he didn't throw her under the bus along with Gilbert & Fishman.
RetroGuy2000 06-01-2018, 12:41 PM I'm disgusted with both Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman for how quickly they turned on Roseanne in order to save their own skin. These people grew up with her and surely without a doubt knew 100% the way Roseanne thinks and talks. I'm also sure they've heard far worse than that tweet from her behind the scenes over the years.
Yet both took to Twitter a bit too quickly to publicly distance themselves from her. Roseanne gave them both their careers and this is how they repay her. I look at Sara Gilbert especially and can see there's an evil streak to that woman. In fact, I never liked her even in the original series.
She's probably already pitching to ABC how to continue the series without Roseanne.
I don't think it's "evil" to distance yourself from racist comments. The fact of the matter is that a comment in private is very different than a comment on social media. Roseanne clearly doesn't know how to practice social media hygiene, and the rest of the cast absolutely needed to distance themselves from her public comments: they would be stupid not to do so.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 12:49 PM I don't think it's "evil" to distance yourself from racist comments. The fact of the matter is that a comment in private is very different than a comment on social media. Roseanne clearly doesn't know how to practice social media hygiene, and the rest of the cast absolutely needed to distance themselves from her public comments: they would be stupid not to do so.
It's the way Gilbert and Fishman did it that I find disgusting. It seemed clear to me that they were so severe in their admonishment of her in order to protect their careers in Hollywood. John Goodman also made comments to media but was mature and diplomatic with his words. He neither praised nor admonished Roseanne for her actions. IMO he's much more intelligent and adult a person than those 2 self serving backstabbers.
RetroGuy2000 06-01-2018, 12:53 PM It's the way Gilbert and Fishman did it that I find disgusting. It seemed clear to me that they were so severe in their admonishment of her in order to protect their careers in Hollywood. John Goodman also made comments to media but was mature and diplomatic with his words. He neither praised nor admonished Roseanne for her actions. IMO he's much more intelligent and adult a person than those 2 self serving backstabbers.
I don't feel like they backstabbed her at all. I feel like she betrayed them with her comments. She had to know she was stirring the pot of controversy, and she's done so many times in the past. It even got to the point where her own children asked her to stay away from social media. She didn't listen, and as a result, she destroyed her own career, and cost everyone else on the show their jobs.
Michael and Sara and John and Laurie and Lecy aren't the backstabbers: Roseanne is.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 01:04 PM I don't feel like they backstabbed her at all. I feel like she betrayed them with her comments. She had to know she was stirring the pot of controversy, and she's done so many times in the past. It even got to the point where her own children asked her to stay away from social media. She didn't listen, and as a result, she destroyed her own career, and cost everyone else on the show their jobs.
Michael and Sara and John and Laurie and Lecy aren't the backstabbers: Roseanne is.
Yes, she has stirred the pot for decades with her words. And through the years she's said countless offensive things about people. This has always been Roseanne, and the people around her all those years knew and accepted this or else they would've disassociated from her long ago. Why now?!
Only when the torchbearers came out in droves against Roseanne did her circle turn on her. You can bet Gilbert & Fishman knew this was the way Roseanne was and for years apparently accepted this by working and associating with her. Otherwise why didn't they distance from her years ago?
They're out to save their own careers and kiss up to the New Hollywood while tossing Roseanne under the train. Goodman was the only one that made comments without being backstabbing to her. But he's older and made his millions and has nothing to lose and no one to kiss up to anymore. Good for him.
Gilbert & Fishman still need their paychecks from New Hollywood so have to stay in line.
Mr. Television 06-01-2018, 01:34 PM Yes, she has stirred the pot for decades with her words. And through the years she's said countless offensive things about people. This has always been Roseanne, and the people around her all those years knew and accepted this or else they would've disassociated from her long ago. Why now?!
Only when the torchbearers came out in droves against Roseanne did her circle turn on her. You can bet Gilbert & Fishman knew this was the way Roseanne was and for years apparently accepted this by working and associating with her. Otherwise why didn't they distance from her years ago?
They're out to save their own careers and kiss up to the New Hollywood while tossing Roseanne under the train. Goodman was the only one that made comments without being backstabbing to her. But he's older and made his millions and has nothing to lose and no one to kiss up to anymore. Good for him.
Gilbert & Fishman still need their paychecks from New Hollywood so have to stay in line.
Yea I agree. Roseanne has been like this for years. I was a fan of hers when the show came on back in 1988 but then she just got too far out there and the show slowly deteriorated so I stopped watching. They put up with her then and they knew what she was like. She was even doing crazy stuff when her show was off the air. It's just a different Hollywood now. I don't watch any of them anymore. Bunch of hypocrites.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-barr-says-she-begged-abc-to-let-her-make-amends-i-was-willing-to-do-anything/ar-AAy5uGz?ocid=iehp
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 02:02 PM Yea I agree. Roseanne has been like this for years. I was a fan of hers when the show came on back in 1988 but then she just got too far out there and the show slowly deteriorated so I stopped watching. They put up with her then and they knew what she was like. She was even doing crazy stuff when her show was off the air. It's just a different Hollywood now. I don't watch any of them anymore. Bunch of hypocrites.
Same here. For over 2 years now, i've only tuned into the classic channels. Nothing else plays on my television and I stopped movies as well. Modern Hollywood or "New Hollywood" as I call it is something I want no part of. Thank God for the 20th Century classics.
Roseanne just doesn't belong with hypocritical Hollywood and that's a good thing. They're all going to wind up eating their own and implode upon themselves eventually.
Jamey Greek 06-01-2018, 05:00 PM I'm gonna be honest. This is kinda bittersweet. It was fun seeing the show in the 21st century, with the original cast, set, and supporting characters, but the reboot just wasn't that great. It was agenda driven, had terrible jokes aimed at Muslims' expense, and the scenario just all around felt contrived to drive some political commentary home, whether or not the plot or characters made sense doing them. At least the original was subtle. This just felt like politics on blast. I'm not sure how a season 11 would be any better.
And ABC did right to cancel the show. I just can't imagine them trying to work with Roseanne Barr again for another season anyway, who is just an all-around PR nightmare because she spews racist alt-right hate from her Twitter feed. It wouldn't have lasted that long in the first place. I kinda wonder now why it took them this long to realize these were the circumstances and person they'd be dealing with.
I highly doubt another network or streaming service will pick it up where it left off, even without Roseanne. I mean, it could happen like it did with The Hogan Family, but Roseanne was so iconically part of that show, I doubt it'd work.
Season 11 would have been better since it was going to be more focused on family.
Wawwie 06-01-2018, 05:09 PM I'm disgusted with both Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman for how quickly they turned on Roseanne in order to save their own skin. These people grew up with her and surely without a doubt knew 100% the way Roseanne thinks and talks.
Seriously? They should have defended that crazy lunatic and stood by her after her stupid, racist comments cost them and everybody else their job? As for how they already knew how she talks.... yeah, so what's your point? Ever hear of the expression "the straw that broke the camels back"? Fat mouth Roseanne broke their backs and also the entire cast and crew.
Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman aren't the ones who did anything wrong.
RetroGuy2000 06-01-2018, 05:15 PM Seriously? They should have defended that crazy lunatic and stood by her after her stupid, racist comments cost them and everybody else their job? As for how they already knew how she talks.... yeah, so what's your point? Ever hear of the expression "the straw that broke the camels back"? Fat mouth Roseanne broke their backs and also the entire cast and crew.
Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman aren't the ones who did anything wrong.
Exactly.
This idea that somehow Sara and Michael should have stayed silent after Roseanne ruined her/their careers is crazy. You just don't go around calling black people "apes", and that has nothing to do with "New Hollywood". :lol:
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/01/abc-talking-roseanne-reboot-centered-sara-gilbert-character/
KatieAnn 06-01-2018, 05:51 PM I don't feel like they backstabbed her at all. I feel like she betrayed them with her comments. She had to know she was stirring the pot of controversy, and she's done so many times in the past. It even got to the point where her own children asked her to stay away from social media. She didn't listen, and as a result, she destroyed her own career, and cost everyone else on the show their jobs.
Michael and Sara and John and Laurie and Lecy aren't the backstabbers: Roseanne is.
Since the show came back people have been talking about Roseanne's comments on Twitter, comments she had been making for years. It's hard to believe that no one checked on all of that before offering Roseanne this new show. They must have known, and just didn't care, and then when the show had such immediate big success, they were thrilled, so they were happy to leave Roseanne's questionable past comments in the past.
It's very hard for me to believe that Roseanne didn't know what she was doing when she wrote that tweet. She's made excuses, she's apologized, she has been defiant, she's made herself a victim, she's all over the place. Either she's brilliant or she's broken, and needs help.
I don't blame anyone who was working with Roseanne for coming out and condemning what she said...and maybe they're doing it to salvage something for themselves. I haven't heard that Laurie made any comment, and John's comments didn't condemn Roseanne. I think they know her and feel that she's not a racist regardless of what she said, and they're reacting based on what they know about her, and not based on her tweets. I feel like they might know about Roseanne's issues on a deeper level and have wisely decided that they don't need to make a comment.
tlc38tlc38 06-01-2018, 05:59 PM Instead of saying "ape", why didn't she just say jackass?! Pick your words wisely or just stay off social media.
If you want to play the game, learn the rules, then learn how to cheat them to your advantage while still remaining in the game.
Instead of saying "ape", why didn't she just say jackass?! Pick your words wisely or just stay off social media.
If you're gonna play the game, learn the rules then learn how to cheat them and still remain in the game.
Whenever I don’t choose wise words, I think to myself next time, "Be careful what you say".
stevea 06-01-2018, 06:17 PM If you're going to go into that cess pool known as Twitter, pause and THINK before you hit that button. You can't take it back...you can delete it, but most often someone has seen it.
She may be a compulsive troll. Heaven knows, there are tons of them out there (and here).
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/roseanne-barr-cancels-scheduled-podcast-interview-shes-not-doing-well/ar-AAy7g8C?ocid=iehp
tlc38tlc38 06-01-2018, 07:15 PM Here's my question and I'm not asking this to be a smart ass, I really would like a legit answer.
If the term "ape" is offensive to African Americans then is it offensive that Roddy McDowall (a white man) wore "ape face" in Planet of the Apes?
If you're going to go into that cess pool known as Twitter, pause and THINK before you hit that button. You can't take it back...you can delete it, but most often someone has seen it.
She may be a compulsive troll. Heaven knows, there are tons of them out there (and here).
And here? You mean trolls on this forum?
RobMac 06-01-2018, 07:41 PM I need to vent about Roseanne Barr. I resent Roseanne for becoming the worst stereotype of the Trump supporter when her old persona and her sitcom character from its original run would have scoffed at the idea of electing Donald Trump POTUS. Because of her bile, people have already forgotten how groundbreaking ROSEANNE was when it debuted in 1988. A comedy that showed what being working class actually looked like, especially in the wake of the Reagan 80’s. When the show did tackle anything close to politics and social issues, it skewed progressive. It was well-written, had an outstanding support cast and, if Roseanne had retired when the original series ended, would be fondly remembered by audiences as a TV classic. Now when people think of ROSEANNE, they will only think of the hateful bigot who openly supports leaders who have set out to destroy the folks that Roseanne originally gave voice to. And that pisses me off to no end.
I also am pissed off at the right for defending her. And for using their favorite tactic, Whataboutism, to distract from the main point which is that Roseanne’s bigotry should never be tolerated. Ever. If any experienced Whatabouter wants to play that game with someone like Bill Maher, I will gladly point out that it was the Right that laid the ground work for the sponsor boycott that led to POLITICALLY INCORRECT’s cancellation after Bill’s comments about the 9/11 hijackers.
Last, but not least, I am angry with liberals. Especially the Hollywood liberals who celebrated ROSEANNE ‘s cancellation. I shed no tear for Roseanne Barr, but I shed a tear for Sara Gilbert who was instrumental in bringing the show back to TV. Yes, in the end it’s just a television show. But the reactions of everyone on both sides both angers and saddens me. I truly believed Gilbert’s motives were to show that both sides could talk to each other and, in the end could still find some common ground. The reaction to both the new show and its cancellation is yet another reminder that we, as a country have forgotten how to talk to each other without bludgeoning the other side. If we have forgotten that, then we are in worse trouble than I thought. Hell, if even finding common ground is a lost cause, then we are also a lost cause.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 07:53 PM Exactly.
This idea that somehow Sara and Michael should have stayed silent after Roseanne ruined her/their careers is crazy. You just don't go around calling black people "apes", and that has nothing to do with "New Hollywood". :lol:
This has nothing to do with blacks. The woman Roseanne referred to is not black. She's lily white. It's no different than Wanda Sykes---Roseanne's very own writer calling our president an orangutan in her vile comedy act. Bill Maher did the same as well.
I guess what's ok for the liberal isn't ok for the conservative.
Jamey Greek 06-01-2018, 08:48 PM This is also hypocrisy of ABC. They condemn her actions yet sideline an episode of blackish about police brutality and kneeling for the flag.
Wawwie 06-01-2018, 08:54 PM This has nothing to do with blacks. The woman Roseanne referred to is not black. She's lily white. It's no different than Wanda Sykes---Roseanne's very own writer calling our president an orangutan in her vile comedy act. Bill Maher did the same as well.
I guess what's ok for the liberal isn't ok for the conservative.
Calling Trump an orangutan is not disgracing an entire race. There is zero history of whites being compared to orangutans. Get with it. Trump is orange looking like buttered popcorn. Orangutans are also orange.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 09:04 PM Calling Trump an orangutan is not disgracing an entire race. There is zero history of whites being compared to orangutans. Get with it. Trump is orange looking like buttered popcorn. Orangutans are also orange.
Valerie Jarrett is NOT black. Roseanne didn't disgrace "an entire race". And yes there is history of whites being compared to the monkey family. Remember George W. Bush? Many times he was compared to a chimp. And rightfully so because he does look like one. Big whoop.
Wawwie 06-01-2018, 09:07 PM Valerie Jarrett is NOT black. Roseanne didn't disgrace "an entire race". And yes there is history of whites being compared to the monkey family. Remember George W. Bush? Many times he was compared to a chimp. And rightfully so because he does look like one. Big whoop.
Is your brain turned on?
George W. Bush is not the entire white race.
Put down the joint.
Oh, and yes, Valerie Jarrett is black.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 09:13 PM Is your brain turned on?
George W. Bush is not the entire white race.
Put down the joint.
Oh, and yes, Valerie Jarrett is black.
"entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.
And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.
I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
Wawwie 06-01-2018, 09:24 PM "entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.
And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.
I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
Excellent. Then you might not want to compare GW Bush to the white race being called monkeys. YOU are the one who made the comparison to GW Bush, not me, sweets. :)
stevea 06-01-2018, 09:42 PM And here? You mean trolls on this forum?
Sorry...there aren't tons of trolls here. Out of line comment.
PhoenixAcres 06-01-2018, 09:48 PM Occasionally we will get trolls but they are promptly banned. Props to the moderating team for that. :thumbsup:
Svenfan1234 06-01-2018, 10:09 PM Sorry...there aren't tons of trolls here. Out of line comment.
I mean, there are some cruel and insensitive jerks on here who don't care about trampling on other people's feelings and being general a-holes but thankfully there are only a couple of those and don't post frequently. I can't put up with those kinds of posters. And those are ones I wonder why they haven't been placed on suspension or permanent ban...
Svenfan1234 06-01-2018, 10:11 PM "entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.
And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.
I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
I wonder if that poster was on drugs...:crazy: :lol:
RetroGuy2000 06-01-2018, 10:12 PM Oh, and yes, Valerie Jarrett is black.
That's right.
Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, during the Pahlavi dynasty, to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara T. Bowman. Her parents are both African-American. On the television series Finding Your Roots, DNA testing indicated that Jarrett is of 49% European, 46% African, and 5% Native American descent.
Impressions 06-01-2018, 10:13 PM "entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.
And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.
I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
She was born in Iran, but that doesn't mean she isn't black. Both her parents are black. There was an episode of Finding Your Roots, which showed through DNA testing indicating that Jarrett is of 49% European, 46% African, and 5% Native American descent. So, yeah, she is black.
I don't even know why I'm talking about this because regardless if she was or wasn't black, she still was called an ape, which obviously was racially motivated.
Svenfan1234 06-01-2018, 10:19 PM My opinion is that while cancelling the show was inevitable, yanking the reruns off everywhere is the extreme. What about the other actors who are counting on the royalties from Roseanne in syndication? Nobody factors that in, but they should.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:02 PM I wonder if that poster was on drugs...:crazy: :lol:
Probably...but I put him/her on ignore so I never have to find out.
Svenfan1234 06-01-2018, 11:05 PM Probably...but I put him/her on ignore so I never have to find out.
One thing I'm very proud I did...I just saw it because you quoted it.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:23 PM One thing I'm very proud I did...I just saw it because you quoted it.
I had to because the discussion was veering to quickly into political/racial territory (I know due to the topic, it's kind of hard not to), but I come here to this sitcom place to escape all of that nonsense.
Perhaps I shouldn't have even posted my feelings on the whole Roseanne fiasco, but i've always been a fan of her and felt compelled to weigh in on it.
But once it gets too heated, it's time to back away. This is a fun place to come to and I want to keep it that way. :)
Svenfan1234 06-01-2018, 11:30 PM I had to because the discussion was veering to quickly into political/racial territory (I know due to the topic, it's kind of hard not to), but I come here to this sitcom place to escape all of that nonsense.
Perhaps I shouldn't have even posted my feelings on the whole Roseanne fiasco, but i've always been a fan of her and felt compelled to weigh in on it.
But once it gets too heated, it's time to back away. This is a fun place to come to and I want to keep it that way. :)
Yes, I totally agree. I'm for discussing, but when the discussion gets to a bashing frenzy , it's time to back out. Yes, it was racist. Yes, it was wrong. Can we just move on from that and enjoy the sitcom she was in before the tweets happened? I know I'd love to. It's getting ridiculous. It's a one-sided "am not, are too, am not" type of immature level of arguing that I don't ever want to be part of. And when you resort to putting words in other people's mouths...than you just lose friends. There's no other way to put it.
IllinoisTVFan 06-01-2018, 11:33 PM "entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.
And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.
I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
Actually, no. She was born in Iran to American parents who were African American.
IllinoisTVFan 06-01-2018, 11:38 PM Excellent. Then you might not want to compare GW Bush to the white race being called monkeys. YOU are the one who made the comparison to GW Bush, not me, sweets. :)
True story but in 2006 a coworker reported me for making a "racist" comment. I asked what I allegedly said and supposedly I called them monkeys. The idiot wasn't listening because in fact I was talking about a record store (Tower) going out of business and buying CDs and the TV series from the Monkees! The coworker was trying to start crap with me.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:41 PM Yes, I totally agree. I'm for discussing, but when the discussion gets to a bashing frenzy , it's time to back out. Yes, it was racist. Yes, it was wrong. Can we just move on from that and enjoy the sitcom she was in before the tweets happened? I know I'd love to. It's getting ridiculous. It's a one-sided "am not, are too, am not" type of immature level of arguing that I don't ever want to be part of. And when you resort to putting words in other people's mouths...than you just lose friends. There's no other way to put it.
Sadly, I think this whole debacle will wind up overshadowing her legacy and be what people will remember of Roseanne. It's really sad and unfair especially when most of Hollywood today is so hypocritical.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:46 PM Actually, no. She was born in Iran to American parents who were African American.
I stand corrected. I thought she was Iranian descent. I believe her mother was white. At least she appears to be in her pictures. But i'm not going to continue a racial discussion here.
Bottom line is yes I think what Roseanne tweeted was wrong, insulting and hurtful towards Ms. Jarrett. However, it's the hypocrisy blatantly being displayed by Hollywood and her peers I find despicable.
MRPITT 06-01-2018, 11:47 PM Roseanne’s legacy will be that she’s racist as well it should be. End of discussion. I am very happy she got pulled. If you want to watch the old show buy the dvds. The others will be okay. Likely gonna be a spinoff anyway. She got what she deserved.
RetroGuy2000 06-01-2018, 11:49 PM True story but in 2006 a coworker reported me for making a "racist" comment. I asked what I allegedly said and supposedly I called them monkeys. The idiot wasn't listening because in fact I was talking about a record store (Tower) going out of business and buying CDs and the TV series from the Monkees! The coworker was trying to start crap with me.
Wow, hope you were able to straighten that out.
cfr1970 06-01-2018, 11:50 PM Everything wawwie said is right. Roseanne’s legacy will be that she’s racist as well it should be. End of discussion.
Unless you're a moderator here, I don't believe you get to say when a discussion is ended. But thank you for sharing your opinion! :wave:
MRPITT 06-01-2018, 11:59 PM ABC really ended the discussion. They fired Roseanne. Haha Bye Rosenne! Don’t let the door hit in your big fat....
Let’s see ignoring cfrgirl. Buhbbye
Mr. Television 06-02-2018, 12:01 AM Sadly, I think this whole debacle will wind up overshadowing her legacy and be what people will remember of Roseanne. It's really sad and unfair especially when most of Hollywood today is so hypocritical.
Hollywood is just crazy right now. Every week a new celebrity is tossed to the wolves. I don't know what is true and what is not true but a lot of legacy's are getting ruined lately. Just hypocrisy out there. Don't know what the end result will be of Roseanne. She is who she always was. She shouldn't have made the post. I never understood why celebrities or anybody famous gets on a fight on Twitter. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Her show was groundbreaking and the first 5 or 6 years of it was great. I enjoyed the new version. I thought it was refreshing. A lot better than most of the sitcoms currently on TV. I was hoping it would bring a lot of new multi-comedies to the air because they were always my favorite.. Think it's stupid to pull the reruns of the classic show. Don't worry about Wawwie. He /She's been banned under a few names on here already and they keep coming back. I never pay attention to that poster. Bunch of hot air.
cfr1970 06-02-2018, 12:01 AM ABC really ended the discussion. They fired Roseanne. Haha Bye Rosenne! Don’t let the door hit in your big fat....
Added to ignore.
cfr1970 06-02-2018, 12:05 AM Hollywood is just crazy right now. Every week a new celebrity is tossed to the wolves. I don't know what is true and what is not true but a lot of legacy's are getting ruined lately. Just hypocrisy out there. Don't know what the end result will be of Roseanne. She is who she always was. She shouldn't have made the post. I never understood why celebrities or anybody famous gets on a fight on Twitter. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Her show was groundbreaking and the first 5 or 6 years of it was great. I enjoyed the new version. I thought it was refreshing. A lot better than most of the sitcoms currently on TV. I was hoping it would bring a lot of new multi-comedies to the air because they were always my favorite.. Think it's stupid to pull the reruns of the classic show. Don't worry about Wawwie. He /She's been banned under a few names on here already and they coming back. I never pay attention to that poster. Bunch of hot air.
You summed up current Hollywood nicely. They keep up like this they'll eventually implode. The hypocrisy and hate will be their downfall. Just look at current tv ratings for modern shows. It's all falling more each season. If it weren't for channels like Antenna TV and Get TV, i'd never even turn mine on anymore.
And the posters that get childish and insulting, I just ignore. It's so much easier than engaging with them.
TVLegend 06-08-2022, 03:25 PM Just bumping to mention that I watched an interview with Roseanne last night, (from maybe a year ago, or something like that) and my god, was the hypocrisy showing.
She went on about how no one wants to work with her anymore and how much she’s “not liked” ever since her show got cancelled, which is the most ridiculous bullsh*t I’ve ever heard. I can’t possibly fathom why people won’t speak to her no more. Could it be the fact that she compared someone to an ape, on Twitter? I mean, I don’t like Donald Trump, AT ALL, I’ve called him other names in the past like Donald Duck and fatass, but I wouldn’t go as far as comparing him to an ape (although I wouldn’t mind doing it on a dare), and on Twitter at that.
It seems she was angry and bitter at everyone else when her show was cancelled, but she has no one else but herself to blame. She claims “she thought the bitch (Valerie Jarrett) was white.” Well, Roseanne, if you don’t want people getting mad at you (and rightfully so, IMO), then don’t go on Twitter and call someone an ape.
I like Roseanne Conner from the original Roseanne series, and not the repulsive, brash, degenerate, and nasty Roseanne Barr.
Just bumping to mention that I watched an interview with Roseanne last night, (from maybe a year ago, or something like that) and my god, was the hypocrisy showing.
She went on about how no one wants to work with her anymore and how much she’s “not liked” ever since her show got cancelled, which is the most ridiculous bullsh*t I’ve ever heard. I can’t possibly fathom why people won’t speak to her no more. Could it be the fact that she compared someone to an ape, on Twitter? I mean, I don’t like Donald Trump, AT ALL, I’ve called him other names in the past like Donald Duck and fatass, but I wouldn’t go as far as comparing him to an ape (although I wouldn’t mind doing it on a dare), and on Twitter at that.
It seems she was angry and bitter at everyone else when her show was cancelled, but she has no one else but herself to blame. She claims “she thought the bitch (Valerie Jarrett) was white.” Well, Roseanne, if you don’t want people getting mad at you (and rightfully so, IMO), then don’t go on Twitter and call someone an ape.
I like Roseanne Conner from the original Roseanne series, and not the repulsive, brash, degenerate, and nasty Roseanne Barr.
If you think that's bad, you should hear her sing!
king of comedy 03-17-2023, 09:25 PM If you think that's bad, you should hear her sing!
I heard her sing and my ears bleed.
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