http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/bill-cosby-convicted-of-drugging-and-molesting-a-woman-in-first-big-celebrity-trial-of-supernumbermetoo-era/ar-AAwnQzw?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Well deserved.

I'm pretty sure he'll appeal, but meantime he's now a pariah. He had it made in the shade, why did he do what he did. "Family Values" has a black eye because of this.

Sad but with all those accusers there's not much doubt. I was not a big Cosby Show fan, but I liked the original Bill Cosby Show which I saw in reruns. I also loved his stand up and his public morality stances. I've probably mentioned here a few times that Bill used to come into my studio while making the Cosby Show and seemed to be a regular guy and we all liked him. What a stunner that he was behaving like that when we knew him.

Well deserved.

I agree.

Sad but with all those accusers there's not much doubt. I was not a big Cosby Show fan, but I liked the original Bill Cosby Show which I saw in reruns. I also loved his stand up and his public morality stances. I've probably mentioned here a few times that Bill used to come into my studio while making the Cosby Show and seemed to be a regular guy and we all liked him. What a stunner that he was behaving like that when we knew him.

One thing I liked about him was that he would bash all the baby daddies/baby mamas and said it was a disgrace. That took a lot of courage, especially when people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton attacked him.

Anyway, I am mixed. I do think in some of the cases he was guilty but not all cases.

well, I still believe he's innocent. "But laws are made by men, and they're not always right." William Conrad "THE FUGITIVE"

I'm pretty sure he'll appeal, but meantime he's now a pariah. He had it made in the shade, why did he do what he did. "Family Values" has a black eye because of this.

Even without this news, Bill Cosby (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/15-times-bill-cosby-was-a-huge-hypocrite-20150709) was already (https://www.theroot.com/bill-cosby-started-losing-black-people-before-the-rape-1790860457) a piece of work (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/07/how-bill-cosbys-2004-pound-cake-speech-exploded-into-his-latest-legal-disaster/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.88161b549aec) when you really get right down to it. His supposedly wise and insightful (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-bill-cosby-pound-cake-speech-20150708-story.html) "pound cake" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_Cake_speech) speech was nonsense (https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/04/how-cosbys-pound-cake-speech-helped-lead-to-his-downfall/559049/), because it presumed that every black kid who got shot by police was actually doing something wrong (https://www.laprogressive.com/bill-cosby/) to justify it. He also blamed (http://nationalpost.com/entertainment/celebrity/how-bill-cosbys-moralizing-backfired-famous-pound-cake-speech-used-to-justify-unsealing-records) school drop outs and black youth in jail to be exclusively caused by bad parenting (https://mic.com/articles/131589/what-bill-cosby-s-fall-means-for-black-people-in-america), without any consideration to school funding being piss poor or a legal system biased against poor blacks, who can't afford good legal representation.

well, I still believe he's innocent. "But laws are made by men, and they're not always right." William Conrad "THE FUGITIVE"
It's hard to believe that he's innocent, because of over 60 different women, telling, roughly, the same story. I could question one, maybe two. But over
60? That doesn't add up! The whole thing is very sad and sordid. And, now
someone is accusing Tom Brokaw, of inappropriate sexual behavior. Unbelievable!

It's hard to believe that he's innocent, because of over 60 different women, telling, roughly, the same story. I could question one, maybe two. But over
60? That doesn't add up! The whole thing is very sad and sordid. And, now
someone is accusing Tom Brokaw, of inappropriate sexual behavior. Unbelievable!
It is really getting hard to tell which ones are guilty and which aren't. It seems all it takes is an accusation to ruin somebody. I guess Hollywood's sins are coming home to roost because this has been going on in Hollywood for decades. As for Cosby he's one of the ones I'm sure is guilty. Just too many women coming forward.

Even without this news, Bill Cosby (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/15-times-bill-cosby-was-a-huge-hypocrite-20150709) was already (https://www.theroot.com/bill-cosby-started-losing-black-people-before-the-rape-1790860457) a piece of work (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/07/how-bill-cosbys-2004-pound-cake-speech-exploded-into-his-latest-legal-disaster/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.88161b549aec) when you really get right down to it. His supposedly wise and insightful (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-bill-cosby-pound-cake-speech-20150708-story.html) "pound cake" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_Cake_speech) speech was nonsense (https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/04/how-cosbys-pound-cake-speech-helped-lead-to-his-downfall/559049/), because it presumed that every black kid who got shot by police was actually doing something wrong (https://www.laprogressive.com/bill-cosby/) to justify it. He also blamed (http://nationalpost.com/entertainment/celebrity/how-bill-cosbys-moralizing-backfired-famous-pound-cake-speech-used-to-justify-unsealing-records) school drop outs and black youth in jail to be exclusively caused by bad parenting (https://mic.com/articles/131589/what-bill-cosby-s-fall-means-for-black-people-in-america), without any consideration to school funding being piss poor or a legal system biased against poor blacks, who can't afford good legal representation.


Despite that I think Bill Cosby is guilty of what he is accused of here, he was and is absolutely correct about black youth and their own failures. Funding for black schools may be lower than rich white schools, but is nevertheless at staggeringly high levels compared to the rest of the world. The number one problem in the black community is absentee fathers - homeys that make little black people and run away. That and that alone leads to poverty, crime, ignorance and misery, and you can blather all you want but there's no denying it.

I hate to admit this but Babalu is right. I lived in an area like that and the problem was absentee fathers. The fact is a child needs both parents and needs a financially secure house. When someone breeds kids they can't afford with someone around it leads to gang members. Btw, I saw white people like this as well and yep messed up kids. Btw, the reason many of these schools often get less funding is because they are often in areas with less income due to many people on assistance.

I do think he is guilty. I think some men are unfairly targeted but there are way too many who have come forward and he used to "joke" about drugging women. It's been an open secret for years but he never got arrested before due to clout. Now with Me Too no one is safe. Like I said upthread, I do think some lied for publicity though.

Well here is how I see it ! Bill Cosby pretty much had a sexual fetish called Necrophilia (having sex with dead women ) !! :eek: Google it for further information! Or if not to that extent close to it, a fetish of having sex with a woman who was VERY out of it!!! What he should have really done was paid prostitutes good money to take downers/tranquilizer type meds , in other words woman who would be in agreement to this!;)

He was a married famous man, very loved and good looking and personable. Besides his wife MANY women would have loved to sleep with him I'm sure.;) If he just wanted to fool around and have straight regular sex there would have been many women that would oblige ! But being he was into this kinky type of sex and it was back in the day he figured he would never be found out or caught ! But in the long run if he had gone the prostitute consensual rout with his fetish, it might have come to public light but he wouldn't be in the trouble he is in today with the rape charges !

Am I making sense ? I know what I mean, but maybe I'm not putting it in words right?:confused:

Well here is how I see it ! Bill Cosby pretty much had a sexual fetish called Necrophilia (having sex with dead women ) !! :eek: Google it for further information! Or if not to that extent close to it, a fetish of having sex with a woman who was VERY out of it!!! What he should have really done was paid prostitutes good money to take downers/tranquilizer type meds , in other words woman who would be in agreement to this!;)

He was a married famous man, very loved and good looking and personable. Besides his wife MANY women would have loved to sleep with him I'm sure.;) If he just wanted to fool around and have straight regular sex there would have been many women that would oblige ! But being he was into this kinky type of sex and it was back in the day he figured he would never be found out or caught ! But in the long run if he had gone the prostitute consensual rout with his fetish, it might have come to public light but he wouldn't be in the trouble he is in today with the rape charges !

Am I making sense ? I know what I mean, but maybe I'm not putting it in words right?:confused:

That's an interesting viewpoint. Not sure I agree but you never know. I just think he was into power with sex like a rapist.

Bill Cosby was good at his job, and that's why Cliff Huxtable was his "sickest joke" (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/arts/television/cosby-show-african-americans.html)

"If a sexual predator wanted to come up with a smoke screen for his ghastly conquests, he couldn’t do better than Cliff Huxtable," says Wesley Morris of the iconic The Cosby Show character that made Cosby "America's Dad." In reacting to Cosby's sexual assault conviction, Morris says Cosby being good at his job is why his downfall is so depressing — "depressing," he says, "not for its shock but for the work the verdict now requires me to do. The discarding and condemning and reconsidering — of the shows, the albums, the movies. But I don’t need to watch them anymore. It’s too late. I’ve seen them. I’ve absorbed them. I’ve lived them. I’m a black man, so I am them." Morris adds: "Cliff was affable, patient, wise, and where Mrs. Huxtable (Phylicia Rashad) was concerned, justly deferential. His wit was quick, his sweaters roomy and kaleidoscopic. He could be romantic. Cliff should have been the envy of any father ever to appear on a sitcom. He was vertiginously dadly. Cliff is the reason for the cognitive dissonance we’ve been experiencing for the last three or four years. He seemed inseparable from the man who portrayed him."

ALSO:

Janice Dickinson reacts to the verdict: I just want him to "rot in hell" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/janice-dickinson-bill-cosby-rot-hell-article-1.3959112)
Revisiting how Hannibal Buress' standup bit helped take down Cosby (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/you-raped-women-bill-cosby-how-a-bit-in-hannibal-buresss-standup-led-to-the-takedown-of-an-icon_us_5ae3415ee4b02baed1b9f1fd)
Buress has previously expressed discomfort with his role in the Cosby allegations (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/04/26/hannibal-buress-unwittingly-reignited-the-bill-cosby-firestorm-heres-how-he-dealt-with-the-aftermath/): “I was just doing a joke at a show," he said on his 2016 Netflix special. "I didn’t like the media putting me at the forefront of it. They were sly, dissing me in the news."

Kennedy Center mulls revoking the two awards it presented to Bill Cosby (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/04/27/will-kennedy-center-rescind-cosby-awards/)
The disgraced comedian was presented with the Kennedy Center Honor for lifetime achievement in the performing arts in 1998 and was the 12th recipient of the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor in 2009. "The status of the Kennedy Center Honor and the Mark Twain Prize is under review by the appropriate board committees,” says Kennedy Center spokeswoman Michelle A. Pendoley. If the committees endorse revoking the award, it would be up to the full board to vote on approval. There is no timetable on the review.

The whole situation is very sad, and it's a reason why I'm glad I'm not currently involved with anyone. There's just too much BS going on with people these days. I'm a single guy and don't have a girlfriend, I was previously in a relationship for 12 years until she betrayed me and left to be with another man. So someone very special would have to come along before I trust another woman.

Consider this scenario: A man and woman spend the night and have consensual sex. The next morning, the woman goes to the cops, lies and cries she was raped. The cops go to question the man and he says the sex was consensual. Who do you think the cops are going to believe?? I can almost guarantee they wouldn't believe the man, that's for sure. So I stay home most of the time and keep to myself. It can be lonely sometimes but I also have peace of mind and don't have problems. :lol:

Well here is how I see it ! Bill Cosby pretty much had a sexual fetish called Necrophilia (having sex with dead women ) !! :eek: Google it for further information! Or if not to that extent close to it, a fetish of having sex with a woman who was VERY out of it!!! What he should have really done was paid prostitutes good money to take downers/tranquilizer type meds , in other words woman who would be in agreement to this!;)

He was a married famous man, very loved and good looking and personable. Besides his wife MANY women would have loved to sleep with him I'm sure.;) If he just wanted to fool around and have straight regular sex there would have been many women that would oblige ! But being he was into this kinky type of sex and it was back in the day he figured he would never be found out or caught ! But in the long run if he had gone the prostitute consensual rout with his fetish, it might have come to public light but he wouldn't be in the trouble he is in today with the rape charges !

Am I making sense ? I know what I mean, but maybe I'm not putting it in words right?:confused:

I think you put it rather well.

I’m very surprised that The Cosby Show hasn’t been pulled from TVOne yet when it should.

I always had great respect for Bill Cosby. I loved his comedy routines which were very very funny without being vulgar. Now all I can do is look at him in disgust.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/bill-cosby-booted-from-tv-academy’s-hall-of-fame/ar-AAwEICv?ocid=spartandhp