Can we please get this stickied?

Whenever Antenna doesn't crunch credits, please post here. Except for Wings and Sabrina, which are never crunched.

I know that on the night of 9/5/17, there was no crunch, but the Family Ties credits weren't even shown.
One night in late December 2017 at 12:00 AM, the Family Ties credits were shown.
On 1/2/18 at 2PM, Kotter's credits were shown
They didn't crunch Murphy Brown on the night of 3/20/2018 at 10:30 PM.

This would be a good idea. Definitely something I will follow in case sometime down the road Antenna decides to stop crunching credits altogether then I can start watching it again.

This would be a good idea. Definitely something I will follow in case sometime down the road Antenna decides to stop crunching credits altogether then I can start watching it again.
unfortunately I highly doubt they'll stop doing it for all their shows. I e-mailllled them once asking why they do it and they said that the reason is because an unfortunate reality of all these "retro-channels" popping up is the price of these vintage shows keeps going up. They thought of a few ways to differentiate the cost and "credit crunching" is the cheapest one.

Wow!! You guys really stand strong on your hatred of the credit crunches!!!:eek: I don't really get why this bugs you so much:confused: but I admire the diehard passion you credit crunch haters have about this!!;) :wave:

unfortunately I highly doubt they'll stop doing it for all their shows. I e-mailllled them once asking why they do it and they said that the reason is because an unfortunate reality of all these "retro-channels" popping up is the price of these vintage shows keeps going up. They thought of a few ways to differentiate the cost and "credit crunching" is the cheapest one.

That’s probably true unfortunately. I had to stop watching Laff and Bounce at the beginning of this year because they started crunching credits too. So Me and Decades are the only ones left that don’t crunch that I still watch.

Wow!! You guys really stand strong on your hatred of the credit crunches!!!:eek: I don't really get why this bugs you so much:confused: but I admire the diehard passion you credit crunch haters have about this!!;) :wave:
It doesn't bother me, I just want to see how many times they don't crunch the credits.

On June 5th 2017, I recorded season 1, episodes 1 and 2 of The Joey Bishop Show, "On The Spot" and "Joey Meets Jack Paar". Both episodes have the full closing credits, no credit crunch :). Maybe the credit crunch employee was out to lunch or took the day off that day ;) :lol:.

Gimme a Break didn't have the crunch a couple of times recently. Same with What's Happening. It's weird. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.:crazy:

They almost played the full Growing Pains credits... almost. A lot more than what they usually show was shown before they crunched. And one night My Two Dads had full credits but I forget when that was.

On June 5th 2017, I recorded season 1, episodes 1 and 2 of The Joey Bishop Show, "On The Spot" and "Joey Meets Jack Paar". Both episodes have the full closing credits, no credit crunch :). Maybe the credit crunch employee was out to lunch or took the day off that day ;) :lol:.


:lol: :D :wave:

...Wings and Sabrina...are never crunched.



Does anyone know why? Contractural, maybe?

Does anyone know why? Contractural, maybe?

Guessing because (at least in the case of Wings' later seasons; don't know about Sabrina) there's often a bonus scene during the credits.

That’s probably true unfortunately. I had to stop watching Laff and Bounce at the beginning of this year because they started crunching credits too. So Me and Decades are the only ones left that don’t crunch that I still watch.
H & I, COZI TV and STARZ/ENCORE WESTERNS also don't do it.

H & I, COZI TV and STARZ/ENCORE WESTERNS also don't do it.

I think Cozi did at one point but must have stopped. I just got Cozi back in January. At least I know they don’t crunch the Nanny. I don’t get the other ones you mentioned.

With Lassie and Dick Van Dyke, Cozi simply didn't play the credits. With Dick Van Dyke, they just play the short Director/Writer credits.

I just watched Gimme A Break! It was nice to see the entire closing credits complete with all the closing logos. Somebody must have been asleep at the switch at Antenna TV.

I don't give a care about the crunches. I just really really miss ATV. :(

*gently weeps*

Ya'll are lucky to get it still.

It's pretty petty to care about whether a show is crunched or not, and then ask for a topic about it be so stickied. Really, it's not that important. It's commonplace today and it doesn't bother me anymore. Yes, it's unfortunate, but I don't see why it's necessary to be surprised or outraged if a credit crunch does or does not happen.

:violin:

:crysoup:

I obviously hate the credit crunch and have boycotted Antenna ever since but I agree it seems silly to sticky this just because they goof once in a while and don’t crunch. I no longer watch so it’s really irrelevant to me. If by some miracle in the distant future they stop crunching and go back to showing full credits then I will gladly start watching again. But I highly doubt that will happen, so as long as they continue to crunch, I will continue to boycott. Enough said.

Who really cares if the station crunches the credits? I agree that this topic doesn't really need to be stickied.

It's pretty petty to care about whether a show is crunched or not, and then ask for a topic about it be so stickied. Really, it's not that important. It's commonplace today and it doesn't bother me anymore. Yes, it's unfortunate, but I don't see why it's necessary to be surprised or outraged if a credit crunch does or does not happen.

:violin:

:crysoup:
I don't really care about the crunches, I just want an official log. And if it's not stickied, it'll go dead in a few months.

It's a valid concern. Credits are part of the show and it highlights the greediness of the network when they compromise that experience.

I don't think there's any avoiding it though. In the long run I expect every channel will credit crunch or even worse. I've learned to move on or just buy DVDs.

I agree. I don't like it either, but it's not like Antenna is the only channel that split-screens or redoes the credits. All but a few of them do it.

Re my question on post 11, as to why they don't credit-crunch Sabrina--I saw an episode Saturday, and there was live action that the credits play over. They may have decided not to fool with credits in that format. Another poster also said the same thing sometimes happens with Wings. It's probably the same reason that most channels/stations leave the Seinfeld credits alone.

Laff, Bounce, Grit, and Escape all started split screen crunching at the beginning of 2018 so I now boycott those too. Only good ones left are MeTV and Decades.

What does "stickied" mean??

At the top of the General Sitcoms, you see 5 or 6 threads labeled "Sticky". It keeps those threads at the top. I assume moderators or others running the site decide what threads get "stickied."

At the top of the General Sitcoms, you see 5 or 6 threads labeled "Sticky". It keeps those threads at the top. I assume moderators or others running the site decide what threads get "stickied."


Yeah, I have seen that, but had no idea what it meant!! :confused: I've always been meaning to ask but never did before ! ;)

Laff, Bounce, Grit, and Escape all started split screen crunching at the beginning of 2018 so I now boycott those too. Only good ones left are MeTV and Decades.

And if they start crunching (which, let's be honest, is inevitable)?

And if they start crunching (which, let's be honest, is inevitable)?

Then they’re out the door and I’ll be done with all diginets and will only watch DVDs.

Then they’re out the door and I’ll be done with all diginets and will only watch DVDs.
:facepalm:

Laff, Bounce, Grit, and Escape all started split screen crunching at the beginning of 2018 so I now boycott those too. Only good ones left are MeTV and Decades.
Cozi TV, H & I, and Starz/Encore Westerns also don't do it.

One thing I'm trying (I like it so far)--for example, I get used to watching Hazel at 10 am, but now, instead of watching it on Antenna, I consult the on-screen TV Guide and see what episode they're showing, and I just watch that episode on the DVD set. Anything I would normally do during the commercial, I just stop the episode.

No edits, credit crunches, or annoying commercials!

One thing I'm trying (I like it so far)--for example, I get used to watching Hazel at 10 am, but now, instead of watching it on Antenna, I consult the on-screen TV Guide and see what episode they're showing, and I just watch that episode on the DVD set. Anything I would normally do during the commercial, I just stop the episode.

No edits, credit crunches, or annoying commercials!

Smart thinking. Not a bad idea at all.

At 6:29 PM on today (3/27/18) the credits to Silver Spoons played

You beat me to it. There was a reason for this one--these closing credits were probably too short for one of their stupid promos; plus, the pilot episode opener of My Two Dads was too short for their standard show to show crunch.

Gimme a Break didn't have the crunch a couple of times recently. Same with What's Happening. It's weird. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.:crazy:


Now that is a show where I wouldn't mind the crunch. Because of that scary-ass MCA-TV logo!

i thought silver spoons was on at 6 or was it closing credits

i thought silver spoons was on at 6 or was it closing credits
The credits aired at 6:29

Earlier this week, a lot of credits weren't even shown
Yesterday (4/7/18), at 5:29 PM, Murphy Brown's credits got crunched about .1 seconds later than usual
Today (4/8/18) Kotter and Maude weren't crunched

Yesterday, Gimme a Break wasn't crunched.

Yesterday, Gimme a Break wasn't crunched.

The crunch was given a break! ! :lol: :wave:

The crunch was given a break! ! :lol: :wave:

Yeah!:lol: I really like the theme song and end credits instrumental to Gimme a Break! The show, aside from Nell Carter, is not one of my favorites at all though.

Then they’re out the door and I’ll be done with all diginets and will only watch DVDs.

So tired of hearing how you hate Antenna TV. Stop trolling the boards of shows on Antenne TV nobody cares anymore.

Starting this thread was the biggest mistake I ever made. I intended this to be a harmless way to document when the credits aren't crunched. But it's turned into people just constantly trolling about how much they hate Antenna TV.

Today (April 30, 2018), Head of the Class was not crunched.

McHale's Navy credits just played out.

Last night's episode of Head of the Class was not crunched.

On Thursday, Gimme a Break wasnt crunched

Yesterday the first Burns and Allen was not crunched.

Gimme A Break aired today (June 13, 2018) with full closing credits. Nice to see those for a change.

I do not mind the credit crunches on Gimme a Break! Because of the dreaded MCA-TV logo at the end.

For an unknown reason, the second ep. Father Knows Best credits played out a few minutes ago.

The other day, the gay bar episode of Murphy Brown had the credits play where Jim and the gay guys are singing.

I'm curious about FETV. They have a great lineup. Does anyone know if they credit crunch? How much editing do they do? I'd love to get this channel if they air their shows without the dreaded CC. Please inform.

Father Knows Best #1 credits played out this morning, due to placement of first commercial (right after opening credits) of FKB #2.

At 10:00 PM EST today, Growing Pains played uncrunched, then the credits repeated in the crunched form.

I've seen several of their credit screw-ups, but that's a first!

Father Knows Best #1 opened "clean" today. This probably means the McHales Navy #2 credits played out.

Father Knows Best #1 opened "clean" again today. This probably means the McHales Navy #2 credits played out.

Today (December 16, 2018), Head of the Class was not crunched.

Well, this was odd. Dennis the Menace 2nd episode--the credits played out, then they replayed split screen with the Hazel opening.

We noticed that as well Stevea

The Dennis the Menace credits just played out. Nice to hear the theme for a change.

Friday night, Jan 3, Antenna had a mess up:

In between the end of NewsRadio and the credits, they accidentally played a network promo.
When Becker aired next, the portion of the screen that was supposed to be the NewsRadio credits was instead a black screen.

Unrelated, but a This TV sponsor promo just played on Antenna TV

Father Knows Best opened full screen, so i assume the Burns and Allen credits played out today.

This isn't a credit crunch comment but I just discovered today that I now receive Antenna TV in a smaller, square shaped picture with black bars on all four sides of the screen. :mad: It used to be a fullscreen picture, but not anymore. This is really bad but I'm not surprised this has happened because of the crappy new ownership of Antenna TV. I'm just glad I've already recorded the Joey Bishop episodes before they started this garbage and stopped fullscreen telecasting. Antenna TV is now crap just like the other retro channels. Thank goodness for DVD's.

A further update: I checked my other TV that's connected with a "mini box" only and no DVR, and on that set I still get Antenna TV in fullscreen. It's the TV that's connected with the big box and DVR where I now get Antenna TV in a small square picture with black bars on the four sides. This is still garbage though because the DVR is what I use for recording shows. So maybe Antenna TV isn't the actual culprit here, I don't know for sure who's to blame. Either Antenna TV, or the local affiliate, or maybe the cable outfit I'm signed up with decided to mess with the picture size and it's affecting boxes that have a DVR. :mad:

Right, it's not Antenna TV, which is still SD (and based on their shows, should be). This is probably the fault of either the local channel, or (more likely based on your second post) your cable provider.

I have an old mini DT cable box (that Comcast at one time said was free but that didn't last) and another regular cable box. They both "interpret" MeTV's screwed up signal differently Sorry, this is off the topic), and on the mini box the aspect ratio is zoomed in, in other words, totally screwed up. I keep the mini box because it gets the local channels unscrambled, whereas the regular box has them scrambled so the DVD recorder "thinks" it can't record from them. Does Comcast care? Of course not!

So, I'm betting it's your cable provider.

Right, it's not Antenna TV, which is still SD (and based on their shows, should be). This is probably the fault of either the local channel, or (more likely based on your second post) your cable provider.

I have an old mini DT cable box (that Comcast at one time said was free but that didn't last) and another regular cable box. They both "interpret" MeTV's screwed up signal differently Sorry, this is off the topic), and on the mini box the aspect ratio is zoomed in, in other words, totally screwed up. I keep the mini box because it gets the local channels unscrambled, whereas the regular box has them scrambled so the DVD recorder "thinks" it can't record from them. Does Comcast care? Of course not!

So, I'm betting it's your cable provider.

Thanks Steve for replying. I believe now that the culprit is either the local affiliate here or the cable outfit I'm signed up with which is Spectrum. As I said in my previous post, I'm just glad I recorded the Joey Bishop episodes before this change went down and the signal was still fullscreen.

In an obvious flub, on the Dennis the Menace just ended, instead of the audio for the next episode, they played the theme from the credits of the previous episode. This eventually blotted out the dialog on the next episode, and when the credits ended, they blacked out for nearly a minute.

Give it up, guys!

Something I had not seen for awhile: Both episodes of Barney Miller and The Jeffersons were completely uncrunched, as well as the ending of the 7:30 Alice. Maybe they finally went back to the old way today with that many in a row, last night It's a Living and the start of Soap were still crunched.

Agreed, It’s much like how Antenna TV did during their early pre-credit crunch era days.

Shh! Don't give them any ideas!

My bet is their equipment just went haywire.

Yes. Father Knows Best the other day also didn’t have the credit crunch.

They are crunching Benson right now.

Dennis the Menace credits just played out. Also, both episodes are not the ones scheduled.

AntennaTV adjacent question-- I only get Rewind TV from an antenna, which I rarely use. What does Rewind do? Crunch or no.

Father Knows Best episodes today didn’t match the episode description. The 2nd Father Knows Best started at 9:28AM.

AntennaTV adjacent question-- I only get Rewind TV from an antenna, which I rarely use. What does Rewind do? Crunch or no.

Yes--I get it where I am, and yes they do crunch except for Sabrina, the Teenage Witch and Wings.

Father Knows Best episodes today didn’t match the episode description. The 2nd Father Knows Best started at 9:28AM.

Both Hazels were from season 5, which didn't match the descriptions, either.

They must have been doing some unpublicized stunt.

smaller square shape picture...black bars on side .who's to blame ?? cable or tv station or ant tv ?

Might be your local affiliate. My affiliate shows it full screen.

Today going from Bachelor Father into Father Knows Best, they reversed the crunch, and played the BF credits audio and larger screen video, with the beginning of FKB smaller and muted. Never saw that happen!

Whereas I realize that AntennaTV is NOT MeTV, I say it would behoove them to show the full credits.

Yes that may mean 30 more seconds of commercials, but let’s face it, every rerun network has already chopped something already.

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Bachelor Father's closing credits were completely uncrunched at the end of today's 8:30 episode.

Whereas I realize that AntennaTV is NOT MeTV, I say it would behoove them to show the full credits.

Yes that may mean 30 more seconds of commercials, but let’s face it, every rerun network has already chopped something already.

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I miswrote, if that’s a word.

Not “30 more seconds of commercials,” but rather, 30 LESS seconds of dialogue.

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The 4:30 am episode of My Favorite Martian had its credits play out in their entirety, for some reason.

It's the first time I've seen the full credits for that program on Antenna TV,

This morning's Antenna TV shows have the crunch reversed; the credits audio/video plays out in the larger window, and the next program is muted in the smaller window.

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The 11:00 Hazel today played full ending credits.

The end of Benson at 5 am today -- the credits played out in full.

The end credits of Benson at 5:30 am today played out in full.

The 4:30am ET slot usually play the credits in full.

At the end of the 11:30 Hazel today, they played the Hazel theme audio and the credits in the large window, and the Bewitched audio was muted and in the small window.

In other words, they goofed.

The tv show 227 credits played in full tonight at around 10:58p. At least I think that was the show. All I know that it’s credits played in full.