View Full Version : Lizzie Borden -- UNSOLVED??
AriadneHaze 01-09-2018, 01:10 PM I understand that Lizzie Borden was found not guilty of the murders of her father and stepmother, but does anyone really consider this a "mystery"? It's pretty obvious to me that Lizzie did it. I'm not sure this story belonged on the program. Anyone else?
bell83 01-09-2018, 01:20 PM I understand that Lizzie Borden was found not guilty of the murders of her father and stepmother, but does anyone really consider this a "mystery"? It's pretty obvious to me that Lizzie did it. I'm not sure this story belonged on the program. Anyone else?
I agree that she most likely did it. I guess the argument could be made for it being on the show in the same way that In Search Of did some of their shows, where their aim was to provide "some possible explanations, but not necessarily the only ones" to the stories they chronicled. I could go either way with it. Could it have been left off? Definitely.
LooksLikeCRicci 01-09-2018, 01:44 PM Whatever, y'all. Christina Ricci starred in the Lifetime movie "Lizzie Borden Took an Ax."
https://traceymattingly.s3.amazonaws.com/lg_52e18d6d-4a14-4dc1-9b72-44910af4b6c2.jpg
Boom. Innocent.
...okay, I'm kidding. Yes, the evidence would suggest that Lizzie killed her parents.
AriadneHaze 01-09-2018, 01:52 PM Whatever, y'all. Christina Ricci starred in the Lifetime movie "Lizzie Borden Took an Ax."
https://traceymattingly.s3.amazonaws.com/lg_52e18d6d-4a14-4dc1-9b72-44910af4b6c2.jpg
Boom. Innocent.
...okay, I'm kidding. Yes, the evidence would suggest that Lizzie killed her parents.
Christina Ricci doesn't look strong enough to lift that axe, never mind kill anyone with it!
bell83 01-09-2018, 03:07 PM Christina Ricci doesn't look strong enough to lift that axe, never mind kill anyone with it!
She can kill ME with it...
Dear God, THAT'S where I go with it? :crazy:
WishfulDreamer 01-14-2018, 08:15 PM I understand that Lizzie Borden was found not guilty of the murders of her father and stepmother, but does anyone really consider this a "mystery"? It's pretty obvious to me that Lizzie did it. I'm not sure this story belonged on the program. Anyone else?
I interpreted this segment as being more about paranormal phenomena at the inn, rather than the question of Lizzie's guilt or innocence.
I wish the segment had gone into more detail about why she was acquitted and more evidence, though. That would have been pretty interesting.
Janel "Jaycee" Miller 01-15-2018, 10:05 PM I interpreted this segment as being more about paranormal phenomena at the inn, rather than the question of Lizzie's guilt or innocence.
I wish the segment had gone into more detail about why she was acquitted and more evidence, though. That would have been pretty interesting.
I toured the house this summer (nothing paranormal happened while I was there, and I do believe in that sort of thing).
I am thinking our tour guide mentioned a friend or family member of the Bordens who was in town the
same time the murders took place. His back story would probably have been enough to cast reasonable doubt. I am sorry to say I don't remember more specifics right now but will post again if I do. I might also do some googling to refresh my memory.
TheCars1986 01-16-2018, 08:41 AM I went through a Lizzie Borden museum in Salem, MA years ago where you walk through and they presented evidence in favor of her guilt and innocence, and at the end you were supposed to say whether or not you thought she was guilty. There was just too many coincidences to believe someone other than Lizzie committed the murders.
Hot Jock 01-16-2018, 01:20 PM I went through a Lizzie Borden museum in Salem, MA years ago where you walk through and they presented evidence in favor of her guilt and innocence, and at the end you were supposed to say whether or not you thought she was guilty. There was just too many coincidences to believe someone other than Lizzie committed the murders.
She totally killed her parents. A combination of good lawyering and an uneducated jury got her off the hook.
charmedsignora 01-16-2018, 03:10 PM Has anyone actually gotten a psychic to go through the Bordens' house and ask them who killed them, and where we might find some evidence? Isn't that part of what mediums do?
I'm not an expert, but I believe that this can be solvable if these spirits are as active as everyone says they are!
PracTz 01-16-2018, 05:12 PM She totally killed her parents. A combination of good lawyering and an uneducated jury got her off the hook.
I agree. Moreover, I recall one program that postulated that she took all her clothes off, killed them, then bathed in the 'dry sink' in the basement to get rid of the blood [and said sink tested positive for blood via lumenol]. Yet, they ignored the fact that Mr. Borden had been a taxidermist so that could have been been why the sink tested positive AND that Miss Borden had been seen burning a dress that had 'gotten paint on it' after the murders!
Let's just say that I don't think that was the first or last time a lawyer convincing a jury that an accused murderer was every bit as nice and innocent as their own family members got an actual murderer from being convicted.
charmedsignora 01-18-2018, 02:19 PM I remember reading a book about this case a while ago (I can't remember the title, but I just picked it out of the library), and the author's foreward was very interesting. He noted that the only reason Lizzie Borden was found innocent was probably because the jury refused to believe that a child was capable of killing her parents. That kind of thing just didn't happen in America, or so they would have liked to have thought.
soilentgreen 01-18-2018, 07:12 PM I think that she was acquitted in part because while she seems to have lied at the inquest, she didn't take the stand at trial and could not be cross examined about inconsistencies in those prior statements. The prussic acid purchase was deemed inadmissible as well. It's a case where you can believe someone was guilty but proving it in court is another matter.
RobinW 01-19-2018, 10:09 AM Virtually everything points to Lizzie's guilt aside from the fact that there was no blood found on her dress after the murders. I've seen at least two made-for-TV movies about the case (one from the 1970s, the other a fairly recent one with Christina Ricci) which try to account for this by showing hypothetical reenactments of Lizzie performing the murders in the nude, though the police not checking Lizzie thoroughly for blood and her burning the dress days later are equally plausible explanations.
LooksLikeCRicci 01-26-2018, 12:30 PM I went through a Lizzie Borden museum in Salem, MA years ago where you walk through and they presented evidence in favor of her guilt and innocence, and at the end you were supposed to say whether or not you thought she was guilty. There was just too many coincidences to believe someone other than Lizzie committed the murders.
That is fascinating. Is it still open? I'd like to check that out sometime...
moonchilddd94 02-17-2018, 12:33 PM So, can anyone tell me which season and episode that the Lizzie Borden house appears on? I have Amazon Prime, They have the complete seasons with Robert Stack on there, and I have looked through every episode (Haven't watched all, just reading through their discriptions) But I can't find it, anyone know what season it originally appeared on?
Bunny6299 02-17-2018, 08:16 PM Season 11 episode 6 titled “Borden House” : )
Bunny6299 02-17-2018, 08:17 PM Sorry I posted the season it’s on Amazon Prime!
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