Myself, like many others have searched endlessly to watch the jay durham segment again.

Can anyone tell me why its deleted?

Or where online I can view it?

Thanks,
Alex.

It might have something to do with the fact that Jay Durham is now deceased. He died in 2014. :(

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a lot of people are dead and their cases/interviews still on.

Maybe it's that the statue of limitations has long ago passed. So even though the truck driver responsible for the accident has never been identified, authorities do not want it aired anymore. Hmm maybe the boss at UM Mr.Cosgrove wanted to include these cases where the statue of limitations has since passed, but can't legally

Maybe it's that the statue of limitations has long ago passed. So even though the truck driver responsible for the accident has never been identified, authorities do not want it aired anymore. Hmm maybe the boss at UM Mr.Cosgrove wanted to include these cases where the statue of limitations has since passed, but can't legally

Don't think so-I recently watched one of them where a con artist was operating & at the end it said the statute had passed & she was no longer wanted.

Don't think so-I recently watched one of them where a con artist was operating & at the end it said the statute had passed & she was no longer wanted.

Good point, I know the case of the missing Tennessee pastor George Owens was excluded out and he nor his remains have ever been found.

I may be over thinking here but maybe in some unresolved cases there's background sound effects copyright/licensing issues,an actor in the segment that would have to be paid royalties today(they would go on to become talent agency represented),or their film is damaged and it would be "costly" to further restore. Or even with an unresolved tragedy some of the victims/families have put the ordeal behind them and do not want their case aired anymore.

Good point, I know the case of the missing Tennessee pastor George Owens was excluded out and he nor his remains have ever been found.

I may be over thinking here but maybe in some unresolved cases there's background sound effects copyright/licensing issues,an actor in the segment that would have to be paid royalties today(they would go on to become talent agency represented),or their film is damaged and it would be "costly" to further restore. Or even with an unresolved tragedy some of the victims/families have put the ordeal behind them and do not want their case aired anymore.

Someone on the Unsolved Mysteries Official Facebook page asked why the Sheldon Weinberg segment was not aired in its entirety, but was aired only as an update. UM responded that the film for the original segment was damaged and they were unable to restore it. So that could be the reason why some of the segments are not able to be aired.

I'm not sure about Jay's case, it may have been that his family didn't want it aired for whatever reason or the police department request that it not be aired due to statute of limitations. Or it could be possible that the case was solved and we didn't know about it.

Thanks for the info.

Does anyone have this segment?
Or a link to it?

I’ve stopped asking why at this point.

Yeah the 'why' seems like a pointless question.
However I'm still extremely curious to find it again.

Yeah the 'why' seems like a pointless question.
However I'm still extremely curious to find it again.

I'm more curious why they removed segments featuring missing persons/attempted murder (despite some people obviously being dead or statute of limitations being up) instead of the hokey supernatural obviously hoax segments.

No one has a link?

I'm more curious why they removed segments featuring missing persons/attempted murder (despite some people obviously being dead or statute of limitations being up) instead of the hokey supernatural obviously hoax segments.

Commercial reasons most likely is the main reason & secondly to mix it up variety wise a bit-even though a lot of us find a lot of the miracles, hauntings etc segments laughable there is a huge market for people who are into that stuff-I certainly was when I watched them originally & for many years after. Plus so many of them were shot brilliantly like Black Hope Curse or funny like the Inn one where the ghost was blowing down women's necks, disembodied head appearing on a sideboard etc they are at least entertaining to watch.

Searched high and low for this segment....

No luck anywhere.

Help???

I’ve stopped asking why at this point.

You sound like me. After the "reasons" they gave for not including the orange socks murders segment...which is still unsolved to this day.

The Jay Durham segment is included on disc 5 of the Crystal Dawn Collection.

Someone on the Unsolved Mysteries Official Facebook page asked why the Sheldon Weinberg segment was not aired in its entirety, but was aired only as an update. UM responded that the film for the original segment was damaged and they were unable to restore it. So that could be the reason why some of the segments are not able to be aired.



I subscribe to the WWE Network, and I am flummoxed at times when we get an edit due to damage to tapes since many of us nerds have original copies on VHS, DVD and youtube that they could snag and use.

Random thought - Durham’s death and statute of limitations issues (depending on what the driver of the truck could be charged with) are probably what is holding this segment up.

I subscribe to the WWE Network, and I am flummoxed at times when we get an edit due to damage to tapes since many of us nerds have original copies on VHS, DVD and youtube that they could snag and use.

Does the Network use that awful generic entrance music to avoid making royalty payments? Makes me laugh-I have a ridiculous collection of VHS from pretty much every company/territory in the US, Japan & Mexico from the 1980's & 1990's & that back then you could just use Guns & Roses, Black Sabbath, Metallica etc without the record companies caring.

You sound like me. After the "reasons" they gave for not including the orange socks murders segment...which is still unsolved to this day.

What reasons did they give for that? They showed that one on Lifetime, didn't they? I seem to recall seeing it somewhat recently. Either Lifetime or Spike I suppose.

Does the Network use that awful generic entrance music to avoid making royalty payments? Makes me laugh-I have a ridiculous collection of VHS from pretty much every company/territory in the US, Japan & Mexico from the 1980's & 1990's & that back then you could just use Guns & Roses, Black Sabbath, Metallica etc without the record companies caring.

Most definitely. Even worse, they have lost the rights to music THEY created so guys like Hillbilly Jim now have generic themes.

Most definitely. Even worse, they have lost the rights to music THEY created so guys like Hillbilly Jim now have generic themes.

I couldn't work out why they didn't use the Jim Johnston stuff like Dusty's theme for the last decade plus-thank goodness I have them on tape from Sky & those DVD compilations where the music is intact.

What reasons did they give for that? They showed that one on Lifetime, didn't they? I seem to recall seeing it somewhat recently. Either Lifetime or Spike I suppose.

Wasn't it something ridiculous like "We couldn't find an episode where it could fit", as in to meet the runtime?

I subscribe to the WWE Network, and I am flummoxed at times when we get an edit due to damage to tapes since many of us nerds have original copies on VHS, DVD and youtube that they could snag and use.

True, but to use something it has to be broadcast quality. Not something full of VHS tracking from an old copied and recopied tape.

It does seem odd though given how many times the show was cut and recut that something like that could be gone though. 60 minute versions, 30 minute versions, versions with normal intros, versions with lifetime intros, NSTC versions, PAL versions, etc. I bet it exists somewhere, probably in a syndication package, but digging through to find it wasn't worth the effort to them. (Unless they junked the Stack packages, maybe this is why Lifetime airs the Spike version now?)

Wasn't it something ridiculous like "We couldn't find an episode where it could fit", as in to meet the runtime?

You got it.

You got it.

Yeah, so dumb.

The easiest answer was to cut back the updates for it. When you've included the update at the end of the segment, do you need to repeat that same update footage several episodes later? It's nice to maintain the aspect of real time updates from the original, but not if you're losing segments.