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Scrabjan1
09-22-2017, 09:03 AM
Several episodes show Ward dressed casually in the afternoon and all suited up at night. In Beaver's Old Buddy Ward has on casual garb when he's offering to take Beaver and Jackie to the movies. Later before dinner he's in a suit. In Wally's Dream Girl they spend the afternoon at Friend's Lake and later on the couch June has on a nice dress and Ward's in a suit. Just really strange because it's a weekend.

RetroGuy2000
09-22-2017, 04:10 PM
I often felt like the show had unrealistic wardrobes; this was supposed to be a typical, middle-class family. Yet they were dressed to the nines at inappropriate times. Like when June was doing the cleaning while wearing a pearl necklace, and those times when Ward was wearing a suit at dinner, after dinner, during the weekend... heck, he probably wore that suit to bed! ;)

Scrabjan1
09-22-2017, 08:12 PM
I guess we have to realize it was a tv show and June was showing off fashions as indicated in the credits. It was just weird seeing Ward at 9:00 pm still in a suit and reading that same prop paper like in Beaver's Poster. June looking fresh as a daisy all dressed up at night. I wish they acted the way they did in the first season really laid back and natural. They all got so formal and regimented.

stevea
09-22-2017, 09:27 PM
I agree. I'm surprised to see Ward in casual clothes in season 4. In season 5 we might see him casual in the first episode in the golf clubhouse, but let's see if he's out of his suit and tie any other time.

And wouldn't it be something to see June come to breakfast in a bathrobe (also with pearls, of course)?

Scrabjan1
09-23-2017, 12:02 PM
Breakfast is weird because sometimes we see June all dressed and coiffed cooking breakfast and other times in her robe (Eddie Spends the Night). Usually it's a weekend when she's not all dressed because no one goes to school or work. Sometimes Ward sleeps late and once he's shaving in the afternoon (Beaver's Fortune).

stevea
09-23-2017, 06:59 PM
Wow! I need to be more observant. I didn't notice she had a robe on in Eddie Spends the Night (of course, I did notice George Haskell became Frank--typical of season 4).

RetroGuy2000
09-23-2017, 11:36 PM
wouldn't it be something to see June come to breakfast in a bathrobe (also with pearls, of course)?

Hahaha! That would be hilarious! :lol:

biffbronson
09-24-2017, 10:48 AM
Contemporary shows were similar in regard to attire; on Dennis the Menace, George Wilson practically always wears a necktie. Even a few years later on, on Hazel's mid-60s eps, George Baxter dresses quite formally much of the time -- and even while just reading a book, wearing a sweater, his necktie is present.

stevea
09-24-2017, 12:15 PM
Wouldn't it be something to see Ward in jeans and a sport shirt and June in sweats and no pearls on?

Tankeryanker
09-24-2017, 12:31 PM
Wouldn't it be something to see Ward in jeans and a sport shirt and June in sweats and no pearls on?
Then I would be watching Roseanne. No thanks

stevea
09-24-2017, 01:48 PM
Ugh! I take it back!

Scrabjan1
09-24-2017, 02:30 PM
Yeah watching Dan Connor in those baggy jeans and felt shirt with a big stomach hanging over the belt isn't great for the eyes. I believe Roseanne often mentions June in a less than complimentary light.

June wore pants in several episodes and looked quite nice in her jeans.

stevea
09-24-2017, 03:12 PM
I didn't see many episodes of that show, but I do remember that beer belly. They did a couple of funny parody episodes...I think they did Father Knows Best, and maybe Patty Duke.

A couple of other funny parodies were when King of Queens took off on The Honeymooners, and the Wayans Bros. did Good Times.

RetroGuy2000
09-24-2017, 05:56 PM
I didn't see many episodes of that show, but I do remember that beer belly. They did a couple of funny parody episodes...I think they did Father Knows Best, and maybe Patty Duke.

Roseanne's Patty Duke parody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGza-mNlM6o) was one of the funniest show parodies I think I've ever watched. Sarah coming down the stairs in Cathy's fancy ball-gown, while Lecy dances like Patty, is done just perfectly. And the hokey split screen scene is very meta.

I don't remember Roseanne doing Father knows Best, but I remember they also brought in the "Sitcom Moms": June Cleaver, Weezey Jefferson, "Lassie's mom", and the mom from the Wonder Years. Part One (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-tNcfLwBLI) and Part Four (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzQqX9tgjk).

(They also did a parody of Gilligan's Island, but IMO that one was less funny. Although I did like it when the Gilligan's Island cast parodied Roseanne (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Dgpwu0q1U).)

Torgo
09-24-2017, 06:39 PM
Roseanne also said Ward Cleaver was a smoker in one episode. Which we know is false.

stevea
09-24-2017, 07:27 PM
Oh yeah, I remember the Gilligan's Island one. I was waiting for it to be funny and it never was. I'm gonna have to look for the Father Knows Best one--I know I put that one on a DVD, someplace. Well, I finally found it...it isn't FKB exactly; it's a takeoff on 50s/60s sitcoms--"That's Our Rosey." It's done in full black and white, and even includes a couple of "commercials." LOL it's really funny! From the copyright date at the end it appears to be a 1995 episode. It's not on youtube--not even a clip of it--really surprising. That Patty Duke parody is a hoot, too.

Torgo
09-24-2017, 07:35 PM
The Gilligan Island parody on Roseanne was awful. Jackie was the worst Gilligan.

On the other hand, The King Of Queens Honeymooners bit was gold. The actors nailed it.

stevea
09-24-2017, 09:16 PM
Yeah that KOQ was gold. There were some other parodies on that episode but they had the Honeymooners cold. (The Brian's Song takeoff was pretty good too.)

I found another pretty good Roseanne parody. Roseanne and what's his name had separated, and she tuned into Nick at Nite. They did That Girl, I Dream of Jeannie, and Mary Tyler Moore (Ed Asner did a very brief cameo).

RetroGuy2000
09-24-2017, 11:39 PM
Roseanne also said Ward Cleaver was a smoker in one episode. Which we know is false.

Wasn't there a pipe episode? And packs of cigarettes in his pocket in early episodes?

RetroGuy2000
09-25-2017, 12:11 AM
Oh yeah, I remember the Gilligan's Island one. I was waiting for it to be funny and it never was. I'm gonna have to look for the Father Knows Best one--I know I put that one on a DVD, someplace. Well, I finally found it...it isn't FKB exactly; it's a takeoff on 50s/60s sitcoms--"That's Our Rosey." It's done in full black and white, and even includes a couple of "commercials." LOL it's really funny! From the copyright date at the end it appears to be a 1995 episode. It's not on youtube--not even a clip of it--really surprising.

Thanks for the reminder! I'd forgotten about "That's Our Rosey". It's not on YouTube, but.... Daily Motion to the rescue (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ttco2)!

I'd say it's mostly a parody of Leave it to Beaver (especially the opening credits), although there are definitely elements of other 50s/60s sitcoms in it. It's great, and so are the "commercials"!

Scrabjan1
09-25-2017, 09:06 AM
I used to love the Wayan Bros's In Living Color where everyone made fun of themselves. I haven't seen the parodies on Roseanne but they sound hilarious. I would love the Patty Duke one. Hey anyone remember the adult animated series, Rocco's Modern Life? There's a parody of the Patty Duke theme with Bloaty and Squirmy as Cathy and Patty.