I'd rather have Archie hands down. Archie had his faults, but he was a good father in many respects. He worked hard and provided for his family. He loved Gloria, and they had a special relationship. He seemed to be an involved father when she was growing up: feeding her, changing her, walking her to school, etc. Archie had his ignorant ways, but he wasn't evil or mean-spirited. There's no way he would have ever condoned a black family being brutalized or hurt. He was harmless. When it came right down to it, he always ended up doing the right thing.

Mike wasn't a bad guy either. However, he wasn't the family man that Archie was. Once Mike got through college bumming off of Archie and Gloria's money, then he basically became selfish. It was all about him. He talked down to Gloria, Archie, and Edith because they didn't have his level of education. He seemed to forget that those three helped him get the education. He wasn't very involved in Joey's raising, nothing like Archie was with Gloria. Then he ends up totally abandoning his family to go live in a commune.

Neither one is truly endearing, but if I must pick it'd be Archie.

At least Archie is real, not a smug phony like Michael. And when someone is right out there, you can still find a way to deal with them.

If either one of those punks were my father I'd disown them!

Neither one is truly endearing, but if I must pick it'd be Archie.

At least Archie is real, not a smug phony like Michael. And when someone is right out there, you can still find a way to deal with them.
Yes. I echo this. Mike was phony...at least Archie was real.

Archie, my dad was kind of a cross between Archie Bunker & Sgt. Carter from Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. so I'd feel right at home with Archie. :lol:

As obnoxious as Mike can sometimes be, at least he is smart. Archie is an idiot. So my vote would go to Mike.

Despite his faults, Archie was, in his own way, a good man. He never beat up anyone.

All in all, I'd vote Archie - while he was bigoted, he truly cared about his family (as evident by Gloria's love for him).

Mike on the other hand, didn't even want to be a dad until Joey was conceived

There's no way he would have ever condoned a black family being brutalized or hurt.

I agree with everything you posted, except the part I have copied above.

I don't think he would have participated in a material "hands on" fashion, but I don't think he would have intervened in opposition to "the pack", if he was significantly outnumbered, either.

I can see him slipping around the corner feeling helpless to stop "the evil ways of the world"

Just my take.

As obnoxious as Mike can sometimes be, at least he is smart. Archie is an idiot. So my vote would go to Mike.

I would like to change my vote from two years ago. I never saw much of Archie Bunker's Place so I did not know that Mike abandoned his family so he could live in a wacky commune. Now that I know this, I change my vote to Archie.

Archie, he was manly and did man things

watched sports
went to the bar
Easily annoyed like me:lol:

Archie was wrong on a lot of issues, but you knew where you stood with him.

Mike could be slimy. I've worked with people similar to Mike's philosophies. They say that they're team players and then you find out that they step on anybody's toes if they are in the way. Mike was only loyal to himself.

Archie. The Meathead was a wimp and he would of turned me into a wimp and turned my sister into a tree-hugging whore.

Seeing as how I am in the LGBTQ, I would pick Mike. I've had to put up with an ignorant, unaccepting father all my life

Mike always looked down upon Archie's bigotry and his conservative views, but Mike never lived up to the SJW that he portrayed himself to be. In many episodes Mike treats Gloria very badly and uses his own liberal views to justify his own bigotry. Mike talked the talk, but never walked the walk.

Archie

He likes sports and annoyed by weirdos

Archie

He likes sports and annoyed by weirdos
I agree as well. Plus, he’s more of a father figure. I can’t picture Mike as a father. Not a good one at least. :lol:

I agree as well. Plus, he’s more of a father figure. I can’t picture Mike as a father. Not a good one at least. :lol:

I think it was a season 8 episode when Mike said football was barbaric :lol:

Mike. While he was sexist like Archie, he valued education and other social rights/programs. So, I'd rather live under him than with someone with bigoted views and hateful behavior towards my mother.

Mike. While he was sexist like Archie, he valued education and other social rights/programs. So, I'd rather live under him than with someone with bigoted views and hateful behavior towards my mother.

I agreed until I found out that years later in Archie Bunker's Place, Mike abandoned his family to join some wacked out commune. Mike was a sucky father and husband. He lost my vote.

I agreed until I found out that years later in Archie Bunker's Place, Mike abandoned his family to join some wacked out commune. Mike was a sucky father and husband. He lost my vote.

Yeah. I forgot about that. Well, I'll change my vote to Archie.

I just saw the episode where Mike and Gloria learn they're having a baby. Mike is such an ass blaming Gloria for getting pregnant. I despise men like that. Gloria's an idiot for allowing Mike to treat her like that. She was so stupid that she thought of having an abortion so he would come back. Mike is the lowest piece of **** ever to be shown on TV. Archie is 100 times better than Mike in every way.

I just saw the episode where Mike and Gloria learn they're having a baby. Mike is such an ass blaming Gloria for getting pregnant. I despise men like that. Gloria's an idiot for allowing Mike to treat her like that. She was so stupid that she thought of having an abortion so he would come back. Mike is the lowest piece of **** ever to be shown on TV. Archie is 100 times better than Mike in every way.

I don’t t see Mike as a POS—but more of a smug weenie hypocrite. You know, I like Archie more too-even when he’s being a horse’s ass—at least he’s real.

I don’t t see Mike as a POS

After reading that he ends up dumping Gloria and Joey, I think he is. It's bad enough the way he's been treating all them so far the first 5 years of AITF, but to end up abandoning them, he's crap.

After reading that he ends up dumping Gloria and Joey, I think he is. It's bad enough the way he's been treating all them so far the first 5 years of AITF, but to end up abandoning them, he's crap.

You know what-you have a point. I stand corrected. Always thought Gloria deserved a better guy anyways.

I just saw the episode where Mike and Gloria learn they're having a baby. Mike is such an ass blaming Gloria for getting pregnant. I despise men like that. Gloria's an idiot for allowing Mike to treat her like that. She was so stupid that she thought of having an abortion so he would come back. Mike is the lowest piece of **** ever to be shown on TV. Archie is 100 times better than Mike in every way.

Your feelings about Mike ended up being accurate during the Archie Bunkers Place series

Your feelings about Mike ended up being accurate during the Archie Bunkers Place series

Indeed. God or bad, Archie was for real. Mike was phoney baloney with a capital P.

Mike always looked down upon Archie's bigotry and his conservative views, but Mike never lived up to the SJW that he portrayed himself to be. In many episodes Mike treats Gloria very badly and uses his own liberal views to justify his own bigotry. Mike talked the talk, but never walked the walk.

Facts!