There seems to be several segments/episodes/Other Stuff that was only aired like 1 time in UM history.

-The Janet O'Regan case was apparently aired only once or so(I completely understand the privacy reasons)
The Halloween special,3rd Anniversary special,90-minute Thanksgiving Special, Christmas special were also aired only once.
-The Virginia Madsen episodes without Stacks voiceovering them were aired only once. As they were not part of the later Lifetime syndication run.(I understand the royalty fee reasons)
-I cant recall them from the top of my head but some segments were slightly altered after their original air date.

Correct me if I am wrong or missing stuff about that said above

The UM fans that were lucky to of have recorded that stuff that was only aired like 1 time in UM history, you literally have a pot of gold as we will probably never see it again in any kind of legal syndication/online streaming platform

While I completely understand the legal/privacy/statue of limitations/budget constraints/executive producers discretion reasons. It just leaves a hole in it for us UM fanatics. Once again the UM community is forced underground to make bootleg DVDS/files, undercover YouTube channels, and have segments/episodes floating all over the internet

There seems to be several segments/episodes/Other Stuff that was only aired like 1 time in UM history.

-The Janet O'Regan case was apparently aired only once or so(I completely understand the privacy reasons)
The Halloween special,3rd Anniversary special,90-minute Thanksgiving Special, Christmas special were also aired only once.
-The Virginia Madsen episodes without Stacks voiceovering them were aired only once. As they were not part of the later Lifetime syndication run.(I understand the royalty fee reasons)
-I cant recall them from the top of my head but some segments were slightly altered after their original air date.

Correct me if I am wrong or missing stuff about that said above

The UM fans that were lucky to of have recorded that stuff that was only aired like 1 time in UM history, you literally have a pot of gold as we will probably never see it again in any kind of legal syndication/online streaming platform

While I completely understand the legal/privacy/statue of limitations/budget constraints/executive producers discretion reasons. It just leaves a hole in it for us UM fanatics. Once again the UM community is forced underground to make bootleg DVDS/files, undercover YouTube channels, and have segments/episodes floating all over the internet

Did the Season 1 & 3 episodes about Gulf Breeze air more than once?

I believe the Doyle Wheeler segment only aired once due to Donovan Jacobs trying to sue UM because he disliked the way he was portrayed. This is based on something I've read on these forums, so I'm not 100% sure it's factual. Would love to have more information about it.

The season 3 segment about "Debbie" who was raped and shot in her face in North Carolina was only aired once on the December 5, 1990 episode. When the episode was rerun, Debbie's segment was replaced by the Michael Francke case.

I've heard that the reason for it never being rerun is because of Robert Stack's spiel about interracial crime at the beginning of the segment. But couldn't they have somehow edited that part out and rerun it? This woman was raped, shot and left for dead and her attacker still needed to be apprehended.

Wasn't the earthquake prediction one only ran once?

-The Virginia Madsen episodes without Stacks voiceovering them were aired only once. As they were not part of the later Lifetime syndication run.(I understand the royalty fee reasons)

I only have a faint memory of the Virginia Madsen segments. I remember watching the first episode with my mom and her making the comment that Stack didn't look too well and wondering if he might have had a stroke.

I remember Ms. Madsen doing the slow, serious Stack walk to the camera but I don't remember the cases themselves.

The season 3 segment about "Debbie" who was raped and shot in her face in North Carolina was only aired once on the December 5, 1990 episode. When the episode was rerun, Debbie's segment was replaced by the Michael Francke case.

I've heard that the reason for it never being rerun is because of Robert Stack's spiel about interracial crime at the beginning of the segment. But couldn't they have somehow edited that part out and rerun it? This woman was raped, shot and left for dead and her attacker still needed to be apprehended.

That segment and the Todd McAfee segment are two of the few that I have never seen.

The "Random Assortment of Suspects" roll calls they would do

The Todd McAfee segment was one of the better ones, IMO. I have no idea why they stopped airing it.

I'm pretty sure I watched the "Debbie" segment numerous times on Lifetime reruns.

Also, this segment is on Amazon Video, (yes, they did take out the racial remark by Stack)

It's in Season 3, Episode 12, timestamp 26:55.

I wish the David Tyll and Brian Ognjan case had been given the full episode it deserved. That's among the top ten most terrifying and disgusting cases I've read about.

The Todd McAfee segment was one of the better ones, IMO. I have no idea why they stopped airing it.

So it aired more than once? I wish I could track down a copy but even after acquiring over 100 episodes from trading I can't find it.

I wish the David Tyll and Brian Ognjan case had been given the full episode it deserved. That's among the top ten most terrifying and disgusting cases I've read about.

Not only have I never seen this segment, I've never even heard of it.

I wish the David Tyll and Brian Ognjan case had been given the full episode it deserved. That's among the top ten most terrifying and disgusting cases I've read about.

Are these the Tennessee ATV murders? I recall a disturbing fact about one of their deaths that involved his head.....

Is this the right one?

So it aired more than once? I wish I could track down a copy but even after acquiring over 100 episodes from trading I can't find it.
I was able to catch it once because someone uploaded it to YouTube a few years ago. It was taken down when Cosgrove Meurer went on their video take-down spree in 2013. I've never been able to track it down since.

Are these the Tennessee ATV murders? I recall a disturbing fact about one of their deaths that involved his head.....

Is this the right one?
No, they're referring to this case:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/David_Tyll_and_Brian_Ognjan

Two hunters who vanished and were profiled in the quick "10 missing persons" segment. I believe that this quick alert for the 10 people only aired once.

I think this topic of "lost" or altered segments has been discussed ad nausem and there are other threads that list the segments and possible reasons why they are so rare.

Regarding Mcafee: I believe it only aired once in September 1989 and never again on NBC or Lifetime. It wasn't Farina-ized or uploaded to Amazon Prime ether. Go figure. A few years ago, someone uploaded it to YouTube. It was obviously a VHS rip of the broadcast. I contactecd the poster and offered him pretty much everything except my soul and first born in exchange for a physical copy but he ever wrote back.

I think this topic of "lost" or altered segments has been discussed ad nausem and there are other threads that list the segments and possible reasons why they are so rare.

Regarding Mcafee: I believe it only aired once in September 1989 and never again on NBC or Lifetime. It wasn't Farina-ized or uploaded to Amazon Prime ether. Go figure. A few years ago, someone uploaded it to YouTube. It was obviously a VHS rip of the broadcast. I contactecd the poster and offered him pretty much everything except my soul and first born in exchange for a physical copy but he ever wrote back.

Darn, that's a shame. Too bad someone didn't rip it from youtube while it was hosted.

Darn, that's a shame. Too bad someone didn't rip it from youtube while it was hosted.

I tried this. The quality sucks rocks.

Does anyone have that case where the Lost Loves lady ran into some legal stuff? (I think its mentioned in the first page itself)

No, they're referring to this case:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/David_Tyll_and_Brian_Ognjan

Two hunters who vanished and were profiled in the quick "10 missing persons" segment. I believe that this quick alert for the 10 people only aired once.

Indeed. I saw it on the secret YouTube account just before Cosgrove & Mauer finally discovered it and had it removed. :rolleyes:

This was a local case for me. The two men were from St. Clair Shores, about 20 miles from where I grew up. I was in kindergarten when they disappeared.

I can't imagine being a loved one of those two men. To go 18 years knowing nothing and then to find out how they were killed and the fact that the killers bragged about feeding their remains to their pigs. It's something straight out of a horror movie.

Indeed. I saw it on the secret YouTube account just before Cosgrove & Mauer finally discovered it and had it removed. :rolleyes:

This was a local case for me. The two men were from St. Clair Shores, about 20 miles from where I grew up. I was in kindergarten when they disappeared.

I can't imagine being a loved one of those two men. To go 18 years knowing nothing and then to find out how they were killed and the fact that the killers bragged about feeding their remains to their pigs. It's something straight out of a horror movie.

This is the one I was thinking of. Not sure why I thought it was the Tennessee ATV murders, though.

If I recall, there was information that one of the perps stomped on one of the victim's head until it exploded "like a pumpkin." Not sure where I read that, but it bothered the hell out of me....

This is the one I was thinking of. Not sure why I thought it was the Tennessee ATV murders, though.

If I recall, there was information that one of the perps stomped on one of the victim's head until it exploded "like a pumpkin." Not sure where I read that, but it bothered the hell out of me....

Something along those lines.

The men were seen extremely intoxicated in a bar by a bunch of locals. Barbra B. just happened to be in the bar. She was a town drunk and had had more than a few drinks that night. However, eighteen years later, when talking to police, she assured them that she held her alcohol well and knew everything that happened that night. Also, in the bar were the Duvall brothers - Raymond and Donald - also known as Coco and Jr. Barbra over heard them talking about beating the stumbling hunters to death and feeding them to their pigs because, "pigs have to eat too." That night, Barbra and a friend she was with at the bar left and stumbled home to her friend's house. Once they got there, they heard noises outside so they peaked to see what was going on. They were pleads for help... coming from David Tyll and Brian Ognjan. Coco and Jr. had baseball bats in their hands. According to Barbara, Coco swung the bat, first at David Tyll, and "his head just disappeared." Brian got away but it didn't take long for them to catch him. They stood him up and said, "Look, he peed his pants." Then, they swung at him resulting in the loss of his life as well.

It’s the stuff of horror stories. A police officer would later rightly call it “three levels below Deliverance,” that nightmarish movie about backwoods inbreeds who stalk and assault a group of guys on a river trip. I’ve been around people like this in another state. They think they’re a law unto themselves. They might make people disappear and think nothing of it.

Everyone knew about the Duvall brothers, Raymond “J.R.” and Donald “Coco.” They raised pigs “parted out” stolen cars, and stole electricity. People feared them, including wives and ex-girlfriends. Coco and J.R. drank heavily and got into frequent brawls. They threatened people and hated strangers coming into their territory.

http://theprettylieortheuglytruth.blogspot.com/2013/11/blast-from-past-horrific-crime-haunts.html

Something along those lines.



It’s the stuff of horror stories. A police officer would later rightly call it “three levels below Deliverance,” that nightmarish movie about backwoods inbreeds who stalk and assault a group of guys on a river trip. I’ve been around people like this in another state. They think they’re a law unto themselves. They might make people disappear and think nothing of it.

Everyone knew about the Duvall brothers, Raymond “J.R.” and Donald “Coco.” They raised pigs “parted out” stolen cars, and stole electricity. People feared them, including wives and ex-girlfriends. Coco and J.R. drank heavily and got into frequent brawls. They threatened people and hated strangers coming into their territory.

http://theprettylieortheuglytruth.blogspot.com/2013/11/blast-from-past-horrific-crime-haunts.html

Yep. That's it. Shudder.

Subject of one of the better true crime books I've read: Darker Than the Night.

Subject of one of the better true crime books I've read: Darker Than the Night.

I just ordered it off of Amazon. All the reviews were really good too. I look forward to reading it.

I'm pretty sure I watched the "Debbie" segment numerous times on Lifetime reruns.

Also, this segment is on Amazon Video, (yes, they did take out the racial remark by Stack)

It's in Season 3, Episode 12, timestamp 26:55.

Curiosity is piqued. Does anyone remember what RS said?

Curiosity is piqued. Does anyone remember what RS said?

It wasn't anything nearly as controversial as some here have made it out to be.

PARAPHRASING: He made a simple comment about how the racial situation in the segment (black male raping a white woman) wasn't actually the norm and that rape tends to happen within racial groups and the point of the segment wasn't to spread racial fears but to obtain justice for the victim.

For some reason, the idea of NOT spreading racial fear offends some members of this board. A few posters had a problem with RS making that disclaimer. I have no idea why but they do.

It wasn't anything nearly as controversial as some here have made it out to be.

PARAPHRASING: He made a simple comment about how the racial situation in the segment (black male raping a white woman) wasn't actually the norm and that rape tends to happen within racial groups and the point of the segment wasn't to spread racial fears but to obtain justice for the victim.

For some reason, the idea of NOT spreading racial fear offends some members of this board. A few posters had a problem with RS making that disclaimer. I have no idea why but they do.

Was it that racist bodybuilder dude?

Was it that racist bodybuilder dude?

Oh God. Let's not re-live those days on the board. :lol: That guy hijacked every thread.

I don’t remember which season it was but the Monica Bonilla segment wasn’t really shown either

I believe the Doyle Wheeler segment only aired once due to Donovan Jacobs trying to sue UM because he disliked the way he was portrayed. This is based on something I've read on these forums, so I'm not 100% sure it's factual. Would love to have more information about it.
I know the Doyle Wheeler segment aired a second time late in season 2. Robert Stack mentions it in a preview for the next week's episode.

Don't want to jinx it or get it taken down, but you can view the Todd McAfee segment easily now on a certain forbidden site that is not to be named.

Hopefully Cosgrove Muerer isn't taking down videos as much lately now that FilmRise has the rights.

I know the Doyle Wheeler segment aired a second time late in season 2. Robert Stack mentions it in a preview for the next week's episode.

Interesting. Thanks for the information!

Don't want to jinx it or get it taken down, but you can view the Todd McAfee segment easily now on a certain forbidden site that is not to be named.

Thank you for this! It was cool to see this case again for the first time in many years.

Don't want to jinx it or get it taken down, but you can view the Todd McAfee segment easily now on a certain forbidden site that is not to be named.

Hopefully Cosgrove Muerer isn't taking down videos as much lately now that FilmRise has the rights.
That's the same version I have (missing the first few seconds).

Interesting. Thanks for the information!
It was the April 11, 1990 broadcast.

Thank you for this! It was cool to see this case again for the first time in many years.

You're welcome! I really wanted to see it again and was delighted to find it. I just had to share.

It was the April 11, 1990 broadcast.

Thank you! I'm going to check to see if I have that one stored somewhere...

Does anyone know why the Todd McAfee segment is (or was) rare?

I don't remember seeing it during UM's original run or the Lifetime era, so I watched it on the forbidden site just now and while it's interesting, it doesn't strike me as particularly controversial in any way (no racial remarks by Stack, etc.)

Just curious!

Does anyone know why the Todd McAfee segment is (or was) rare?

I don't remember seeing it during UM's original run or the Lifetime era, so I watched it on the forbidden site just now and while it's interesting, it doesn't strike me as particularly controversial in any way (no racial remarks by Stack, etc.)

Just curious!

I just saw it for the first time today and I agree, I can't figure out why it only aired once, thus being rare. It's still unsolved today so surely it deserved to be aired frequently as all the other unsolved cases, makes you wonder why this was an exception.

Perhaps maybe the family didn't want too much coverage, perhaps the first airing brought in many leads (false ones) and it was too painful to endure new information especially being dead ends and somehow they gave up in terms of any hope in solving. Only a theory, the segment didn't mention his family nor does the wiki UM page. Yeah, I just can't see why this one was aired just once and all others were repeated. :confused:

Does anyone know why the Todd McAfee segment is (or was) rare?

I don't remember seeing it during UM's original run or the Lifetime era, so I watched it on the forbidden site just now and while it's interesting, it doesn't strike me as particularly controversial in any way (no racial remarks by Stack, etc.)

Just curious!

The only thing I could think of was that law enforcement asked them to not re-air it because the of the "creepy people" that the witness saw had absolutely nothing to do with McAfee's murder and didn't want to deal with more tips about these people. From reading some articles about McAfee's murder, I think law enforcement suspected McAfee's housekeeper early on, but the UM segment makes no mention of her.

Only a theory, the segment didn't mention his family nor does the wiki UM page. Yeah, I just can't see why this one was aired just once and all others were repeated. :confused:

Todd's father was interviewed at the beginning of the segment.

People often talk about the Brazos River Attackers segment. Is it on the forbidden site?

The live shows with the phone reunions were just awkward and uncomfortable for everyone involved

People often talk about the Brazos River Attackers segment. Is it on the forbidden site?
No it's not. But I do know a place where you can view it.

The only thing I could think of was that law enforcement asked them to not re-air it because the of the "creepy people" that the witness saw had absolutely nothing to do with McAfee's murder and didn't want to deal with more tips about these people. From reading some articles about McAfee's murder, I think law enforcement suspected McAfee's housekeeper early on, but the UM segment makes no mention of her.

From what I’ve read, it sounds like Todd’s murder was solved, but looks to have been thrown out due to red tape.

No it's not. But I do know a place where you can view it.

I'd love to see it if it isn't too much trouble

From what I’ve read, it sounds like Todd’s murder was solved, but looks to have been thrown out due to red tape.

It's still unsolved. They know who did it, but due to uncooperative witnesses, they dropped charges and haven't filed them since the early 90's.

This has probably already been said but Pamela Bailey/Marlena Childress.

It's still unsolved. They know who did it, but due to uncooperative witnesses, they dropped charges and haven't filed them since the early 90's.

So solved, unofficially.

So solved, unofficially.

Not until someone is convicted. His housekeeper's husband sold a man one of McAfee's missing weapons, and had access to an orange van. He had no reasonable explanation as to how he wound up with McAfee's weapons. The housekeeper was arrested and charged (I think they were trying to scare her into testifying against her husband), but the charges were dropped when she wouldn't cooperate. The husband was never charged. How the police dropped the ball on this one makes no sense to me.

No it's not. But I do know a place where you can view it.

This is definitely an MIA segment for me. If you know where to find it, please let us know. Since this was a hoax, it will likely never air again.

I've been wondering where my Todd Mcafee segment came from, and I must've got it from YT. Also, if anyone has a high quality Mike Riemer/Diana Roberston. I have a poor quality version if anyone hasn't seen it yet.

No it's not. But I do know a place where you can view it.

I'd be interested in watching that one please as I've only heard of it recently.

OK,this only aired once as a 'bumper' with no film footage but just stock photos but here it goes.

A girl eloped with a salesman around 1940- and was NEVER heard from again by her family but they were trying to find out what became of her. As best they could tell she lived in Atlanta in the late 1940's but where she went afterwards was a mystery. What was extra bizarre was that she had an identical twin whose contemporary picture (as an older woman in the 1990s) DID get shown but I never heard whether this led to any new info about the girl much less whether the family ever found about her fate. Does anyone recall the case or if it ever got resolved?

OK,this only aired once as a 'bumper' with no film footage but just stock photos but here it goes.

A girl eloped with a salesman around 1940- and was NEVER heard from again by her family but they were trying to find out what became of her. As best they could tell she lived in Atlanta in the late 1940's but where she went afterwards was a mystery. What was extra bizarre was that she had an identical twin whose contemporary picture (as an older woman in the 1990s) DID get shown but I never heard whether this led to any new info about the girl much less whether the family ever found about her fate. Does anyone recall the case or if it ever got resolved?

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Ellie_Taylor

Seems it was never solved, according to the UM wiki.

This is definitely an MIA segment for me. If you know where to find it, please let us know. Since this was a hoax, it will likely never air again.
Where did you hear Brazos was a hoax?

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Ellie_Taylor

Seems it was never solved, according to the UM wiki.

Thanks for the link! While Ellie Taylor Richland's fate has never been clarified after 1941 (at age 24), I was able to find out that her twin sister Nellie Taylor Semple McClutcheon would live to 2008 before dying at age 90. According to the Find-a-Grave, Mrs. McClutcheon was widowed twice and was survived by two children, three grandchildren and a set triplet great-grandchildren! I wonder if Mrs. McClutcheon's having been one of twins might have made her own granddaughter more predisposed to having a multiple birth than otherwise. At least she was able to live a full life and live to a ripe old age so I hope that gave Mrs. McClutcheon some comfort in spite of having never found out her twin's fate!