Unsolved Mysteries had many episodes on faith healing, miracles, miracles of lourdres, miracle healing, prayers, ufo healing

any one had any personal success with prayer and healing, healing miracles?

someone close to me was recently diagnosed with alzheimer's.
she is taking namenda and aricept generic. overall, prognsis is grim.

can prayer and supernatural miracles be of help here?

Call me a skeptic but I still gotta say this anyway. You don't see 'faith' healers employed by hospitals for the same reason you don't see psychics winning at gambling.

you know what robert stacks would say

Call me a skeptic but I still gotta say this anyway. You don't see 'faith' healers employed by hospitals for the same reason you don't see psychics winning at gambling.


Ditto

Only Peter Popoff's Miracle Spring Water & Kerney Thomas's Prayer Hankie work.

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Unsolved Mysteries had many episodes on faith healing, miracles, miracles of lourdres, miracle healing, prayers, ufo healing

any one had any personal success with prayer and healing, healing miracles?

someone close to me was recently diagnosed with alzheimer's.
she is taking namenda and aricept generic. overall, prognsis is grim.

can prayer and supernatural miracles be of help here?


you can't prove they don't work

you can't prove they don't work

"they work bc they felt like it"


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Freakbook,

Refresh my memory. Who is that in your avatar?

I think people who believe in such matters can find some comfort in these practices of their beliefs when it comes to difficult situations.

However, if it were that simple, we wouldn't need healthcare.

There are scientific explanations for everything, even if the science is not fully understood or explored yet.

Freakbook,

Refresh my memory. Who is that in your avatar?

Hilary Powers from the Kurt Mcfall segment a.k.a SCA babe.

Hilary Powers from the Kurt Mcfall segment a.k.a SCA babe.

That's actually quite funny. Probably the most oddly dressed UM interviewee

That's actually quite funny. Probably the most oddly dressed UM interviewee

Lol, I didn't think this avatar would get that much attention. I just thought it was funny.

statistically "the power of prayer" has been proven to have a positive effect - whether it is due to some greater power, a placebo effect, or other factors is irrelevant; if the person believes that it works it gives them hope and that in itself can be beneficial to healing.

mind you, faith-based healing by itself probably isn't going to cure cancer or some other fatal disease, but as long as the person isn't giving away all their money to some con man or foregoing other medical options what's the harm?

statistically "the power of prayer" has been proven to have a positive effect - whether it is due to some greater power, a placebo effect, or other factors is irrelevant; if the person believes that it works it gives them hope and that in itself can be beneficial to healing.

mind you, faith-based healing by itself probably isn't going to cure cancer or some other fatal disease, but as long as the person isn't giving away all their money to some con man or foregoing other medical options what's the harm?

I agree with this. If it is faith-based or just the power of the mind and it helps, I am all for it. The power of positive thinking can do a lot towards making people better.

However, if it is a scam or if it is being done in lieu of real treatment, then I have a huge issue. The "faith healers" who scammed people deserve to burn for eternity. I can't remember the name of the guy in the UM case, but he felt his mom was being scammed by a faith healer so he went to see him. He proved the healer was fake but his mom never forgave him for it. She died still mad at her son who was trying to help her get real treatment.

Prayer, meditation, positive thinking, therapeutic touch, etc. are all fine IF they are done in addition to a real medical plan from a certified physician.

However, if it is a scam or if it is being done in lieu of real treatment, then I have a huge issue. The "faith healers" who scammed people deserve to burn for eternity. I can't remember the name of the guy in the UM case, but he felt his mom was being scammed by a faith healer so he went to see him. He proved the healer was fake but his mom never forgave him for it. She died still mad at her son who was trying to help her get real treatment.

Prayer, meditation, positive thinking, therapeutic touch, etc. are all fine IF they are done in addition to a real medical plan from a certified physician.

I agree tenfold. Prayer, hope, etc are fine, but the issue with "faith healers" is that most are just scamming the victims. And most faith healers are manipulative, so they'll try to get the patient to believe that only they can heal them, and doctors/medicine can't. Superstition/OCD should only be allowed to go so far.

Hilary Powers from the Kurt Mcfall segment a.k.a SCA babe.

Hilary Powers today LOL! Says "former president of SCA"!! https://www.facebook.com/hilary.powers.16

Hilary Powers today LOL! Says "former president of SCA"!! https://www.facebook.com/hilary.powers.16

Lmao. She should be proud of that. The thousands of dragons, and nerds that have seen the end of her blood-drenched sword should be an eternal badge of honor. M'Lady is a warrior, and a hero.

While you're at it, you can purchase the dragons she slayed in combat that she turned into accesories: https://www.etsy.com/shop/SalamanderFeltworks

Hilary Powers today LOL! Says "former president of SCA"!! https://www.facebook.com/hilary.powers.16

Holy Cow. This made my night.

I'm suddenly reminded of Queen Diane Sawyer exposing televangelist Robert Tilton on Primetime back in 1993. (Tis on the forbidden site)

Btw the case your referring to is the Maganos

https://www.etsy.com/shop/SalamanderFeltworks

WTF did I just read. That is..I don't know, just WTF

WTF did I just read. That is..I don't know, just WTF

Yeah, I have no clue. That is the nastiest thing I've ever seen.

http://www.salfelt.com/

I love how she refers to herself as "the Salamander". From slaying nerds to stuffing birds. Hilary has stole my heart.

I can't remember the name of the guy in the UM case, but he felt his mom was being scammed by a faith healer so he went to see him. He proved the healer was fake but his mom never forgave him for it. She died still mad at her son who was trying to help her get real treatment.


This was the Gary Magno segment. Basically, he said he could reach inside your body and pull tumors out without cutting you open. Despicable.

someone close to me was recently diagnosed with alzheimer's.
she is taking namenda and aricept generic. overall, prognsis is grim.

can prayer and supernatural miracles be of help here?
Yes of course prayer can be of help. It can help give a person strength to endure what they're struggling with.

As for a miracle, well that's the tricky part.

you can't prove they don't work

That's pretty damn weak reasoning. By that logic, since I can't prove that you don't regularly have sex with donkeys, then you must regularly have sex with donkeys. :rolleyes:

Feel a need to point out that most so-called faith healers seem to specialize in cases where there are enough fuzzy details to provide them an air of plausibility. You don't see an amputee magically regrowing a missing limb in front of a cheering crowd.

That's pretty damn weak reasoning. By that logic, since I can't prove that you don't regularly have sex with donkeys, then you must regularly have sex with donkeys. :rolleyes:

Perhaps I shouldn't speak for him, but I'd bet real money Todd M was being facetious.

Perhaps I shouldn't speak for him, but I'd bet real money Todd M was being facetious.


I'd toss a five spot in that kitty.

That's pretty damn weak reasoning. By that logic, since I can't prove that you don't regularly have sex with donkeys, then you must regularly have sex with donkeys. :rolleyes:

Feel a need to point out that most so-called faith healers seem to specialize in cases where there are enough fuzzy details to provide them an air of plausibility. You don't see an amputee magically regrowing a missing limb in front of a cheering crowd.

Hahaha! Yes, sorry... I was being funny. That was an inside joke based on one of the JonBenet Ramsey threads. Sorry for the confusion! :lol:

This was the Gary Magno segment. Basically, he said he could reach inside your body and pull tumors out without cutting you open. Despicable.

Yes -- that's it! Thank you. Yes, Magno was a real scumbag. It's horrible what he did and how much people (and their families) suffered.

Sorry Todd, I must have gotten you mixed up with neo or I forgot to change the batteries on my sarcasm detector. I'm sure you don't do anything unnatural with donkeys or any non-human animals.

Now that I've committed the greatest sin, being wrong on the Internet, I shall go flog myself for my insolence.:crazy:

i was responding to an equally absured claim of what an intruder in the jonbenet case would not leave a ransom note on the stairs, therefore there was no intruder

I think it's important to distinguish specific "faith healers" who are exposed as frauds from miracles in of themselves. Miracles by nature inexplicable events.

I know from the Lourdes segment, the one woman Jeanne Fretel, they mentioned she did undergo official medical examination before her incident was declared a "miracle". Furthermore, as a result of the incident she became a nun and nurse dedicated to helping others dealing with crippling illnesses.

While externally verifying such incidents or experiences is impossible, we can judge probability and sincerity from the aftermath actions of people making such claims. Somebody who as a result of miraculous experience decides to devote themselves selflessly to others can be judged more credibly than somebody who makes such claims only to scam others.

Furthermore going back to Jeanne Fretel, she openly stated she didn't care if anybody believed her story.

I had a nasty cold a few weeks ago. I was hoping that tiny UFO would show up.

Interesting that comedian Andy Kaufmann traveled to the Philippines and had psychic surgery performed on him before he ultimately died. He was a new age believer, I wonder if he ever encountered Gary Magno?