What missing Amazon segments do you miss the most and really wish they would've been released?

Here are mine:

Season 1:
Tallman House
Mike Reimer
Todd McAfee


Season 2:
Tara Calico
Mark Groezinger
David Fisher
Bonnie Wilder
The Maples (Kristi & Bobby Baskin)
Dale Hyde


Season 3:
Bobbi Oberholtzer & Annette Schnee (orange socks)


Season 4:
Tommy Gibson
Sherry Eyerly
Pat Farmer


Season 5:
Eileen Mangold
Eva Shoen (U-Haul)
Tina Resch
Bashir Kouchaji


Season 6:
Pam Page
Jerry Gerbasoni
Wadada

The Countless!

What missing Amazon segments do you miss the most and really wish they would've been released?

Season 6:
Pam Page
Jerry Gerbasoni
Wadada

Jerry Gerbasoni is on there. Episode 3.

Jerry Gerbasoni is on there. Episode 3.
Oh good. According to the missing segment log on this site, he was listed.


I also just discovered that "Tallman House" is on the Ghosts set released by First Look. Weird it made it to DVD but not streaming.

I liked to watch the orange socks segment as well as the story about Estelle. Ive always wondered what happened to her and if shes still alive

The Bashir one definitely and the Joe Owens case too.

Tara Calico and Orange Socks. Those are classics, and it's a real shame they're missing.

A few more came to mind, George Owens and the segment on Bashir Kouchacji (L'Fant). I dont think this is on any of the segments or the upcoming ones (correct me if Im wrong)

Tara Calico and Orange Socks. Those are classics, and it's a real shame they're missing.

The Orange Sock murders are, to me, the type of case that made UM great. It is an unexplained death(s) with a huge, bizarre twist. I think of this case and Charles Morgan as two of my favorite cases. I hope it eventually does show up on Amazon.

Olberholtzer/Schnee (Orange Sock Murders) is definitely at the very top of the list and it frankly isn't even close. It's an unconscionable travesty that it was omitted for any reason. This one has to be one of the top ten UM segments ever made when you consider all facets of it. Excellent production, creepy/scary setting, two seemingly unrelated victims, one suspect that knew them both yet clearly didn't do it, no real person of interest, still unsolved, etc. This one damn sure better be included to help fill the gaps in later seasons otherwise it will be a huge disappointment to say the least. It's definitely somewhere in the Farina episodes, so rights or whatever clearly aren't an issue.

Having said all that, the other segments in my baker's dozen that were omitted that I'd most like to see added are:

1. Diana Robertson/Mike Riemer (very interesting case that now has new leads)
2. Tara Calico/Michael Henley (even though the photo is very likely not her, it's still an iconic UM image/story)
3. Tallman's Ghost (I'm not a big fan of the ghost stories, but this is probably the very best one. I have the First Look DVD that it is included on so if I really want to watch it, I still can. It's still a super classic season one segment that everyone remembers so it should be included)
4. Mark Groezinger (UM profiled plenty of men accused of killing their spouses but this one is the complete opposite which was a nice change of pace)
5. Wadada (just a strange character that is impossible to forget)
6. Bonnie Wilder (this was an ENORMOUS omission, enough said)
7. Doyle Wheeler (I found this one interesting and it seems to be quite rare as I haven't seen it in a very long time)
8. Morris Davis (this one fascinated the hell out of me. Was likely omitted due to half of the segment featuring law enforcement chasing a false lead)
9. Sacramento Thrill Killer (sure, it's been solved for a very long time but segments like this one and Morris Davis with random killers are signature UM that scared the crap out of you)
10. George Owens (I just felt so bad for this poor old man, nearly broke my heart)
11. L'enfant Phone Calls (just plain weird and creepy)
12. Gulf Breeze UFO (I'm not really into the UFO segments by and large, but this was the very first one UM ever profiled and went down in history as a great hoax)

6. Bonnie Wilder (this was an ENORMOUS omission, enough said)

Maybe they lost her? :D :D

8. Morris Davis (this one fascinated the hell out of me. Was likely omitted due to half of the segment featuring law enforcement chasing a false lead)

I'm also bugged this one was omitted.

And yes, I agree with you re: Schnee/Oberholtzer and Riemer/Robertson. Both fascinating cases that deserve all the attention they can get. And both classic UM segments.

Supposedly The Mike Reimer and Diane Robertson case is coming at some point, at least that's what the official site says.

Some of the Final Appeal segments like Jeffrey MacDonald, Luis Diaz, Paul Ferrell, and Steve Shores are missing. They are on the Farina version so I don't get it

Supposedly The Mike Reimer and Diane Robertson case is coming at some point, at least that's what the official site says.
Hopefully they will.

I've also been trying to see if there are any segments included on the First Look sets that are not on Amazon. So far the "Tallman House" and "Face on Mars" are on FL but not Amazon...

Some of the Final Appeal segments like Jeffrey MacDonald, Luis Diaz, Paul Ferrell, and Steve Shores are missing. They are on the Farina version so I don't get it

MacDonald, Ferrell, Shores, Miller, Montecalvo, and Drake were all episodes of the short-lived Final Appeal miniseries and never had their own UM segments. They were worked in to the Farina version. Unfortunately, CM has indicated they have no plans to release Final Appeal to streaming, so we likely will not get these.

MacDonald, Ferrell, Shores, Miller, Montecalvo, and Drake were all episodes of the short-lived Final Appeal miniseries and never had their own UM segments. They were worked in to the Farina version. Unfortunately, CM has indicated they have no plans to release Final Appeal to streaming, so we likely will not get these.

From what I remember, the only one that made it to Lifetime reruns (with Stack) is the MacDonald segment.

In addition to the ones already listed here, I also miss the Freedom II segment and the death of "William Toomey". I also confess to feeling sad that the Gulf Breeze UFO segment wasn't uploaded because even though it was revealed to be a hoax and UM probably wants to distance themselves from the case, it's still fascinating to watch.

Of course, next week, The Trail Went Cold will be doing another episode about one of these missing cases. I almost accept it as a challenge when Filmrise does this ;) .

I also confess to feeling sad that the Gulf Breeze UFO segment wasn't uploaded because even though it was revealed to be a hoax and UM probably wants to distance themselves from the case, it's still fascinating to watch.

I think this might be the only segment I've never seen.

From what I remember, the only one that made it to Lifetime reruns (with Stack) is the MacDonald segment.

Yeah, for some odd reason the MacDonald and accompanying Port of Chicago stories were shown on UM in the early to mid-2000s. They were edited in such a way as to obliterate any reference to the Final Appeal series and they played out much like any other standard episode of UM.

Yeah, for some odd reason the MacDonald and accompanying Port of Chicago stories were shown on UM in the early to mid-2000s. They were edited in such a way as to obliterate any reference to the Final Appeal series and they played out much like any other standard episode of UM.

Which begs the question why they didn't do that with the other Final Appeal segments.

There's a lot of segments that I've never seen. I was hoping they'd include them all but NO, they couldn't do that.

I've never seen the Gulf Breeze UFO, Bonnie Wilder, Todd McAfee, or Tara Calico segments, among others.

6. Bonnie Wilder (this was an ENORMOUS omission, enough said)

An ENORMOUS oversight on their part.

Filmrise did not include Tara Calico? That is shocking! I believe there is a podcast right now that delves into her disappearance.

Although it's been mentioned in other posts, Filmrise has not released anything from the pre stack era.

I obviously have to plug Don Kemp in this one. I am still fascinated with his case and really hope that we see it streaming somehow in a future episode.

I feel that if Filmrise realizes that there are episodes missing, maybe for nostalgic purposes they will be one day be released.

In addition to the ones already listed here, I also miss the Freedom II segment and the death of "William Toomey". I also confess to feeling sad that the Gulf Breeze UFO segment wasn't uploaded because even though it was revealed to be a hoax and UM probably wants to distance themselves from the case, it's still fascinating to watch.

Of course, next week, The Trail Went Cold will be doing another episode about one of these missing cases. I almost accept it as a challenge when Filmrise does this ;) .


have the feeling it is Tara Calico.


that segment was no doubt removed since a lot of it is outdated. The Michael Henley aspect and the fact it seems that no one involved in this case seem to believe the Polaroid is Tara anymore

MacDonald, Ferrell, Shores, Miller, Montecalvo, and Drake were all episodes of the short-lived Final Appeal miniseries and never had their own UM segments. They were worked in to the Farina version. Unfortunately, CM has indicated they have no plans to release Final Appeal to streaming, so we likely will not get these.




If they are on the Farina version then why can't they release the Stack versions? It makes no sense. That also doesn't explain the Diaz segment since that was part of the actual series I believe

Just out of curiosity, I double checked my 45 disc UM segments set that I got from ioffer and as I suspected, no Tara Calico, Todd McAfee, or Bonnie Wilder :( .

Just out of curiosity, I double checked my 45 disc UM segments set that I got from ioffer and as I suspected, no Tara Calico, Todd McAfee, or Bonnie Wilder :( .

The Todd McAfee segment is one I have never seen before! I will try and do some hunting later today.

In addition to the ones already listed here, I also miss the Freedom II segment and the death of "William Toomey". I also confess to feeling sad that the Gulf Breeze UFO segment wasn't uploaded because even though it was revealed to be a hoax and UM probably wants to distance themselves from the case, it's still fascinating to watch.

Of course, next week, The Trail Went Cold will be doing another episode about one of these missing cases. I almost accept it as a challenge when Filmrise does this ;) .

William Toomey should be reaired. In case he hasnt been identified. I know it's been years since he passed but you never know. Maybe someone watching might recognize him or remember a family member speak about him? Just a thought

The Todd McAfee segment is one I have never seen before! I will try and do some hunting later today.

It was a good segment and one that I have no idea why it wasn't shown on Lifetime reruns.

The only time I've ever seen the Todd McAfee segment is when it suddenly popped up out of the blue on Youtube several years ago, but it wasn't long before it was pulled.

Wish they would show that one again since they indicted a suspect, but had to drop the charges because the case was so weak, so it's technically still unsolved:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/LK/20120818/News/605214130/SH/

Which begs the question why they didn't do that with the other Final Appeal segments.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this was not done. The remaining segments were 22 minutes, so they were already formatted for half hour timeslots on TV. They easily could have paired them up and made complete one hour episodes, or even mixed them with other UM segments to make complete episodes. It's strange they didn't. One of the unsolved mysteries of Unsolved Mysteries I guess.

If they are on the Farina version then why can't they release the Stack versions? It makes no sense. That also doesn't explain the Diaz segment since that was part of the actual series I believe

They probably just view "Final Appeal" (the TV series) as being a separate entity at this point. When they were reworking the series with Farina it probably didn't matter that the FA-specific segments weren't UM segments originally since everything got a makeover. Even the Burr and Malden episodes were easily Farina-ized because it wouldn't matter what the source material was. Of course, we know now they won't release the Burr and Malden specials. It is probably a similar thing for Final Appeal. The fact that it is a different series may lead to rights or licensing issues, or they just don't care to go through the trouble of reformatting them to look like UM episodes.

Luis Diaz wasn't shown in the Stack version reruns on Lifetime. I think it was Farina-ized though I can't remember. Regardless, its absence for years makes me wonder if there is something about it that precludes its release and is holding it up even now.

The Todd McAfee segment is one I have never seen before! I will try and do some hunting later today.

As others have mentioned, it was on YouTube years ago. It was obviously a VHS rip of the original NBC broadcast from 1989. I don't think it was ever shown on Lifetime, Farina-ized, or included on Amazon Prime.

I contacted the guy who posted it on YouTube and asked about a trade, but received no response. I'd sure love a hard copy to round off the collection.

They probably just view "Final Appeal" (the TV series) as being a separate entity at this point. When they were reworking the series with Farina it probably didn't matter that the FA-specific segments weren't UM segments originally since everything got a makeover. Even the Burr and Malden episodes were easily Farina-ized because it wouldn't matter what the source material was. Of course, we know now they won't release the Burr and Malden specials. It is probably a similar thing for Final Appeal. The fact that it is a different series may lead to rights or licensing issues, or they just don't care to go through the trouble of reformatting them to look like UM episodes.
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Luis Diaz wasn't shown in the Stack version reruns on Lifetime. I think it was Farina-ized though I can't remember. Regardless, its absence for years makes me wonder if there is something about it that precludes its release and is holding it up even now.




Yep, Diaz is on the Farina version

Just watched the orange socks segment again and am baffled as to why this was left off season 3. This is such a classic.

Bonnie Wilder

Bonnie Wilder
One that I've never seen and would love to.

*Bump on an old thread

Just watched the Bonnie Wilder segment on Y/T.

I think this segment is omitted from the current streaming package because it was poorly edited or produced when it first debuted. Not even 30 seconds into the segment, there's this woman of the department store's personnel director attempting to explain why they had no choice but to hire a "blimp" (my choice of words) because there's a dearth of applicants because of thieves and druggies in the area. The personnel director attempted to deflect any blame for doing any meaningful background checks on this Bonnie Wilder. Additionally, the segment continues to spotlight her weight about 4-5 times during this segment, including a reenactment of tracking a "skinny" Bonnie Wilder in the Midwest and the only dialogue was "My God, how in earth did you lose 100 pounds in a week?"

BTW, I'm a big guy but I'm not overly sensitive about fat jokes. However, I feel this original segment was a bit too honest. And it showed how easily a person could steal someone's identity and how lackadaisical companies were run back in the 1980s.

The Shafaa Salem segment (though it's missing for good reason and she was thankfully reunited with her mother). Her mother Nancy is one of my favorite UM interviewees. I always felt so awful about what she went through and admired how hard she worked to try finding her daughter. Glad this one had a happy update.

Growing up I watched the original broadcasts with my grandparents on Friday nights.

The one about the motorcyclist getting ran down by the guy in the semi. His bike was stuck on the semi and he was thrown in a ditch. He hid in the ditch because he felt the trucker was looking for to kill him. It was a very good segment. I think the guy lost his leg from that accident.

U-Haul segment was a good one as well about the feuding siblings and dad and then the wife of one brother is murdered while at their isolated home in the woods. If I recall correctly someone was finally charged for her murder, but it seemed like a hit to me.

Wadada isn't in the Prime collection either I don't think.

Charles Morgan does show up, as do the cases of Don Devereaux and Danny Casolaro. It's really interesting how they tie all 3 sengments together. It all comes back to Charles Morgan. It's one of my favorite cases, because it's just so intricate. Wish I could solve it though.

As someone who did not see the original runs I can't really say there are any I miss more than others, but I do find it disgraceful that we still don't have the original episodes available for viewing.

Mark Groezinger and Dayle Wheeler.

I know there was a lawsuit with the Doyle Wheeler episode, so I get not showing it, but I don't understand why Mark Groezinger isn't still available.

The segment with the satanic grandma.

The segment with the satanic grandma.

That one falls under family abduction, and FilmRise avoided those like the plague.

There were so many family abduction segments. Many of which I haven't seen in ages. I wish I could view those in clean FilmRise like format.

That one falls under family abduction, and FilmRise avoided those like the plague.

There were so many family abduction segments. Many of which I haven't seen in ages. I wish I could view those in clean FilmRise like format.

Donna Kempton is the only one I can think of that made it to FilmRise, but by the time it aired she was already an adult so the emphasis was on it being a lost loves case (I'm not counting Jonathan Ortiz since that had an attempted murder tied to it).

Maria Socorro De Rodriguez LaPine
The Countess of Cleveland
Bonnie Wilder

Laura Burbank. The first segment I can remember watching.

As a side note, it bugs me that 1) I can't find that segment and 2) there's no info I can find that indicates what became of David Harry Fisher. It's not clear (to me at least) if he was paroled, is still in prison, or is dead.

Laura Burbank. The first segment I can remember watching.

As a side note, it bugs me that 1) I can't find that segment and 2) there's no info I can find that indicates what became of David Harry Fisher. It's not clear (to me at least) if he was paroled, is still in prison, or is dead.

The original NBC broadcast (without update) is at this link. It includes pictures of some other Tacoma girls that went missing and were murdered that Lifetime cut out.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=611135785925553

The original NBC broadcast (without update) is at this link. It includes pictures of some other Tacoma girls that went missing and were murdered that Lifetime cut out.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=611135785925553

You legend!

I second Doyle Wheeler. I think it's a criminally underrated segment.

I also miss a lot of the pre-Stack segments. Nothing like that haunting scene from the Wanda Jean Mays segment showing the search by boat for her body and her mother's voiceover: "I never thought that Wanda was in the water.." That music. I'm getting chills just typing about it.

Gene Flannes.

Laura Burbank. The first segment I can remember watching.

As a side note, it bugs me that 1) I can't find that segment and 2) there's no info I can find that indicates what became of David Harry Fisher. It's not clear (to me at least) if he was paroled, is still in prison, or is dead.

It is infuriating that he was allowed to be given freedom because he was a model prisoner.

Tara Calico
Carol Anderson (identity theft case)

I also miss a lot of the pre-Stack segments. Nothing like that haunting scene from the Wanda Jean Mays segment showing the search by boat for her body and her mother's voiceover: "I never thought that Wanda was in the water.." That music. I'm getting chills just typing about it.

The shot of that woman walking down the road gets me every time.

Crazy Glue Bandit
Joe Owens
David Fisher
Robert Corrado
Tommy Gibson
Jay Durham
Wadada
L'Enfant
Tina Resch
Brazos River Attackers

I consider the above all classics. It's funny because back in the early-mid 2000s, Lifetime had no problem airing the above mentioned segments quite often. I must have seen the "Brazos River Attackers" segment on Lifetime countless times back then. Now it's one of the rarer segments.

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Vicki_Acs

Lost Love segment from the WWII era that was sadly never solved.