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Jeremy Gelbwaks was replaced by Brian Forester in "Partridge Family" and this was an extreme change in that the second boy looked nothing like the first boy who played the character "Chris Partridge."
The only other example of such an extreme change of a cast member was in "Batman' when Eartha Kitt replaced Julie Newmar in playing Catwoman.
I guess one example in which a change of cast was done without the replacement NOT looking anything like the original cast member was when Pat Priest replaced Beverly Owen in The Munsters.
I actually only recently learned that Marilyn Munster was played by 2 different actresses. I might have been too young back then to clearly remember it now.
How about Night Court when both of the female bailiffs died?
Babalu 06-25-2017, 08:37 AM As much of a problem I now have with MASH's politics looking back on the show as an adult, they were very clever with most of their forced cast changes, not have the replacements be carbon copies of the original.
Henry Blake replaced by Sherman Potter
Frank Burns replaced by Charles Winchester
Both were completely different than their predecessors which freshened the series up.
Of course, Trapper John replaced by BJ Hunnicutt was a different story...
broadmoor 06-25-2017, 09:10 AM I always thought the differences between the two Harry Morton's in "Burns and Allen," as played by Fred Clark and Larry Keating, was quite striking. Same character, but they had completely different personalities... Clark being loud, brash and rather lowbrow, and Keating being quiet-mannered, intellectual and aloof.
KatieAnn 06-25-2017, 10:43 AM Dick Sargent replacing Dick York on Bewitched. They didn't look alike and he changed the personality of Darrin, some say he became too bland.
DJM77 06-25-2017, 11:09 AM Dick Sargent replacing Dick York on Bewitched. They didn't look alike
I always thought they kind of did. Maybe it was just me.
tlc38tlc38 06-25-2017, 11:28 AM The only cast changes that really bother me are Harriette Winslow (Family Matters) & Quentin Kelly (Grace Under Fire).
DJM77 06-25-2017, 12:56 PM The only cast changes that really bother me are Harriette Winslow (Family Matters) & Quentin Kelly (Grace Under Fire).
Yeah, those two were both pretty drastic and terrible.
installLSC 06-25-2017, 02:24 PM Dick Sargent replacing Dick York on Bewitched. They didn't look alike and he changed the personality of Darrin, some say he became too bland.
Even more silly was the replacement casting of Gladys Kravitz. How you do go from the skinny, brunette Alice Pearce to the pudgy, redheaded Sandra Gould and expect no one to notice? (I think Pearce was also taller, though I'm not sure.) Plus Gould's Kravitz was much more mean-spirited than Pearce's character.
Babalu 06-25-2017, 04:11 PM Even more silly was the replacement casting of Gladys Kravitz. How you do go from the skinny, brunette Alice Pearce to the pudgy, redheaded Sandra Gould and expect no one to notice? (I think Pearce was also taller, though I'm not sure.) Plus Gould's Kravitz was much more mean-spirited than Pearce's character.
Alice Pearce was perfect but she died. Did you expect them to invent a new nosy neighbor with a different name? I'm sure they wanted to keep George Tobias. Bewitched was a light comedy. I don't think they wanted to get into the first Mrs. Kravitz dying and Abner remarrying.
KatieAnn 06-25-2017, 05:48 PM Even more silly was the replacement casting of Gladys Kravitz. How you do go from the skinny, brunette Alice Pearce to the pudgy, redheaded Sandra Gould and expect no one to notice? (I think Pearce was also taller, though I'm not sure.) Plus Gould's Kravitz was much more mean-spirited than Pearce's character.
Yes, Alice Pearce was a gentle nuisance but loveable and I think the audience could feel badly for her when she freaked out over the shenanigans she witnessed over at Sam's. I never once felt badly for Gould's Mrs. Kravitz. She made the character unlikeable.
Mr. Television 06-25-2017, 07:36 PM I don't think Dick Sargent or Sandra Gould did justice to their characters. I guess they needed to keep the characters alive if the show was to continue but it was never the same especially with Sargent.
Edward216 06-25-2017, 08:25 PM I agree with you DJM77, I think Dick Sargent and Dick York resembled each other a lot too. I think they portrayed Darrin about the same too, others can disagree with me but that's my opinion.
Another one for me is when they replaced the original Colleen on Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman. Originally played by Erika Flores and then she was replaced with Jessica Bowman. I didn't think they looked anything alike. Other than the fact they both had long hair, but even then it wasn't the same color.
Ed.
KatieAnn 06-25-2017, 08:38 PM I find it interesting that anyone could say that Dick York and Dick Sargent resembled each other or portrayed the character the same way. I always thought Dick Sargent was a much milder and calmer Darrin, which I preferred. Dick York's Darrin overreacted in such an over the top way, and also I don't see a physical resemblance at all.
There was no attempt to try to fool the audience into thinking that could be the same actor playing the role of Darrin, which you'd think they might have done, considering he was the co-lead of the show.
Mr. Television 06-25-2017, 08:39 PM I find it interesting that anyone could say that Dick York and Dick Sargent resembled each other or portrayed the character the same way. I always thought Dick Sargent was a much milder and calmer Darrin, which I preferred. Dick York's Darrin overreacted in such an over the top way, and also I don't see a physical resemblance at all.
There was no attempt to try to fool the audience into thinking that could be the same actor playing the role of Darrin, which you'd think they might have done, considering he was the co-lead of the show.
The only time I thought they resembled each other was during the animated opening credits.
UMFaninMD 06-25-2017, 08:58 PM Not a sitcom, but on One Life To Live, they replaced Mia Korf, a Eurasian actress, with blonde, Southern Kassie dePaiva as Blair Kramer. It was a huge shock and Kassie looked and sounded nothing like the other characters who played her mother, aunt, and cousin as they were all brunettes. I can't even remember if they explained the different appearance, I don't think they did. I also thought Mia was a much better actress and was more believable as a villainess.
Babalu 06-26-2017, 06:15 AM I find it interesting that anyone could say that Dick York and Dick Sargent resembled each other or portrayed the character the same way. I always thought Dick Sargent was a much milder and calmer Darrin, which I preferred. Dick York's Darrin overreacted in such an over the top way, and also I don't see a physical resemblance at all.
There was absolutely a physical resemblance between Dick York and Dick Sargent. I can't imagine not being able to see it. Like most fans, I think the casting change killed the show. Darrin needed a personality and Dick Sargent didn't have one.
KatieAnn 06-26-2017, 10:03 AM There was absolutely a physical resemblance between Dick York and Dick Sargent. I can't imagine not being able to see it. Like most fans, I think the casting change killed the show. Darrin needed a personality and Dick Sargent didn't have one.
Other than the fact that they were both male, with similar coloring - brown hair, Caucasian - I don't see it. I would never confuse one for the other. Dick Sargent was long and lean, very slim, and Dick York seemed bigger, more of an average weight. Their hair styles were different, their hair lines were different, Dick York's jawline was much bigger. Dick Sargent looked older to me.
Babalu 06-26-2017, 07:15 PM Other than the fact that they were both male, with similar coloring - brown hair, Caucasian - I don't see it. I would never confuse one for the other. Dick Sargent was long and lean, very slim, and Dick York seemed bigger, more of an average weight. Their hair styles were different, their hair lines were different, Dick York's jawline was much bigger. Dick Sargent looked older to me.
Physical resemblance doesn't mean identical twins.
stevea 06-26-2017, 08:16 PM I always thought the differences between the two Harry Morton's in "Burns and Allen," as played by Fred Clark and Larry Keating, was quite striking. Same character, but they had completely different personalities... Clark being loud, brash and rather lowbrow, and Keating being quiet-mannered, intellectual and aloof.
Yes this was a big change. And, they had different occupations. Also, Fred Clark's version was friendly with George, and Larry Keating's version couldn't stand him.
Of course, in the show's inimitable style, George broke the fourth wall and announced the change to us, while Bea Benadaret froze.
stevea 06-26-2017, 08:18 PM Yeah, those two were both pretty drastic and terrible.
The Quentin change on GUF was ridiculous. There was also a couple years' age difference, wasn't there?
stevea 06-26-2017, 08:24 PM Yes, Alice Pearce was a gentle nuisance but loveable and I think the audience could feel badly for her when she freaked out over the shenanigans she witnessed over at Sam's. I never once felt badly for Gould's Mrs. Kravitz. She made the character unlikeable.
I agree with all the comments about Sandra Gould's Gladys. It probably isn't an acting problem, though. The staff behind the show must have made a decision to change the direction of the character. I'm sure Gould could have done befuddled, but the producers/directors wanted more nosy and annoying. Can't imagine why, though.
DJM77 06-26-2017, 08:30 PM The Quentin change on GUF was ridiculous. There was also a couple years' age difference, wasn't there?
Yeah, there was a couple of years' age difference, but it seemed like even more than that.
KatieAnn 06-26-2017, 08:39 PM Physical resemblance doesn't mean identical twins.
And the only "physical resemblance" between York and Sargent is that they were both Caucasian brunet males. That's not a resemblance as much as it is casting to type.
IllinoisTVFan 06-26-2017, 10:16 PM Add me to the Darrins both looked alike. My mother also felt the same way. As for Gladys Kravitz I can tell the difference but never bothered me. The change that bothered me as a kid was Chris Partridge. These weren't from the original show, but the changes on various Brady Bunch shows and specials bothered me.
JamesG 06-26-2017, 10:25 PM I remember when Megan Fox replaced Nicole Paggi as Sydney on "Hope & Faith".
I think ABC has never revealed the reason for this.
Mr. Television 06-26-2017, 10:31 PM I remember when Megan Fox replaced Nicole Paggi as Sydney on "Hope & Faith".
I think ABC has never revealed the reason for this.
I hated that change.
Mr. Television 06-26-2017, 10:33 PM I think the only cast change I really didn't mind was when Pat Priest replaced Beverly Owen in The Munsters. They looked so much alike anyway.
stevea 06-26-2017, 11:11 PM I think the only cast change I really didn't mind was when Pat Priest replaced Beverly Owen in The Munsters. They looked so much alike anyway.
That's right--why did that happen, anyway?
Mr. Television 06-26-2017, 11:14 PM That's right--why did that happen, anyway?
Beverly wanted to move back east and get married. She really never wanted to do The Munsters anyway. She did the pilot and was shocked it was picked up to series.
Edward216 06-26-2017, 11:15 PM I find it interesting that anyone could say that Dick York and Dick Sargent resembled each other or portrayed the character the same way. I always thought Dick Sargent was a much milder and calmer Darrin, which I preferred. Dick York's Darrin overreacted in such an over the top way, and also I don't see a physical resemblance at all.
There was no attempt to try to fool the audience into thinking that could be the same actor playing the role of Darrin, which you'd think they might have done, considering he was the co-lead of the show.
Fine whatever. We'll just agree to disagree then, I don't care.
Ed.
Torgo 06-26-2017, 11:17 PM I remember when Megan Fox replaced Nicole Paggi as Sydney on "Hope & Faith".
I think ABC has never revealed the reason for this.
I completely forgot Fox took over the role.
Torgo 06-26-2017, 11:26 PM When they replaced George O'Hanlon Jr. for Rick Springfield as Ned Nickerson on The Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Mysteries. Not just a recast of an actor, but suddenly Nancy had never met Ned before, Ned no longer worked for Nancy's dad, I think now he worked for the Government.
JamesG 06-27-2017, 01:53 AM ABC's "Revenge" recasted Hiroyuki Sanada w/ Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa as Satoshi Takeda. Sanada had to drop out due to conflicts w/ Hugh Jackman's The Wolverine.
This one was very bizarre since Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa is a decade older and taller than the original actor. It didn't help that Tagawa was featured in many flashback scenes thus appearing way older than how he originated on Season 1.
stevea 06-27-2017, 07:56 AM This is kind of a stretch, but in the sixth season of Hogan's Heroes, Kenneth Washington replaced Ivan Dixon as one of Hogan's men. There was no explanation on the show, and they had different names (Kinchloe and Baker). Klink still never had an escape from Stalag 13, so we know Kinchloe didn't leave.
KatieAnn 06-27-2017, 08:56 AM Fine whatever. We'll just agree to disagree then, I don't care.
Ed.
I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. Obviously we all have our views and clearly there are people who strongly agree with you. As I said previously, I do find it interesting, probably because I always saw glaring differences between the two Darrins and I suppose I assumed that everyone did, but now I know that's not the case.
Have a good day.
Edward216 06-27-2017, 09:14 PM Like I said I don't really care.
Ed.
KatieAnn 06-27-2017, 09:46 PM I'm glad to re-read that.
scrapple 06-29-2017, 09:06 PM So, they never explained Kinchloe's departure, and he just happens to be replaced by another black POW?
Oh, wasn't "Roger" on "The Mothers In Law" portrayed by two different actors?
I was so much younger but I recall one was noticeably heavyset and had a mustache while the other was bald-headed and seemed older .
If my memory serves me right, then this was also a change of cast in which the replacement actor did not resemble the original one who played the particular character
PhoenixAcres 07-05-2017, 12:26 PM Oh, wasn't "Roger" on "The Mothers In Law" portrayed by two different actors?
I was so much younger but I recall one was noticeably heavyset and had a mustache while the other was bald-headed and seemed older .
If my memory serves me right, then this was also a change of cast in which the replacement actor did not resemble the original one who played the particular character
Roger was played by Roger C. Carmel for the 1967-68 season. He was around 35 at the time. For the 1968-69 season, Richard Deacon assumed the role and was around 47. So you're right, there was a definite change in appearance.
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