Name a time when Ward found out some information that the boys didn't want him to find out. Whether it's from a person or newspaper.

I'll start with Beaver's Skates when Ward found out by the newspaper that the Ice Palace was closed.

Ward found out the boys got the tire Beaver "flatted" fixed, when Eddie Haskell thought he was holding for Wally, but instead Ward came on the phone.

When Beaver fell into Miller's Pond when Wally and his friends made a boat, Ward found out, since the boys put the shoes on the furnace, and there was a smell of drying leather.

When Beaver replaced the golf club Ward had broken, he found out the next weekend, when it was mysteriously fixed.

As the thread says, he always finds out. The only time I can think of when he didn't find out is when Beaver overflowed the tub, and the kitchen ceiling plaster fell down. The only way he found out is when we assume the boys told him, when they were hollering for him to come upstairs.

Ward found out about Lumpy driving back from the track meet with Wally, Beaver, and Eddie, in his car going on the Camelback cutoff that Lumpy drove over a puddle and stalling the engine from Bill Boothby who saw the boys pushing the car back on the main highway.

In Train Trip Ward found out the boys tried to ride for free because they spent all their money on junk. They had the conductor pay for their tickets and will pay him back. Ward found all this out from George Haskell who was on the train.

Ward found out Beaver and his friends called LA and spoke to Don Drysdale on his phone when he saw it in the paper, thanks to June.

Ward was very angry when he comes back from an overnight trip and intercepts a call from Lumpy in Wally's Car Accident. Ward's headlight got smashed and Wally had it fixed. Lumpy spills the beans by telling "Ward" not to mention him being involved. Ward says Wally won't have to as Lumpy already did.

In Yard Birds Ward finds out about the garbage and yard waste Eddie and Lumpy throw on a vacant lot from the property owner

ward was beyond angry when he found out that beaver and larry had wrecked his autographed baseball

Right when Fred read off the names Baby Ruth, Augy Dickey and Kiki Gehrig. Larry certainly wasn't careful with the names. Beaver was a real victim in that one.

How about when Wally and Beaver called the fire dept. to get Benjy and Puddin' out of the bathroom. Ward found out from Mr. Donaldson.

When Beaver got on the wrong bus and ended up back in Mayfield, Ward found out because Wally told him (but let's keep it from June--we know she'd have a cow...). You gotta give the Beaver high fives for resourcefulness in this episode...a 9 year old getting himself back home in a cab, paying the driver and then berating him for trying to collect a tip from a little kid.

That cab driver was the same cabbie who came to pick up a disgruntled Larry when he came to spend the night but then decided he wanted to eat not go to his grandmother's. Mrs. Mondello's mother must have been ancient.

IMO, it would have made more sense if Ward just ONCE didn't find out about something- if for no other reason, than to give the boys the idea that they COULD get away with stuff instead of doing it with zero history of NOT getting caught.

...Mrs. Mondello's mother must have been ancient.

LOL. Never thought of that!

IMO, it would have made more sense if Ward just ONCE didn't find out about something- if for no other reason, than to give the boys the idea that they COULD get away with stuff instead of doing it with zero history of NOT getting caught.

True! We came close when Beaver solved his problem with the modeling contract by going to Ward's attorney friend. Although Ward found out (when the attorney called and told him), it was after the fact.

Well, another one (probably the one that started this pattern)--Train Trip--on the way back from Riverside (is that right?--I think I made a mistake before on where Aunt Martha lives) the boys ran out of money due to buying too much junk, and only had tickets to Bellport. Beaver told a pack of lies to the conductor, but Wally eventually came clean. The conductor bought the tickets to Mayfield.

Unbeknownst to the boys, George Haskell just happened to be on the train, and relayed the story to Ward. So once again, Ward finds out...he ALWAYS finds out!

ward was beyond angry when he found out that beaver and larry had wrecked his autographed baseball


That's the one I remember best. Baby Ruth!

I wish that Ward had become angry with George Haskell by telling Haskell that he should have offered to pay for the boys' tickets when the conductor came to collect the money, instead of just sitting there and getting a big laugh out of it.

I am sure that if Eddie was in the same situation as Wally and Beaver were on that train, that Ward or June would have interceded in Eddie's behalf and paid for the train ticket.

George Haskell came off as a real jerk in that situation, imo.

I never thought of that. George Haskell knew the boys and should have stepped in. I wonder why he didn't. Probably so we could see the generous old conductor give them a break.

Ward finds out from Mr. Doyle that Beaver was dropped from the basketball team. Unfortunately Fred is there to gloat about it which embarrasses Ward. Beaver had been pretending to be at practice.

I echo Scrabjan1, Uncle Billy. Excellent post...I never thought of that, either!

Some "adult", sees boys he knows having a problem, and just sits back and watches the "fun."

Wow, never thought of that either. He most definitely should have helped them.

And George thought that June would be "amused" by hearing all about the boys' experience on the train.

I can't blame Ward for NOT wanting big mouth George to "regale" June with a story which Ward knew would only get June very upset.

In Train Trip Ward found out the boys tried to ride for free because they spent all their money on junk. They had the conductor pay for their tickets and will pay him back. Ward found all this out from George Haskell who was on the train.


As I know we've mentioned before, George Haskell should have paid for the boys' fare to Mayfield.

And I'm not sure we've mentioned this before, but Aunt Martha should have made sure they had tickets.

As the thread says, he always finds out. The only time I can think of when he didn't find out is when Beaver overflowed the tub, and the kitchen ceiling plaster fell down. The only way he found out is when we assume the boys told him, when they were hollering for him to come upstairs.

On Uncle Billy's visit, Ward never found out that Beaver helped his friend sneak into the movie, because Uncle Billy couldn't see any reason to tell him, because beaver already got caught and punished.

Ward was very angry when he comes back from an overnight trip and intercepts a call from Lumpy in Wally's Car Accident. Ward's headlight got smashed and Wally had it fixed. Lumpy spills the beans by telling "Ward" not to mention him being involved. Ward says Wally won't have to as Lumpy already did.

But, even before Lumpy called, Wally had made up his mind that he was going to tell Ward.

Also, when Wally was going to go away for a weekend with Lumpy and Scott, Ward found out from Fred that there was going to be no adult supervision, but Wally told Ward anyway not knowing he already knew.

And, when Beaver won the bicycle, Ward found out from Mrs. Mondello, but in the end Beaver told Ward not knowing he already knew.

How about when Mr. Davenport, the librarian, called Ward about the library card and overdue book. Also the banker calls Ward in Lost Watch that Beaver tried to “deem” his bond to pay Lumpy back. Extortion!!

In the Leave It To Beaver episodes, the writers were always creating "convenient" ways for Ward to find out about mischief the boys were in.

Getting back to the Train Trip episode, I agree, George Haskell should have paid for the boys train fares after he saw and found out what was going on, since he "conveniently" happened to be on the train also. But I guess the episode writers wanted the conductor guy to be the hero.

When Ward found out what happened from Mr. Haskell, he should have told him, "Why didn't you just go ahead and pay for the boys tickets? I would have paid you back!"

Mr. Haskell did come off as a bit of a jerk in the episode, but maybe the writers wanted it that way, Eddie could be a jerk too sometimes, so as the saying goes, like father like son. :lol:

LOL at the part where Beaver tells the train conductor that his father is in the hospital because he fell out of an airplane. :lol:

The train conductor is played by veteran character actor Joseph Crehan, I didn't recognize him immediately because of the mustache, in other movies/shows I've seen him in he's always clean shaven.

I don’t think anything was mentioned when Beaver did Richard’s laundry and overflowed the machine. Ward knows something went on but chose to ignore the situation when June realizes her starch and detergent are gone and tells Ward. She got a clean floor so what the heck.

Post 25 is interesting. I never thought about the fact that Ward should have asked George why he didn't pay the fare.

Another situation: When Bill Boothby saw the boys pushing Ward's car at the end of the Camel Back Cutoff, why didn't he stop to help? Without Boothby's blabbing, Ward would not have found out about that situation.

I thought the same thing except Boothby wasn’t in a car but on a bus. I guess he saw them pushing and recognized the boys.

Bill should have pulled out his phone and called the auto club for them.

Oops! Wrong century!

LOL!!

Sometimes they show them pushing and other times they edit it out. Funny how Eddie gets to drive and Wally, Lumpy and Beaver push. Reminds me of Barney’s new car and how he takes everyone for a Sunday ride and it conks out. They show Aunt Bee pushing the car but it’s a double.

Barney's new car--a classic. Ellen Corby--she can play virtually any part and do a convincing job. From a car thief to Grandma Walton and anything in between.

Probably the only character actress of the era who wasn't on LITB (well, one of the few...)

Would have loved to have had Ellen on LITB. She could have played Miss Cooper in the Haunted House. She was a fine actress and love how she said “That’s the clunker I sold to that boob in Mayberry.” She was in Dennis the Menace too. Loved her in The Rifleman.

She would have done well as Aunt Martha. She could have done one timers, like the lady who gave Beaver the bad check for the mowing, or the one who was claiming the lost wallet, or the lady who was with Aunt Martha, Mrs. Hathaway instead of Mrs. Elkins (Irene Tedrow.)

I didn't know she was in DTM. Wikipedia says she was Miss Douglas, but I don't place the role or the episode.

One of my favorite roles in DTM is Alice Pearce playing another spinster, who battles for men with Miss Cathcart (Mary Wickes is good, too.)

Ellen Corby was in the episode when Mr. Wilson gets an old radio in an auction and gives it to Dennis. Inside is a lot of bills but forget how much. People try to claim the money but it winds up being the property of Ellen Corby. It could be another episode when Ellen wins a new car and gives Dennis her old vintage electric car.

Love Miss Cathcart hungry for any man and Gladys Kravitz. Saw Irene Tedrow in a small part in Empire of the Ants, 70’s B movie. B for beastly.

DTM hd a large cast of adults, who kept the show fresh. Mary Wickes, Charles Lane, the character actor who played Brady (and his equally annoying son), Tedrow, the guy who played Sgt. Mooney, and several others.

Ellen Corby was doing quite a few western TV guest roles in those years, including Bonanza which offered a rare look at her in color (when very few series were not b/w).

Among DTM guest actors, in addition to Charles Lane, the actor who played Sgt. Mooney also jumped over to the first season of Petticoat Junction.

Would have loved to have had Ellen on LITB. She could have played Miss Cooper in the Haunted House. She was a fine actress and love how she said “That’s the clunker I sold to that boob in Mayberry.” She was in Dennis the Menace too. Loved her in The Rifleman.

That made me think of Ellen's appearance in the two 'haunted house' movies The Ghost And Mr Chicken and The Bowery Boys Meet The Monsters (in this one she is always trying to feed one of the Bowery Boys to her man eating plant)

I can't find that thread where we were talking about stuff Wally was always asking to do. In today's Bootsie episode he asked June (as she told it) whether he could be a Forest Ranger.

I’ll add that to the list. In an episode when June is washing the kitchen windows, Wally asks June if he can take a cross country bus tour this summer. I believe Beaver wound up doing that.

Yeah I think that was recent. I remember thinking, that comes later, and it's Beaver.

In a recent episode (probably the one where Beaver didn't want a babysitter), June was talking to Wally, probably worrying about leaving him alone (I don't blame June, with the trouble he gets into!). Wally said something about him calling Berlin. I thought, it was L.A. and Don Drysdale, and that comes later, too.

I missed that about calling Berlin. Once Wally was listening to his transistor radio and says every so often they play news. That’s how Lumpy found out about Cuba.

There was one time; in the fifth or sixth season I think, in which something happen, but Ward nor June found out. They suspected something but they didn't try to find out what it was; June found out either they were out of bleach or carpet cleaner, and Ward simply stated whatever the problem had been, it was fixed and they were better off not finding out about it. I know that's very vague but those details are the only thing I can remember.

There was one time; in the fifth or sixth season I think, in which something happen, but Ward nor June found out. They suspected something but they didn't try to find out what it was; June found out either they were out of bleach or carpet cleaner, and Ward simply stated whatever the problem had been, it was fixed and they were better off not finding out about it. I know that's very vague but those details are the only thing I can remember.

I think the title of the episode was "Beaver's Laundry", but it was really Richard's Laundry, a fifth season episode. Beaver helped Richard do his family's laundry in the Cleavers' washer, since Richard lost his money to do it at the laundromat. They used too much detergent, and the machine overflowed into the kitchen. The boys cleaned it up, and Ward and June came home later and complimented the boys on cleaning the floor so well. Later yet, June remarked to Ward that the detergent was nearly gone, and she didn't think she had so little left. Ward said the clean floor probably had something to do with it, but he advised not to look further into it. As Wally said to Beaver later, they were just happy to have a clean floor. So, right, Ward didn't find out!