View Full Version : MeTV Summer of Me 2017 schedule (includes ALF, return of My Three Sons, Rhoda, etc)


snowpeck
04-22-2017, 10:34 PM
MeTV's summer schedule is out. Starts May 29th.

New/Returning: Petticoat Junction, My Three Sons, Remington Steele, ALF, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Battlestar Galactica, The Outer Limits, Swamp Thing, Rhoda

Leaving: Diagnosis Murder, CHiPs, MacGyver, The Incredible Hulk, Land of the Giants, The Time Tunnel, Planet of the Apes, Laverne & Shirley, Dobie Gillis

FULL SCHEDULE: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-p9OTsjmYVcek9QVjBuWHdKdWc/view?usp=sharing

WEEKDAYS

6AM: Mister Ed
6:30: I Love Lucy
7AM: Petticoat Junction
7:30: My Three Sons
8AM: My Three Sons
8:30: Leave it to Beaver
9AM: Perry Mason
10AM: Matlock
11AM: Remington Steele
12PM: The Big Valley
1PM: Gunsmoke
1:30: Gunsmoke
2PM: Bonanza
3PM: The Rifleman
3:30: The Rifleman
4PM: The Beverly Hillbillies
4:30: Leave it to Beaver
5PM: The Brady Bunch
5:30: Gilligan's Island
6PM: Happy Days
6:30: The Andy Griffith Show (or The Odd Couple)
7PM: MASH
7:30: MASH
8PM: The Andy Griffith Show (or Mayberry RFD)
8:30: The Andy Griffith Show (or Mayberry RFD)
9PM: Mama's Family
9:30: ALF
10PM: Hogan's Heroes
10:30: Hogan's Heroes
11PM: Carol Burnett & Friends
11:30: Perry Mason
12:30: The Twilight Zone
1AM: Alfred Hitchcock Presents
1:30: Alfred Hitchcock Presents
2AM: Mannix
3AM: Ironside
4AM: 77 Sunset Strip
5AM: Our Miss Brooks (M-Th)/Gomer Pyle (Fri)
5:30: The Donna Reed Show (M-Th)/Gomer Pyle (Fri)

SATURDAY

6AM: Abbott & Costello
6:30: Abbott & Costello
7AM: The Little Rascals
8AM: Trackdown
8:30: Trackdown
9AM: Have Gun, Will Travel
9:30: Have Gun, Will Travel
10AM: Maverick
11AM: Wagon Train
12PM: The Big Valley
1PM: Gunsmoke
2PM: Bonanza
3PM: Rawhide
4PM: Wanted: Dead or Alive
4:30: Wanted: Dead or Alive
5PM: The Rifleman
5:30: The Rifleman
6PM: The Wild Wild West
7PM: Battlestar Galactica
8PM: Wonder Woman
9PM: Star Trek
10PM: Svengoolie
12AM: Batman
12:30: Batman
1AM: The Outer Limits
2AM: The Outer Limits
3AM: Lost in Space
4AM: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
5AM: Swamp Thing
5:30: Swamp Thing

SUNDAY

6AM: Family Affair
6:30: Family Affair
7AM: Mystery Hunters (E/I)
7:30: Mystery Hunters (E/I)
8AM: Beakman's World (E/I)
8:30: Beakman's World (E/I)
9AM: Bill Nye the Science Guy (E/I)
9:30: Bill Nye the Science Guy (E/I)
10AM: Saved By the Bell (E/I)
10:30: Saved By the Bell (E/I)
11AM: Saved By the Bell (E/I)
11:30: Saved By the Bell (E/I)
12PM: The Brady Bunch Brunch
2PM: The Mary Tyler Moore Show
2:30: The Mary Tyler Moore Show
3PM: Rhoda
3:30: Rhoda
4PM: I Love Lucy
4:30: I Love Lucy
5PM: The Love Boat
6PM: The Love Boat
7PM: The Andy Griffith Show (or Mayberry RFD)
7:30: The Andy Griffith Show (or Mayberry RFD)
8PM: Columbo
10PM: Kolchak the Night Stalker
11PM: The Honeymooners
11:30: The Odd Couple
12AM: Cheers
12:30: The Bob Newhart Show
1AM: The Mary Tyler Moore Show
1:30: Taxi
2AM: Get Smart
2:30: Sledge Hammer!
3AM: Car 54 Where Are You?
3:30: The Phil Silvers Show
4AM: The Alfred Hitchcock Hour
5AM: Our Miss Brooks
5:30: The Donna Reed Show

bgva
04-22-2017, 10:49 PM
Some random thoughts...

I like that Remington Steele is returning, bummed that CHiPs is leaving. I'm very much ready for something to replace the Hogan's Heroes hour. Meanwhile...I haven't seen Swamp Thing in years!

MacGyver didn't stay too long at all.

Bonniegirl
04-22-2017, 11:06 PM
Very cool ! I'm really liking Petticoat Junction, My Three Sons and Rhoda coming on!!!;) And lots of other things!!! METV is getting a good variety!!!;)

stevea
04-22-2017, 11:18 PM
Three AGS?

I can only hope they have more seasons of My Three Sons than 6-10, but it's probably same old, same old. At least, it's back.

Sunday afternoons look really good.

I really wish they'd soft peddle the westerns.

jehobden
04-22-2017, 11:26 PM
That extra half hour every day of Andy Griffith is a real head scratcher. 17 showings a week. I wonder if the earlier episode will be color ones?

I hope they will be. I actually prefer the color episodes, mostly because I'm in the minority of those viewers who find Barney Fife more annoying than endearing. I also like seeing Mayberry in color time to time and also seeing a more mature Opie.

stevea
04-22-2017, 11:29 PM
Locally we get Mayberry RFD, but I'd have to think that "alone" showing of AGS would be the color episodes. They haven't been showing them, I don't think...and they're paying for them. Just like TVLand, which has also scrapped them.

MikeLutton
04-22-2017, 11:33 PM
why are they taking the hulk off I need incredible hulk on I don't like that change espically if it for more andy griffith

boechsner
04-23-2017, 01:15 AM
Now this is more like it!! Finally, I may actually watch this channel again. I love that they are airing sitcoms earlier in the afternoon! The Mary/Rhoda hour on Sundays is a nice touch!

BigManMike
04-23-2017, 01:18 AM
Late afternoons are actually pretty good. But they still can't seem to boot Hogan's Heroes out of the same spot it's been in for ages. And Saturday still sucks as usual and they still won't give Get Smart a good time and more airings. But ALF will be good to watch.

Samme
04-23-2017, 01:29 AM
It's not bad. Still my favorite channel. They've improved 4-6PM weekdays. I love the Griffith show, but agree they don't need it at 6:30 too. They've improved 9PM with Mama's Family, but I'd much rather see TDVDS, MTM, or The Odd Couple between 9-11 than ALF and two showings of HH. 9-11 is still much too weak for classic TV fans who hate what's on the networks. That's a time to schedule classic family sitcoms that have wide appeal to adults. Otherwise, MeTV is still doing a good job. Glad it's there.

tvfreak1987
04-23-2017, 01:29 AM
And I hope they're just giving Mama a rest.

No rest. It's still on. Look at 9pm weeknights.

MikeLutton
04-23-2017, 01:45 AM
happy days back on afternoon time again that good but sick of AGS Already

rusty spike
04-23-2017, 02:01 AM
Too much MASH, Hogan and westerns. I wish that their Sunday line-up would run M-F. I could live with their westerns on the weekend.

eng51squad51
04-23-2017, 06:37 AM
Later this year or next year everybody's be getting Andy Griffith show instead Mayberry rfd or alt show

eng51squad51
04-23-2017, 06:39 AM
They don't have rights to dick van dyke show any more cozitv has rights to it

tlc38tlc38
04-23-2017, 08:16 AM
Pros:
Petticoat Junction returning!

The Beverly Hillbillies on at a better time.

Happy Days now on weekdays!

ALF!!!

The Odd Couple on weekdays (in my area). I love this show!

Carol Burnett & Friends still on at 11pm weekdays.





Cons:

Still way too many westerns.

Mama's Family losing an episode.

Hogan's Heroes & MASH still on too much.

Saturdays are still really bad.

Kolchak still messing up Last Laughs. Get rid of this stinker and start Last Laughs at 10pm!





I like this schedule a lot more than the current one!

omg65
04-23-2017, 10:20 AM
Hogans Heroes still back to back at 10 PM.Was hoping they would remedy that. Still weak from 7 PM to 11 PM when I do most of my TV watching after work.

tlc38tlc38
04-23-2017, 12:16 PM
I like:

Mon-Fri:
5am-12pm
4pm-7pm
8pm-10pm
11pm-1am


Saturday:
Nothing


Sunday:
5am-6am
12pm-8pm
11pm-2:30am

TVFactFan
04-23-2017, 12:26 PM
Same sh*T

Weekday primetime schedule is still dog sh*T :lol:

Sundays is still their best day


Like the 2 hour block on sundays from 1pm to 3pm with Rhoda and MTM


Rhoda should be at 12:30am after Bob Newhart and then MTM


That would be a nice sunday night lineup

Ron Ron
04-23-2017, 05:40 PM
why are they taking the hulk off I need incredible hulk on I don't like that change espically if it for more andy griffith

Agreed...bad move...I am not happy with the removal of The Incredible Hulk.:mad:

Bonniegirl
04-23-2017, 07:18 PM
I'm kind of upset that they took off Diagnosis murder!:( I was just starting to really watch and get into that show , and it was on at a good time for me!!;)

Svenfan1234
04-23-2017, 07:32 PM
I'm kind of upset that they took off Diagnosis murder!:( I was just starting to really watch and get into that show , and it was on at a good time for me!!;)

I love Remington Steele! Those who haven't seen it are in for a treat! It's way better than Diagnosis Murder!

70s show watcher
04-23-2017, 07:44 PM
i like the changes for the most part but imho the saturday lineup really stinks

TheLogoMan94
04-23-2017, 07:44 PM
I can almost guarantee is the same seasons of 'My Three Sons (Seasons 6-10). I've seen all of the episodes from those seasons many times over. They're getting very stale to me. Don't get me wrong, it's good to have it back, but I wish they'd figure out a way to get the remaining 7 seasons (1-5 & 11-12) and give seasons 6-10 a rest.

Mr. Television
04-23-2017, 07:55 PM
I can almost guarantee is the same seasons of 'My Three Sons (Seasons 6-10). I've seen all of the episodes from those seasons many times over. They're getting very stale to me. Don't get me wrong, it's good to have it back, but I wish they'd figure out a way to get the remaining 7 seasons (1-5 & 11-12) and give seasons 6-10 a rest.
Those were the only seasons syndicated for years. Growing up in the 70's I never saw the Bub years. Couldn't even get N@N when they aired it. To this date I've only seen a handful of those episodes.

Bonniegirl
04-23-2017, 07:59 PM
Those were the only seasons syndicated for years. Growing up in the 70's I never saw the Bub years. Couldn't even get N@N when they aired it. To this date I've only seen a handful of those episodes.

Same here!!! The only time I ever saw the Bub eps were when they were on Nick at nite!! ;) :wave:

Ron Ron
04-23-2017, 08:13 PM
I'm kind of upset that they took off Diagnosis murder!:( I was just starting to really watch and get into that show , and it was on at a good time for me!!;)

I never thought Diagnosis murder was a good fit on Me-TV. I love the show but it felt weird seeing it on ME-TV. Diagnosis is also shown on HallMark Movies and TV channel. Unfortunately, I can't say that about The Incredible Hulk being seen on another channel.:mad:

littletydramon
04-23-2017, 08:49 PM
I'm a bit shocked by how many people on this thread do not seem to like any of the scifi/fantasy series on Saturdays, I enjoy Batman, Lost in Space, and am glad to see some obscure ones like Swamp Thing showing up, but sad to see Land of the Giants leaving.

I hope we someday see My Favorite Martian on the schedule.

Ron Ron
04-23-2017, 09:01 PM
I'm a bit shocked by how many people on this thread do not seem to like any of the scifi/fantasy series on Saturdays, I enjoy Batman, Lost in Space, and am glad to see some obscure ones like Swamp Thing showing up, but sad to see Land of the Giants leaving.

I hope we someday see My Favorite Martian on the schedule.

I watched the whole block from Hulk. Wonder Woman, Batman, Star Trek and Lost in Space. I don't know why they missed it up.

MikeLutton
04-23-2017, 10:50 PM
the hulk should stay bsg can be anywhere on the schedule or move hulk to weekdays it just got there to early for a vaciton

Alex Cooper
04-24-2017, 12:40 AM
Speaking of Super SciFi Saturday nights, my on screen guide is listing Lost in Space this week at midnight instead of Batman.:confused:

I didn't really watch either one much, but The Incredible Hulk and Land of the Giants both got pulled too soon, as they didn't even get through a full cycle of episodes.

And does anyone know what the difference is between Alfred Hitchcock Presents and The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, aside from length?

snowpeck
04-24-2017, 12:46 AM
And does anyone know what the difference is between Alfred Hitchcock Presents and The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, aside from length?

That's the only difference. It was half an hour from 1955-1962 and an hour from 1962-1965. Some people say the half hour shows are better, but it's all subjective.

stevea
04-24-2017, 09:05 AM
Later this year or next year everybody's be getting Andy Griffith show instead Mayberry rfd or alt show

Sounds like some local channel contracts are finally expiring.

stevea
04-24-2017, 09:10 AM
Speaking of Super SciFi Saturday nights, my on screen guide is listing Lost in Space this week at midnight instead of Batman.:confused:

There are a lot of mistakes for MeTV in the on screen TV Guide. Latest one: last night, there were different episodes of Mayberry RFD than were shown in the TV Guide.

Svenfan1234
04-24-2017, 09:14 AM
I don´t usually watch Super Sci-Fi Saturday Nights except for Svengoolie. Svengoolie kicks butt! :wave: :cool:

MikeLutton
04-24-2017, 11:45 AM
AGS be expiring next year? about time

icecream
04-24-2017, 01:09 PM
I'm kind of upset that they took off Diagnosis murder!:( I was just starting to really watch and get into that show , and it was on at a good time for me!!;)Diagnosis Murder airs on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries. It just had an all-day Saturday marathon and on weekdays gets 3 back-to-back episodes starting at 9AM eastern.

Bonniegirl
04-24-2017, 01:13 PM
[QUOTE=Ron Ron]I never thought Diagnosis murder was a good fit on Me-TV. I love the show but it felt weird seeing it on ME-TV. Diagnosis is also shown on HallMark Movies and TV channel. Unfortunately, I can't say that about The Incredible Hulk being seen on another channel.:mad:[/QUOT

I kind of see what you mean! It's kind of not old enough a show to be on METV!;) But I think it fit in well after Perry Mason and Matlock were on! And I love the show!! I used to watch it first run on Friday nights and also rerun on ION TV maybe 10 years ago or so! Than I just recently got back into it on ME and now they are taking it off! :(

Bonniegirl
04-24-2017, 01:16 PM
Diagnosis Murder airs on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries. It just had an all-day Saturday marathon and on weekdays gets 3 back-to-back episodes starting at 9AM eastern.

Wow!! Thanks!!!;) Now is that the regular Hallmark channel? Or is Hallmark movies and mysteries a whole different channel? :confused:

icecream
04-24-2017, 01:28 PM
It's a separate channel. The regular channel has sitcoms like Home Improvement, Frasier, The Middle, and The Golden Girls. Movies and Mysteries has crime dramas like Diagnosis Murder, Monk, Columbo, and Murder She Wrote.

Bonniegirl
04-24-2017, 01:39 PM
It's a separate channel. The regular channel has sitcoms like Home Improvement, Frasier, The Middle, and The Golden Girls. Movies and Mysteries has crime dramas like Diagnosis Murder, Monk, Columbo, and Murder She Wrote.


Oh yeah!! That's what I thought! I know I get regular Hallmark. Not sure if I get the other one though!! I'll check it out !!! I hope so cause I love Murder she wrote too! ;)


Thanks for letting me know Catsrule! :wave:

AceWesternson
04-24-2017, 04:59 PM
I hope the Irwin Allen Shows that are leaving are not because of them losing the rights. And i love Land of the giants

snowpeck
04-24-2017, 05:41 PM
According to one of those clickbait articles MeTV posts on their website and then shares on Facebook, the afternoon Andy Griffith slot will be the color shows.

Svenfan1234
04-24-2017, 05:44 PM
I hope the Irwin Allen Shows that are leaving are not because of them losing the rights. And i love Land of the giants

I don't think they are. They just started in September, right? My speculation is that they probably weren't performing up to what Me had in mind. Thus why they are being replaced. I suspect they'll be back.

Svenfan1234
04-24-2017, 05:47 PM
Has anybody ever noticed that 11AM-Noon slot has always sort of been a "death slot" for Me? We've literally seen over six shows in that timeslot in less than three years -- Ironside, Mod Squad, Dragnet, Quincy M.E., Diagnosis Murder, now Remington Steele -- and a lot of those shows start out strong and then a few months later Me says they are the weakest shows in the morning. I love Remington Steele so I hope it stays beyond the summer.

rosescarlett
04-24-2017, 05:53 PM
love the MeTV Summer schedule, looking forward to seeing ALF.

gidgetgrape
04-24-2017, 06:53 PM
My Three Sons is back! Let me do my happy dance.

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

stevea
04-24-2017, 08:07 PM
My Three Sons is back! Let me do my happy dance.

Again, I'd hope they access something besides seasons 6-10. They need to get the package that has seasons 1-5 and 11-12. I know it supposedly is not available, but if they wanted it, they could probably get it.

tvfreak1987
04-24-2017, 09:04 PM
AGS be expiring next year? about time

He was referring to local station contracts for it in areas where it has to be replaced, not Me-TV's contract per se.


Has anybody ever noticed that 11AM-Noon slot has always sort of been a "death slot" for Me? We've literally seen over six shows in that timeslot in less than three years -- Ironside, Mod Squad, Dragnet, Quincy M.E., Diagnosis Murder, now Remington Steele -- and a lot of those shows start out strong and then a few months later Me says they are the weakest shows in the morning. I love Remington Steele so I hope it stays beyond the summer.

I always suspected that it's because a lot of Me-TV's morning audience (which is mostly retirees I bet) switches over to CBS for The Price Is Right at that time. Seems to be the death slot for a lot of networks not named ABC.

BigManMike
04-24-2017, 11:28 PM
Again, I'd hope they access something besides seasons 6-10. They need to get the package that has seasons 1-5 and 11-12. I know it supposedly is not available, but if they wanted it, they could probably get it.

It was stupid to split the show up into two packages to begin with. The distributor should have just included all 12 seasons in one syndication package.

storrs19
04-24-2017, 11:38 PM
It was stupid to split the show up into two packages to begin with. The distributor should have just included all 12 seasons in one syndication package.

That's why I bought the compete series from "ioffer" years ago. Yes they're all taped from tv but it's the only way to see the seasons no longer available for syndication.

Tubehead
04-25-2017, 01:18 AM
honestly tell you the truth i don't watch me TV much!! I do watch mannix iron side & sunset stripe!! i watch classic TV i usually watch antenna TV!! im glade that they got ride of Diagnosis Murder !! i never seen all the TV series of Remington Steele!! im kind of bummed that there not showing plant of the apes time tunnel & land of the giants!! But im looking forward to swamp thing I got the first & second seasons on dvd!! I like that the odd couple & happy days are back on!! I wish they would change the rest of the scheduled I would get rid of mostly all the westerns add more comedy's or cop shows!! I would show : perfect strangers court ship of eddies father, the Lucy show, major dad empty nest my two dads & Amen!! I would get ride of the westerns show like either more comedy's or cop shows like the rock ford files magnum pi kojack & cannon!! I could dream that me TV would do like either do it on the weekends like Friday or Saturday but if like retro classic all day cartoons!! I would show ghost busters, he-man top cat the flistones the jeton’s fox’s 1990 spider-man fox’s 1990 x-men wb’s 1990 batman The Animated TV series sliver hawks,thunders barbarian & super Mario brothers super show!!

storrs19
04-25-2017, 02:02 AM
I'd like to see Kojak and The Streets of San Francisco on again. I need to just buy the latter as it's not expensive on Amazon. I bought the compete series of Mannix on there for $65 recently. Ironside and Kojak are quite costly though. COZI is supposed to add Kojak later this year but I don't like the way COZI really chops up their shows and takes commercial breaks at odd times during them.

rusty spike
04-25-2017, 02:16 AM
So MacGyver is already being leaving the scheduled?

Seems like it just arrived last Dec. It must have done poorly for METV expectations.

snowpeck
04-25-2017, 03:06 AM
So MacGyver is already being leaving the scheduled?

Seems like it just arrived last Dec. It must have done poorly for METV expectations.

It'll probably be back in September when Summer of ME is over.

stevea
04-25-2017, 04:44 AM
Yes, it'll probably be back. For instance, they rested ILL last summer (at least, the daily ones), and it came back.

stevea
04-25-2017, 04:48 AM
I'd like to see Kojak and The Streets of San Francisco on again. I need to just buy the latter as it's not expensive on Amazon. I bought the compete series of Mannix on there for $65 recently. Ironside and Kojak are quite costly though. COZI is supposed to add Kojak later this year but I don't like the way COZI really chops up their shows and takes commercial breaks at odd times during them.

For many programs, COZI shows less than 20 minutes of program per half hour; for many programs, MeTV shows 23 minutes of program. I hate COZI.

eng51squad51
04-25-2017, 08:41 PM
Again, I'd hope they access something besides seasons 6-10. They need to get the package that has seasons 1-5 and 11-12. I know it supposedly is not available, but if they wanted it, they could probably get it.

To get those other episodes they would have to pay to get some tapes transfer from masters to HD version

macgal1985
04-26-2017, 01:47 AM
I really hope METV brings Mac back that is one show I absolutely love, I guess I like the lineup the way it is already, I did enjoy Alf as a kid. Well I guess I will be investing in the MacGyver DVDS.

tlc38tlc38
04-26-2017, 07:33 AM
^I've tried watching MacGyver several times but I can't get into it. I'm glad it Diagnosis Murder, and CHiPs are leaving (for a little while anyway).

I'm looking forward to seeing Remington Steele. And, it'll be nice to see more sitcoms instead of dramas in the afternoon.

jimmo
04-26-2017, 03:46 PM
I am guessing the episodes of My Three Sons aired by MeTV this summer will (again) be the color ones from the CBS run (1965-72), not the superior black and white episodes of the ABC run (and directed by Peter Tewksbury, the then-younger director who also directed Father Knows Best), which had a more whimsical Disney-like feel to them.

Also, the ABC run of My3 Sons co-starred William Frawley as grandfather "Michael Francis 'Bub' O'Casey," while the CBS episodes of the series replaced Frawley with the less-appealing William Demarest as "Charles Leslie 'Uncle Charlie' O'Casey," who was the brother of Frawley's character.

In 1965 Bill Frawley was replaced in My 3 Sons, after Don Fedderson Productions' insurers wouldn't re-insure Frawley due to a heart condition. But the late Don Grady (who portrayed "Robert "Robbie' Douglas" in the series) once told me he and his castmates preferred working with Frawley, and Grady himself also preferred the ABC run of the series.

Of course, Grady himself had been a Disney Mouseketeer. And 3 Sons castmate Tim Considine (who portrayed elder brother "Michael 'Mike' Douglas") had also been a star in the Disney Spin & Marty and The Hardy Boys serials that were a popular feature of ABC's The Mickey Mouse Club; Considine as well the co-star of the Mouse Club feature Annette and the Disney big-screen feature The Shaggy Dog which starred Fred MacMurray and co-starred Tommy Kirk. So both Considine and Grady, along with 3 Sons star MacMurray, were already acclimated to the Disney-style productions Tewksbury's style lent to My 3 Sons its first five seasons.

Still, some My 3 Sons is better than no visits with the "Douglas" household(s) at all. And it is always nice to have a summer break form MeTV's regular programming fare, so long as with the assurance fan favorites will return in the fall.

I am a bit perplexed by The Andy Griffith Show (TAGS)/Mayberry R.F.D. listings, don't know if that means the network has yet to formally choose what will air in those time slots or if they plan to alternate with episodes from both series' on different days, or even perhaps (as someone already posted here) the decision may be left to local MeTV affiliates. I do suspect (as another person also already posted) the single airings of TAGS will probably be from the color run (1965-68) of the series. That just seems logical to me.

Edison
04-26-2017, 06:28 PM
Lost track of when I last saw Trackdown. Have seen other oater many times - Will probably see some more.

snowpeck
04-26-2017, 06:49 PM
I am a bit perplexed by The Andy Griffith Show (TAGS)/Mayberry R.F.D. listings, don't know if that means the network has yet to formally choose what will air in those time slots or if they plan to alternate with episodes from both series' on different days, or even perhaps (as someone already posted here) the decision may be left to local MeTV affiliates. I do suspect (as another person also already posted) the single airings of TAGS will probably be from the color run (1965-68) of the series. That just seems logical to me.

A large number of local stations still have exclusive rights to air Andy Griffith in their respective markets (Knoxville, Tennessee, where I live, is one of them). In those markets MeTV has to provide alternate programming for stations that aren't allowed to show Andy. It's always been that way since MeTV started airing it. MeTV has already said the single airing in the afternoon will be the color shows.

stevea
04-26-2017, 07:17 PM
I am a bit perplexed by The Andy Griffith Show (TAGS)/Mayberry R.F.D. listings, don't know if that means the network has yet to formally choose what will air in those time slots or if they plan to alternate with episodes from both series' on different days, or even perhaps (as someone already posted here) the decision may be left to local MeTV affiliates. I do suspect (as another person also already posted) the single airings of TAGS will probably be from the color run (1965-68) of the series. That just seems logical to me.

The TAGS/MRFD thing is the fact that, in some markets (such as here in Indianapolis), TAGS is under contract with another local channel. In those situations, MeTV offers the alternate feed with MRFD (and, in the summer of Me instance of the third TAGS, The Odd Couple). Other posts in this thread indicate the other TAGS contracts will expire soon, so the alternate feeds will no longer be necessary.

Very interesting info about MTS, BTW. I'd like to see the ABC and S11/S12 episodes, but I really doubt that will happen.

snowpeck
04-26-2017, 07:30 PM
The last time the black and white episodes of My Three Sons were seen was the early 2000s. MeTV could get them if they wanted. The black and white Petticoat Junction episodes and the hourlong black and white Gunsmoke episodes aren't available in syndication, but they have aired both of those.

stevea
04-26-2017, 08:26 PM
The last time the black and white episodes of My Three Sons were seen was the early 2000s. MeTV could get them if they wanted. The black and white Petticoat Junction episodes and the hourlong black and white Gunsmoke episodes aren't available in syndication, but they have aired both of those.

A lot of this older material is probably, by now, in the public domain (original copyrights expired). The issue would be obtaining copies good enough to air on TV.

The fact that they are airing 2 episodes back to back gives me some hope they are doing something different. To my knowledge MeTV has never aired more than 1 MTS episode a day.

tlc38tlc38
04-26-2017, 09:03 PM
I'm not sure if my local station, WATL, that airs "TAGS" will drop it soon or not but I'm hoping they continue to air it so I can see "The Odd Couple" every day!

snowpeck
04-26-2017, 09:11 PM
A lot of this older material is probably, by now, in the public domain (original copyrights expired). The issue would be obtaining copies good enough to air on TV.

The fact that they are airing 2 episodes back to back gives me some hope they are doing something different. To my knowledge MeTV has never aired more than 1 MTS episode a day.
As long as they renewed the copyrights on those shows by 1978, they're not in the public domain. The first two seasons, at least, were remastered for DVD. No idea about seasons after that.

I'll have a better idea of exactly which M3S episodes they're showing next week when I get the detailed weekly schedule for the week of May 29.

I'm not sure if my local station, WATL, that airs "TAGS" will drop it soon or not but I'm hoping they continue to air it so I can see "The Odd Couple" every day!

It's funny here. The station that airs TAGS is an AntennaTV affiliate part of the time, so it's almost as if it's airing on AntennaTV.

tlc38tlc38
04-26-2017, 09:23 PM
As long as they renewed the copyrights on those shows by 1978, they're not in the public domain. The first two seasons, at least, were remastered for DVD. No idea about seasons after that.

I'll have a better idea of exactly which M3S episodes they're showing next week when I get the detailed weekly schedule for the week of May 29.



It's funny here. The station that airs TAGS is an AntennaTV affiliate part of the time, so it's almost as if it's airing on AntennaTV.

WATL in my area, is also an AntennaTV affiliate.

stevea
04-26-2017, 10:08 PM
Here in Indianapolis, the station that has the rights to TAGS also happens to be a Tribune station, which owns Antenna TV.

Svenfan1234
04-26-2017, 10:16 PM
The MeTV in my area airs TAGS but I'd rather have RFD to be honest.

stevea
04-27-2017, 07:56 AM
The MeTV in my area airs TAGS but I'd rather have RFD to be honest.

I like having MRFD, but the disadvantage is that it ran only three seasons, and airing 12 episodes a week, it takes very little time to run through them all.

tlc38tlc38
04-27-2017, 10:08 AM
^I like having MRFD, as well. I've been recording seasons 2 & 3 since it's not on DVD.

Mace Dolex
04-27-2017, 04:28 PM
Can't say I'm thrilled about ALF coming over, I saw it back when I was younger but revisiting it again when it was on The Hub a few years back it's downright an awful show, I mean sorry to any ALF fans out there.

I would have preferred another sitcom of the 80's but it's clear that MeTV doesn't or maybe it's not in their contract for more sitcoms of the 80's.

Bonniegirl
04-27-2017, 06:11 PM
The MeTV in my area airs TAGS but I'd rather have RFD to be honest.


Here too! They show TAGS where I live ! I too wish that they would show MRFD!! TAGS has been SO overplayed, not only on METV but over the years on lots of stations!:rolleyes: MRFD not being aired so much, I'd really like it if METV here would show it instead!;)

stevea
04-27-2017, 07:38 PM
Here too! They show TAGS where I live ! I too wish that they would show MRFD!! TAGS has been SO overplayed, not only on METV but over the years on lots of stations!:rolleyes: MRFD not being aired so much, I'd really like it if METV here would show it instead!;)

Maybe the local affiliate could make the decision show MRFD instead, if enough people suggested it. They may not have that option, who knows...but it wouldn't hurt to ask! We're fortunate here in Indianapolis to get MRFD...I agree, TAGS is overplayed. Everyone has seen them a million times!

Maybe once these local station TAGS contracts expire, MeTV will place MRFD in the rotation.

littletydramon
04-27-2017, 09:12 PM
Sorry to go off topic a bit but does anyone else have weird issues with Me-Tv? Mine sometimes seem to be mixed with another feed and airs modern stuff like Bones. It usually airs these shows on Saturdays in place of Batman, and cuts back to regular me-tv just in time to show the batman ending credits. anyone know what this is about?

I keep hoping Me-Tv will someday get 80's shows that NEVER get aired such as Major Dad or Perfect Strangers. Nick at Nite never even got those.

stevea
04-27-2017, 09:20 PM
It sounds like your local affiliate is cutting out of MeTV and showing alternate programming, for some reason. I'd contact the local station and ask.

icecream
04-27-2017, 09:32 PM
I haven't seen Mayberry RFD but doubt it is good. The black and white episodes of Andy Griffith are a lot better than the color episodes. Then even by color episode standards the last few TAGS that sets up RFD are terrible, especially the finale.

stevea
04-27-2017, 09:48 PM
I haven't seen Mayberry RFD but doubt it is good. The black and white episodes of Andy Griffith are a lot better than the color episodes. Then even by color episode standards the last few TAGS that sets up RFD are terrible, especially the finale.

That finale has to be the worst TAGS episode ever made. If I were one of the actors, I'd have refused to do it. There aren't too many unviewable sitcom episodes, but this is one of them.

There is another color episode about so-called gypsies that is almost as bad.

Almost any MRFD episode is better than these 2 TAGS episodes.

snowpeck
04-27-2017, 10:10 PM
That finale has to be the worst TAGS episode ever made. If I were one of the actors, I'd have refused to do it. There aren't too many unviewable sitcom episodes, but this is one of them.

There is another color episode about so-called gypsies that is almost as bad.

Almost any MRFD episode is better than these 2 TAGS episodes.

Mayberry RFD is far better than most of the color episodes of TAGS in my opinion. And I hate to say it, but one of the main reasons the color TAGS episodes were so bad was because of Andy himself. He never seemed like he wanted to be there. Mayberry RFD was Andy-free and gave supporting characters like Howard, Emmett and Goober (and event Aunt Bee) chances to shine.

tlc38tlc38
04-27-2017, 11:17 PM
I actually like MRFD. It's no work of genius but it's a decent show that's ten times better than the crapola of today.

BigManMike
04-27-2017, 11:56 PM
I've never seen Mayberry RFD but it is something I would like to check out.

stevea
04-28-2017, 12:14 AM
This is why I said someone should recommend good episodes. I never thought much of the show back then, but now I'm thinking "Ken Berry...Arlene Golonka...at least I wouldn't feel like throwing something at the screen."

This is going way off topic, and I agree we should all go update that sub-topic, but one of the better episodes is, "Howard, the Dream Spinner". In it, Howard is excited he is getting to go on TV and read poetry. Goober and Emmett see the program, and later Howard brags that he has some female fans. So Goober and Emmett have a new waitress at the diner send him a fake love letter, with a poem from a calendar. He falls for it, and reads it all on the air, and Goober and Emmett are ROFL. They have her write another letter, and ask him to twist his mustache on the air, which he also does. ROFL, again. Eventually Howard wants to meet the girl, and tells Sam it's going to be serious...etc. The girl writing the letters is the one who plays Charlene Darling from TAGS.

snowpeck
05-02-2017, 02:41 PM
Good news! They're going to be running the black and white episodes of My Three Sons! Here's the blurb MeTV posted on their website:

"Steven Douglas and his clan are back — starting from the very beginning with episodes never before seen on MeTV. Relive the story of Mike, Robbie and Chip on My Three Sons, weekdays at 7:30AM | 6:30C."

tlc38tlc38
05-02-2017, 03:15 PM
^Woohoo! I'll be recording these for sure!

tvfreak1987
05-02-2017, 09:23 PM
I looked on their website and can't find any mention of it. Link? Edit: Never mind, just found it.

snowpeck
05-02-2017, 10:03 PM
I looked on their website and can't find any mention of it. Link? Edit: Never mind, just found it.
Oops sorry. For anyone else looking for it: http://www.metv.com/stories/alf-my-three-sons-battlestar-galatica-and-more-join-the-metv-summer-of-me-2017-schedule

tlc38tlc38
05-02-2017, 10:18 PM
It also says "The Beverly Hillbillies" will be starting over. I was actually hoping to see the color episodes from seasons 5-9.

Svenfan1234
05-03-2017, 11:18 AM
Why keep Columbo & Kolchak on Sundays? I like both shows but they can get tiring. Here's how I'd do the Sunday night schedule:

8: The Bob Newhart Show
8:30: Taxi
9: Cheers
9:30: The Honeymooners
10: The Mary Tyler Moore Show
10:30: Rhoda
11: Get Smart
11:30: Car 54 Where Are You?

tlc38tlc38
05-03-2017, 12:15 PM
I'd do this for Sunday night Last Laughs:

8pm: The Honeymooners
8:30pm: The Odd Couple
9pm: The Bob Newhart Show
9:30pm: The Mary Tyler Moore Show
10pm: Rhoda
10:30pm: Taxi
11:30pm: Get Smart
12am: Cheers
12:30am: Cheers

MikeLutton
05-03-2017, 12:31 PM
looks better don't like having Taxi on middle of the night,that and other classic sitcoms to much dramas honeymooners to

icecream
05-03-2017, 07:25 PM
Columbo is a great show. I recently moved it into my top 10.

Mr. Television
05-03-2017, 09:15 PM
Columbo is a great show. I recently moved it into my top 10.
It is a great show. It was one of my Mom's favorites. It'll always have a place in my heart.

biffbronson
05-03-2017, 11:17 PM
I still watch the older Columbo eps on COZI occasionally, although I've seen practically every one multiple times before. I'm just starting to watch the newer MeTV showings.

LUNCH
05-04-2017, 02:38 PM
Good to hear they are going to show the back and white episodes of My Three Sons.If they have those maybe they also have the final 2 seasons of the color episodes.I also would not mind seeing Mayberry RFD,but aside from the areas it is shown I doubt they will add it to their line-up.Why not show the both the black and white episodes of The Andy Griffith Show and Mayberry RFD.

sabrelucynut
05-05-2017, 02:16 AM
glad to have Gilligan more but not happy that we will no longer see The Incredible Hulk and Laverne.

Cheryl Harrell
05-05-2017, 01:19 PM
Taking Chips off. Boo! Why is Happy Days and Andy Griffith show on at 6 pm when the news is on? This is why I don't get to watch All In The Family. Don't they know people need to see the news? Sigh. I won't be able to watch Sanford and Son anymore cuz Brady Bunch are Gilligans Island are gonna come on at 5 pm. I couldn't watch Good Times re-runs at 4 pm cuz of CHIPS being on. Still won't get to watch them cuz of Beverly Hillbillies and Leave It To Beaver being on. Oh well. They need to put Happy days and the color eps of Andy on at a time folks can watch.

tlc38tlc38
05-05-2017, 01:51 PM
Taking Chips off. Boo! Why is Happy Days and Andy Griffith show on at 6 pm when the news is on? This is why I don't get to watch All In The Family. Don't they know people need to see the news? Sigh. I won't be able to watch Sanford and Son anymore cuz Brady Bunch are Gilligans Island are gonna come on at 5 pm. I couldn't watch Good Times re-runs at 4 pm cuz of CHIPS being on. Still won't get to watch them cuz of Beverly Hillbillies and Leave It To Beaver being on. Oh well. They need to put Happy days and the color eps of Andy on at a time folks can watch.
I'm glad something good is on while the news is on. I watch these shows to escape from having to see the depressing news.

icecream
05-05-2017, 03:03 PM
Taking Chips off. Boo! Why is Happy Days and Andy Griffith show on at 6 pm when the news is on? This is why I don't get to watch All In The Family. Don't they know people need to see the news? Sigh. I won't be able to watch Sanford and Son anymore cuz Brady Bunch are Gilligans Island are gonna come on at 5 pm. I couldn't watch Good Times re-runs at 4 pm cuz of CHIPS being on. Still won't get to watch them cuz of Beverly Hillbillies and Leave It To Beaver being on. Oh well. They need to put Happy days and the color eps of Andy on at a time folks can watch.I avoid news as much as possible, too many negative stories. I'm assuming your affiliates air newscasts several times a day, you could catch one of the other airings.

Mr. Television
05-05-2017, 03:11 PM
I avoid news as much as possible, too many negative stories. I'm assuming your affiliates air newscasts several times a day, you could catch one of the other airings.
My Me-TV Affiliate has news from 10-10:30 PM.

JR1
05-05-2017, 05:41 PM
I don't love that we're getting one less "Mama's Family" daily (it's what I watch in the dinner hour, but at least it's still there daily. It brings me back to the 80s when I was a youngin'. :)

tlc38tlc38
05-05-2017, 08:55 PM
I'm lucky because my MeTV station doesn't air any news!

Bonniegirl
05-06-2017, 02:07 AM
I'm lucky because my MeTV station doesn't air any news!


Either does my METV, ;) but my Antenna shows news sometimes!!! I hate that! :(

MikeLutton
05-06-2017, 03:12 AM
my me tv shows paid programs where happy days schoud be on hate that

KJH278
05-06-2017, 10:08 AM
Why are they keeping Svengoolie

Svenfan1234
05-06-2017, 11:16 AM
Why are they keeping Svengoolie



Because they produce it and because he's the one who's brought the highest ratings on.

RedPenguin
05-06-2017, 01:16 PM
I like how every time when MeTV releases a "new" schedule, they still refuse to ever air 2 Carol Burnett's a night.

I somewhat wish Antenna TV could somehow snatch away Carol and put it on their channel, so I at least wouldn't get a weird aspect ratio and they probably would air two.

ILuvCarolBurnett
05-06-2017, 01:33 PM
ALF? Remington Steele? Dear God.......

I wish they would get rid of Mama's Family (watching Vicki Lawrence or Ken Berry is like torture), Mayberry R.F.D. (if Ken Berry can star in a sitcom anyone can), Hogan's Heroes (Yuck!), Saved By The Bell (if that is considered classic TV, then we are really a bunch of idiots) and The Love Boat. I hadn't seen Love Boat in years until MeTv started running it. It is nice to see the guest stars, but I just can't sit through the horrible writing (or Gavin MacLeod...sheesh!)

TheLogoMan94
05-06-2017, 01:50 PM
Good news! They're going to be running the black and white episodes of My Three Sons! Here's the blurb MeTV posted on their website:

"Steven Douglas and his clan are back — starting from the very beginning with episodes never before seen on MeTV. Relive the story of Mike, Robbie and Chip on My Three Sons, weekdays at 7:30AM | 6:30C."
Looks like they've finally gotten rights to show these episodes. According to the CBS Syndication Bible, dubbing inventory didn't exists for the B&W episodes (then again, that particular page hasn't been updated since 2009). This makes me wonder if Me-TV has brand new HQ masters, or if they have older Paramount or even Viacom masters. It doesn't matter much to me, but we will see.

tlc38tlc38
05-06-2017, 01:55 PM
Of course there are things I'd change about the network but as a whole I'm very pleased with it and just thankful I can see it now!

I'm looking forward to seeing "Remington Steele", "Rhoda", "My Three Sons", & "ALF".

Glad "Petticoat Junction" is back, "The Beverly Hillbillies" is at a better time, and "Happy Days" is on weekdays!

Crusinforabrusin
05-06-2017, 03:55 PM
Could do without Hogan's Heroes still at the 10:00 P.M. slot. ALF and Remington Steele look alright(I Never saw them before but I'll give them a chance). I am mad that The Land Of The Giants and all late night sci-fi shows are being taken off. I could also do without Star Trek and Svengoolie on Saturday nights.

Svenfan1234
05-06-2017, 04:02 PM
Could do without Hogan's Heroes still at the 10:00 P.M. slot. ALF and Remington Steele look alright(I Never saw them before but I'll give them a chance). I am mad that The Land Of The Giants and all late night sci-fi shows are being taken off. I could also do without Star Trek and Svengoolie on Saturday nights.

I could do w/o Star Trek also but Svengoolie is the best thing they have right now.

VisualSensation
05-06-2017, 06:04 PM
In case anyone is interested, The Incredible Hulk is moving to H&I on May 29th, weekdays at 4PM central.

Mr. Television
05-06-2017, 06:06 PM
In case anyone is interested, The Incredible Hulk is moving to H&I on May 29th, weekdays at 4PM central.
Wonderful. I don't get the network at that time.

tlc38tlc38
05-06-2017, 06:18 PM
From the new schedule, here are my likes and dislikes:

Remington Steele: I haven't seen this show yet to know if I like it or not.


LIKES:
Mister Ed
I Love Lucy
Petticoat Junction
My Three Sons
Leave It to Beaver
Perry Mason
The Beverly Hillbillies
The Brady Bunch
Gilligan's Island
Happy Days
The Odd Couple
Mayberry R.F.D.
Mama's Family
ALF
Carol Burnett and Friends
The Twilight Zone
Our Miss Brooks
Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C.
The Donna Reed Show
Wonder Woman
Svengoolie
Batman
Family Affair
Beakman's World
Saved by the Bell
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Rhoda
The Love Boat
The Honeymooners
Cheers
The Bob Newhart Show
Taxi
Get Smart



DISLIKE:
The Big Valley
Gunsmoke
Bonanza
The Rifleman
MASH
Hogan's Heroes
Alfred Hitchcock Presents
Mannix
Ironside
77 Sunset Strip
Abbott & Costello
The Little Rascals
Trackdown
Have Gun Will Travel
Maverick
Wagon Train
Rawhide
Wanted: Dead or Alive
The Wild Wild West
Battlestar Galactica
Star Trek
The Outer Limits
Lost in Space
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Swamp Thing
Bill Nye the Science Guy
Columbo
Kolchack the Night Stalker
Sledge Hammer!
Car 54 Where are You?
The Phil Silvers Show
The Alfred Hitchcock Hour

sabrelucynut
05-06-2017, 07:52 PM
I'd like it too except here in Buffalo they preempt so much stuff. We never get The Odd Couple or Honeymooners. We got D Murder for a while and Carol Burnett but they dumped them, so I do not expect to not get Rhoda as well, boo!

sabrelucynut
05-06-2017, 07:54 PM
I was really hoping they'd air the entire series of Incredible Hulk, that stinks

eng51squad51
05-07-2017, 06:51 PM
The last time the black and white episodes of My Three Sons were seen was the early 2000s. MeTV could get them if they wanted. The black and white Petticoat Junction episodes and the hourlong black and white Gunsmoke episodes aren't available in syndication, but they have aired both of those.

Metv will be showing the earlier seasons with bub years and Mike for 1st time on metv per their summer of ,me post just hope they got the last two seasons 11and 12 and those haven't been shown since hallmark channel shown them

stevea
05-07-2017, 09:30 PM
Metv will be showing the earlier seasons with bub years and Mike for 1st time on metv per their summer of ,me post just hope they got the last two seasons 11and 12 and those haven't been shown since hallmark channel shown them

Seasons 11 and 12 are part of the syndication package which also has seasons 1 thru 5 (at least, they were). I would hope they would show them...one issue might be, will there be time during the Summer of Me?

tlc38tlc38
05-07-2017, 09:36 PM
^I'm hoping they keep M3S on even after the Summer. Hopefully they'll air all the episodes from seasons 1-5 and 11-12.

TheLogoMan94
05-07-2017, 09:56 PM
Seasons 11 and 12 are part of the syndication package which also has seasons 1 thru 5 (at least, they were). I would hope they would show them...one issue might be, will there be time during the Summer of Me?
The B&W episodes, which will be shown twice a week every weekday, would finish their airing cycle on or around October 3rd. If Seasons 11 & 12 were also aired, they would finish their airing cycle on or around November 6th. So, short answer is "No", but they need to keep the series on, even after the 'Summer of Me'.

snowpeck
05-07-2017, 10:58 PM
As far as seasons 11 and 12 of My Three Sons, I'd be keeping my eye on Decades. I have no inside information, so I have no idea if they'll actually do this, but if MeTV does have the rights to those two seasons, I could see them doing a binge on Decades some weekend. Maybe even Father's Day weekend.

TheLogoMan94
05-07-2017, 11:13 PM
As far as seasons 11 and 12 of My Three Sons, I'd be keeping my eye on Decades. I have no inside information, so I have no idea if they'll actually do this, but if MeTV does have the rights to those two seasons, I could see them doing a binge on Decades some weekend. Maybe even Father's Day weekend.
That's very possible, and ever since Decades launched, I've been checking to see if they would ever air an episode of MTS not in seasons 6-10. The schedule only goes up to May 27th as of now, and it shows no airings of MTS.

AceWesternson
05-08-2017, 02:23 PM
My Three Sons has been on Decades before

Bonniegirl
05-08-2017, 02:50 PM
I was really hoping they'd air the entire series of Incredible Hulk, that stinks


I love your adorable Tuxedo cat in your avatar picture!!:) :wave:

BigManMike
05-08-2017, 02:58 PM
That's very possible, and ever since Decades launched, I've been checking to see if they would ever air an episode of MTS not in seasons 6-10. The schedule only goes up to May 27th as of now, and it shows no airings of MTS.

I hope so. I watched a little bit of MTS on a Decades binge back in August 2015. I hope they do another one soon. I haven't really watch much of MTS and I would like more exposure to it.

TheLogoMan94
05-08-2017, 03:19 PM
I hope so. I watched a little bit of MTS on a Decades binge back in August 2015. I hope they do another one soon. I haven't really watch much of MTS and I would like more exposure to it.
I've just gotten so tired of the same episodes from the same seasons being re-ran over and over. I'm so glad we finally get to see the B&W episodes. Hopefully, seasons 11-12 have also been acquired, I haven't seen those since about 2000 or 2001 back when they aired on Hallmark.

Mace Dolex
05-08-2017, 07:36 PM
Saved By The Bell (if that is considered classic TV, then we are really a bunch of idiots)
Ouch! :lol: , it's not up to Emmy quality standards but I'll take SBTB over junk like Full House anyday.
and The Love Boat. I hadn't seen Love Boat in years until MeTv started running it. It is nice to see the guest stars, but I just can't sit through the horrible writing (or Gavin MacLeod...sheesh!)
Yeah I'm still scratching my head on how Aaron Spelling made a career producing junk like this.

icecream
05-09-2017, 02:56 PM
The Love Boat is a wonderful show.

Mace Dolex
05-09-2017, 04:28 PM
The Love Boat is a wonderful show.
I don't know it was just a weird period during it's heyday, how so many shows of the 1970's had merchandise even from toys, board games, lunchboxes. Usually that stuff was reserved for cartoon/children programs.

Seriously were there any kids of the 70's begging their parents for The Love Boat and M*A*S*H figures? :confused:

Mr. Television
05-09-2017, 05:05 PM
I don't know it was just a weird period during it's heyday, how so many shows of the 1970's had merchandise even from toys, board games, lunchboxes. Usually that stuff was reserved for cartoon/children programs.

Seriously were there any kids of the 70's begging their parents for The Love Boat and M*A*S*H figures? :confused:
Don't remember any Love Boat and MASH figures but the shows were highly popular. Watched The Love Boat all the time back then. It was pretty popular with young people and that was on Saturday nights. Look what Saturdays are now. The night can't even sustain any tv show.

snowpeck
05-10-2017, 04:14 PM
Decades is doing a My Three Sons binge on June 9-11. It's all color episodes and mostly the same color episodes they've shown before, but they are running the first seven episodes of season 11. Has MeTV or Decades shown those before?

tvfreak1987
05-10-2017, 06:43 PM
They've never aired beyond season 10.

stevea
05-10-2017, 07:24 PM
Decades is doing a My Three Sons binge on June 9-11. It's all color episodes and mostly the same color episodes they've shown before, but they are running the first seven episodes of season 11. Has MeTV or Decades shown those before?

No, season 11 hasn't been syndicated for years. Years ago, the first few episodes of season 11 were part of the syndication package (the Chip/Polly elopement story arc, and TV Land showed it), then were eliminated and made part of the S1-S5 package. The S11 episodes included went up to an episode where Ernie and his girlfriend used the power of suggestion and trickery (moving shelves down, etc.) to try to convince Uncle Charley he was getting taller, for a school project.

As has been stated elsewhere in this thread, these syndication packages have NEVER made any sense. The B/W episodes could have been one package, and the color episodes could be the other package. Or, it could have been logically split as S1-S7 (the Bryant Park episodes), and S8-S12 (the California episodes).

snowpeck
05-10-2017, 10:17 PM
No, season 11 hasn't been syndicated for years. Years ago, the first few episodes of season 11 were part of the syndication package (the Chip/Polly elopement story arc, and TV Land showed it), then were eliminated and made part of the S1-S5 package. The S11 episodes included went up to an episode where Ernie and his girlfriend used the power of suggestion and trickery (moving shelves down, etc.) to try to convince Uncle Charley he was getting taller, for a school project.

As has been stated elsewhere in this thread, these syndication packages have NEVER made any sense. The B/W episodes could have been one package, and the color episodes could be the other package. Or, it could have been logically split as S1-S7 (the Bryant Park episodes), and S8-S12 (the California episodes).

That's a good sign then that they have the rights to all 12 seasons.

stevea
05-10-2017, 10:31 PM
Yes, I would assume they still have the rights to seasons 6-10. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens when the Summer of Me is over.

Right now there are NO good copies in circulation, of the later S11 and all of S12 episodes. What is available (on auction sites) are episodes that someone taped off the old Odyssey network (now Hallmark), and these were very heavily (and badly) edited. Let's just say, I have high hopes...I really doubt we'll ever see commercial DVDs of the color seasons (let alone the rest of the B/W seasons). (And, an editorial note...what has been issued on commercial DVD so far is HORRIBLE, with substituted episode music...and they probably wonder why it sold badly).

tlc38tlc38
05-11-2017, 10:28 PM
Every time I see one of the new promos for The Summer of Me, it gets me excited for the 29th!

MikeLutton
05-12-2017, 03:55 AM
I will miss the Hulk but I got hole series on dvd I can see anytime I want but what was the point of adding it if not going play hole series and give it to another station months later.

I wish they add color version of the honeymooners to

AMackII
05-15-2017, 11:03 AM
The Main thing I Looking forward to on METV's summer schedule is the return of Remington Steele

tlc38tlc38
05-18-2017, 10:36 AM
"Petticoat Junction" will start with "A Matter of Communication" on May 29.

That's episode 55 from season 2.

Svenfan1234
05-18-2017, 11:24 AM
I just can't wait for one of my favorite detective shows, "Remington Steele", to return. That show is awesome.

stevea
05-22-2017, 08:52 PM
I wonder why Bev. Hillb. is going back to the beginning, when any other show I've checked (like Beaver and Brady) are just resuming where they left off at their previous times.

Must have something to do with an expiration.

BigManMike
05-22-2017, 10:16 PM
I wonder why Bev. Hillb. is going back to the beginning, when any other show I've checked (like Beaver and Brady) are just resuming where they left off at their previous times.

Must have something to do with an expiration.

Happy Days is also going back to the beginning.

Svenfan1234
05-22-2017, 10:18 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing ALF & Remington Steele again!

MA
05-23-2017, 07:40 PM
I wonder why Bev. Hillb. is going back to the beginning, when any other show I've checked (like Beaver and Brady) are just resuming where they left off at their previous times.

Must have something to do with an expiration.

Probably.

Svenfan1234
05-23-2017, 08:00 PM
I don't think it is because of an expiration. Probably a MeTV decision.

stevea
05-23-2017, 10:41 PM
A good Brady Bunch stunt for Summer of Me would be to rerun those Pop Up Brady episodes. I haven't seen those in years.

AceWesternson
05-24-2017, 07:09 AM
Since Swamp thing is joining I like to see Superboy join the line-up and be part of the super scifi saturday night

MA
05-24-2017, 02:09 PM
I don't think it is because of an expiration. Probably a MeTV decision.

Makes sense.

TheLogoMan94
05-24-2017, 08:52 PM
I saw a post on Me-TV's Facebook page about "My Three Sons". Someone noticed that when Me-TV aired a promo for the show, every clip shown was from Seasons 1 and 2. This makes me curious as to if Me-TV actually has seasons 3-5. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

EDIT: Nevermind, in an email, they said they have the whole series.

stevea
05-24-2017, 09:54 PM
Yeah, they should still have access to seasons 6 thru 10, which have been rerun numerous times. The only issue (I thought) had been the rarely shown seasons 11 and 12. Sounds like they have these also.

From this, it also sounds like they plan to continue this show beyond Summer of Me.

Also, as has been said before, please MeTV, DON'T use the commercial DVDs for seasons 1 and 2. (I doubt they will, since these are the only seasons on commercial DVD--other shows they use commercial DVDs for have the whole series on commercial DVD).

TheLogoMan94
05-24-2017, 09:59 PM
Yeah, they should still have access to seasons 6 thru 10, which have been rerun numerous times. The only issue (I thought) had been the rarely shown seasons 11 and 12. Sounds like they have these also.

From this, it also sounds like they plan to continue this show beyond Summer of Me.

Also, as has been said before, please MeTV, DON'T use the commercial DVDs for seasons 1 and 2. (I doubt they will, since these are the only seasons on commercial DVD--other shows they use commercial DVDs for have the whole series on commercial DVD).
What they should do is show the first 5 seasons, then show seasons 11 and 12, since these seasons haven't been seen in 15+ years. If they include seasons 6-10 in the rotation, we won't be able to see the last 2 seasons (11-12) until January 16th, 2018. That's when season 11-episode 01 will air.

Seasons 1-2 have been restored, and from the looks of it, Me-TV has the same restored prints. What I wonder is how good of condition seasons 3-5 are and 11-12, since these haven't been restored, according to the Syndication Bible.

stevea
05-24-2017, 10:33 PM
I hope "restored" doesn't equate to what was released on commercial DVD, with altered music, due to licensing issues from the Capitol Records library. From what I've read, what they substituted was horrible.

Also, YES, please skip seasons 6 thru 10. We've all seen them umpteen times.

TheLogoMan94
05-24-2017, 10:40 PM
I hope "restored" doesn't equate to what was released on commercial DVD, with altered music, due to licensing issues from the Capitol Records library. From what I've read, what they substituted was horrible.

Also, YES, please skip seasons 6 thru 10. We've all seen them umpteen times.
Music licensing for home video releasing is different than licensing music for television Syndication, I believe.

That's what I've heard, too, that the music they used was terrible. I'm anxious to see Seasons 11 and 12. The last time these seasons aired, they aired on Hallmark back around 2000 or so. Those prints were edited, 16mm Syndication prints, from what I've seen.

stevea
05-24-2017, 10:53 PM
This was in pre-Hallmark days, when it was Odyssey network. Yes, they had horribly edited S11 and S12 episodes.

TheLogoMan94
05-24-2017, 10:59 PM
This was in pre-Hallmark days, when it was Odyssey network. Yes, they had horribly edited S11 and S12 episodes.
I remember it well. I kinda hope Me-TV has newer prints of those seasons, but I bet they don't. According to the Syndication Bible, only Seasons 1 and 2 are HD. Aside from Seasons 6-10, which are prints from the 1990's, I'm always curious as to the age of the prints they have. We'll find out in time, I guess.

stevea
05-24-2017, 11:18 PM
We had a local channel that showed those 1990s S6-S10 episodes, in over 25 minute episode length (in other words, unedited), several years ago. The manager claimed they came that way from Paramount--I can't imagine syndication episodes being unedited.

TheLogoMan94
05-24-2017, 11:38 PM
We had a local channel that showed those 1990s S6-S10 episodes, in over 25 minute episode length (in other words, unedited), several years ago. The manager claimed they came that way from Paramount--I can't imagine syndication episodes being unedited.
I can. I have several 16mm prints of Andy Griffith, My Three Sons, Phil Silvers, et cetera that are unedited.

I think Viacom masters from the '80s still exist of seasons 3-5, and Viacom masters from the '70s exist of seasons 11-12. Odyssey (Hallmark) used those '70s masters when they aired seasons 11-12.

tlc38tlc38
05-25-2017, 07:34 AM
I was hoping they'd get back around to airing seasons 5-9 of "The Beverly Hillbillies" since those aren't released on DVD.

stevea
05-25-2017, 08:15 AM
I can. I have several 16mm prints of Andy Griffith, My Three Sons, Phil Silvers, et cetera that are unedited.

I think Viacom masters from the '80s still exist of seasons 3-5, and Viacom masters from the '70s exist of seasons 11-12. Odyssey (Hallmark) used those '70s masters when they aired seasons 11-12.

Does this mean that TV Stations are still playing videotapes? I thought everything had been mastered to DVD by now.

TheLogoMan94
05-25-2017, 08:43 PM
Does this mean that TV Stations are still playing videotapes? I thought everything had been mastered to DVD by now.
"The Beverly Hillbillies" is still available for Syndication on Betacam SP tape, and that's old tape. My guess is Me-TV orders these tapes and transfers them to their own digital tape for later airing? That's a wild guess, because I really don't know.

Speaking of TBH, Me-TV has commented they have "beautiful new HD prints" of the series; however, it can't be much, as according to the Syndication Bible, only seasons 1-4 have been restored.

They appear to have restored episodes of "My Three Sons" as well, but only seasons 1-2. I know this because someone familiar with the show says that Me-TV's promo for the show only uses clips from the first 2 seasons, even though Me-TV owns the entire series (seasons 1-12). This makes me wonder if Me-TV doesn't have HD prints of the other seasons (we know Me-TV's prints of seasons 6-10 are 1990's Viacom prints). My curiosity points toward seasons 3-5. Will Me-TV air Nick@Nite's old Viacom masters from the 1980's (judging by Viacom's logo, what some call, the V of Doom) and Odyssey (Hallmark)'s old masters of seasons 11-12 (1970's Viacom masters, with their logo that sounds like a pinball machine).

Fleet
05-26-2017, 03:23 PM
I am glad The Rifleman is still on the schedule, since it's my all-time favorite TV show. Also glad The Wild Wild West will continue on Saturdays.

Good to see a return of Happy Days.

Svenfan1234
05-29-2017, 10:09 AM
I was curious, since I didn't see it: the first two EPs of M3S aired this morning. Were they exactly from the DVDs, those who saw, or were they new edits?

stevea
05-29-2017, 10:25 AM
The music sounded original, to me, indicating that these are TV syndication episodes, not from commercial DVD. The logo at the end is the relatively new CBS Television Distribution logo, which is good news.

TheLogoMan94
05-29-2017, 10:36 AM
The music sounded original, to me, indicating that these are TV syndication episodes, not from commercial DVD. The logo at the end is the relatively new CBS Television Distribution logo, which is good news.
Sadly, I believe only the first 2 season will look beautiful; after that, it's back to old syndication prints from the stone ages.

Bonniegirl
05-29-2017, 10:48 AM
I've been wondering about this because of the commercials, it looks like Barry Williams is taking over the Dawn Wells "Summer of Me" role:

http://www.metv.com/stories/barry-williams-is-your-tour-guide-for-the-summer-of-me

Seriously, if that no - talent [use your imagination] is on every show I just won't be there to see it.

Yeah I noticed that too! ;) Barry is funny ! :D

I've been seeing the promos for the black and white My three sons eps. Very cool! ;) :)

MA
05-29-2017, 11:37 AM
Is Barry now taking over the role from Dawn?

MA
05-29-2017, 11:39 AM
Why did The Brady Bunch get moved? Didn't the show used to have two episodes on weekday mornings?

stevea
05-29-2017, 03:15 PM
Brady Bunch was shown only once daily, but had (and still has) 4 showings Sunday at noon.

stevea
05-29-2017, 03:17 PM
Sadly, I believe only the first 2 season will look beautiful; after that, it's back to old syndication prints from the stone ages.

Unless that syndication bible or whatever, isn't up to date. We can hope they've remastered more. I REALLY hope they've redone seasons 11 and 12 (not to mention, also hope MeTV will air them!)

I guess we'll be able to tell by the quality, and the logo at the end.

MA
05-29-2017, 03:48 PM
Brady Bunch was shown only once daily, but had (and still has) 4 showings Sunday at noon.

Oh, my bad. Thought the show was on twice.

BigManMike
05-29-2017, 04:17 PM
Unless that syndication bible or whatever, isn't up to date. We can hope they've remastered more. I REALLY hope they've redone seasons 11 and 12 (not to mention, also hope MeTV will air them!)

I guess we'll be able to tell by the quality, and the logo at the end.

Where can I find that syndication bible?

Svenfan1234
05-29-2017, 04:44 PM
MeTV said they have the rights to all seasons of My Three Sons now.

stevea
05-29-2017, 06:06 PM
Where can I find that syndication bible?
See post #164. You might PM him.

storrs19
05-29-2017, 06:39 PM
We had a local channel that showed those 1990s S6-S10 episodes, in over 25 minute episode length (in other words, unedited), several years ago. The manager claimed they came that way from Paramount--I can't imagine syndication episodes being unedited.

On the DVD set I purchased from an auction site years ago, seasons 6 through 10 do tend to run around 25 minutes and were taped from local tv station KONG which I assume is on the west coast somewhere.

storrs19
05-29-2017, 06:43 PM
Where can I find that syndication bible?

It's located here:

http://syndicationbible.cbstvd.com/series/series_contents.htm

TheLogoMan94
05-29-2017, 07:47 PM
Unless that syndication bible or whatever, isn't up to date. We can hope they've remastered more. I REALLY hope they've redone seasons 11 and 12 (not to mention, also hope MeTV will air them!)

I guess we'll be able to tell by the quality, and the logo at the end.
See, I was told CBS stalled the remastering effort for the series. Whether that's true or not, I'm not sure.

Me-TV has said they will air seasons 11-12. I hope they air them after the first 5 seasons; seasons 6-10 have been shown so much.

stevea
05-29-2017, 08:03 PM
The syndication bible also says Petticoat Junction S1 and S2 are not available in syndication. Me TV has been showing those for a couple of years. (Same with the Bonanza lost episodes).

I think what Me TV wants, Me TV gets. And as someone else said, they probably redub whatever format it's in, to suit their needs (I'd think Beta would be a problem, though).

TheLogoMan94
05-29-2017, 08:06 PM
The syndication bible also says Petticoat Junction S1 and S2 are not available in syndication. Me TV has been showing those for a couple of years.

I think what Me TV wants, Me TV gets. And as someone else said, they probably redub whatever format it's in, to suit their needs (I'd think Beta would be a problem, though).
Exactly. It kinda surprised me when I saw some of these older shows were still on BetaSP. I hope the rest of MTS has been restored, but if it's like seasons 6-10, we can expect unresotred, old Syndication prints.

Bonniegirl
05-29-2017, 08:13 PM
MeTV said they have the rights to all seasons of My Three Sons now.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f4/78/be/f478be402624c599c84acc5f99f4b7ea.jpg



:) ;) :clap: :yippee:

stevea
05-29-2017, 08:14 PM
On Me TV, the quality of Gomer Pyle varies. Many versions don't have the CBS Distribution logo (I think a lot of them have the Viacom logo but I'd have to check). I doubt they commercial DVD for sources on Gomer Pyle due to music issues. So Gomer Pyle on Me TV is a mystery, since that bible has many formats available.
(Sorry, a little off topic)

storrs19
05-29-2017, 08:25 PM
I've also noted that many shows on the syndicated bible page haven't been updated for quite some time but it's better than shooting in the dark.

TheLogoMan94
05-29-2017, 08:40 PM
I've also noted that many shows on the syndicated bible page haven't been updated for quite some time but it's better than shooting in the dark.
I believe the last update to the Syndication Bible was on a March 30, 2017. They update it a few times every year. The last update for the MTS entry was back in 2009.

stevea
05-30-2017, 09:05 PM
I hope they continue Mama's Family at 9 pm, after Summer of Me. Much better time for that 6. In the fall it should be 9 and 9:30.

Svenfan1234
05-30-2017, 09:12 PM
Anybody check the runtime on ALF last night to see if it was the syndicated version or not?

Bonniegirl
05-31-2017, 10:56 AM
I'm watching My three sons right now! So glad to be seeing this again! :) Such a cool cute show. And seeing the rare eps. with Bub!;) Chip so young and the adorable dog Tramp! :) And Mike is really cute!! He is crush worthy! :heart:


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7b/33/79/7b337990f1b716236e9a313295dd3e31.jpg

Mr. Television
05-31-2017, 12:11 PM
These early shows are great. It's a travesty how little they have been rerunned over the years.

Ron Ron
06-03-2017, 09:48 PM
If anyone is missing their Incredible Hulk fix....El Rey Network carries it. Three episodes a day starting at noon. On Memorial Day they had a weekend marathon of the series.

Svenfan1234
06-03-2017, 09:57 PM
H&I is also airing The Hulk.

RobbieG
06-04-2017, 07:56 AM
TV Land aired the B&W seasons of My Three Sons. My memory for dates is not good, but Wikipedia says it was in 2000. I thought it was much later than that. They aired them full-length in 40-45 minute blocks in marathon format over the period of a week or so. I mean, each marathon night was many contiguous hours of episodes, but each episode within the marathon spanned 40-45 minutes. They advertised them as being full-length, in 40-45 minute segments to allow for showing them full length and with commercials.

This was NOT like TV Land's current 40-45 minute blocks for some shows like TAGS which are used to show more commercials instead of more of the show. They actually WERE showing all of the M3S show back then. And they had the full closing credits. This is the last time I saw them. I recorded them all from TV Land on VHS. I remember this well because I used the six-hour recording speed (wasn't as concerned about picture quality then as now) and scooped up each night's marathon on one tape. Unfortunately I was not recording on DVD back then.

My collections got moved around to make room for me to use a walker when I came home from a hospitalization and I have not been able to find my M3S tapes since then. They are here somewhere, but I don't have the time or energy to look for them.

The Starz Encore Black channel runs some of the old 70s black sitcoms, full-screen, correct aspect ratio. I wish one of the Encore channels would do this for shows like M3S which will never be released properly on DVD due to the music rights issues.

At least we can see them on MeTV right now, although I can only watch them letter-boxed or cropped since MeTV went widescreen.

stevea
06-04-2017, 02:50 PM
The MeTV wide screen thing is your local channel, probably, not MeTV. Locally I still get it in glorious SD (can't say the same for Cozi TV). I get so sick of these cropped pictures--if it's not cropped at the top and bottom, it's cropped on the sides.

I wish I had had my VHS going for the M3Ss you described. The TV Land you describe would be unknown today.

What Starz/Encore Black is doing, is great. Uncut episodes, run clean.

TheLogoMan94
06-04-2017, 04:14 PM
The MeTV wide screen thing is your local channel, probably, not MeTV. Locally I still get it in glorious SD (can't say the same for Cozi TV). I get so sick of these cropped pictures--if it's not cropped at the top and bottom, it's cropped on the sides.

I wish I had had my VHS going for the M3Ss you described. The TV Land you describe would be unknown today.

What Starz/Encore Black is doing, is great. Uncut episodes, run clean.
MeTV in my area is in HD, and it's in a 14:9 aspect ratio, and so is the satellite feed. Doesn't bother me as much as it used to, but I still wish the shows were in their original 4:3 ratio.

I remember that TV Land well, I absolutely loved it. It was THE network to watch. Now it's unrecognizable, and I hate what it's became. :(

RobbieG
06-04-2017, 08:30 PM
The MeTV wide screen thing is your local channel, probably, not MeTV. Locally I still get it in glorious SD (can't say the same for Cozi TV). I get so sick of these cropped pictures--if it's not cropped at the top and bottom, it's cropped on the sides.

I wish I had had my VHS going for the M3Ss you described. The TV Land you describe would be unknown today.

What Starz/Encore Black is doing, is great. Uncut episodes, run clean.

No, MeTV went widescreen last year. It's YOUR local station, not MeTV. Some are still downconverting to 4:3. Mine stopped last month. But I noticed the downconversion was cropped on our local station the past year since MeTV went widescreen: the tops of characters' heads being cut off, and some credits being chopped off on the left and right.

I talked to the local station manager and he said they got too many complaints about the pillar-boxing. Also advertisers were not happy their widescreen commercials were being downconverted to 4:3.

Also, our station preempts MeTV with lots of news and original local programming and baseball games, so they want that to appear in all its glorious widescreen. We get to see very little of The Summer of ME each year because of baseball games. At least this year some of the summer programming is in the morning and afternoon before the games. Couldn't watch the premiere of Battlestar Galactica last night: preempted by a baseball game.

The stations in our area are obsessed with news, sports, and weather. I wish MeTV had deployed over a national cable or satellite channel. Remember, it was these locals that abandoned showing old TV shows for talk shows and expanded news before the digital transition! Why trust them a second time? Some networks that deploy over digital subchannels like GET, GRIT, COZI, and BUZZR are now carried nationally on Dish. I hope MeTV follows suit.

My standalone recording devices are analog-only, so the widescreen format gets downconverted to letter boxed over the composite outputs from my cable box. So I had to switch to OTA and get a converter box which allows me to adjust the picture size. (None of the rotten Time Warner cable box aspect ratio or picture size settings seem to work over the composite outputs--only HDMI.) Since I like to be able to see character faces clearly, I choose cropped rather than seeing everything squished letter-boxed on my relatively small 27" picture tube TV. Eventually I will buy a bigger TV, but my TV was fine for 4:3 MeTv--until MeTV abandoned it.

So, although EVERY show MeTV airs originally aired in 4:3 (even though some were filmed in 16:9), we've got to put up with this crap because of the advertisers. I hope this isn't the beginning of MeTV declining the way TV Land has--caring more about the advertisers than the viewers. Yes, I know, the advertisers are their real customers.

This is why I prefer the Starz Encore Black route--no advertisers to deal with.

If your local station is still downconverting into true non-cropped 4:3, count yourself lucky. Let me know where you live and maybe I'll move there.

RobbieG
06-04-2017, 08:32 PM
The MeTV wide screen thing is your local channel, probably, not MeTV. Locally I still get it in glorious SD (can't say the same for Cozi TV). I get so sick of these cropped pictures--if it's not cropped at the top and bottom, it's cropped on the sides.

I wish I had had my VHS going for the M3Ss you described. The TV Land you describe would be unknown today.

What Starz/Encore Black is doing, is great. Uncut episodes, run clean.

Here's the Wikpedia info on the MeTV format change last year:

In February 2016, the network began to transmit its master feed in 16:9 widescreen standard definition (which is also the preferred aspect ratio for sister networks Heroes & Icons and Decades), after conducting beta-testing in the format on WWME-CD months earlier. Although most affiliates continue to carry the MeTV feed in the 4:3 format due to technical considerations regarding transmission of their primary channel in high-definition and/or carriage of other subchannels, the switch to a widescreen feed was done mainly to accommodate national and local advertisers that produce commercials exclusively in the 16:9 format and prefer not to have their advertising letterboxed into a 4:3 presentation, and stations which carry newscasts and other local programming on their MeTV subchannels that prefer to present them in widescreen. With the conversion, MeTV also began to carry remastered widescreen prints of some programs (such as CHiPs, The Incredible Hulk and Wonder Woman) and present its program promotions in the 16:9 format.

MA
06-04-2017, 09:07 PM
Is anything in fullscreen at all?

RobbieG
06-04-2017, 09:20 PM
Sometimes I think the REAL reason for the digital transition was to stop fair use home DVD recording (because of piracy concerns).

Yes, you can record on your cable or satellite DVR, but it's very difficult to get the HD recordings off to DVD.

I use Pioneer HDD / DVD recorders but any HD picture is letter-boxed, or worse, window-boxed, over the cable/satellite composite outputs to the Pioneer composite inputs.

No consumer electronics recording devices with HDMI inputs that I'm aware of, and HDMI is copy-protected anyway. Maybe computers can be used, but that's complicated.

HDMI to composite converters letter-box or window-box the picture.

And even someone like myself who is mainly interested is old SD programming is foiled by MeTV converting to widescreen and now I have to record letter-boxed (from the cable box) or cropped (from the digital converter box). And I will soon be ditching cable now that I can't record full-screen from the local subchannels now.

Antenna TV is still full-screen, but they employ an even worse form of "cropping" in the form of crunching closing and opening theme songs and credits, and worse, opening scenes.

The only decent recordings I can get are from Starz Encore Black on satellite.

I was complaining in avsforum about all these headaches and someone there said, "If I want to see the program in its original aspect ratio, I just buy the DVD." I do buy shows on DVD, but such a glib statement overlooks the fact that it is likely some shows will NEVER be released properly on DVD, like My Three Sons. I notice 77 Sunset Strip is not on DVD either.

RobbieG
06-04-2017, 09:22 PM
Is anything in fullscreen at all?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing as I typed my last reply.

snowpeck
06-05-2017, 04:45 PM
My station was stretching everything to widescreen. I emailed the station about it and they said there was nothing they could do to fix it. I emailed MeTV about it and they made the station fix it. So I would try one or both of those routes.

MA
06-05-2017, 04:53 PM
My station was stretching everything to widescreen. I emailed the station about it and they said there was nothing they could do to fix it. I emailed MeTV about it and they made the station fix it. So I would try one or both of those routes.

Maybe more success in emailing MeTV.

RobbieG
06-06-2017, 04:15 AM
Maybe more success in emailing MeTV.

I already emailed MeTV. They referred my email to the station. The station programming manager called me and said they were staying with the widescreen format because they got too many viewer complaints about the pillar-boxing on their HDTVs when broadcasting MeTV in 4:3. I guess too many viewers don't know how to use the picture size controls on their HDTVs.

Robbie

RobbieG
06-06-2017, 04:17 AM
My station was stretching everything to widescreen. I emailed the station about it and they said there was nothing they could do to fix it. I emailed MeTV about it and they made the station fix it. So I would try one or both of those routes.

snowpeck, did you talk to anyone specifically at MeTV?

I already emailed MeTV. They referred my email to the station. The station programming manager called me and said they were staying with the widescreen format because they got too many viewer complaints about the pillar-boxing on their HDTVs when broadcasting MeTV in 4:3. I guess too many viewers don't know how to use the picture size controls on their HDTVs.

Robbie

MA
06-06-2017, 06:42 PM
I already emailed MeTV. They referred my email to the station. The station programming manager called me and said they were staying with the widescreen format because they got too many viewer complaints about the pillar-boxing on their HDTVs when broadcasting MeTV in 4:3. I guess too many viewers don't know how to use the picture size controls on their HDTVs.

Robbie

I meant for the others who have the problem.

stevea
06-06-2017, 07:13 PM
Here's the Wikpedia info on the MeTV format change last year:

In February 2016, the network began to transmit its master feed in 16:9 widescreen standard definition (which is also the preferred aspect ratio for sister networks Heroes & Icons and Decades), after conducting beta-testing in the format on WWME-CD months earlier. Although most affiliates continue to carry the MeTV feed in the 4:3 format due to technical considerations regarding transmission of their primary channel in high-definition and/or carriage of other subchannels, the switch to a widescreen feed was done mainly to accommodate national and local advertisers that produce commercials exclusively in the 16:9 format and prefer not to have their advertising letterboxed into a 4:3 presentation, and stations which carry newscasts and other local programming on their MeTV subchannels that prefer to present them in widescreen. With the conversion, MeTV also began to carry remastered widescreen prints of some programs (such as CHiPs, The Incredible Hulk and Wonder Woman) and present its program promotions in the 16:9 format.

Really sorry to blame local channels. And I apologize for the obviously wrong post up there. This tech 4:3 and 16:9 stuff is hard to understand when you're used to plain old TV. I do get sick of seeing some things (on varying other channels) in wide screen, cropped at the top, other things cropped on the sides, other things cropped on all 4 sides, and finally yet other things full screen, but looking "squeezed" from the sides.

Somehow WTHR broadcasts MeTV looking like normal SD (but when they interrupt for live weather alerts their HD signal in SD looks horribly cut off at the sides). On some shows (like the Love Boat), the credits appear to be too wide for the screen (which is probably a function of this change). (I have an old SD TV.)

MA
06-06-2017, 07:44 PM
I'm sick of the letterboxing and widescreen as well.

Svenfan1234
06-06-2017, 07:56 PM
My Me-TV isn't letterboxed or wide-screen. It's Antenna that's letterboxed but I can live with that.

stevea
06-06-2017, 10:31 PM
In Indy MeTV and Antenna are both in normal SD (but I suppose this could change at any time). Cozi TV is sometimes cropped on the sides (I really hate this-it looks horrible), and sometimes full screen but squeezed-looking.

I suppose all of this will be settled if the cable companies ever decide to make HD "normal" and quit charging extra for it.

MA
06-07-2017, 05:49 AM
My MeTV is letterboxed.

snowpeck
07-16-2017, 07:26 PM
Small change to the schedule that took effect today. Sundays at 4PM they're running the 90 minute episodes of The Love Boat (instead of two hour-long episodes) followed by an episode of Love American Style at 5:30PM.

Bonniegirl
07-16-2017, 07:31 PM
Small change to the schedule that took effect today. Sundays at 4PM they're running the 90 minute episodes of The Love Boat (instead of two hour-long episodes) followed by an episode of Love American Style at 5:30PM.


I'm looking forward to seeing Love American Style!!! :) ;) :heart:

MA
07-16-2017, 07:43 PM
Small change to the schedule that took effect today. Sundays at 4PM they're running the 90 minute episodes of The Love Boat (instead of two hour-long episodes) followed by an episode of Love American Style at 5:30PM.

Is the channel eventually going to go back to the 2 hour long episodes again?

sabrelucynut
07-17-2017, 02:28 AM
nice for people that can see it, my local ME tv puts local and mostly paid programming on so I can't see a lot of what everybody else does

stevea
07-17-2017, 09:43 AM
My local channel must have had a problem with it--they had a technical difficulties slide up during that time. Maybe the commercial times were different and they hadn't ben able to program in the new times.

stevea
07-17-2017, 09:46 AM
Next Sunday I see the Love American Style episode is the Happy Days pilot.