ok..so i was wondering. say if someone was cutting himself. right, now they could not possibly kill themselves could they? i mean you are cutting by your veins on your arms so...you know. i'm just very confoosed about that right now. so explain, por favor. gracias.

I've heard that sliting your wrists doesn't work because you don't bleed enough.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I've heard that sliting your wrists doesn't work because you don't bleed enough.

yes it does...it bleeds a lot. so much..uncontrollable..blood...flowing out and no stopping it. not that i would know..but...

Originally posted by InspectorExstead


yes it does...it bleeds a lot. so much..uncontrollable..blood...flowing out and no stopping it. not that i would know..but...

Yes, you can kill yourself by slitting your wrists, you're right. I know several people whom have tried or succeeded in killing themselves that way.

Cutting yourself indicates you need some help/ guidance and quick. Because once cutting yourself doesn't satisfy that need, so to speak. It's going to get more and more serious. Therefore, cutting deeper and deeper until you really do cut yourself enough to kill. (example: Drug addicts. Usually, they'll maybe start out with something not real real bad and keep working up to needled drugs, etc. Until they overdose and die.)

ok here is my 2 cents lol

if you cut your rist straght across you wont die...
but if you cut at an angle there would be no way your hand could be saved i mean if nobody catches you you will die but if your cought in time you'll just loose your hand.. so if you were to kill yourself by cutting your rist you have to do it at an angle ok.... wel buh bye:wave:

Originally posted by #1_Nancy_McKeon
Cutting yourself indicates you need some help/ guidance and quick. Because once cutting yourself doesn't satisfy that need, so to speak. It's going to get more and more serious. Therefore, cutting deeper and deeper until you really do cut yourself enough to kill. (example: Drug addicts. Usually, they'll maybe start out with something not real real bad and keep working up to needled drugs, etc. Until they overdose and die.)


I agree with the comments above. If you are doing this to yourself, or are thinking about doing it, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE talk to somebody about it before you do yourself real harm!

Someone else said that "it depends on the angle". Unless you are an experienced surgeon, there is no way the average person could know which angle would be "safe", and which angle would be dangerous. You could accidently sever an artery and bleed to death. Even if you didn't bleed to death, there's always the possibility of an infection setting in that could be fatal, or if you lived, result in the amputation of your hand or arm.

I admit that I'm no medical expert, but I find some of the comments on this thread really scary. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS TO YOURSELF! There isn't anything positive that could come from experimenting with something as dangerous as this. Find someone that you trust to talk to before something terrible happens that cannot be reversed.

A Lot of my friends do it. If you cut your arms down that vein, you will die if you don't get help, but it takes a long time to die if you do it straight across. I'm talking about if you slit from elbow to wrist on that vein, you know? But whoever you know that's doing it needs to get help right away.

I don't really know anyone who does that... my friend tried to make it LOOk like she cut herself just for attention... but even if you're doing that you need some help. I think maybe one of my friends tried to commit suicide that way... I have very messed up friends, i know.

I used to hang out with friends that cut themselves. I never did it, because I thought it was just a -ucked up way to feel better. I'm squemish and I can't stand the sight of blood- so maybe thats why I didn't do it. Seriously, they would take razor blades and just slice it into their arm or leg. They would carve in little designs and show everybody. One friend tried to cut herself with a razor blade, but her mom caught her. She took a pair of scissors and just cut into herself that way. I think my friends have straightened up, but get your friend some help. They may be pissed off at the time if you do tell someone, but you could be saving their life....

The cool thing to do right now is to cut the name of your exboyfriend into your ankle when they break up with you. VERY STUPID!!! You can never wear sandals or lowcut socks again, unless you do it really shallowly (???) or something. My friend has that problem, cuz she doesn't want her mom to see it, so she always has to wear socks.

Originally posted by Jenny
but you could be saving their life....

Or her own, I think.

Oh trust me. I know. You can kill yourself. Especially if you do your wrists multiple times in the same spot. Any major vein that you can see, if you cut that multiple times and you kept doing it and doing it and don't get help, you will die.

Karli, how would you know? If that isn't too personal!

Originally posted by NancyMcKeon1987
Karli, how would you know? If that isn't too personal!

It's....ah...well I bet you could figure it out.

Yeah i think that i got it ;) IM me at DollyG1016 though, if u wanna talk about it! :wave:

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
Oh trust me. I know. You can kill yourself. Especially if you do your wrists multiple times in the same spot. Any major vein that you can see, if you cut that multiple times and you kept doing it and doing it and don't get help, you will die.

The deeper you go the greater the risk. The deeper you go the more the pain/depression will ease. The deeper you go the better/ more relieved you feel. The The deeper you go the bigger the scar. The deeper you go the less it is to hide.

But than again.........

How will you know I am hurting,
If you cannot see my pain?
To wear it on my body
Tells what words cannot explain.
-C. Blount

Maybe you want there to be scars.........

I dont understand what it is so bad that makes you guys want to cut yourself? What could be that bad? Being sad shouldnt make you want to hurt yourself. You need serious help if you are doing this and not seeing a doctor to get meds would be a very stubborn thing to do. Life is not something to toy with. Once you lose it, that's it! It's over. There are no second chances. Once you're gone you're gone. What is death going to solve? Seriously, what would that solve? It would only cause more problems to the ones who love you here on earth. So please get some help for those of you who cut yourself instead of posting about it on a message board. That isn't going to help.

ok...thanx for all the words but i kinda phrased to question wrong. here i go again...

ok..you know when you get a blood test done and the doctor puts the needle in your arm by your elbow? now, if you cut yourself there u can't kill yourself can u?

Originally posted by tootieismyfav
I dont understand what it is so bad that makes you guys want to cut yourself? What could be that bad? Being sad shouldnt make you want to hurt yourself. You need serious help if you are doing this and not seeing a doctor to get meds would be a very stubborn thing to do. Life is not something to toy with. Once you lose it, that's it! It's over. There are no second chances. Once you're gone you're gone. What is death going to solve? Seriously, what would that solve? It would only cause more problems to the ones who love you here on earth. So please get some help for those of you who cut yourself instead of posting about it on a message board. That isn't going to help.

everything

Originally posted by InspectorExstead
ok..you know when you get a blood test done and the doctor puts the needle in your arm by your elbow? now, if you cut yourself there u can't kill yourself can u?

You should really get some help. You dont need to be cutting yourself at all. And what do you mean by "everything"? What exactly is everything?

You're going to end up killing yourself one way or another even if you're supposely doing it in a "safe way". Keep it up and you will be gone. Maybe you should re-evaluate your decision to do this.

Originally posted by tootieismyfav
You're going to end up killing yourself one way or another even if you're supposely doing it in a "safe way". Keep it up and you will be gone.

Always great to have a friend who's postive about it ,huh, Jeff?

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


Always great to have a friend who's postive about it ,huh, Jeff?

I'm not going to condone anyones suicide. I'm never going to be like oh okay I guess you should do it. No. Someone who asks if its alright to cut in certain spots needs to see a doctor.

Originally posted by tootieismyfav


I'm not going to condone anyones suicide. I'm never going to be like oh okay I guess you should do it. No. Someone who asks if its alright to cut in certain spots needs to see a doctor.

*shrugs* Maybe Mimi knows some one that doe sit there and fears for them and need to know if it's harmful enough to do that. Maybe she's not doing it Jeff. You have to think here.

Originally posted by tootieismyfav
So please get some help for those of you who cut yourself instead of posting about it on a message board. That isn't going to help.

I wasn't going on about it on a message board. I was answering her damn question. I don't exactly like to publicize my life issues here. Look I don't want to fight with you today. NancyMcKeon1987 said to me "How would you know?" And instead of going on and on sounding like I'm bragging "Oh yeah I cut myself, yup, ya know" I just said "Well I think you can figure it out". It is NOT something to be proud of, and it's something you shouldn't do. I don't think you'd like to be walking down the hall at school with everyone gaping at your arms. But let me tell you one thing and one thing only. If you were in some of the situations of cutters, you'd do it too.

And for your information, I have help. But sometimes help just ain't good enough.

Who would even wanna think about doing that? You're taking your own life and its just pure crazy!

Originally posted by NYangel
You're taking your own life and its just pure crazy!

Cutting and suicide don't always go hand in hand. Being a cutter doesn't mean that you want to kill youself. It can mean that but some people just need to, I dunno, get rid of their "pain" by means of cutting but they don't wanna kill themselves. *shrugs* Geez you guys, wanna look at it from the cutters POV?

You know, their minds work differently. They know its bad and they know the consequences..... and oh God. I can't explain this to you. You need to be one to understand one. And ya know, if you are so set on trashing people who do it, well, consider yourself now part of their problem.

It's like an addiction. One someone starts to cut themselves, they really can't help it. I don't know, but we were talking about this kind of stuff in my Psychology class. I don't know why they start to cut themselves, and really, it's none of my buisness. I just know it's hard for them to stop even if they wanted to.

Originally posted by Ricky Ricardo
It's like an addiction. One someone starts to cut themselves, they really can't help it. I don't know, but we were talking about this kind of stuff in my Psychology class. I don't know why they start to cut themselves, and really, it's none of my buisness. I just know it's hard for them to stop even if they wanted to.

THANK YOU CHRIS!

Yeah, exactly. You cut yourself and than have periods where everything is going okay and you stop but than some small little stupid detail will get you pissed or depressed again and you're back to your old ways. It really is stupid but it is addicting. You get used to the pain that it brings and you begin to get comforted by the blood and pain. It just is your #1 way to make youself feel better and its stupid. It's so comforting to you and yo're used to it and I dunno........... it is addiciting.


And one more thing, no matter how good the shirnk, they don't help @ all. The only people who help are cutters themselves.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl
Yeah, exactly. You cut yourself and than have periods where everything is going okay and you stop but than some small little stupid detail will get you pissed or depressed again and you're back to your old ways. It really is stupid but it is addicting. You get used to the pain that it brings and you begin to get comforted by the blood and pain. It just is your #1 way to make youself feel better and its stupid. It's so comforting to you and yo're used to it and I dunno........... it is addiciting.


And one more thing, no matter how good the shirnk, they don't help @ all. The only people who help are cutters themselves.

Thank you! Like Caitlin said before, our minds are different. We can't help what we do. That's why there are such things as meds and doctors. But all the people trashing us and saying "that isn't right". Well we know damn well it ain't right, but you know, when people say that and think "That's crazy", it doesn't help us much either.

Originally posted by NYangel
Who would even wanna think about doing that? You're taking your own life and its just pure crazy!

Exactly. Maybe my mind doesnt think like a cutters mind but all I know is that life is beautiful. It is not something to be toyed with. We're all here for a reason and to kill ourself shouldnt be it. *sigh* Either way though, I wish anyone who does do things like that to themselves the best of luck and I hope you get better. :)

Originally posted by tootieismyfav


*sigh* Either way though, I wish anyone who does do things like that to themselves the best of luck and I hope you get better. :)

No you don't.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


No you don't.

Actually I do. I'm sorry you can't realize that. You make me want to cry sometimes the way you want to kill yourself. I'm sure this means nothing to you though since you hate me.

Originally posted by NYangel
Who would even wanna think about doing that? You're taking your own life and its just pure crazy!

First I want to say that I really hope not to sound rude in this post. Second I want to ask why anybody would want to live? I mean I dunno about other people but all I have seen is that life is bad. So now can somebody answer my question about whats so good about being alive?

Originally posted by Demi Lynn Winters


First I want to say that I really hope not to sound rude in this post. Second I want to ask why anybody would want to live? I mean I dunno about other people but all I have seen is that life is bad. So now can somebody answer my question about whats so good about being alive?

My life has been pretty crappy too, but for some reason I stick around. I never know when I may get out of the **** field and into the diamond field. My advice for anybody on this board thinking about suicide or about to go drown down a bottle of pills or something, stick around for awhile. Life may improve in a minutes notice. Ya- I know that sounds like something you would read in the Reader's Digest or something, but you never know. ....

Originally posted by tootieismyfav


Actually I do. I'm sorry you can't realize that. You make me want to cry sometimes the way you want to kill yourself. I'm sure this means nothing to you though since you hate me.

Jeff, how many times do I have to say this. I don't want to kill myself. Yes, I admitt I think that its the easy way out and I ofetn think about doing it but I will never do it. Yeah, sure I may cut but I won't purposely kill myself.

The most accurate definition of suicide that I've ever heard goes like this:

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


Jeff, how many times do I have to say this. I don't want to kill myself. Yes, I admitt I think that its the easy way out and I ofetn think about doing it but I will never do it. Yeah, sure I may cut but I won't purposely kill myself.

Do you ever think you'll stop? If you're sad about something why not talk about it to someone, you've got to realize there are other ways to handle problems besides cutting. I know that you say it is addicting but addiction can be overcome. There are smokers who have smoked for years who quit in one day and alcoholics who will stop to drink completely.

Originally posted by tootieismyfav


Do you ever think you'll stop? If you're sad about something why not talk about it to someone, you've got to realize there are other ways to handle problems besides cutting. I know that you say it is addicting but addiction can be overcome. There are smokers who have smoked for years who quit in one day and alcoholics who will stop to drink completely.

Jeff, do not comapre smoking and cutting or alcohol and cutting. And I know I can talk to people but sometimes it's a problem that people won't understand or it is so stupid that people will look @ you and be like, "And you're upset over that?!?!?!" When people say that all it does is add to the problems and sometimes it's just not worth it to tell anyone.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


Jeff, do not comapre smoking and cutting or alcohol and cutting. And I know I can talk to people but sometimes it's a problem that people won't understand or it is so stupid that people will look @ you and be like, "And you're upset over that?!?!?!" When people say that all it does is add to the problems and sometimes it's just not worth it to tell anyone.

Okay. I just hope you don't think you can continue doing this forever.

Originally posted by tootieismyfav


Okay. I just hope you don't think you can continue doing this forever.

And all you care about is that we stop........

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


*shrugs* Maybe Mimi knows some one that doe sit there and fears for them and need to know if it's harmful enough to do that. Maybe she's not doing it Jeff. You have to think here.

yeah, maybe ur right, maybe ur not.

since ur so interested jeff, i shall tell u. i'm not cutting myself. i probably will never have enough courage to. but i admit, i do think about it. who doesn't? ok, wrong question. and i was going to but i couldn't go through with it, that's where the pencil came in handy, but, in case i do, you know. and life isn't good. just-crap. that's the lovely lil word to describe it.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl
They know its bad and they know the consequences..... and oh God. I can't explain this to you. You need to be one to understand one.

but none of that matters. all u want is for the pain to stop. to just go away to a far, far, FAR way place and to never come back.

Ok, ya'll. We know it's wrong and stupid, so you can stop telling us that now.

Originally posted by Jimbo
The most accurate definition of suicide that I've ever heard goes like this:

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

suicide is not a solution to anything. you're just running away and leaving the ones that love u to deal with your "solution." suicide doesn't solve anything-no matter how big or bad the problem is. there are so many other ways to deal with a problem than just ending ur life. it's a waste of life, my opinion.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


And all you care about is that we stop........

No actually I care about you and what you're doing to your body. I'm done telling you what I think about it though because it means nothing to you. Bye.

I've raised a couple of daughters so I've seen that kids are going to thrash out their problems in a away that indicates that they believe that they already know everything . So, usually, I don't bother pointing out to them that maybe, just maybe, they don't. Remember when I posted the story about Cara being Myrtle the old marijuana smoking lady? Two things happened then that didn't make any sense. Some of you thought the story was about Cara, which, of course, it wasn't, it was a fictional story, and if anything it was a way to pay attention to a kid who appeared to be troubled. But another thing, some of you say you want to be writers and all of you are sitcom fans but yet you vociferously indicated that anyone (me in this case) who would take the time to write a story must be bordering on crazy and must have too much time on their hands. So, judging by that, you all must think that writers in general and writers of your favorite sitcoms churn out their words as easily as eating breakfast; no effort, no dedication, no live and learn. Actually though, for everyword that makes the final cut, for every story that is written, a thousand more words and stories were written leading up to that final cut or the story that was published. It's a challenge and not an easy one, just as is life. You have to work at it.

Here is a quote from a book by Anne Lamott that I hope will give you something to think about. Maybe it will just blow by you but, hey, I gotta try. You know?

[E. L. Doctorow once said that "writing a novel is like driving a car at night. You can see only as far as your headlights, but you can make the whole trip that way." You don't have to see where you're going, you don't have to see your destination or everything you will pass along the way. You just have to see two or three feet ahead you. This is right up there with the best advice about writing, or life, that I have ever heard.]

Originally posted by InspectorExstead


but none of that matters. all u want is for the pain to stop. to just go away to a far, far, FAR way place and to never come back.

You want the depression, the pain that the depression has cause you and you want the pain that the razor or scisorrs or whatever you use, to bring to you.

Mimi, it does come back. It comes back and you do it all over again. Viscious (sp?) cycle!

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


You want the depression, the pain that the depression has cause you and you want the pain that the razor or scisorrs or whatever you use, to bring to you.

Mimi, it does come back. It comes back and you do it all over again. Viscious (sp?) cycle!

no...it has run away..far away to the middle of no where. viscious? viscious? never thought it would be viscious. ok, that is not starting to look like a word anymore...

Originally posted by InspectorExstead


no...it has run away..far away to the middle of no where. viscious? viscious? never thought it would be viscious. ok, that is not starting to look like a word anymore...

Mimi, honestly, you have to be one to understand one.

I am totally not getting into this, just wanted to say that I 1000000000000000000000000000% agree with Jeff.

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


Mimi, honestly, you have to be one to understand one.

oooh.

Originally posted by NancyRulz24
I am totally not getting into this, just wanted to say that I 1000000000000000000000000000% agree with Jeff.

You're already into it somewhat... and yes MiMi oooooooooh! lol

Originally posted by Teddys_Gurl


You're already into it somewhat... and yes MiMi oooooooooh! lol


MMMMKAY.

Originally posted by NancyRulz24



MMMMKAY.

MMMMKAY.