it seems some stories features on the segments have no information about them out side of the UM segments. Not even an article.


examples


The Wackers
Sarah Powell
Aileen Conway
Lisa Bishop and the Freedon
Phillip Fraser (I think)


and I am sure there are more


this is too bad

Never been able to find any information about the Don Smith murder, but that's one of those cases that's frustrating to search for since it's such a common name.

I also don't believe I've ever uncovered any articles about Matthew Chase's murder.

I always wanted more information on the Monica Libao case. Heck, I'm still a little shocked that we don't have any super-long discussions on it, because holy cow!

The one about Gail Noltan, the Salem woman who disappeared in 1992. Her case was part of the Laurie Cabot segment in 1997.

Tim McClure post 1992.

Tim McClure post 1992.

I sometimes wonder if Tim maybe died back in the 90s before obits were online and maybe that's why we can't find him.

I always wanted more information on the Monica Libao case. Heck, I'm still a little shocked that we don't have any super-long discussions on it, because holy cow!

The Monica Libao case is quite fascinating. I mostly credit the lack of discussion to there being little to discuss. We don't know enough about the circumstances under which she would have been abducted to formulate theories. The only thing up for discussion would seem to be whether or not she really was abducted or was instead an "off the grid" adoption. Her mother's hysterectomy is proof that she didn't give birth to Monica. From there, everything that points to abduction is fairly subjective. That would be the only potential avenue of discussion, and it would be based on personal feelings rather than real evidence. That makes it unlikely to be bandied for too long on here.

I sometimes wonder if Tim maybe died back in the 90s before obits were online and maybe that's why we can't find him.

I wonder if he legally changed his name so it would stop being an issue. But yeah... he basically fell off the face of the earth after the charges were dismissed.

I wonder if he legally changed his name so it would stop being an issue. But yeah... he basically fell off the face of the earth after the charges were dismissed.

That's a good thought as well.

I'd imagine if Tim is alive and knew about all the attention he gets on this forum from certain people he'd be happy as Larry and basking in the limelight.

It seriously pains me that so little is known about Anna Anton and that we don't even have a picture of her.

I jokingly suggested a few weeks ago that she really was in the Witness Protection Program... I'm starting to wonder...

It seriously pains me that so little is known about Anna Anton and that we don't even have a picture of her.

I jokingly suggested a few weeks ago that she really was in the Witness Protection Program... I'm starting to wonder...

It's certainly a possibility I've considered since there was very little about her. Even if she wasn't actually in witness protection, she had a past that someone wanted to remain secret. Since they were able to solve the case without revealing more about her (because this was a wanted segment looking for a specific fugitive), they obviously left that stuff out. Definitely frustrating.

There isn't much information about Rebecca Young, the girl who got murdered in Florida and the Spanish guy witnessed it and called police. There are a couple of articles but that's it. Also Tom Roche, the motor biker who disappeared then his remains were found. I may be wrong so if anybody finds anything let me know!

It seriously pains me that so little is known about Anna Anton and that we don't even have a picture of her.

I jokingly suggested a few weeks ago that she really was in the Witness Protection Program... I'm starting to wonder...

This drives me up the wall as well. It has always been a case my younger brother and I quote a lot, other than Omar. We were in a diner last week and he casually looks up to me to ask: "were you and Anna Anton ever intimate?".

I'll be damned if I wasn't wiping coffee off the walls and table.

Waddada or whatever that segment was really called. The guy with the funny hand who attacked a college student.

Lisette Nikida lol. So minor yet so....lacking in info

Waddada or whatever that segment was really called. The guy with the funny hand who attacked a college student.


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Waddada or whatever that segment was really called. The guy with the funny hand who attacked a college student.

Sarah Beard was the girl he attacked. It's a shame there isn't more info although according to the UM wiki page, Wadada has never been found.

Random fact: Sarah was a student at the Universty of New Mexico the same time as Tara Calico. Tara's disappearance and Sarah's attack happened during the same semester.

Patsy Wright. Although it is not much, there is more info out there than I originally thought thanks to some posters on here. but such a unique murder in my hometown area with a few suspects. I would have expected there to be more about her outside of UM.

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:lol: first thing I thought of also, but you beat me to it! :crazy:

One segment where I am hard pressed and surprised to not find any info on outside the segment is Adam Hecht

One case was the Scott Johnson and Peter Hill case back in 1974. This one seems to be forgotten.

First of all, all publicity after the fire seemed to be about Scott Johnson, and little was ever mentioned about the other boy in the fire. (UM never mentioned the other boys name).

I've wondered whether Scott's mother eventually just gave up, or even eventually died herself (she must be up there in years now, due to the year Scott died being 1974). The last news I ever read about the case was what can be found on the UM Wikia, around 1994.

One case was the Scott Johnson and Peter Hill case back in 1974. This one seems to be forgotten.

First of all, all publicity after the fire seemed to be about Scott Johnson, and little was ever mentioned about the other boy in the fire. (UM never mentioned the other boys name).

I've wondered whether Scott's mother eventually just gave up, or even eventually died herself (she must be up there in years now, due to the year Scott died being 1974). The last news I ever read about the case was what can be found on the UM Wikia, around 1994.

We talked in the other thread about this. The fact that UM withheld his name was proof (in my eyes) that Peter Hill's family probably did not wish to be interviewed. After nearly two decades, they might not have wished to reopen old wounds and had probably already made their peace.

That segment featured interviews with the original investigator, one of the original firefighters and the two eyewitnesses who reported the fire that day. I'm thinking if Peter's family wanted to be interviewed, they would. Although, I'm thinking Scott would have been more of the focus regardless since the murders took place less than 50 yards from the Johnson home.

Anna Antwon comes to mind. I've always wondered how she looked since they never showed an actual picture of her

Dexter Stefonek

Killed in a Montana rest area in 1985 while driving home from Oregon to Wisconsin. His car was lit on fire and his body was found in a landfill a few months later. This always stuck with me because he lived pretty close to where I grew up even if the actual incident happened in Montana. For the longest time the only real info was on Unsolved Mysteries but it was nice to see this recent article written about it. Still unsolved after 32 years.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/crime/long-ago-bad-route-rest-stop-murder-still-puzzles-dawson/article_a8136b42-7109-5695-be17-0181840a0e53.html

Dexter Stefonek

Killed in a Montana rest area in 1985 while driving home from Oregon to Wisconsin. His car was lit on fire and his body was found in a landfill a few months later. This always stuck with me because he lived pretty close to where I grew up even if the actual incident happened in Montana. For the longest time the only real info was on Unsolved Mysteries but it was nice to see this recent article written about it. Still unsolved after 32 years.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/crime/long-ago-bad-route-rest-stop-murder-still-puzzles-dawson/article_a8136b42-7109-5695-be17-0181840a0e53.html

Segata Sanshiro?!

And Dexter Stefonek is one of the most creepiest, disturbing segments. An old guy visiting his son burned for what appeared
to be no reason at all.

Circleville letters. Hardly anything out there.

Circleville letters. Hardly anything out there.

One of my friends has mentioned that the story of Circleville would make a really great movie. I told him to write a screenplay, as he has done more research on the subject than anyone else I know.

He lurks here. I know he's going to read this. Bro-- seriously. WRITE THE DAMN SCRIPT!

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The Wackers.

Sadly, it doesn't look like there's anything else on line about the Su-Ya Kim murder. I wonder if they kept actively investigating the case after her family moved back to Korea.

Sadly, it doesn't look like there's anything else on line about the Su-Ya Kim murder. I wonder if they kept actively investigating the case after her family moved back to Korea.

Doubtful. Back when she was killed, NYC was in the midst of record crime rates. All through the 80s and the first half of the 90s were the worst years for violent crime ever in NYC. Su-Ya was murdered in 1991 and that was at the peak of it. There were 2,154 murders in NYC that year and was in the middle of a five year span of over 2,000 each year from 1989-1993. Compare that to the last few years and you'd be stunned how much violent crime has gone down in NYC:

2013 - 335 murders (record low for NYC at the time)
2014 - 333 murders (current record low for NYC)
2015 - 352 murders
2016 - 335 murders

Current murder rates for the four most populous cities in the USA:

New York City - 3.91 per 100K
Los Angeles - 7.25 per 100K
Chicago - 28.01 per 100K (not a typo)
Houston - 13.15 per 100K

Violent crime has also gone down pretty much every year in NYC since 2001 and is down over 50% overall in that span. It took a tragedy like 9/11 to bring that city together, but I'll be damned if it didn't. The only silver lining to that event was transforming NYC from one of the most dangerous big cities in the USA into virtually the safest of them all. Hell, the US police force kill more than twice as many people per year than the entirety of NYC does these days.

I know a lot of this has nothing to do with Su-Ya's murder directly, but I just wanted to illustrate that when she was killed it was easy for her case to get lost in the shuffle. There were over 10,000 murders in NYC between 1989 and 1993 so her case has likely become just a few folders buried in a file cabinet somewhere.

I know a lot of this has nothing to do with Su-Ya's murder directly, but I just wanted to illustrate that when she was killed it was easy for her case to get lost in the shuffle. There were over 10,000 murders in NYC between 1989 and 1993 so her case has likely become just a few folders buried in a file cabinet somewhere.

That's what I would have figured. Sadly, I figured this case would become something of a low priority once her family returned to Korea since I don't know how often they would have been contacting the NYPD for updates.

That's what I would have figured. Sadly, I figured this case would become something of a low priority once her family returned to Korea since I don't know how often they would have been contacting the NYPD for updates.

She was found in Bed Stuy near the border of Bushwick which is a particularly rough part of Brooklyn. For as much crime as NYC had in those days, it was much more concentrated in that area than the average neighborhood of NYC. Even now that crime is at an all-time low in NYC, that particular area (especially East NY) is still incredibly crime-ridden. Sadly, I doubt anyone has looked at her file in at least a decade.

One positive thing about that segment though was Joe Jones. I really liked him. He's no doubt a life-long Brooklynite and had a certain charm about him. I visit NYC at least once a year and always enjoy conversing with people like him. He was about as true New York as you can get.