i wish they bring back the original versions of unsolved mysteries with Robert stack they only ones im use to you know

Well if you have Amazon Prime you're in luck as the first few seasons with Robert stack have been uploaded with more to come

Can't wait to see them again

Me too

Robert Stack was so much better.

Robert Stack was so much better.

I never thought that Farina was worse than Stack per se, but it was the vibe the producers were obviously attempting during the Farina re-edit that I didn't I didn't like.

Stack was the perfect host of the spooky vibe of the original though.

I never thought that Farina was worse than Stack per se, but it was the vibe the producers were obviously attempting during the Farina re-edit that I didn't I didn't like.

Stack was the perfect host of the spooky vibe of the original though.

Stack had a good voice for the show. You wanna know who else I think would be good for that role who has a spooky voice. WWE's very own The Undertaker.

The Undertaker was set to be the host of the re-boot in 2008 but due to a dispute with CM (he wanted to host the re-boot while wearing his wrestling garb but they wouldn't let him), he was passed over and Dennis Farina was eventually chosen as the new host.

The Undertaker was set to be the host of the re-boot in 2008 but due to a dispute with CM (he wanted to host the re-boot while wearing his wrestling garb but they wouldn't let him), he was passed over and Dennis Farina was eventually chosen as the new host.

It wouldn't have been any good unless he brought Paul Bearer with him. :happyface

They were considering doing the "Live From The Telecenter" thing again in the re-boot (Bearer, in fact, auditioned with Undertaker) and tried out Bearer, but due to the awkwardness and discomfort the crew and extras felt when around him, he was also passed up.

The Undertaker was set to be the host of the re-boot in 2008 but due to a dispute with CM (he wanted to host the re-boot while wearing his wrestling garb but they wouldn't let him), he was passed over and Dennis Farina was eventually chosen as the new host.

Thank God the Undertaker didn't host the show. Forgive me for saying this, but a pro wrestler would be a terrible choice as an UM host.

I can't tell if you're playing along or believe me, Kane.

I made that stuff up. It would be funny if it really happened, though.

This goes to show: never trust strangers' claims on the internet. It starts out with (possibly) buying into make-believe anecdotes, than it can turn into something more elaborate like fraud, and then the worst and most sinister of all, murder.

I can't tell if you're playing along or believe me, Kane.

I made that stuff up. It would be funny if it really happened, though.

This goes to show: never trust strangers' claims on the internet. It starts out with (possibly) buying into make-believe anecdotes, than it can turn into something more elaborate like fraud, and then the worst and most sinister of all, murder.

Next time, I better ask the person where her or she heard about such information and request sources to back it up.

Next time, I better ask the person where her or she heard about such information and request sources to back it up.

Better you found out now before making a "do you smell what Marie Hilley is cooking?" joke.

Better you found out now before making a "do you smell what Marie Hilley is cooking?" joke.

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Stack was the perfect host of the spooky vibe of the original though.

I only watched several segments of the reboot, just out of curiosity, and then was horrified over how they destroyed the entire look of the show. I was also NOT impressed with Farina's narration ability. I think my exact words were "he can't narrate to save his life."

Looking back now, I was too hard on him. I've actually heard worse narrations on various documentaries. Farina's problem was he had the impossible task of replacing perfection. And that's kind of hard to do for obvious reasons.

I only watched several segments of the reboot, just out of curiosity, and then was horrified over how they destroyed the entire look of the show.

It goes without saying that most of the show's longtime viewers were put off by the new look. It's like being a consumer of a given beverage, and then suddenly they change the flavor and it tastes nothing like the drink you know and love. When people want to see their favorite show, they truly want to see the favorite show they recognize. What they don't want to see is a revamped, watered down version of it. The powers-that-ve either don't get or don't want to get it.

Sadly, UM is not the only popular TV show to be revived as a reboot. In Search Of was another. It was rebooted in 2002, only to die a quick death. Also, Cold Case Files recently came back as a reboot, and looks nothing like the old series that was narrated by Bill Kurtis. Ten new episodes were ordered. Four of them have already aired, and the show is now on hiatus, but is scheduled to return next month and air the remaining six episodes. (My prediction is that there won't be any more new of episodes of CCF after that.)

It goes without saying that most of the show's longtime viewers were put off by the new look. It's like being a consumer of a given beverage, and then suddenly they change the flavor and it tastes nothing like the drink you know and love. When people want to see their favorite show, they truly want to see the favorite show they recognize. What they don't want to see is a revamped, watered down version of it. The powers-that-ve either don't get or don't want to get it.

Sadly, UM is not the only popular TV show to be revived as a reboot. In Search Of was another. It was rebooted in 2002, only to die a quick death. Also, Cold Case Files recently came back as a reboot, and looks nothing like the old series that was narrated by Bill Kurtis. Ten new episodes were ordered. Four of them have already aired, and the show is now on hiatus, but is scheduled to return next month and air the remaining six episodes. (My prediction is that there won't be any more new of episodes of CCF after that.)



At least Witt Cold Case Files they are doing new episodes. UM reboot was just the old episodes with a new narrator and a bunch of fast editing and graphics. A total slap in the face

At least Witt Cold Case Files they are doing new episodes. UM reboot was just the old episodes with a new narrator and a bunch of fast editing and graphics. A total slap in the face

You can say that again. As the old saying goes, "great minds think alike." What was done with the UM reboot was such a slap in the face that it deserved to flop. I'm glad that many viewers rejected the reboot. Otherwise, it would have implied that they accepted the new look and, in my view at least, they would have been no better than the people responsible for bringing about the inferior look. And if you ask me, whoever wanted the 2008 version of UM to look the way it did doesn't give a damn about production values, let alone UM.

I watched about 3 mins of the first episode of the NEW Cold Case Files and then I turned it off. Danny Glover is a HORRIBLE narrator, even worst then Dennis Farina!!!!!!! It sounds like Glover had started narrating just after running 10 miles. His voice is very breathy and annoying. Farina did a poor job of being scary on UM but at least his voice doesn't make me want to turn off the TV. A&E really destroyed a once great show, and with the increased amount of commercial breaks/time on that channel in the last two years. I am SHOCKED they couldn't bring Bill Kurtis back to narrate!!!!!!!!!

I watched about 3 mins of the first episode of the NEW Cold Case Files and then I turned it off. Danny Glover is a HORRIBLE narrator, even worst then Dennis Farina!!!!!!! It sounds like Glover had started narrating just after running 10 miles. His voice is very breathy and annoying. Farina did a poor job of being scary on UM but at least his voice doesn't make me want to turn off the TV. A&E really destroyed a once great show, and with the increased amount of commercial breaks/time on that channel in the last two years. I am SHOCKED they couldn't bring Bill Kurtis back to narrate!!!!!!!!!

I don't blame you for disliking the new Cold Case Files. I tried to give it a chance, but warming up to the reboot has been easier said than done. If they really wanted to use the new format, they should have used it for a new show and not called it "Cold Case Files." When I learned ahead of time that Bill Kurtis's company, Kurtis Productions, was not going to have any involvement in the new version, I took it as a bad sign and rightly so. In recent years, Bill Kurtis has been hosting Through The Decades and producing the American Greed. Those shows air on Decades and CNBC, respectively. My suspicion is that his current contractual obligations prevented him from working for A&E. Hence his lack of involvement in the new version of CCF.

I only watched several segments of the reboot, just out of curiosity, and then was horrified over how they destroyed the entire look of the show. I was also NOT impressed with Farina's narration ability. I think my exact words were "he can't narrate to save his life."

Looking back now, I was too hard on him. I've actually heard worse narrations on various documentaries. Farina's problem was he had the impossible task of replacing perfection. And that's kind of hard to do for obvious reasons.

I used to think the reboot was done cynically and sloppily, but now that I've been able to watch the old episodes again, but I've changed my mind a little.

It's ironic, but the lengths they went to to totally divorce UM from the 80s/90s—losing all the music, the design of the motion graphics elements, the overall feel of it—show they were trying to make it work. They were trying to create a product to sell as a standalone thing to an audience which grew up on the true crime and reality shows that UM paved the way for. They were totally misguided and chased the wrong impulse, of course, but that happens to everyone once and a while. I really don't know if CMP got how important the nostalgia factor was until the streaming launch, but I have to imagine they're not operating under any illusions anymore. UM is a product of its time. The original Stack narration/interludes helped the pacing and atmosphere. The telecenter was plausible for the time. The Farina reboot never had a phone number on it, so why would there be a telecenter? For being the only significant callback to the original series, it was poorly conceived, serving neither to please their hypothetical new audience or their existing one. Gary Malkin's legendary, masterful incidental score does indeed sound old, but the replacement was ridiculous. Was the show supposed to be spooky and intriguing or frantic and matter-of-fact? It was totally confused. Everyone was overusing graphical elements back then, so it's excusable I suppose. But the biggest mistake was the way the recutting was executed. The re-enactments and interviews were filmed to suit the idea of the show in the environment it was created in, and recutting them in many cases either totally destroyed the emotional impact of the story, confused the narrative to make it feel more "factual" to a modern reality show/CSI audience, or both.

I can think of a few examples off the top of my head, but particularly the Dennis DePue segment. The original one scarred me for life, and still hits my jaded heart hard. It's incredibly well done, and not just for the time. The recut had no emotional impact. The original NLO/Dave Bocks segment is the stuff of a good thriller that makes you feel like you're in on the truth and you're finding it out as it's happening. The recut is straightforward procedural and almost boring. A lot of the same applies to Circleville/Paul Freshour. Then you've got ones like Arson/Omar: the entire thing is a product of the late 80s/early 90s media culture. It couldn't be taken seriously in 2009, and because "this is a new show", there's no way to play it up in that way. It didn't work. I understand wanting to shed nostalgia because you think it's holding you back from a new audience, and I know there was a ton of work done on the remake. But I hope CMP is recognizing that they actually made something wonderful and a good many of us still appreciate it and their work.

After all that, I don't necessarily think a reboot or remake would necessarily have to be bad. It has to be honest and respect its viewers, though. For a lot of what made UM UM, television culture in America has changed. You can't bring back the sparse visual style, much of the feel of the re-enactments, or do a wholesale ripoff of Stack's delivery. But I think the concept still works, and the spirit's there. Check out ID's "I, Witness". I've seen a few episodes, and it's well done. It's the closest a new series has gotten, IMO.

Danny Glover is a HORRIBLE narrator, even worst then Dennis Farina!!!!!!! It sounds like Glover had started narrating just after running 10 miles. His voice is very breathy and annoying.

It's not his fault. He's just getting too old for this ****...

It's not his fault. He's just getting too old for this ****...

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