View Full Version : cases on UM that were connected?


zack007attack
02-08-2017, 07:47 PM
This is one topic that doesn't seem to have been covered on this forum yet but still offers an interesting perspective. What cases shown on UM do you think might have been somehow correlated or connected to each other or even with other non-UM cases? Here's some of mine:

-Dennis Walker and Steven Cox: they were both dealing with stolen baseball memorabilia and very well could have been in business together.
-Dale Eaton: aside from Lisa Kimmel, he is suspected of other murders as well. Based on his profile and modus operandi, he bore striking similarities to other serial killers (i.e. David Parker Ray).
-Norman Ladner and Don Henry/Kevin Ives: based on the hard evidence, I'd say they were definitely murdered. I wouldn't go far enough to say that the police were covering something up in Ladner's case, but it could be a mere matter of incompetence. Both these cases definitely had to involve witnessing something they shouldn't have which had to be drug drops or other illicit activities. They also occured in reasonably close proximity of each other (Arkansas/Mississippi).

Any others?

Hot Jock
02-08-2017, 08:01 PM
Charles Morgan/Danny Casalaro/Don Devereux

Veronica Jefferson/Rachael Raver & Warren Fulton

Oops. I didn't read the OP as clearly as I thought. The two I posted are proven to have been connected and not what I "think" might be a connection. I'll have to come back after thinking about it on that.

LooksLikeCRicci
02-08-2017, 08:53 PM
Charles Morgan/Danny Casalaro/Don Devereux

Veronica Jefferson/Rachael Raver & Warren Fulton

Oops. I didn't read the OP as clearly as I thought. The two I posted are proven to have been connected and not what I "think" might be a connection. I'll have to come back after thinking about it on that.

Okay, Hot Jock, you need to go home. You're drunk. :crazy: :crazy:

Todd Mueller
02-08-2017, 10:24 PM
The two priest murders (Fr. Renaldo and Fr. Rivera) and the unsolved suicide of "William Toomey". There is info on another thread on here, but there are some very interesting threads there.

LakeForestPI
02-08-2017, 10:50 PM
I've always felt that Norman Ladner was murdered for something he witnessed while out hunting in the woods. The Dixie Mafia was doing large scale drug running around that part of the south during that time period. And as history showed, more than a few local law enforcement were caught up in that and sent to prison. The authorities in this case were all to eager to rule his death a suicide. Contrary to all evidence. Eerily similar to Henry and Ives

Steve W.
02-09-2017, 04:09 AM
I don't think the priest murders (Rivera and Kerrigan) are connected. Rivera wasn't specifically targeted. His killer (or killers) just wanted to kill a priest from that church, any priest.

Kerrigan's (in-all-likelihood) murder was more personal. The perp(s) in his case probably knew about Kerrigan's previous sexual assaults on choir boys (went to "priest rehab" at least once, in 1983, and was transferred to 13 different churches between 1964 to when he went missing in 1984).

Jediknight1823
02-09-2017, 04:24 AM
I don't think the priest murders (Rivera and Kerrigan) are connected. Rivera wasn't specifically targeted. His killer (or killers) just wanted to kill a priest from that church, any priest.

Kerrigan's (in-all-likelihood) murder was more personal. The perp(s) in his case probably knew about Kerrigan's previous sexual assaults on choir boys (went to "priest rehab" at least once, in 1983, and was transferred to 13 different churches between 1964 to when he went missing in 1984).

Yeah, with everything that's came out, it looks like Kerrigan's in all likelihood murder was a revenge/vigilante style killing.

dynoguy88
02-09-2017, 09:12 AM
Kerrigan's (in-all-likelihood) murder was more personal. The perp(s) in his case probably knew about Kerrigan's previous sexual assaults on choir boys (went to "priest rehab" at least once, in 1983, and was transferred to 13 different churches between 1964 to when he went missing in 1984).

My feeling is it was a friend or a family member of one of the many children who Father Kerrigan abused. This person probably wasn't thrilled over the fact that the only punishment Kerrigan kept getting was transfers to other churches and access to a whole new slew of children for him to abuse.

LooksLikeCRicci
02-09-2017, 01:28 PM
My feeling is it was a friend or a family member of one of the many children who Father Kerrigan abused. This person probably wasn't thrilled over the fact that the only punishment Kerrigan kept getting was transfers to other churches and access to a whole new slew of children for him to abuse.

Yes to all of this.

As Robin mentioned in his podcasts about Fathers Riviera and Kerrigan, this happened in my neck of the woods. I have been *very* tempted to do a little digging of my own on this matter and actually drive out to Ronan/Plains to see if anyone is willing to talk. My guess is that they will not be talking anytime soon, but I am convinced that the killer of Father Kerrigan is someone in the Plains community.

dynoguy88
02-09-2017, 03:09 PM
Yes to all of this.

As Robin mentioned in his podcasts about Fathers Riviera and Kerrigan, this happened in my neck of the woods. I have been *very* tempted to do a little digging of my own on this matter and actually drive out to Ronan/Plains to see if anyone is willing to talk. My guess is that they will not be talking anytime soon, but I am convinced that the killer of Father Kerrigan is someone in the Plains community.

Wasn't Father Kerrigan in Ronan a total of two days when he disappeared? I'm not sure many people in that area would have any information to give to you and I'd hate for you to drive there for nothing.

I think whomever killed him followed him to Ronan and got rid of him once and for all. And if that's true, it wouldn't be a local resident. Unless the churches he was at prior were not that far from Ronan.

LakeForestPI
02-09-2017, 03:18 PM
The people of Ronan were very lucky the good father was only in town for 2 days. It's criminal on the part of the church that he was able to do what he did for so long. I'm an Irish Catholic and I have nothing to do with the church since the abuse scandal came into clear focus. Many other priests are deserving of the fate that met Kerrigan. But that is just my own personal opinion

LooksLikeCRicci
02-09-2017, 03:46 PM
Wasn't Father Kerrigan in Ronan a total of two days when he disappeared? I'm not sure many people in that area would have any information to give to you and I'd hate for you to drive there for nothing.

I think whomever killed him followed him to Ronan and got rid of him once and for all. And if that's true, it wouldn't be a local resident. Unless the churches he was at prior were not that far from Ronan.

Right. Which is why I believe his killer is in Plains, MT. If I remember correctly, his last assignment before being sent to the "special facility" was in Plains. He then went to Ronan, where he lasted for two days before he disappeared.

I should have been more clear. Plains and Ronan are not next door to each other. Off the top of my head, I'd guess they're about 50 miles apart. 50 miles is nothing in Montana. I consider that a short drive, to be quite honest. :)

Whatever happened in Plains was egregious enough for the church to actually "do something," although it wasn't much at all, which was the trigger for his killing, in my opinion. I think the folks of Plains know, but no one's talking.