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JO Sweet Heart
11-04-2016, 02:18 PM
Did anyone see the CMA awards show this past Wednesday night? To me the following were the low points of the show.

Dixie Chicks
Carrie Underwood
Kasey Musgraves
Kelsi Ballerini
Maren Morris

Miranda Lambert was the only Female Artist of the Year award nominee that I care for, so I wish that she had won that award. Also to me, Cole Swindell should've gotten the Best New Artist of the Year award if it couldn't go to Old Dominion or Brothers Osborne because Cole has more songs on the radio than the other nominees. Maren winning with only two songs on the radio right now in my opinion is bull crap and so is Little Big Town getting the Group of of the Year award again when they have not had a big song in over a year now. The competition for that award to me was between, Rascal Flatts, Old Dominion, and the Zac Brown Band who are overlooked every year.

Why was Beyonce there when she isn't even a country act? Her appearance was with the Dixie Chicks. If her being there was the only way that their appearance was going to happen, that right there should say everything that we need to know about how they look at country music. To me, if they can't show any respect, they shouldn't expect any in return and I think that they have proven well over the years that they do not have any when they have done nothing but trash one country act after another: Toby Keith, Reba McEntire, Trace Adkins, Joe Nichols, and Jason Aldean.

God bless you and those who sing country music and respect the music always!!! :) :) :)

Holly

tlc38tlc38
11-04-2016, 05:08 PM
I thought it was a great show honoring 50 years of history. I was raised on country music and have a deep respect for it.

My favorite performances were Garth Brooks & Trisha Yearwood, Eric Church, Miranda Lambert, and Tim McGraw.

Beyoncé should've never been there and if she just had to be there she could've at least wore something decent. Just trashy.

I didn't mind seeing the Dixie Chicks. I actually like their music but don't stand behind their politics.

Awesome to see Randy Travis!

Dolly! I love Dolly Parton...now, she's a true class act!

HuntingtonM15
11-05-2016, 02:01 AM
I couldn't possibly disagree more. Miranda has won the award enough times to date, and Carrie is far and away the better singer. Since the award is for Female "Vocalist" Carrie is more than deserving.

As for the Dixie Chicks, they owe the country music industry absolutely nothing. The industry acts like it cares about America so much, but it couldn't show more hypocrisy if they tried. Um, hello, freedom of speech, anyone? It turned its back on one of the most talented acts in the history of country music for a harmless comment. Not to mention the Chicks opened the door for country radio to freely bash our current President without any repercussion. So yeah, they owe the industry nothing at all.

As for Beyoncé, I'm glad the Chicks got the chance to perform with her. They played that song all summer long on their highly successful tour, and according to Natalie, her album was the backstage soundtrack to the tour. Who cares if she's not country? She has the ability to bring more interest to the genre. It makes me think of Martina's last tour where she talked about how great the old days used to be when it was pretty much genre free. Patsy Cline could be played on pop radio, Ray Charles could be on a country station, etc. Now everything has to be so segregated and if it's not, people flip out. That's why I've pretty much had my fill of commercial radio in general.

On a separate note, I was so happy for Lori McKenna's win. She is one of the most talented singer/songwriters in the history of the music industry and finally deserves this recognition.

Zoneboy
11-05-2016, 02:14 AM
My favorite performances were Garth Brooks & Trisha Yearwood, Eric Church, Miranda Lambert, and Tim McGraw.

If you like Eric Church, check-out my cousin's website. :)

http://ericchurchmusic.com

JO Sweet Heart
11-05-2016, 08:57 AM
As for the Dixie Chicks, they owe the country music industry absolutely nothing. The industry acts like it cares about America so much, but it couldn't show more hypocrisy if they tried. Um, hello, freedom of speech, anyone? It turned its back on one of the most talented acts in the history of country music for a harmless comment. Not to mention the Chicks opened the door for country radio to freely bash our current President without any repercussion. So yeah, they owe the industry nothing at all.
We were and we still are very much aware of the fact that the Dixie Chicks have the freedom to speak their minds. What they along with their fans do not seem to get is that such a freedom is not a one way street, that the rest of us in the U.S. have the freedom to speak our minds too and if the Chicks weren't going to hesitate to run their mouths, why should the rest of us? Therefore, I don't believe that the Dixie Chicks are owed anything either especially if all that they are going to do is trash those who never did anything to deserve it. What did Toby Keith, Reba McEntire, Trace Adkins, Joe Nichols, and Jason Aldean ever do to the Dixie Chicks? Anything that was done by them was done in retaliation and so if the Dixie Chicks couldn't take what was thrown back at them, they shouldn't have dished it out in the first place.

As for Beyoncé, I'm glad the Chicks got the chance to perform with her. They played that song all summer long on their highly successful tour, and according to Natalie, her album was the backstage soundtrack to the tour. Who cares if she's not country? She has the ability to bring more interest to the genre. It makes me think of Martina's last tour where she talked about how great the old days used to be when it was pretty much genre free. Patsy Cline could be played on pop radio, Ray Charles could be on a country station, etc. Now everything has to be so segregated and if it's not, people flip out. That's why I've pretty much had my fill of commercial radio in general.
The show was supposed to be about country music. Beyonce and the rest of the non country acts have shows like the VMA's, the BET awards, the Soul Train production, and then there are shows like the Grammy awards and the American Music Awards where country music is lucky if it even gets any time on them shows. If a person likes more than one form of music, great, but not everyone is going to appreciate it when the different forms are put together. If someone gave you a bowl of cereal that had hot sauce in it, would you eat it?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

HuntingtonM15
11-05-2016, 12:52 PM
We were and we still are very much aware of the fact that the Dixie Chicks have the freedom to speak their minds. What they along with their fans do not seem to get is that such a freedom is not a one way street, that the rest of us in the U.S. have the freedom to speak our minds too and if the Chicks weren't going to hesitate to run their mouths, why should the rest of us? Therefore, I don't believe that the Dixie Chicks are owed anything either especially if all that they are going to do is trash those who never did anything to deserve it. What did Toby Keith, Reba McEntire, Trace Adkins, Joe Nichols, and Jason Aldean ever do to the Dixie Chicks? Anything that was done by them was done in retaliation and so if the Dixie Chicks couldn't take what was thrown back at them, they shouldn't have dished it out in the first place.


The show was supposed to be about country music. Beyonce and the rest of the non country acts have shows like the VMA's, the BET awards, the Soul Train production, and then there are shows like the Grammy awards and the American Music Awards where country music is lucky if it even gets any time on them shows. If a person likes more than one form of music, great, but not everyone is going to appreciate it when the different forms are put together. If someone gave you a bowl of cereal that had hot sauce in it, would you eat it?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

You're exactly right. If the industry wants to ban them for a harmless comment, that is completely their right. I can guarantee the same thing would not have happened if it was a male artist. But I draw the line at these insane people who sent them death threats. As for the other artists they said things about, it was a two way street with Toby Keith. I don't know that they said about Joe Nichols or Jason Aldean but I have a feeling I'd agree about Jason since he's contributed to the destruction of the genre with the horrific bro country. I don't know what they said about Reba other than Martie saying they don't want the type of fans who randomly shuffle their music in disc changers with artists like Reba. Which I don't personally take as an attack against Reba, just casual fans who don't feel strongly one way or another about their music.

UMFaninMD
11-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Bro-country is one of the worst trends in music. It's pretty much pop music with a twang, with the same lyrics sung by male singers who all sound alike. My mom had on our local country station the other day and after about 5 bro-country songs, they played Trisha Yearwood, and I thought now that's when modern country was actually tolerable and listenable!

tlc38tlc38
11-05-2016, 05:10 PM
Bro-country is one of the worst trends in music. It's pretty much pop music with a twang, with the same lyrics sung by male singers who all sound alike. My mom had on our local country station the other day and after about 5 bro-country songs, they played Trisha Yearwood, and I thought now that's when modern country was actually tolerable and listenable!
I agree. I'm not a fan of bro country. I like the classics and mostly the female country singers but I do like some of the "newer" males like Eric Church, Chris Stapleton, & Brad Paisley.

Anna Karenina
11-05-2016, 06:39 PM
Crystal Gayle needs a longer tribute than Trisha Yearwood doing a so so version of "Don't it Make My Brown Eyes Blue". (No offense to Miss Yearwood, she just didn't sound that great on that song.)

She was a HUGE star in the seventies and eighties but doesn't get the respect today she deserves. I am not sure why she is consistently overlooked. :confused:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BFJNrjcjOkQ/Uuhou8GNv7I/AAAAAAAAJoQ/ShjNjt4CmNo/s1600/crystal.jpg

Anna Karenina
11-05-2016, 08:04 PM
Coal Miner's Daughter is starting on TMC right now! :)

Edward216
11-05-2016, 10:56 PM
No I was busy watching the Chicago Cubs win the World Series. Country music sadly is a joke nowadays and I'm glad I missed it. With them allowing the Dixie Chickens, um I mean Chicks to infest the show I don't think I'll be watching the CMA awards ever again.

Ed.

JO Sweet Heart
11-05-2016, 11:45 PM
^^^ Amen to that! I can't count the number of acts who deserved that performance slot more than they did there are so many to name.

You're exactly right. If the industry wants to ban them for a harmless comment, that is completely their right. I can guarantee the same thing would not have happened if it was a male artist. But I draw the line at these insane people who sent them death threats. As for the other artists they said things about, it was a two way street with Toby Keith. I don't know that they said about Joe Nichols or Jason Aldean but I have a feeling I'd agree about Jason since he's contributed to the destruction of the genre with the horrific bro country. I don't know what they said about Reba other than Martie saying they don't want the type of fans who randomly shuffle their music in disc changers with artists like Reba. Which I don't personally take as an attack against Reba, just casual fans who don't feel strongly one way or another about their music.
What they said about former president Bush may have been a harmless comment in the grand scheme, but because them girls decided to trash people in country music next, why should anyone in country music give them any respect in return, if the Dixie Chicks themselves have no desire to show any? To me, country music owes them absolutely nothing when the Chicks have made it as clear as glass that they learned absolutely nothing from the response that they got in return after they gave their two cents about former president Bush. If they didn't want everyone else's two pennies in their faces, they should have kept their own money in their pockets.

Crystal Gayle needs a longer tribute than Trisha Yearwood doing a so so version of "Don't it Make My Brown Eyes Blue". (No offense to Miss Yearwood, she just didn't sound that great on that song.)

She was a HUGE star in the seventies and eighties but doesn't get the respect today she deserves. I am not sure why she is consistently overlooked. :confused:
Since she was there, in my opinion, she should have been up there singing the song herself if she still has a voice.

God bless you three and Crystal always!!!

Holly

HuntingtonM15
11-06-2016, 12:34 AM
What they said about former president Bush may have been a harmless comment in the grand scheme, but because them girls decided to trash people in country music next, why should anyone in country music give them any respect in return, if the Dixie Chicks themselves have no desire to show any? To me, country music owes them absolutely nothing when the Chicks have made it as clear as glass that they learned absolutely nothing from the response that they got in return after they gave their two cents about former president Bush. If they didn't want everyone else's two pennies in their faces, they should have kept their own money in their pockets.


...I already said the industry doesn't owe them anything, but I do believe there are some regrets from completely shutting them out the way they did. The Chicks learned a lot from "the incident." They learned who their real fans are: the fans who were always there for them! They didn't exactly lose any of their dedicated fans. Right after "the incident" they went on a highly successful arena tour. Then after going ten years without new music and only a total of four commercial albums to their name, they went on another very successful tour, with multiple dates selling out. Not many artists can pull that off, and clearly the CMAs took note of that to invite them to perform. Not to mention several female country artists made it known that they attended the Chicks' 2016 tour. So yes, they definitely learned that they don't have to "shut up and sing" to keep their audience.

JO Sweet Heart
11-06-2016, 09:25 PM
^^^ If I remember right a lot of their scheduled tour dates that took place after the incident were cancelled because not enough people wanted to see them. How can that be labeled a successful tour?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. I already said that the industry doesn't owe them anything either, so I am guessing that the only reason why they were even thought of in the first place is because at the end of the day, their CMA award winning history can't be re-written. The future however is another story and in my opinion there is no place in country music for people like the Dixie Chicks if all that they are going to do is trash those who have made country music the awesome music that it is.

HuntingtonM15
11-06-2016, 09:55 PM
^^^ If I remember right a lot of their scheduled tour dates that took place after the incident were cancelled because not enough people wanted to see them. How can that be labeled a successful tour?


The "Top of the World" Tour grossed $60.5 million, and at the time, was the most successful country tour of all-time.

JO Sweet Heart
11-06-2016, 10:09 PM
^^^ You may think of it as a country tour, but that doesn't mean that everyone else will. I don't.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Thank the Lord that I only wasted about $7.00 on them girls.

HuntingtonM15
11-06-2016, 10:37 PM
^^^ You may think of it as a country tour, but that doesn't mean that everyone else will. I don't.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Thank the Lord that I only wasted about $7.00 on them girls.


Huh? I don't even see how that can be debated. It was 2003. They were pure country. They had not even come close to adding rock elements to their music yet. You can dislike them all you want, but to deny that it was a country tour really makes no sense. But regardless, country or not...$60.5 million is a massive success.

Edward216
11-07-2016, 02:27 AM
HuntingtonM15, what they said about President Bush was a "harmless comment"?! You can't be serious right? We'll just have to 100 percent disagree on that whole issue, with what they did and said the Dixie Chicks deserved all of the hate and the backlash they got. But I'll admit by that point I was getting tired of them, I knew by then Natalie Maines tended to shoot off her mouth and I thought they dressed trashy and I really didn't like that Goodbye Earl song. But the way they outrageously disrespected President George W. Bush just pushed it over the edge for me. As far as I'm concerned the country music world is 100% better off without them and we've all moved and from them and there's no going back. You know what they say about people burning bridges. And the kind of people that are fans of the Dixie Chicks I don't want to be friends with anyways. If you think it's fine to totally trash a good American president like that then there's something wrong with you.

Ed. ETA: When I say "something wrong with you" I mean that as people in general and not any person specifically. But I suppose it could be taken that way too if you want.

Edward216
11-07-2016, 02:37 AM
But it's cool to see you're a Martina McBride fan too.

Ed.

JO Sweet Heart
11-07-2016, 06:28 AM
Huh? I don't even see how that can be debated. It was 2003. They were pure country. They had not even come close to adding rock elements to their music yet. You can dislike them all you want, but to deny that it was a country tour really makes no sense. But regardless, country or not...$60.5 million is a massive success.
If all that they are going to do is trash country from now on, then I don't consider them to be country from now on.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

HuntingtonM15
11-07-2016, 10:58 AM
HuntingtonM15, what they said about President Bush was a "harmless comment"?! You can't be serious right? We'll just have to 100 percent disagree on that whole issue, with what they did and said the Dixie Chicks deserved all of the hate and the backlash they got. But I'll admit by that point I was getting tired of them, I knew by then Natalie Maines tended to shoot off her mouth and I thought they dressed trashy and I really didn't like that Goodbye Earl song. But the way they outrageously disrespected President George W. Bush just pushed it over the edge for me. As far as I'm concerned the country music world is 100% better off without them and we've all moved and from them and there's no going back. You know what they say about people burning bridges. And the kind of people that are fans of the Dixie Chicks I don't want to be friends with anyways. If you think it's fine to totally trash a good American president like that then there's something wrong with you.

Ed. ETA: When I say "something wrong with you" I mean that as people in general and not any person specifically. But I suppose it could be taken that way too if you want.

Absolutely 100% harmless. It was a war that took the lives of way too many to think about and turned up exactly nothing. If that's a "good American President" to you, and if you think the ladies deserved having their lives threatened and put in jeopardy, then I'm perfectly content with being disliked for being a fan of the Chicks.

I didn't intend to make this thread political. I unfortunately got caught up in that in these boards a bit this election season, and have been purposely staying out of it, so this is my last post in this thread.