I just saw Magic Mike and it made me realize I like handsome men. However most of these guys are too young or don't want me for many reasons (they're gay, have relationships etc). Let's not forget there are more fatties than there are these men. I want a handsome man but I am a realist. So I think before I get married (whether I have a man or single)I want to go to a male revue. I want to pay a man to climb over me.

I want to pay a man to climb over me.
I don't think that would be too difficult to make happen, would it?

Well I want a handsome man to do so. I could find men willing to do so and men willing to have sex with me but they are uggo fatties.

Well I want a handsome man to do so. I could find men willing to do so and men willing to have sex with me but they are uggo fatties.
If you're paying, you can probably find something closer to what you're looking for. I can't imagine a former model such as yourself as you say are would have a hard time finding a man you consider attractive to "climb over" you, especially if you're willing to pay to make it happen.

Oh at a strip club I would have no problem. Strangely on dating sites all I attracted were ugly and fat men. It was gross. In real life I meet okay guys but none are handsome. The guy I am strangely attracted to is short, chubby and not cute.

Oh at a strip club I would have no problem. Strangely on dating sites all I attracted were ugly and fat men. It was gross. In real life I meet okay guys but none are handsome. The guy I am strangely attracted to is short, chubby and not cute.
I guess I misunderstood your post then. It seems from what you're saying is you want a very handsome man to fall in love with you. Very different from paying one to climb over you.

Well I'd like to marry a handsome man but doubt that will happen. However I would definitely go to a strip club to see a hot man. I think I would go on a bachelorette party and pay them to dance for me.

Well I'd like to marry a handsome man but doubt that will happen. However I would definitely go to a strip club to see a hot man. I think I would go on a bachelorette party and pay them to dance for me.
Okay, fine. But what's keeping you from going before you're engaged? I don't get that.

I might go but don't have women friends who would go. Maybe my divorced friend would. The closest male club is about 2 hours away. ETA: I found one closer but think it might be for gay men. Maybe they let in women.

If you aren't currently committed to anyone then whatever you do can't be considering cheating.

As for whether or not it is... I say it's about whatever you and your partner agree on and are comfortable with.

I'm not too familiar w/ male-oriented strip clubs, but be prepared to go through a couple of hundred dollars at least. There's cover charge, overpriced drinks, tips, dances and VIP if preferred. I once spent over $600.00 one night.

If you aren't currently committed to anyone then whatever you do can't be considering cheating.

As for whether or not it is... I say it's about whatever you and your partner agree on and are comfortable with.

I'm not too familiar w/ male-oriented strip clubs, but be prepared to go through a couple of hundred dollars at least. There's cover charge, overpriced drinks, tips, dances and VIP if preferred. I once spent over $600.00 one night.


Holy cow!!! :eek: 600 dollars would get me new living room furniture! ;) :D

Strangely on dating sites all I attracted were ugly and fat men. It was gross. In real life I meet okay guys but none are handsome.

Do you ever wonder what they say about you?

I just saw Magic Mike and it made me realize I like handsome men. However most of these guys are too young or don't want me for many reasons (they're gay, have relationships etc). Let's not forget there are more fatties than there are these men. I want a handsome man but I am a realist. So I think before I get married (whether I have a man or single)I want to go to a male revue. I want to pay a man to climb over me.

Magic Mike is only a movie. I've been to a few male clubs and bachelorette parties back in the day in and around DC. While most of the guys have great bodies, the faces aren't that great. When women go to clubs or see strippers, it's mostly just drunken giggling and a little embarrassment. It's not a great erotic experience. I'm sure the selection of performers is better in Vegas or L.A, just like it is for female strippers.

The only contribution I'm willing to make here is don't bother with the Magic Mike sequel. Not that good.

The only contribution I'm willing to make here is don't bother with the Magic Mike sequel. Not that good.


I only want to go if Opus & JamesG are the male strippers! :lol: :D

Just kidding!:lol: I saw Magic Mike in the theatre a few years ago when it first came out! After the movie my friend and I were saying how Chip N Dales went out of business and we didn't even know of any male strip joints around anymore?:confused: And we live in a big city! I guess now it's just male dancers for women's private parties more ! Or male strippers catering to gay men and gay bars! I think it would be fun to be with the girls, drinking ,whooping it up at a bachelorette party and in comes the hot guys! :D

But to me it's not as much fun having a guy on top of me if he's doing it for money! I want a man on me cause I'm turning him on and he thinks I'm hot and I'm not paying him. ;) Like in my younger days. Good looking hot guys were a dime a dozen, didn't need paid dancers to have a good looking guy want to climb on me! So being older, weight gain, married, basically not being hot as I used to be, it would lose something and not be as exciting Knowing the hot young guy was only with me cause he was getting paid! :confused:

That IMO is how a lot of women must feel, and that's why male strip clubs for women aren't popular like female strip clubs! Being realistic, I have the old goat at home and if I didn't have him anymore, I'd have to settle for another old goat, maybe a little chubby, receding hairline, grey hair, wrinkled, flabbier muscles, not as exciting as a young hot guy but it is what it is! .But at least they would want me and I wouldn't have to pay to have them on me! ;)

And James saying that a strip club can cost as much as 600 dollars, I couldn't spend that kind of money! :eek:

If you aren't currently committed to anyone then whatever you do can't be considering cheating.

As for whether or not it is... I say it's about whatever you and your partner agree on and are comfortable with.

I'm not too familiar w/ male-oriented strip clubs, but be prepared to go through a couple of hundred dollars at least. There's cover charge, overpriced drinks, tips, dances and VIP if preferred. I once spent over $600.00 one night.

Oh I don't mean if I go now it would be cheating, I was thinking more along the lines of for my bachelorette party if I was getting married.

Who cares about gray hair? It doesn't automatically equal old, as guys like Steve Martin started going gray in their 20's. I started going gray in my early 30's.

Do you ever wonder what they say about you?

Honestly no. They were probably calling me a you know what because I rejected them. I'm not that superficial but I have standards and a guy who weighs 400 pounds or has a scarred face and a big nose doesn't do anything for me.

Magic Mike is only a movie. I've been to a few male clubs and bachelorette parties back in the day in and around DC. While most of the guys have great bodies, the faces aren't that great. When women go to clubs or see strippers, it's mostly just drunken giggling and a little embarrassment. It's not a great erotic experience. I'm sure the selection of performers is better in Vegas or L.A, just like it is for female strippers.

Yeah I suspect that. I did know a few male strippers and most were gay or slept around. A few did it for college but they were in only a few years.

Oh I don't mean if I go now it would be cheating, I was thinking more along the lines of for my bachelorette party if I was getting married.

Just be up front with your spouse-to-be before you're married. If they're not okay with it, then it's probably not a good idea.

I only want to go if Opus & JamesG are the male strippers! :lol: :D

Just kidding!:lol: I saw Magic Mike in the theatre a few years ago when it first came out! After the movie my friend and I were saying how Chip N Dales went out of business and we didn't even know of any male strip joints around anymore?:confused: And we live in a big city! I guess now it's just male dancers for women's private parties more ! Or male strippers catering to gay men and gay bars! I think it would be fun to be with the girls, drinking ,whooping it up at a bachelorette party and in comes the hot guys! :D

But to me it's not as much fun having a guy on top of me if he's doing it for money! I want a man on me cause I'm turning him on and he thinks I'm hot and I'm not paying him. ;) Like in my younger days. Good looking hot guys were a dime a dozen, didn't need paid dancers to have a good looking guy want to climb on me! So being older, weight gain, married, basically not being hot as I used to be, it would lose something and not be as exciting Knowing the hot young guy was only with me cause he was getting paid! :confused:

That IMO is how a lot of women must feel, and that's why male strip clubs for women aren't popular like female strip clubs! Being realistic, I have the old goat at home and if I didn't have him anymore, I'd have to settle for another old goat, maybe a little chubby, receding hairline, grey hair, wrinkled, flabbier muscles, not as exciting as a young hot guy but it is what it is! .But at least they would want me and I wouldn't have to pay to have them on me! ;)

And James saying that a strip club can cost as much as 600 dollars, I couldn't spend that kind of money! :eek:


I have a guy I'm interested in and he's no male stripper or model. He's chubby, short and not that cute but he is to me. However we're just friends and no idea if it will be more. I know when I did online the men contacting me were just so gross. I'm not talking average but way below. I think because of that I want to have a fantasy with a hot young guy. Knowing he's with me for the money is kind of hot. I don't mean sex, but dancing and giving me attention. I think it's partly because I realize I'm getting old and it's kind of hard.

Just be up front with your spouse-to-be before you're married. If they're not okay with it, then it's probably not a good idea.

If I married the one guy he wouldn't be okay because he's very conservative sexually. Another guy might be okay with it but then he may go to a female strip club and I would have issues with it unless I knew it was a clean club.

Who cares about gray hair? It doesn't automatically equal old, as guys like Steve Martin started going gray in their 20's. I started going gray in my early 30's.


Oh no!!! I was
just giving an example of what happens when a man ages! I like grey(or white) hair on a man! :)

The guy I like is going grey and strangely it doesn't bother me. He's not someone I would have looked at years ago which is why my attraction to him is odd. He's not my usual type.

Honestly no. They were probably calling me a you know what because I rejected them. I'm not that superficial but I have standards and a guy who weighs 400 pounds or has a scarred face and a big nose doesn't do anything for me.


Wow. I'm sure you are putting in your ad your preferences regarding looks? Like specifying that you want a man that isn't overweight and is in good physical shape right? I wonder why the heavy guys are answering? , they know they will only get turned down! (Like applying for a secretarial job, that requires typing at 70WPM and a person answers that can only type 30) ! :crazy: There isn't much you can do about nose size, I mean it would be rude to say you don't want a man with a big nose I guess! :D But body type, hair and eye color preference, height, race are common/reasonable things people can state preferences for in an ad right?

Wow. See I've never in my life placed or answered a dating ad!!!! :confused:

The guy I like is going grey and strangely it doesn't bother me. He's not someone I would have looked at years ago which is why my attraction to him is odd. He's not my usual type.


My husband is ALL grey now!!! :)

Wow. I'm sure you are putting in your ad your preferences regarding looks? Like specifying that you want a man that isn't overweight and is in good physical shape right? I wonder why the heavy guys are answering? , they know they will only get turned down! (Like applying for a secretarial job, that requires typing at 70WPM and a person answers that can only type 30) ! :crazy: There isn't much you can do about nose size, I mean it would be rude to say you don't want a man with a big nose I guess! :D But body type, hair and eye color preference, height, race are common/reasonable things people can state preferences for in an ad right?

Wow. See I've never in my life placed or answered a dating ad!!!! :confused:

I guess the nose would depend on other things so a guy with a big nose and a big face would be different. Yeah my profile said I wanted an active guy around my age (up to 10 years either way) without kids (I am childless) and I mostly got obese guys who listed as an activity sitting around (and I'm talking severely obese), guys with kids and much older guys. It was strange because I would be specific and they either responded or were rude.

I guess the nose would depend on other things so a guy with a big nose and a big face would be different. Yeah my profile said I wanted an active guy around my age (up to 10 years either way) without kids (I am childless) and I mostly got obese guys who listed as an activity sitting around (and I'm talking severely obese), guys with kids and much older guys. It was strange because I would be specific and they either responded or were rude.

A recently single friend of mine is going through something similar at Match.com. She specified in her ad that she wanted someone within a 25 mile radius, and she's got guys messaging her from the other end of the country! Seriously? She's not interested in long distance and she specified that in her profile. She specified athletic (which she is) so she hasn't had replies from people who were out of shape like you are getting. Can you go back and adjust your profile? If you are active, perhaps adding things like "like to bike", "need jogging partner", or "ISO fellow gym rat" might make some of these guys realize that you're not compatible.

Who cares about gray hair? It doesn't automatically equal old, as guys like Steve Martin started going gray in their 20's. I started going gray in my early 30's.

Your hair started graying in your early 30's? That's too young, but the graying process starts at different times with different people.

My hair will probably start to gray eventually, I'm 54 now and no gray hair yet.

Your hair started graying in your early 30's? That's too young, but the graying process starts at different times with different people.

My hair will probably start to gray eventually, I'm 54 now and no gray hair yet.
My Dad's hair didn't start graying until his early 60s.

My husband is ALL grey now!!! :)

You dig gray guys, don't you? lol :) :)

Oh no!!! I was
just giving an example of what happens when a man ages! I like grey(or white) hair on a man! :)

Some think gray is a sign of being old, but there all lots of us who have been gray or going gray since our 30's, 20's and some even younger.:)

Now gray chest hairs, that's a different story haha

I guess the nose would depend on other things so a guy with a big nose and a big face would be different. Yeah my profile said I wanted an active guy around my age (up to 10 years either way) without kids (I am childless) and I mostly got obese guys who listed as an activity sitting around (and I'm talking severely obese), guys with kids and much older guys. It was strange because I would be specific and they either responded or were rude.


Did they look like the online troll from South Park? :lol:

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w594/JamesGrec3/large_rsz_south-park-s10e08c05-the-slaughter-16x9_zpsi5canrfj.jpg

Did they look like the online troll from South Park? :lol:

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w594/JamesGrec3/large_rsz_south-park-s10e08c05-the-slaughter-16x9_zpsi5canrfj.jpg


:lol: Or like him! :D


http://toonclips.com/600/cartoon-fat-computer-potato-guy-by-ron-leishman-9604.jpg

A recently single friend of mine is going through something similar at Match.com. She specified in her ad that she wanted someone within a 25 mile radius, and she's got guys messaging her from the other end of the country! Seriously? She's not interested in long distance and she specified that in her profile. She specified athletic (which she is) so she hasn't had replies from people who were out of shape like you are getting. Can you go back and adjust your profile? If you are active, perhaps adding things like "like to bike", "need jogging partner", or "ISO fellow gym rat" might make some of these guys realize that you're not compatible.

I don't do online now but if I did I would stress the active part. Last time I did and got a lot of couch potatoes. Nothing against them but that's not me at all. Yeah I got many guys even out of the country though I said no long distance. I'm not driving far to meet anyone. Been there, done that and never again.

Did they look like the online troll from South Park? :lol:

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w594/JamesGrec3/large_rsz_south-park-s10e08c05-the-slaughter-16x9_zpsi5canrfj.jpg



:lol: Or like him! :D


http://toonclips.com/600/cartoon-fat-computer-potato-guy-by-ron-leishman-9604.jpg

Worse than even those guys. One guy (I kid you not) looked like Frankenstein and another had a Moe from the Three Stooges haircut. One guy was 50 and was a cook at a fast food restaurant and was there for years. Several were on disability because they couldn't work as in couldn't walk at all and others were mentally challenged. I felt turning these guys down because it's not their fault they are challenged (and lived in a group home)but I'd have nothing in common with them.

Honestly no. They were probably calling me a you know what because I rejected them. I'm not that superficial but I have standards and a guy who weighs 400 pounds or has a scarred face and a big nose doesn't do anything for me.


You completely missed my point.

Maybe the guys who you like are insulting your looks just like you insult the looks of guys you don't like.

You completely missed my point.

Maybe the guys who you like are insulting your looks just like you insult the looks of guys you don't like.
I do know that if a guy posted the way he feels about women the way the post creator has been going on about men in this thread, the women of the board would have called for that guy to be banned right away. Luckily us men aren't going to make a big deal about it. Wish women in life would extend men the same courtesy.

I do know that if a guy posted the way he feels about women the way the post creator has been going on about men in this thread, the women of the board would have called for that guy to be banned right away. Luckily us men aren't going to make a big deal about it. Wish women in life would extend men the same courtesy.


That was my point.

This woman has no problem bad mouthing these men she feels are beneath her. But if only the dregs of society are interested in her what does that say about her?

That was my point.

This woman has no problem bad mouthing these men she feels are beneath her. But if only the dregs of society are interested in her what does that say about her?

i think it has more to do on how we are conditioned to view ourselves. More often than not, a woman who is 10 pounds overweight will feel horrible about herself and think she's unworthy of any sexual attention. On the other hand, a guy who is 50 pounds overweight will still consider himself a catch and will react very negatively if a woman who is super-model gorgeous isn't in to him. This schism of judgement doesn't do either gender any favors, IMO.

i think it has more to do on how we are conditioned to view ourselves. More often than not, a woman who is 10 pounds overweight will feel horrible about herself and think she's unworthy of any sexual attention. On the other hand, a guy who is 50 pounds overweight will still consider himself a catch and will react very negatively if a woman who is super-model gorgeous isn't in to him. This schism of judgement doesn't do either gender any favors, IMO.
Well I don't know how often the thread starter gets hit on by gray overweight men in real life, but when it comes to online dating, it might give men a false sense of confidence to approach a woman they would not in real life. Women are always going to get more emails from men on dating sites than the other way around. It would be wise for a woman to not get offended if men she finds unattractive email her. But yeah, men also need to not respond negatively to a woman who is not interested in him, I agree. But I can't blame a guy for trying. Nothing can happen for a guy if he doesn't make the effort.

Another thing. My advice is to not respond to people you're not interested in on dating sites. If someone remains persistent even after you ignore them, you should report and/or block them. Not a good idea to tell someone you're not interested, because of the hostile reaction it could elicit. But for a smart person, no response should mean not interested. Block the ones that don't get a clue.

Another thing. My advice is to not respond to people you're not interested in on dating sites. If someone remains persistent even after you ignore them, you should report and/or block them. Not a good idea to tell someone you're not interested, because of the hostile reaction it could elicit. But for a smart person, no response should mean not interested. Block the ones that don't get a clue.

Totally agree with you on the above point.

Most people are realistic enough to know that you aren't going to find anyone "model pretty" of either gender online. You do want to attract average/moderately attractive people. Let's face it, no matter how scintillating the conversation is, if your first reaction to someone's appearance is "egads!" it's not going to work.

I'm glad I'm old!!!! LOL!! :lol:

^LOL

Holy cow!!! :eek: 600 dollars would get me new living room furniture! ;) :D

Yeah, that was a fun and wild night. I went w/ a small group of friends and we all chipped in on a huge sushi platter, expensive bottle of wine and hookah pipes.

Rest of the money spent went towards my drinks, tips for house dancers and my own dancers and I booked a private room (VIP) w/ one girl for 30 minutes at $150.00 and then tipped her $100.00

So... that total came to over $600.00

You completely missed my point.

Maybe the guys who you like are insulting your looks just like you insult the looks of guys you don't like.

Maybe but he's dumb if he did because these men were slobs. I'm not a slob, I wear clean clothes and take a shower everyday. I'm not obese and look presentable. I have a valid reason for not liking slobs.

I do know that if a guy posted the way he feels about women the way the post creator has been going on about men in this thread, the women of the board would have called for that guy to be banned right away. Luckily us men aren't going to make a big deal about it. Wish women in life would extend men the same courtesy.

It's not the same thing. I didn't say most men were gross, I said the guys who contacted me were and they were. I explained the type of guys who contacted me, and most were slobs. It was insulting to have them contact me, it made me feel bad.

Another thing. My advice is to not respond to people you're not interested in on dating sites. If someone remains persistent even after you ignore them, you should report and/or block them. Not a good idea to tell someone you're not interested, because of the hostile reaction it could elicit. But for a smart person, no response should mean not interested. Block the ones that don't get a clue.

I ignored them and they got nasty. Some got nasty upfront.


Totally agree with you on the above point.

Most people are realistic enough to know that you aren't going to find anyone "model pretty" of either gender online. You do want to attract average/moderately attractive people. Let's face it, no matter how scintillating the conversation is, if your first reaction to someone's appearance is "egads!" it's not going to work.

I wasn't looking for handsome men but yes attractive guys in shape. I didn't get many of them. I'm not talking movie star handsome just someone who isn't repulsive.

Well I don't know how often the thread starter gets hit on by gray overweight men in real life, but when it comes to online dating, it might give men a false sense of confidence to approach a woman they would not in real life. Women are always going to get more emails from men on dating sites than the other way around. It would be wise for a woman to not get offended if men she finds unattractive email her. But yeah, men also need to not respond negatively to a woman who is not interested in him, I agree. But I can't blame a guy for trying. Nothing can happen for a guy if he doesn't make the effort.

I get hit on by all types offline.

A few days have passed and I have gotten over this idea to some extent. I don't want to pay a lot for a guy who wouldn't normally be interested in me.

I said the guys who contacted me were and they were. I explained the type of guys who contacted me, and most were slobs. It was insulting to have them contact me, it made me feel bad.
If I said the same thing as you just did above about women messaging me on dating sites, even if I wasn't referring to all women, you would be offended. Just pointing that out.

I just saw Magic Mike and it made me realize I like handsome men. However most of these guys are too young or don't want me for many reasons (they're gay, have relationships etc). Let's not forget there are more fatties than there are these men. I want a handsome man but I am a realist. So I think before I get married (whether I have a man or single)I want to go to a male revue. I want to pay a man to climb over me.


Just marry a handsome man unless you too unattractive to get one:lol:

Get lost TVFactFan.

And Most women are too stupid to realize that the Handsome prince who approaches is dating several women:lol:

And Most women are too stupid to realize that the Handsome prince who approaches is dating several women:lol:

I think you probably are unattractive :lol:

I do know that if a guy posted the way he feels about women the way the post creator has been going on about men in this thread, the women of the board would have called for that guy to be banned right away. Luckily us men aren't going to make a big deal about it. Wish women in life would extend men the same courtesy.


Not true, a got a message on tinder from a woman who was HUGE and deleted her fat ass:lol: So you see it works both ways

My Dad's hair didn't start graying until his early 60s.

It may be the same with me, hair gradually graying when I'm past 60.

I'm glad my hair hasn't started graying yet, makes me look younger than my age. I look more like someone in his late 30's/early 40's, not 54. I probably also am young looking because I've never smoked or drank booze. And I must have received good DNA from my parents too. :lol:

It may be the same with me, hair gradually graying when I'm past 60.

I'm glad my hair hasn't started graying yet, makes me look younger than my age. I look more like someone in his late 30's/early 40's, not 54. I probably also am young looking because I've never smoked or drank booze. And I must have received good DNA from my parents too. :lol:


is that because you trying to date a 30 year woman?:lol:

is that because you trying to date a 30 year woman?:lol:

No :lol:, I'm just glad I'm still young looking for a middle aged dude in his 50's.

Your hair started graying in your early 30's? That's too young, but the graying process starts at different times with different people.

My hair will probably start to gray eventually, I'm 54 now and no gray hair yet.

Oh well. My wife loves my gray hair, and I still have a full head of hair she can run her fingers through.

Oh well. My wife loves my gray hair, and I still have a full head of hair she can run her fingers through.

That's great. Good for you! :D

My wife loves to pluck out the gray hair if she finds one...lol

And Most women are too stupid to realize that the Handsome prince who approaches is dating several women:lol:

So going by this logic there are either handsome men or big fat slobs with no one in between.

So going by this logic there are either handsome men or big fat slobs with no one in between.


If you want a guy who looks good you will have to be prepared to share him because you will not be the only female who thinks he looks good

I have to deal with the same. Anyone who looks like something is going to have lots of options