View Full Version : Do All the Episodes Still Exist?


Adamantium
01-24-2016, 01:15 PM
I've been watching bits and pieces of this show on my break at work thanks to Antenna TV and I like it. So now I'm wondering if anyone knows if all eight seasons worth of episodes still exist or if any (probably from the early years) have been lost or destroyed? I'd love for some company to release this show in season sets.

Svenfan1234
01-24-2016, 01:42 PM
I think they must. I agree. I would love a complete series set from Shout!

opus
01-26-2016, 11:46 PM
I went looking thru my copy of Say Goodnight Gracie: The Story of George Burns & Gracie Allen, and without rereading fully, this is what I noticed. For the first two seasons it says "These are all live shows, preserved as kinescopes, and are not in syndication". From season 3 on, " All remaining shows are on film ". It was published in 1989, so I don't know if there's more current info.

The book is 14 cents and $3.99 shipping at Amazon. I recommend it. (price on 1/26/16, if someone is bumping this up in the year 2025. And if you are in the year 2025, does Amazon still exist?).

sabrelucynut
03-10-2016, 03:01 AM
I have that book got it cheap too on amazon, it is a good look into the show and has all the episodes in it.

I sure would buy the series if it came out. There is someone on ebay that sells what they have recorded from antenna , I have thought to buy it but don't know the quality.

treky
04-08-2016, 03:36 AM
I went looking thru my copy of Say Goodnight Gracie: The Story of George Burns & Gracie Allen, and without rereading fully, this is what I noticed. For the first two seasons it says "These are all live shows, preserved as kinescopes, and are not in syndication". From season 3 on, " All remaining shows are on film ". It was published in 1989, so I don't know if there's more current info.

The book is 14 cents and $3.99 shipping at Amazon. I recommend it. (price on 1/26/16, if someone is bumping this up in the year 2025. And if you are in the year 2025, does Amazon still exist?).
also; in the year 2025 do computers still exist?:lol: :lol:

Svenfan1234
04-08-2016, 11:21 AM
^Lol so ARE the live shows preserved then?

Torgo
04-08-2016, 11:42 AM
I went looking thru my copy of Say Goodnight Gracie: The Story of George Burns & Gracie Allen, and without rereading fully, this is what I noticed. For the first two seasons it says "These are all live shows, preserved as kinescopes, and are not in syndication". From season 3 on, " All remaining shows are on film ". It was published in 1989, so I don't know if there's more current info.

The book is 14 cents and $3.99 shipping at Amazon. I recommend it. (price on 1/26/16, if someone is bumping this up in the year 2025. And if you are in the year 2025, does Amazon still exist?).

Opus, if you're reading this in 2025, don't forget to take your flying car in for servicing.

opus
04-08-2016, 01:59 PM
I went looking thru my copy of Say Goodnight Gracie: The Story of George Burns & Gracie Allen,
The book is 14 cents and $3.99 shipping at Amazon. I recommend it.

Down to a penny plus 3.99, so now an even better deal

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1559580194/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1460138203&sr=8-2-fkmr1

treky
04-09-2016, 01:27 AM
^Lol so ARE the live shows preserved then?
well, I know a Christmas one that was done live still exists because I used to have it on VHS and our local PBS station has shown it.

Svenfan1234
04-09-2016, 01:23 PM
Down to a penny plus 3.99, so now an even better deal

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1559580194/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1460138203&sr=8-2-fkmr1

That is an even better deal. What is that book about? I may buy it

opus
04-09-2016, 01:32 PM
That is an even better deal. What is that book about? I may buy it


>>Editorial Reviews


From Library Journal

Despite its title, this book is not a biography of either Gracie Allen or her husband and partner, George Burns, but rather a detailed history of the Burns & Allen TV show. As such, the writers have successfully re-created the 1950-58 program and at the same time revealed the warm relationship that existed between the dryly witty Burns and the zany on-stage character of the late Gracie Allen. In this era of expose biographies it is refreshing to read about two entertainers who were innately decent individuals and who were very much in love with each other. The book devotes a great deal of space to how a TV program is put together, and there is an appendix with synopses of all the shows.<<

Svenfan1234
04-09-2016, 01:44 PM
^Ah ok. I'm thinking about getting this and "Mr. Ed and Me".

ILuvCarolBurnett
09-02-2016, 12:04 AM
I've been watching bits and pieces of this show on my break at work thanks to Antenna TV and I like it. So now I'm wondering if anyone knows if all eight seasons worth of episodes still exist or if any (probably from the early years) have been lost or destroyed? I'd love for some company to release this show in season sets.

The episodes produced between 1950-52 are on kinescopes and I do not believe are typically included with the syndication package. They are not great quality, but are available on public domain DVD releases. I've seen a few and the quality is less than good. When reruns aired on CBN in the 1980s, it was only episodes produced between 1953 - 58.

Adamantium
09-02-2016, 09:25 AM
The episodes produced between 1950-52 are on kinescopes and I do not believe are typically included with the syndication package. They are not great quality, but are available on public domain DVD releases. I've seen a few and the quality is less than good. When reruns aired on CBN in the 1980s, it was only episodes produced between 1953 - 58.

Okay thanks for the info. I'm hoping this show will come to DVD one day (in either complete season sets or a complete series set). Which is why I was asking. I wanted to see if it was possible to get all 8 seasons. I'd be fine with the kinescopes for the first two seasons since it's the only way to get them. Although I imagine if a company released them, they'd start with season 3.

Crusinforabrusin
09-10-2016, 04:47 PM
https://www.amazon.com/George-Burns-Gracie-Allen-Collection/dp/B00012FX0O

I am guessing this is a best of collection

stevea
10-09-2016, 11:59 PM
The episodes produced between 1950-52 are on kinescopes and I do not believe are typically included with the syndication package. They are not great quality, but are available on public domain DVD releases. I've seen a few and the quality is less than good. When reruns aired on CBN in the 1980s, it was only episodes produced between 1953 - 58.
Some episodes from the first 2 seasons exist on DVD, and probably these are in the public domain. Kinescopes have horrible quality, as they are filmed from TV monitors. The sets from the few episodes I've seen are really crude, and I think the Harry Morton character (at least some of the time) is played by yet someone else. I think anyone looking for what might be considered a good B&A show would probably be disappointed. BTW seasons 1 and 2 were never in the syndication package.

TV_on_the_Porch
12-03-2016, 03:41 AM
They were run regularly on the local PBS outlet and the quality was at the very least passable. The quality of the transfer process was apparently very good and revealed the maximum clarity of the print. The result was on par with how filmed reruns typically looked when being broadcast by local stations back in the day.

It's also nice to see the show being played to a live audience. The first two TV seasons are much, much more like their radio show than the later filmed seasons.

sabrelucynut
12-04-2016, 03:29 AM
I have seen the set on Ebay not a licensed set, wish it would come out on DVD I sure would buy it:)

stevea
03-10-2017, 08:26 PM
I too would like to see a DVD release. One thing to consider is that the original film elements deteriorate--the more time that passes, the worse it gets, I would imagine. It's obvious, when you view these episodes on Antenna TV, that these films have never been remastered--they were just transferred to DVD off the tired old syndication videotapes. Some of them have an audio hum. One episode, "Ronnie's Fan Club", is missing from syndication--who knows what happened. I fear this whole series will be a treasure lost. Shout Factory or some reissuer needs to do what they did with Father Knows Best--reassemble the original, unedited episodes, if they still can.