Hi all, forgive me if this has been posted in the past, but I was just wondering if any of you know who are some of the "good guys" such as law enforcement, witnesses, et cetera, who ended up not being so good after all. A few that come to mind for me, would be the cop in segment in which Gloria Ross and Candy Belt were murdered. Also I have read a lot of people suspect the police may have had something to do with the Freeman/Bible murders and disappearances. Who are some of your picks??

Good question!

1) I would say Rick McCue. Innocent of Lulu Corshane's murder, but was arrested later for sexually assaulting a disabled woman.

2) The doctor in the after death segment (who worked on the little girl who drowned and then came back to life) was arrested for waterboarding abuse of his children.

3) Kevin Hughes' boss, interviewed in the segment, helped orchestrate his murder/knew who was behind it. I forget how much he was involved in setting Kevin up, but he had the gall to be interviewed. He died before he could be charged and the hitman was caught.

I'm sure there are plenty more.

Great question Ostaro1977! The Police department in the Bible / Freeman disappearance are so corrupt it's not funny.

The other case of the boy who was trying to cross the Freeway near Tijuana and ended up being hit by a car - The Law enforcement officials seemed crooked as a dog's back leg…or very incompetent at best.

Also, the case where the Cop burnt the mattress that may have held clues to Eric Tamiyasu's murder.

Sorry, I'm veering off topic a little here towards "Bent Cops on UM".

Dr swango
Tony Alamo
Danny Marino
Gertrude Pruitt (fruitcake con)
The wine masseuse con
The cult leader offer your shoes guy
Charles Morgan

I LOVE this question!

That being said, I can't really think of any that haven't been named. :)

POSSIBLY Kim Marshall, Nyleen's step-father.

Thanks for all the positive feedback, everyone...another one that came to mind, would be the Noe (I think that's the last name) family. They are the ones highly suspected of the disappearance (and later confirmed to me murder, I believe) of that mother, her sister in law, and her young daughter. That family rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning, even the grandmother! But then again, after seeing several of the cases in which the grandparents abduct/corrupt the grandkids (Satanic grandma anyone?) That just proves that age is nothing more than a number. I was also highly suspicious of Mr. Pollis, (Charlotte's husband), Mr Caylor (Dottie's hubby) as well as the boyfriend of the cocktail waitress whose car was discovered abandoned on the side of the road. One of the few spouses/boyfriends, etc, that I always did feel to be genuine however, is Angela Hammond's boyfriend. It broke my heart to see that he was so close to saving her...very unfortunate that he didn't just jump in his car and come check on her when he offered to, or she may have escaped that awful fate...very tragic case. :( What about Danny Casolaro? Could the government had something to do with that do ya think? Mob hit? Suicide to me seems so far fetched that it isn't even funny...

YES! I completely forgot about Eric...that case was strange indeed. If the cop didn't do it, then he was either very ignorant/untrained, or DEFINITLEY had something to hide...if he didn't do it, I'm willing to bet he knew more than he would say.

Thanks for all the positive feedback, everyone...another one that came to mind, would be the Noe (I think that's the last name) family. They are the ones highly suspected of the disappearance (and later confirmed to me murder, I believe) of that mother, her sister in law, and her young daughter. That family rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning, even the grandmother! But then again, after seeing several of the cases in which the grandparents abduct/corrupt the grandkids (Satanic grandma anyone?) That just proves that age is nothing more than a number. I was also highly suspicious of Mr. Pollis, (Charlotte's husband), Mr Caylor (Dottie's hubby) as well as the boyfriend of the cocktail waitress whose car was discovered abandoned on the side of the road. One of the few spouses/boyfriends, etc, that I always did feel to be genuine however, is Angela Hammond's boyfriend. It broke my heart to see that he was so close to saving her...very unfortunate that he didn't just jump in his car and come check on her when he offered to, or she may have escaped that awful fate...very tragic case. :( What about Danny Casolaro? Could the government had something to do with that do ya think? Mob hit? Suicide to me seems so far fetched that it isn't even funny...

Paul Pollis was an "esteemed guest" of the boards several years ago. Those were a fun couple of days. I have no doubt he murdered his wife.

As for the cocktail waitress, I believe that's Tara Breckinridge. Her boyfriend Wayne Hecker is also highly suspect, at least in my opinion.

I totally agree that Rob Schafer had no role in Angela Hammond's disappearance. As you're here longer, you'll see that once every couple of years, we have a debate about it, but I think the majority feels that the poor dude did everything he could have to save Angela. :)

Oh, Danny Casoloro-- that's actually a pretty well debated one on these boards. I lean murder. I know several others who would say suicide.

Hi Ricci! Nice to hear from you again. Wow Paul was actually here on the boards?? That had to be...interesting to say the least. And yup you are right about the waitress. Tara Brekinridge. The name came back to me right when u mentioned her. I can still remember her face. I highly suspect her boyfriend as well. Have there been other witnesses/family members, etc on here as well? IIRC wasn't Jeremy Bright's mother and sis on her awhile back? I often wonder how the families of these victims feel, knowing people like us care enough about what happened to their loved ones to keep their memories alive, and their cases as open as possible... Back to the question at hand...What is your take on the Freeman/Bible case? Do you feel that Mr. Freeman's cryptic message to his brother has merit? Or do you think something else happened that night? I'm very curious and intrigued about this case...one of the most curious one, IMO.

Another supposed "good guy" (and one of my personal faves, as most of you probably know) is Bonnie Wilder. Everyone at the store she worked at thought she was very important to the operations and an extremely loyal employee, until she ran off with the cash and got away with it.

Another supposed "good guy" (and one of my personal faves, as most of you probably know) is Bonnie Wilder. Everyone at the store she worked at thought she was very important to the operations and an extremely loyal employee, until she ran off with the cash and got away with it.
Yup I almost mentioned her but forgot about her. Got lost in my UM crowd of a brain.

The family in the lake wales haunting episode: The son (Alan)was charged in june of 1991 with Battery. Then he was charged in 1993 with domestic violence spousal battery. In 1994 he was charged with a felony of firing a gun in public as well as "Improper exhibit of a firearm-dangerous."

The mother was charged with selling marijuana in 1993 and in 1999 she was charged with public consumption.

Now we know why they were seeing things.

James Blackburn, the prosecutor who convicted Jeffrey MacDonald, was disbarred and spent time in prison for many ethical violations, including embezzling money, shortly after he was interviewed on UM.

Or what about those two DJ's who had that phone line where a caller confessed to a murder. One of them said he hoped it was a hoax because he'd hate to think someone was murdered. Of course it was, and they orchestrated the whole thing, and they guy who actually called in and "confessed" ended up getting a job at the station.
I wonder if they are still on the air.

Or what about those two DJ's who had that phone line where a caller confessed to a murder. One of them said he hoped it was a hoax because he'd hate to think someone was murdered. Of course it was, and they orchestrated the whole thing, and they guy who actually called in and "confessed" ended up getting a job at the station.
I wonder if they are still on the air.

Kevin and Bean. They are still on the air.

And they still suck.

I will never forgive them for that stunt.

Kevin and Bean. They are still on the air.

And they still suck.

I will never forgive them for that stunt.

Agreed, those guys are complete scumbags. Loved how RS profoundly called them liars in the segment after it was revealed they set the whole thing up for ratings.

Kevin and Bean. They are still on the air.

And they still suck.

I will never forgive them for that stunt.
Yep. I live in L.A. and pretty much always avoid KROQ for this reason. One of my coworkers talks about Kevin and Bean a lot and internally I just go :mad:

How in the world can those two creeps still be on the air after pulling that?! Do the producers of the station have like, no scruples at all?? SMH...

How in the world can those two creeps still be on the air after pulling that?! Do the producers of the station have like, no scruples at all?? SMH...
Sadly, I think high ratings let them keep their jobs. Kevin and Bean are still quite popular and most people have no knowledge of the radio hoax.

What kinda name is "Bean" anyway? :mad:

To me the hoax isn't a surprise. Radio and tv media will do anything to get ratings. Many of them are merely actors.

Wasn't the old Judge who had all his belongings stolen by that lady kind of an unethical jerk as well?

Wasn't the old Judge who had all his belongings stolen by that lady kind of an unethical jerk as well?

Ah yes, I was shocked when I learned that Leland Geiler was not the respected judge UM made him out to be and had actually been removed from the bench for many creepy incidents of sexual misconduct, including assaulting a male lawyer with a dildo! While all of Judge Geiler's bad stuff happened long before he was on UM, I have a feeling they might have tried harder to prosecute Andolina Gonzalez after his death if he didn't have such a tainted reputation.

Ah yes, I was shocked when I learned that Leland Geiler was not the respected judge UM made him out to be and had actually been removed from the bench for many creepy incidents of sexual misconduct, including assaulting a male lawyer with a dildo! While all of Judge Geiler's bad stuff happened long before he was on UM, I have a feeling they might have tried harder to prosecute Andolina Gonzalez after his death if he didn't have such a tainted reputation.

I didn't know that at all but it doesn't surprise me, since UM sometimes whitewashed some of the victims' reputations or left things out.

Sadly, I think high ratings let them keep their jobs. Kevin and Bean are still quite popular and most people have no knowledge of the radio hoax.

This was one of those situations where ANY publicity is good publicity. And they ended up reaping the benefits of it. Their radio program has been a big hit in LA for the last 20 years. Any remorse on their part for giving countless loved ones of murder victims false hope has been nonexistent.

If you go to their profile page on their station's official site, you can see more eye rolling answers in regards to their character. For example, Kevin dislikes the elderly. Bean dislikes the handicapped and one of his dreams is to own a dwarf. :rolleyes:

Something tells me neither of these guys are going to be attending any Mensa meetings any time soon.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gene+Baxter+Kevin+Ryder+KROQ+Kevin+Bean+April+vXPQscO_SJyl.jpg

For example, Kevin dislikes the elderly.
Well he's no spring chicken, so when he can officially be classified as elderly, is he going to off himself? :lol: :rolleyes:

These two certainly give Opie and Anthony a run for their money. Like them, they're nothing but two jumped-up shock jocks that lack any semblance of talent or creativity and seem to actively go out of their way to act like twats to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

They wasted police time, they wasted Unsolved Mysteries time and what's worse is that they instilled a false sense of hope into a murder victims family members...making them believe that the perpetrator would finally face justice. I'm thrilled that Stack Layeth The Smacketh Down on these heathens.

Just leaving this here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/kroqs-kevin-ryder-says-entire-morning-show-team-was-fired-1285185

Just leaving this here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/kroqs-kevin-ryder-says-entire-morning-show-team-was-fired-1285185

Thank you for posting this. First, I did not know Bean moved to England a couple years ago.

And second, I'm not one who takes pleasure in people losing their jobs but look at it this way. The man hurt a ton of people and flourished as a result. He should have been fired in 1991 and ended up getting fired in 2020. So he was able to milk another 29 years from that fake murder confession. It was waaaay more than he ever deserved.

But....oh, the irony of Kevin saying its a crappy way to treat people. I wish I could explain it to him but I'm sure it would go straight over his head.

Thank you for posting this. First, I did not know Bean moved to England a couple years ago.

And second, I'm not one who takes pleasure in people losing their jobs but look at it this way. The man hurt a ton of people and flourished as a result. He should have been fired in 1991 and ended up getting fired in 2020. So he was able to milk another 29 years from that fake murder confession. It was waaaay more than he ever deserved.

But....oh, the irony of Kevin saying its a crappy way to treat people. I wish I could explain it to him but I'm sure it would go straight over his head.

He’s actually claiming that he was escorted out of the building.

I was just going to post about Kevin being fired yesterday. I lived in LA in the mid-2000s, they should have been off the air long before now. Unlistenable, not to mention the whole hoax thing.

I heard an audio clip years ago where I guess someone called them up and asked them about it and they laughed and hung up.

Kevin Arnold, the cop who got into a struggle with Michael Mohon on New Years Eve in 1983 was later accused of embezzling money. He did not take well to the possibility of being arrested, and was shot and killed in 1995 by his colleagues when they tried to take him down.

I apologize for not having any more information right off the top of my head, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I'd heard that Jeanne Tovrea (the rich Phoenix socialite who was murdered while she slept) was involved in a number of activities of dubious legality during her lifetime.

Kevin Arnold, the cop who got into a struggle with Michael Mohon on New Years Eve in 1983 was later accused of embezzling money. He did not take well to the possibility of being arrested, and was shot and killed in 1995 by his colleagues when they tried to take him down.

Thank you!! I saw this thread revived over the weekend, and couldn't remember for the life of me what the cop's name was. I researched it off and on for a couple hours, and then finally gave up - so thank you for ridding me of that "ear worm".

Not to be confused with the Wonder Years kid, but this is the 'crooked' Kevin Arnold. (https://youtu.be/O8pGg6vwgLM?t=759)

Another fascinating article here: from someone who knew him. (https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/partner-buckeye-bandit/)

My contribution to the OP's original idea (prior to the tangent), of "good guys gone bad" would have to be Greg Webb v Anna Anton (https://youtu.be/useY2AxwoUE?t=113), in Lyons, Nebraska. I'm actually surprised I haven't seen that one mentioned yet.

The Dave that took a shotgun from Jim Burnside got arrested 10 years ago in Florida.

Susan Harrison (according to her husband)

bob “I know what I what I had” bean.

bob “I know what I what I had” bean.

What did Bean do after the segment? IIRC, he actually helped solve Sammy Wheeler's murder somehow.

What did Bean do after the segment? IIRC, he actually helped solve Sammy Wheeler's murder somehow.

I did not hear that he helped the case after the segment aired. If he did then good on him. And maybe I should reconsider. My thoughts for posting this...when I first watched the segment I was so caught up in Danny Wheeler’s interview that I overlooked the possibility that Bob Bean got his kids testimonials that led him to suspect his ex being a suspect? I could have took that wrong, but that was my perception the last time I watched. It’s possible his kids(or infants as Danny called them) did volunteer the information, but I think I would have handled that differently as a parent. Of corse thankfully I’ve never been in that position.